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    Or Sears.

    Oh, wait ...
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    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.

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    Job No 264575501-001
    Description: To construct exterior alterations (historical wood entrance doors) to a 111.6 meter high Professional, Financial and Office Support Services Tower with main floor General Retail Stores (Kelly Ramsey).
    Location: 10175 - 101 STREET NW
    Plan 1422995 Blk 1 Lot 39A
    Applicant: PANGMAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
    Status: More Information Required/Requested
    Create Date: 10/13/2017 9:33:45 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by edmguy111 View Post
    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.
    They purposely designed the east side to open up onto RHW with a patio or 2. Credo is going into the smaller south/central bay which is a bit unique in layout. The two main CRUs will be restaurants unless something has changed, one is https://www.eatoeb.com and the other forthcoming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmguy111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spill View Post
    Perhaps the most diverse building base in the city, thanks to nods to the past.

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    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.
    Patios don't need to be large in order to be successful. Some of the smaller outdoor spaces are often the best. All one really needs to help animate the sidewalk are a few small tables and chairs.

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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.

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    Looks better than an empty unit.

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    Sigh the tree on the rock died (again), reminds me of Siwash Rock in Vancouver, they old tree died, a replacement was planted died, then another naturally started growing.

    I wonder if they need some sort of watering mechanism for the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance View Post
    Sigh the tree on the rock died (again), reminds me of Siwash Rock in Vancouver, they old tree died, a replacement was planted died, then another naturally started growing.

    I wonder if they need some sort of watering mechanism for the tree.
    Guess we'll have to take your word for it.....

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    No need to take my word...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by edmguy111 View Post
    Looking forward to the retail bays being filled but I am concerned about a couple of things. First, in the Ramsey building (grey building façade), there is the huge concrete stairwell taking up lots of space in that's section of the first floor and I am not sure if there is any real good usable retail space there. Maybe a coffee shop can work around that but I do not know for sure. Second, the configuration of the exterior landscaping on the east side where there used to be a huge deck serving 3 or 4 restaurants has really not been built for use as an outdoor deck. The trees are set back okay but they are surrounded by permanent informational stands as you can see in the picture which totally cuts off pedestrian north-south movement. A restaurant would not be able to get as wide of a deck as before, if at all, unless that is changed. I wonder if we will ever see any large restaurants with large decks in that space again or just smaller shops like Starbucks etc.
    They purposely designed the east side to open up onto RHW with a patio or 2. Credo is going into the smaller south/central bay which is a bit unique in layout. The two main CRUs will be restaurants unless something has changed, one is https://www.eatoeb.com and the other forthcoming.
    Yes, the RTUs do open to RHW. However, I would think that is mostly so that retail customers do not have to access the lobby of the tower and not for commitment for any outside patios. Also, OEB is only open until 3:00 PM so patio or no patio it will be very quiet there for most of the day if they are open the same hours as their Calgary locations. I guess time will tell of we get back any serious patios on the east side of the building. I still say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.
    i suppose it's not as bad as the shopper's drug mart red at 10405 jasper (the old standard life building) but i'm not sure that alone makes it fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.
    i suppose it's not as bad as the shopper's drug mart red at 10405 jasper (the old standard life building) but i'm not sure that alone makes it fine.
    I don't even find that bad compared to some who seem to lose their heads as soon as their is a single 'lifestyle' image placed on a single pane of glass. It happens in EVERY city, this isn't just an 'Edmonton' thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
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    Its too bad that BMO covered the beautiful design with hideous cheap blue panels to reflect their suburban and rural bank outlets. Surely they could have used something more discrete and sophisticated in the downtown core.
    You mean the same ones that grace practically all of their branches. This is their corporate branding and for the minimal amount of frontage they have it's minor.
    It’s tacky.
    It's fine. But I guess that's my opinion.
    i suppose it's not as bad as the shopper's drug mart red at 10405 jasper (the old standard life building) but i'm not sure that alone makes it fine.
    I don't even find that bad compared to some who seem to lose their heads as soon as their is a single 'lifestyle' image placed on a single pane of glass. It happens in EVERY city, this isn't just an 'Edmonton' thing.
    it happens in every city isn’t a very high standard ChrisD...
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    Restaurants finally opening in new Kelly Ramsey tower
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ower-1.4382371
    - Credo and OEB coming soon
    - One space remaining: John Day is looking for mid-range restaurant, preferably local
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    2 great additions to the Downtown. I would love to see a great fish joint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    2 great additions to the Downtown. I would love to see a great fish joint.
    RIP .... Pacific Fish never lasted nor will another primary seafood eatery on RHW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Restaurants finally opening in new Kelly Ramsey tower
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ower-1.4382371
    - Credo and OEB coming soon
    - One space remaining: John Day is looking for mid-range restaurant, preferably local
    I am looking forward to OEB as I enjoy their food, but it's going to be crazy busy judging by my last visit to YYC a month ago. We tried to eat there and it was chaos (up to 2 hour waits) so we ended up at Beltliner instead.

