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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
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    Thanks, the one reasonable response here. The route from Millcreek Ravine to Low Level bridge is very poor.
    and yet, its no different than getting to the dear old footbridge, except, turn left and follow 98avenue to the low level.
    As stated the route to the old footbridge involved no dismounts, no road crossings, no navigation and was a continual stretch on the same trail. All you had to do to find the old footbridge is essentially follow the one trail.

    I literally had to go on google maps a couple times just to figure out how to get from Millcreek ravine to the Low Level bridge.

    In anycase the new bridge was supposed to be Finished in 3-4years, Its over 3years already, and the bridge spans aren't even in place. This project, and particularly the bridge is going at a snails pace. I doubt the bridge is open to pedestrian traffic anytime next year.
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    If you can find your way to the old footbridge, and can't find your way to the lowlevel bridge from there, you have other issues. You don't need to take a different route. You follow the same route. Go over the footbridge above connors road, slide past the muttart, and over the footbridge across 98 avenue. You are now where the LRT bridge is (where the footbridge was before). Turn left. You are now at the low level bridge. No dismounts, no level road crossings, in fact, its the same friggen route, except you turn left to go to the low level bridge. It really amazes me as a guy who claims to know the river valley well, that you had to google map how to get from the LRT bridge to the low level bridge.


    Either you are not reading what I'm writing, or purposely being daft because your point as been whittled to nothing and you are grasping for straws.

    The pedestrian bridge will likely open when the rest of the bridge is ready and it's not a massive construction zone. for your safety.

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    Last edited by Medwards; 17-09-2019 at 03:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    If you can find your way to the old footbridge, and can't find your way to the lowlevel bridge from there, you have other issues. You don't need to take a different route. You follow the same route. Go over the footbridge above connors road, slide past the muttart, and over the footbridge across 98 avenue. You are now where the LRT bridge is (where the footbridge was before). Turn left. You are now at the low level bridge. No dismounts, no level road crossings, in fact, its the same friggen route, except you turn left to go to the low level bridge. It really amazes me as a guy who claims to know the river valley well, that you had to google map how to get from the LRT bridge to the low level bridge.


    Either you are not reading what I'm writing, or purposely being daft because your point as been whittled to nothing and you are grasping for straws.

    The pedestrian bridge will likely open when the rest of the bridge is ready and it's not a massive construction zone. for your safety.

    yee god.
    Why would I or anybody on Earth currently take the exact same route to the old foot bridge, which isn't there, and is one "massive construction zone" just so they can double back 1km to take the low level bridge?

    Are you stating that cyclists should be expected to detour this amount just to take the low level bridge?


    Obviously that's an inane route to take. I was describing the exact route, the most direct route possible (which is a mess) from Millcreek Ravine to Low level bridge. Not one that traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack..

    But keep arguing.
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    What's so dreadful about the route I posted in 7797? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Goes from MCR to LMRP, over the LLB, EZPZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvazquez7 View Post
    Video update recorded a couple of days ago:

    Good job, lad - I just wish you had started from Connors Hill Road due to all the detours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    What's so dreadful about the route I posted in 7797? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Goes from MCR to LMRP, over the LLB, EZPZ.
    The route involves several busy road crossings. With these being arterials and drivers that don't even want to stop for pedestrians at these crossings. With stubborn drivers that refuse to stop for a cyclist crossing unless they dismount and get on their knees and say please..

    Try it sometime. Nobody likes that route, just that its the one Google maps recommends and its the "easiest" route currently possible, which isn't saying much.
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    How do you get from MCR to the Low Level or the LRT bridge without crossing arterials?
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    Great video .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    If you can find your way to the old footbridge, and can't find your way to the lowlevel bridge from there, you have other issues. You don't need to take a different route. You follow the same route. Go over the footbridge above connors road, slide past the muttart, and over the footbridge across 98 avenue. You are now where the LRT bridge is (where the footbridge was before). Turn left. You are now at the low level bridge. No dismounts, no level road crossings, in fact, its the same friggen route, except you turn left to go to the low level bridge. It really amazes me as a guy who claims to know the river valley well, that you had to google map how to get from the LRT bridge to the low level bridge.


