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    Or Sears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spill View Post
    Perhaps the most diverse building base in the city, thanks to nods to the past.

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    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.

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    Oh, oh, blinds!

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    Job No 264575501-001
    Description: To construct exterior alterations (historical wood entrance doors) to a 111.6 meter high Professional, Financial and Office Support Services Tower with main floor General Retail Stores (Kelly Ramsey).
    Location: 10175 - 101 STREET NW
    Plan 1422995 Blk 1 Lot 39A
    Applicant: PANGMAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
    Status: More Information Required/Requested
    Create Date: 10/13/2017 9:33:45 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by edmguy111 View Post
    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.
    They purposely designed the east side to open up onto RHW with a patio or 2. Credo is going into the smaller south/central bay which is a bit unique in layout. The two main CRUs will be restaurants unless something has changed, one is https://www.eatoeb.com and the other forthcoming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmguy111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spill View Post
    Perhaps the most diverse building base in the city, thanks to nods to the past.

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    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.
    Patios don't need to be large in order to be successful. Some of the smaller outdoor spaces are often the best. All one really needs to help animate the sidewalk are a few small tables and chairs.

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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.

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    Looks better than an empty unit.

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    Sigh the tree on the rock died (again), reminds me of Siwash Rock in Vancouver, they old tree died, a replacement was planted died, then another naturally started growing.

    I wonder if they need some sort of watering mechanism for the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance View Post
    Sigh the tree on the rock died (again), reminds me of Siwash Rock in Vancouver, they old tree died, a replacement was planted died, then another naturally started growing.

    I wonder if they need some sort of watering mechanism for the tree.
    Guess we'll have to take your word for it.....

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    No need to take my word...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siwash_Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by edmguy111 View Post
    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.
    They purposely designed the east side to open up onto RHW with a patio or 2. Credo is going into the smaller south/central bay which is a bit unique in layout. The two main CRUs will be restaurants unless something has changed, one is https://www.eatoeb.com and the other forthcoming.
    Yes, the RTUs do open to RHW. However, I would think that is mostly so that retail customers do not have to access the lobby of the tower and not for commitment for any outside patios. Also, OEB is only open until 3:00 PM so patio or no patio it will be very quiet there for most of the day if they are open the same hours as their Calgary locations. I guess time will tell of we get back any serious patios on the east side of the building. I still say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.
    i suppose it's not as bad as the shopper's drug mart red at 10405 jasper (the old standard life building) but i'm not sure that alone makes it fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.
    i suppose it's not as bad as the shopper's drug mart red at 10405 jasper (the old standard life building) but i'm not sure that alone makes it fine.
    I don't even find that bad compared to some who seem to lose their heads as soon as their is a single 'lifestyle' image placed on a single pane of glass. It happens in EVERY city, this isn't just an 'Edmonton' thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.
    i suppose it's not as bad as the shopper's drug mart red at 10405 jasper (the old standard life building) but i'm not sure that alone makes it fine.
    I don't even find that bad compared to some who seem to lose their heads as soon as their is a single 'lifestyle' image placed on a single pane of glass. It happens in EVERY city, this isn't just an 'Edmonton' thing.
    it happens in every city isn’t a very high standard ChrisD...
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    Restaurants finally opening in new Kelly Ramsey tower
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ower-1.4382371
    - Credo and OEB coming soon
    - One space remaining: John Day is looking for mid-range restaurant, preferably local
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    2 great additions to the Downtown. I would love to see a great fish joint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    2 great additions to the Downtown. I would love to see a great fish joint.
    RIP .... Pacific Fish never lasted nor will another primary seafood eatery on RHW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Restaurants finally opening in new Kelly Ramsey tower
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ower-1.4382371
    - Credo and OEB coming soon
    - One space remaining: John Day is looking for mid-range restaurant, preferably local
    I am looking forward to OEB as I enjoy their food, but it's going to be crazy busy judging by my last visit to YYC a month ago. We tried to eat there and it was chaos (up to 2 hour waits) so we ended up at Beltliner instead.

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    ^the one in downtown Calgary is a little easier to get into, but it is busy as well.

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    OEB is going to be a welcomed addition to an underserved brunch market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    OEB is going to be a welcomed addition to an underserved brunch market.
    Now if Diner Deluxe could open a location here too then we'd be golden

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    Anyone know when Credo is supposed to open? It was closed when I went by today.
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    Family opening was Sat... so this week I presume.


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    Enbridge signage complete.


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    That looks nice, outline backlit at night.
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    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb55o6kF...=oeb_breakfast

    Its finally coming!!!

    OEB is the best in Calgary, definitely a great sign for Edmonton!

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    ^I'm sorry but who or what is OEB?

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    OEB, Breakfast Company. The OE stands for Over Easy

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    An excellent addition to that area/corner. They are still working on design, but we should see work commence in the not too distant future I am told.
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    Been to the one on I think 8th in Calgary, and it was really good. Kind of like Cora's, but not awful. So I guess not like Cora's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Been to the one on I think 8th in Calgary, and it was really good. Kind of like Cora's, but not awful. So I guess not like Cora's.
    5th Ave actually and there is another one a little more off the beaten path on Edmonton Trail N - much better than Cora's IMO

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