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    ^the one in downtown Calgary is a little easier to get into, but it is busy as well.

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    OEB is going to be a welcomed addition to an underserved brunch market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    OEB is going to be a welcomed addition to an underserved brunch market.
    Now if Diner Deluxe could open a location here too then we'd be golden

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    Anyone know when Credo is supposed to open? It was closed when I went by today.
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    Family opening was Sat... so this week I presume.


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    Enbridge signage complete.


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    That looks nice, outline backlit at night.
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    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb55o6kF...=oeb_breakfast

    Its finally coming!!!

    OEB is the best in Calgary, definitely a great sign for Edmonton!

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    ^I'm sorry but who or what is OEB?

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    OEB, Breakfast Company. The OE stands for Over Easy

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    An excellent addition to that area/corner. They are still working on design, but we should see work commence in the not too distant future I am told.
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    Been to the one on I think 8th in Calgary, and it was really good. Kind of like Cora's, but not awful. So I guess not like Cora's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Been to the one on I think 8th in Calgary, and it was really good. Kind of like Cora's, but not awful. So I guess not like Cora's.
    5th Ave actually and there is another one a little more off the beaten path on Edmonton Trail N - much better than Cora's IMO

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    What a rad building. With the new trend in lighting stuff up downtown, Enbridge’s light box up top takes the cake for most tasteful. Some of the led lighting going up on certain buildings is too harsh - soft lighting is where it’s at.

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    That is the advantage of a brand new structure in the latest trend. Theyre easier to incorporate for the outcome affect.
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    135343506-087
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    10175 - 101 STREET NW
    Plan 1422995 Blk 1 Lot 39A

    To construct interior alterations to a restaurant space in a commercial mixed use building. Over Easy Breakfast (OEB)

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    To construct exterior alterations store front (relocate historical wood entrance doors on south elevation and to construct a new door on east elevation) to a 111.6 meter high Professional, Financial and Office Support Services Tower with main floor serving proposed General Retail and future Restaurants (Kelly Ramsey). Base building. Tenant improvements shall obtain a Building Permit

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    So my apologies as I don't walk past this building that much along RHW. Have any of the retail spaces been filled and opened?
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Reference ID: Job No 285538641-001
    Description: To install a Fascia On-premises Sign (OEB Breakfast)
    Location: 10175 - 101 STREET NW
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    Applicant: CITY IMAGE SIGNS
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    Smoking area?

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    Don't think that' legal or wanted there.
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    I've seen a few of these scattered about DT - place for employees to enjoy lunch on a beautiful day, hold informal meetings, etc.
    ... gobsmacked

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    The OEB place is coming along on the NE side albeit slowly. Apart from the Maggie Walt popup, any idea what's coming to the SE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    The OEB place is coming along on the NE side albeit slowly. Apart from the Maggie Walt popup, any idea what's coming to the SE?
    I hope OEB realizes this is Edmonton, not Calgary, and lowers their prices here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jackson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    The OEB place is coming along on the NE side albeit slowly. Apart from the Maggie Walt popup, any idea what's coming to the SE?
    I hope OEB realizes this is Edmonton, not Calgary, and lowers their prices here.
    Agreed. Very overpriced for what it is in Calgary.

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    Reference ID: Job No 285538641-001
    Description: To install a Fascia On-premises Sign (OEB Breakfast)
    Location: 10170 - 100A STREET NW
    Plan 1422995 Blk 1 Lot 39A
    Status: Approved
    Create Date: 8/10/2018 11:29:36 AM
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    OEB should opening sometime this fall.
    Still no takers for the big SE corner.
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    From Stantec - October 21, 2018.


    Enbridge Centre (from Stantec)b small by Spi11, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    OEB should opening sometime this fall.
    Still no takers for the big SE corner.
    Covers on the windows have been removed, looks good to go in there. I was on the other side of the street but I think the signs on the door said it opens October 29th.