    Either you are not reading what I'm writing, or purposely being daft because your point as been whittled to nothing and you are grasping for straws.

    The pedestrian bridge will likely open when the rest of the bridge is ready and it's not a massive construction zone. for your safety.

    yee god.
    Why would I or anybody on Earth currently take the exact same route to the old foot bridge, which isn't there, and is one "massive construction zone" just so they can double back 1km to take the low level bridge?

    Are you stating that cyclists should be expected to detour this amount just to take the low level bridge?


    Obviously that's an inane route to take. I was describing the exact route, the most direct route possible (which is a mess) from Millcreek Ravine to Low level bridge. Not one that traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack..

    But keep arguing.

    Why would anyone? Because you wanted a route that avoided level crossings and complained about the direct route so I offered a reasonable alternative that met your conditions, and hey, its the route you used to take to the footbridge....

    I think you really just want to read your illlogical complaints.

    The route to the old footbridge was the same one that you claimed was good before, but now it "traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack" as if the 500 meters was such a big back track on a bike.... but that route was fine when the old footbridge was there, and will be fine again when the new footbridge under the LRT bridge is back...
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    I wonder how much of the downtown section can be completed before winter hits. It would be so nice to have the dowm with a little bit less construction, especially at the churchill navel dry dock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    How do you get from MCR to the Low Level or the LRT bridge without crossing arterials?
    From MCR you go up the hill, to the overpass crossing Connors road, then you go down the valley and end up just west of the Muttart greeneries buildings, you go around those, turn right, and then this brings you to another overpass to get to where the old bridge or new bridge will be. zero actual road crossings due to the two overpasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    If you can find your way to the old footbridge, and can't find your way to the lowlevel bridge from there, you have other issues. You don't need to take a different route. You follow the same route. Go over the footbridge above connors road, slide past the muttart, and over the footbridge across 98 avenue. You are now where the LRT bridge is (where the footbridge was before). Turn left. You are now at the low level bridge. No dismounts, no level road crossings, in fact, its the same friggen route, except you turn left to go to the low level bridge. It really amazes me as a guy who claims to know the river valley well, that you had to google map how to get from the LRT bridge to the low level bridge.


    Either you are not reading what I'm writing, or purposely being daft because your point as been whittled to nothing and you are grasping for straws.

    The pedestrian bridge will likely open when the rest of the bridge is ready and it's not a massive construction zone. for your safety.

    yee god.
    Why would I or anybody on Earth currently take the exact same route to the old foot bridge, which isn't there, and is one "massive construction zone" just so they can double back 1km to take the low level bridge?

    Are you stating that cyclists should be expected to detour this amount just to take the low level bridge?


    Obviously that's an inane route to take. I was describing the exact route, the most direct route possible (which is a mess) from Millcreek Ravine to Low level bridge. Not one that traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack..

    But keep arguing.

    Why would anyone? Because you wanted a route that avoided level crossings and complained about the direct route so I offered a reasonable alternative that met your conditions, and hey, its the route you used to take to the footbridge....

    I think you really just want to read your illlogical complaints.

    The route to the old footbridge was the same one that you claimed was good before, but now it "traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack" as if the 500 meters was such a big back track on a bike.... but that route was fine when the old footbridge was there, and will be fine again when the new footbridge under the LRT bridge is back...
    Hey its all good. But its not all the same. As stated the zip back to Low level, from where the Cloverdale bridge was, is around 1km. Its also not a route I like. Its often dark, heavily treed and with blind bends and undulations. Some people love those in the river valley, some like trails that offer more visibility. Still, its a detour. But its certainly doable and you are correct it involves no actual road crossings. I've avoided the area during construction. From google Earth the construction area is taking up what used to be the junction for trails to several directions. I suspect theres a different access now given that the junction is fenced off. Have to check it out sometime. Have you been lately?

