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    So why does the area need a parkade?

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    They probably need parking to make up for the lack of parking on their other sites nearby, primarily the tower immediately north - I don't think it has any parking. Mostly, though, I expect the point is to reduce costs for the new towers they intend to build in the area but building cheap ugly above grade parking rather than building more expensive underground parking or just less of it.

    There's no reason that they couldn't go down a level on this site though. after all, they managed a level below grade across the street. And with the LRT line being limited to a fairly small portion of the north end of the site they could still go down several levels on the rest of the block if they wanted to.
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    The back side


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    I doubt this will ever get past EDC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.ike View Post
    put a giant screen on there and I might swing onto the 'this is okay' camp.

    The side facing the park just need a nice mural
    as it stands, the west side facing the park is the only thing - imo - that reflects well on the east side facing the street by giving it something to be better than...

    this smacks of wanting to build a parkade (for which i can appreciate the demand and the rationale) but doing nothing more than tarting up some of the elevations with some token lipstick and then dropping some awful residential on the roof is a huge design failure at this stage.

    as for the practicality of a parkade at this location, i sure wouldn't want to be one of the 287 parkade users trying to get in or our of it every morning or afternoon/evening although it might make the time it takes to enter or exit the edmonton tower parkade at the end of the day seem like a cakewalk in comparision.
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    It looks a bit like a cartoon gray elephant trying to hide behind a sapling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Star View Post
    This has to be the worst thing I've seen since.......The Venetian.

    IMG_5431 by BLACK STAR III, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    So why does the area need a parkade?
    All of downtown needs at least a few parkades worth of parking. Not one has been built in decades, save for those that sit under new buildings. There's obviously a demand for parking in the area (as evidenced by the surface lots all over the place) and I'm all for getting that parking consolidated in to several new, purpose built parkades and out of unpaved surface lots. Provided that they're well designed, that is.

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    Nothing screams urban center like a giant mural of horses?
    What is going on with this thing...it's like the worst execution of each element piled together into a really really poor final product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    So why does the area need a parkade?
    All of downtown needs at least a few parkades worth of parking. Not one has been built in decades, save for those that sit under new buildings. There's obviously a demand for parking in the area (as evidenced by the surface lots all over the place) and I'm all for getting that parking consolidated in to several new, purpose built parkades and out of unpaved surface lots. Provided that they're well designed, that is.
    Concur in full. I'd much rather some additional well-designed structures than surface lots. We need capacity so that we can redevelop other spaces.
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    Looks like they got rid of the copyrighted trade names. All generic shops now.


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    This proposal is so bad no words from me will convey my thoughts on it, so I'm just going to leave this picture here for all to see:


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    Seriously though...

    This is a troll job, right?

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    Maybe they had an office bet on whether they could get the interns practice rendering file past EDC.

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    Please let that be a placeholder. That design is horrible, notwithstanding it's a parkade. Absolutely none of the design makes sense, like a Manga cartoon version of a building. Also it's way more expensive to build that than something that was well design. Please let it be a placeholder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AAAAE View Post
    A new design is available from procura.



    source: http://procura.ca/portfolio/commercial/

    This looks rather odd.
    I can't remember if there was another design before these, I think there was. The first was nice, second a bit odd but ok, although the parkade is there already, this current one, wellllll....

    So why again couldn't they have built the first one out of these two designs?
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick5150 View Post
    It looks a bit like a cartoon gray elephant trying to hide behind a sapling.

    What am I looking at?!
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    A parkade with dwellings on top and PV.
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    a dumpster fire of a building

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    Maybe he got ideas from that thing he put on to of his walk-up on 106 Street. Which also looks horrible.
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    [QUOTE=Edmcowboy11;883051]Yes, I wish they would have stuck with this or modified it only slightly.

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    Check the dates. Was this posted April 1?

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    So why cant they do that design ian? the LRT isnt below this land is it?

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    I applaud Procura for doing something groundbreaking. Ie, unifying the C2E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    I applaud Procura for doing something groundbreaking. Ie, unifying the C2E.
    You, sir, win the Internet today!

    Has anyone else noticed, in both this and the last (almost as hideous) rendering, that the sidewalk in front of the retail is laughably too narrow?

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    [QUOTE=TRtower;883100]
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    Yes, I wish they would have stuck with this or modified it only slightly.
    Its kind of in keeping with their building across the street. I get the feeling this thread is a sound board for "George" just to get reactions from c2e.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magnus View Post
    So why cant they do that design ian? the LRT isnt below this land is it?
    I think the LRT runs right under the AEB. I haven't seen a map of the LRT there for some time though.
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    I know it ran under the mayfair but after that i thought it ran under the road to a a certain part when then it moved a bit over to the right

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    The map that I found has the LRT route just kissing the southeast corner of the AE/Tron building, so it's mostly under the alley at that point. The end of the curve is under 110st so the part under this property is pretty much the halfway point of the curve so you can approximate with a 45degree line from there.

    It's really not under that much of the site.
    There can only be one.

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    so then whats the problem with having the nondumpster fire looking renders being placed at this site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magnus View Post
    So why cant they do that design ian? the LRT isnt below this land is it?
    The tunnels run underneath the Northern third of the site, roughly. Maybe even half. This is based upon detailed civil drawings from Mayfair North that clearly show the tunnel, but only the Northern half of the Cascadia site. And in any case, you can pretty much draw a curve from Mayfair North's cutback for the tunnels across the street. The tunnels only are only located under a tiny sliver of the WSP building, but they undercut the entire Northern portion of the Cascadia site. Unless someone thinks that they can squeeze two LRT tunnels, plus a curve, in a 10-12 foot wide alley/utility corridor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II
    It's really not under that much of the site.


    Yes, it is.
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    I think the LRT goes right underneath the proposed Cascadia location.
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    The front looks decent. The back should be covered completely with colored plexiglass (
    red) with the main floor turned into retail; coordinate the resident portion with the same color and it would be OK.
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    Anyone at EDC tonight? My understanding from the agenda was that this was being presented (formally in public).

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    Quote Originally Posted by millwoods View Post
    Anyone at EDC tonight? My understanding from the agenda was that this was being presented (formally in public).
    Confirmed, was a formal presentation and thus open to the public. What was presented was very different from what was previously proposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by millwoods View Post
    Anyone at EDC tonight? My understanding from the agenda was that this was being presented (formally in public).
    Confirmed, was a formal presentation and thus open to the public. What was presented was very different from what was previously proposed.
    Hopefully someone will be able to post a picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    Confirmed, was a formal presentation and thus open to the public. What was presented was very different from what was previously proposed.
    Is that good news or bad news?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    Confirmed, was a formal presentation and thus open to the public. What was presented was very different from what was previously proposed.
    Is that good news or bad news?
    haha Adamantium is really leaving us in suspense here...

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    For the worse or better in your opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    Confirmed, was a formal presentation and thus open to the public. What was presented was very different from what was previously proposed.
    Is that good news or bad news?
    Hopefully Manasc-Isaac is a good sign...

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    ^ don't know about that, it's their name on the dumpster fire posted in post #216

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    For the worse or better in your opinion?
    I'd say that the members of this forum would likely be pleased with the changes

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    I want the giant glass boot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    For the worse or better in your opinion?
    I'd say that the members of this forum would likely be pleased with the changes
    I take your word for it and looking forward to seeing the final product; and, more importantly, the abatement of another dirt lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buildings View Post
    ^ don't know about that, it's their name on the dumpster fire posted in post #216
    Better than post #203... and also less likely to be a firm proposal - seems like a pretty conceptual glossy glass boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    I want the giant glass boot!!
    +1, but doubtful.

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