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    Soft openings taking place.
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    Going to a soft opening on the 28th. Assuming it opens next week.
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    Opens on Monday! There was a private function today, presumably for the important people.
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    Heading there Sunday for a preview, cannot wait.

    I am hoping to work with existing and potential partners to expand the Downtown brunch scene.
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    LOL... important?
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    Be careful that "downtown brunch scene" doesn't expand You!
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    I might borrow that for a campaign
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    I walked by for a peek at OEB and everything looked plastic at first glance. I'll know for sure when I eat there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Heading there Sunday for a preview, cannot wait.
    Linda Hoang was there today so clearly they only invited the important people such as her and you!
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    OEB soft opening this morning. Great looking space, cosy, living room feel almost and good food. My photos do not do taste justice; that double smoked bacon was amazing. Portions are significant. What a great addition to the core.




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    LOL really? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This is a far stretch even for you iano
    Friendly neighborhood (non-double poster) photographer.

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    Actually, really. Great addition to the core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Actually, really. Great addition to the core.

    Do what you do, I will do what I do, we will see where the chips fall my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3RI3S View Post
    LOL really? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This is a far stretch even for you iano
    What's the "really" part about? Got a problem with this new restaurant? Never mind, don't answer - I got your too-cool-for-school- schlop thing you've got going on - where everything, everywhere sucks.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S3RI3S View Post
    LOL really? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This is a far stretch even for you iano
    What's the "really" part about? Got a problem with this new restaurant? Never mind, don't answer - I got your too-cool-for-school- schlop thing you've got going on - where everything, everywhere sucks.....

    Enbridge is a beautiful building, shut your whore mouth!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3RI3S View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S3RI3S View Post
    LOL really? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This is a far stretch even for you iano
    What's the "really" part about? Got a problem with this new restaurant? Never mind, don't answer - I got your too-cool-for-school- schlop thing you've got going on - where everything, everywhere sucks.....

    Enbridge is a beautiful building, shut your whore mouth!!
    Huh?! Where'd that come from? Enbridge itself was never in question.....your insane asylum remarks were/are in question. Mummy take away your Ritalin?

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    Wtf is going on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Wtf is going on here?
    Lack of an admin and moderators enforcing the rules
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    Ok, maybe it's time to de-activate S3RI3S. This is ridiculous.
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    Please and thank you.
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    OEB food is great, beautiful space and great location. There's a lot of buzz and interest in OEB.
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    Any word on their 124 Street location? I've yet to see any hint of action in the old North53 space.
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    ^Late summer 2019 at earliest. They are focusing on opening a location in Vancouver in the next 3-4 months first.
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    Now that I am only a couple of blocks away I might head over for a late breakfast or early lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Wtf is going on here?
    Lack of an admin and moderators enforcing the rules
    maybe.

    partly.

    but maybe it's also a reflection of a lack of self-moderation by some who should know better.

    there's more than a little poking the bear in both directions in too many threads by a relatively few number of posters who should know better but seem to be tone deaf.
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    Right after Ken expounded sensibility, you revert back to irrationality. Wow!

    I have nothing against you, but it is high time you and all of us represent this city with better decorum. This site is not for our sole entertainment. Go to the activity stream and look at the tallies of lurkers to our site. Some threads have upwards of over 50k+ views. Unless, we all want to be labeled in certain light.
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    ^Would work better if people used real names rather than aliases.
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    I for one relish in the chaos of a forum with limited moderation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    ^Would work better if people used real names rather than aliases.
    Real or pseudo names are irrelevant. One has to correct oneself from the core; otherwise, it is just a gorgeous colour of lipstick on a pig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    I for one relish in the chaos of a forum with limited moderation.
    Won't win me any favour, but I agree - a good flame war every now and then is pure cyber-entertaining. Sorry.
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    I thought the whole concept of dialogue was to advance. Is your life that miserable McBoo?
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    Mods gave up on us.

    /thread

    Still crying over there IANO?
    sorry i was so harsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    I thought the whole concept of dialogue was to advance. Is your life that miserable McBoo?
    I wouldn’t get particularly triggered by our mutual opinion. Watching things train wreck on the internet can be genuinely entertaining so long as you realize that 90 percent of the internet is people projecting their own humour, which can be misunderstood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    I thought the whole concept of dialogue was to advance. Is your life that miserable McBoo?
    LOL - it's actually pretty good. But sometimes, not always but sometimes, the writing in a good flame war gets very creative!
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