    In anycase I apologize and you are correct that the route is viable if one doesn't mind the added length.

    Can't wait for the new footbridge to be there.
    Last edited by Replacement; 18-09-2019 at 10:46 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    How do you get from MCR to the Low Level or the LRT bridge without crossing arterials?
    From MCR you go up the hill, to the overpass crossing Connors road, then you go down the valley and end up just west of the Muttart greeneries buildings, you go around those, turn right, and then this brings you to another overpass to get to where the old bridge or new bridge will be. zero actual road crossings due to the two overpasses.
    and to get to the low level, its the same route, plus turn left to go the low level bridge which is about 500 m away.... but apparently this is toooooo hard for you? When I said you should use this route you complained about the hills, the valley, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
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    If you can find your way to the old footbridge, and can't find your way to the lowlevel bridge from there, you have other issues. You don't need to take a different route. You follow the same route. Go over the footbridge above connors road, slide past the muttart, and over the footbridge across 98 avenue. You are now where the LRT bridge is (where the footbridge was before). Turn left. You are now at the low level bridge. No dismounts, no level road crossings, in fact, its the same friggen route, except you turn left to go to the low level bridge. It really amazes me as a guy who claims to know the river valley well, that you had to google map how to get from the LRT bridge to the low level bridge.


    Either you are not reading what I'm writing, or purposely being daft because your point as been whittled to nothing and you are grasping for straws.

    The pedestrian bridge will likely open when the rest of the bridge is ready and it's not a massive construction zone. for your safety.

    yee god.
    Why would I or anybody on Earth currently take the exact same route to the old foot bridge, which isn't there, and is one "massive construction zone" just so they can double back 1km to take the low level bridge?

    Are you stating that cyclists should be expected to detour this amount just to take the low level bridge?


    Obviously that's an inane route to take. I was describing the exact route, the most direct route possible (which is a mess) from Millcreek Ravine to Low level bridge. Not one that traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack..

    But keep arguing.

    Why would anyone? Because you wanted a route that avoided level crossings and complained about the direct route so I offered a reasonable alternative that met your conditions, and hey, its the route you used to take to the footbridge....

    I think you really just want to read your illlogical complaints.

    The route to the old footbridge was the same one that you claimed was good before, but now it "traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack" as if the 500 meters was such a big back track on a bike.... but that route was fine when the old footbridge was there, and will be fine again when the new footbridge under the LRT bridge is back...
    Hey its all good. But its not all the same. As stated the zip back to Low level, from where the Cloverdale bridge was, is around 1km. Its also not a route I like. Its often dark, heavily treed and with blind bends and undulations. Some people love those in the river valley, some like trails that offer more visibility. Still, its a detour. But its certainly doable and you are correct it involves no actual road crossings. I've avoided the area during construction. From google Earth the construction area is taking up what used to be the junction for trails to several directions. I suspect theres a different access now given that the junction is fenced off. Have to check it out sometime. Have you been lately?

    In anycase I apologize and you are correct that the route is viable if one doesn't mind the added length.

    Can't wait for the new footbridge to be there.
    Cross both footbridges like you normally would and then You just follow 98th avenue to low level... Please stop making this out to be more horrible than it is. Yes, its a bit of a PITA, but its for the long term benefit of the city as a whole, and eventually that old footbridge needed to be replaced anyways as it was nearing the end of its life span. Yes the junctions are closed, but the footbridges over 98 are still open ,and you can follow 98 to low level. About 500 meter away, or 2 minutes on a bike, if that.


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    Last edited by Medwards; 18-09-2019 at 11:02 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
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    If you can find your way to the old footbridge, and can't find your way to the lowlevel bridge from there, you have other issues. You don't need to take a different route. You follow the same route. Go over the footbridge above connors road, slide past the muttart, and over the footbridge across 98 avenue. You are now where the LRT bridge is (where the footbridge was before). Turn left. You are now at the low level bridge. No dismounts, no level road crossings, in fact, its the same friggen route, except you turn left to go to the low level bridge. It really amazes me as a guy who claims to know the river valley well, that you had to google map how to get from the LRT bridge to the low level bridge.


    Either you are not reading what I'm writing, or purposely being daft because your point as been whittled to nothing and you are grasping for straws.

    The pedestrian bridge will likely open when the rest of the bridge is ready and it's not a massive construction zone. for your safety.

    yee god.
    Why would I or anybody on Earth currently take the exact same route to the old foot bridge, which isn't there, and is one "massive construction zone" just so they can double back 1km to take the low level bridge?

    Are you stating that cyclists should be expected to detour this amount just to take the low level bridge?


    Obviously that's an inane route to take. I was describing the exact route, the most direct route possible (which is a mess) from Millcreek Ravine to Low level bridge. Not one that traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack..

    But keep arguing.

    Why would anyone? Because you wanted a route that avoided level crossings and complained about the direct route so I offered a reasonable alternative that met your conditions, and hey, its the route you used to take to the footbridge....

    I think you really just want to read your illlogical complaints.

    The route to the old footbridge was the same one that you claimed was good before, but now it "traverses hills, valleys and a huge backtrack" as if the 500 meters was such a big back track on a bike.... but that route was fine when the old footbridge was there, and will be fine again when the new footbridge under the LRT bridge is back...
    Hey its all good. But its not all the same. As stated the zip back to Low level, from where the Cloverdale bridge was, is around 1km. Its also not a route I like. Its often dark, heavily treed and with blind bends and undulations. Some people love those in the river valley, some like trails that offer more visibility. Still, its a detour. But its certainly doable and you are correct it involves no actual road crossings. I've avoided the area during construction. From google Earth the construction area is taking up what used to be the junction for trails to several directions. I suspect theres a different access now given that the junction is fenced off. Have to check it out sometime. Have you been lately?

    In anycase I apologize and you are correct that the route is viable if one doesn't mind the added length.

    Can't wait for the new footbridge to be there.
    Cross both footbridges like you normally would and then You just follow 98th avenue to low level... Please stop making this out to be more horrible than it is. Yes, its a bit of a PITA, but its for the long term benefit of the city as a whole, and eventually that old footbridge needed to be replaced anyways as it was nearing the end of its life span. Yes the junctions are closed, but the footbridges over 98 are still open ,and you can follow 98 to low level. About 500 meter away, or 2 minutes on a bike, if that.


    https://goo.gl/maps/KjWGSG3eJLNBXx7c8
    I already apologized and said you were right. Again, sorry, thanks for the suggestions.

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    Nice shots. I like the 2nd from the bottom showing Encore right in the middle.
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    Nice shots, Paul.
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    95 Avenue is really starting to take shape.
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    Connors Road is NOT starting to take shape. WTF is taking so long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Connors Road is NOT starting to take shape. WTF is taking so long?
    Hard to say. There is that section in between the two retaining walls that they have been digging down and as you can see in my first picture of that little section it doesn't appear they will be ready for the switch over in traffic. Once the switch of lanes they can of course start clearing and pouring the track base.
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    If they're moving traffic at the top of Connors Road next week, they can work on the top part of the LRT. Otherwise, I think it's going to be another month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Connors Road is NOT starting to take shape. WTF is taking so long?
    Hard to say. There is that section in between the two retaining walls that they have been digging down and as you can see in my first picture of that little section it doesn't appear they will be ready for the switch over in traffic. Once the switch of lanes they can of course start clearing and pouring the track base.
    It looks as if the wild life corridor under the road is taking an inordinate amount of time to construct.
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