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    I have to admit I haven't been down in person yet, but from the photos it sure doesn't look like a good place to play.

    ^^^Kids garden if they're among the 8 or so lucky households to win a bit of free public land.
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    ^Our Urban Kids group will using a large corner communal bed space. It was their idea.
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    Noodle, I doubt that too many liquefied hockey fans will be bothered about looking around for portapotties. Not while all the usual corners and walls are available. It'll be business as usual.
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    Alex Decoteau Park is nearing completion, our first Downtown park in decades! While the signs are now down, fresh sod has been laid that needs a few weeks to settle and take root.

    We would like to invite you to experience the new park at our Annual CornFest this year on September 9! Details to come soon.

    In addition, please mark your calendars for the formal Dedication Ceremony on September 16.

    Until then the park will remain an active construction site and we would appreciate your help in staying off the grass.
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    Understandable, palatable, but late notice.
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    ^Awesome
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    Woah, that's even less grass than I thought from street level.

    I'm glad it turned out like those most involved wanted it to, even if I'd have aspired for more in my own neighbourhood.

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    ^lol so salty.... Looks great IMO, a welcomed addition in the neighbourhood for sure.

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    Multi-purpose, multi-use.
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    well, I finally sauntered down to have a look see for myself. I stand corrected; there are a lot of benches for weary bones to sit on. The wi-fi reception though is terrible!

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    They added some bar-height seating yesterday that looks fun. Great for a laptop or lunch.
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    or chess or checkers.
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    I walked past today.

    Benches look nice. Grass areas are a bit small.

    Park project didn't re-do sidewalks, so those are still in rough shape, and along the east side the sidewalk needs to be expanded and street trees need to be added. Other than the existing street trees on the south and a few columnar aspen on the west along the lane all the trees look like small ornamentals so additional shade would be welcome, and without a boulevard along the sidewalk the park just dies at the edge.

    I suppose even with a boulevard people will be unlikely to sunbath right at the edge of the sidewalk, but without them there will be a wide border that's not so much park as buffer.
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    ^There is a streetscaping plan for the Downtown area being completed as we speak. That will address the east side in terms of boulevard trees.

    On the southside the sidewalk will be expanded quite a bit when the Valley Line LRT goes through. There is a stop right there and why some of Alex D. choices were made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
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    What's that little shed with the blue roof in the top right corner?
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    The shed by the garden? Aka the garden shed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    ^There is a streetscaping plan for the Downtown area being completed as we speak. That will address the east side in terms of boulevard trees.

    On the southside the sidewalk will be expanded quite a bit when the Valley Line LRT goes through. There is a stop right there and why some of Alex D. choices were made.
    Thanks, that makes sense.

    I didn't know about the downtown streetscaping plan, sounds interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    The shed by the garden? Aka the garden shed?
    Ah! No real answer. It's a disguised Tardis. I just knew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howie View Post
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    The shed by the garden? Aka the garden shed?
    Ah! No real answer. It's a disguised Tardis. I just knew it.
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    Nice to hear this project is coming in on time and under budget.

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    CornFest 2017 is this Saturday, 11-3 at the new Alex Decoteau Park! Free local corn-on-the-cob, dog off-leash and kids activities!
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    Corn Fest at Alex Decoteau Park
    September 7, 2017

    Media are invited to Alex Decoteau Park to celebrate with the community during Downtown Edmonton Community League’s annual Corn Fest.

    This event provides the first opportunity to photograph the new park with the fences removed. Martina Gardiner, Director of Open Space Delivery and Landscape Architect for this project, will be available to speak to the design and construction of the park.

    Date: September 9, 2017
    Time: noon to 1 p.m.
    Location: Alex Decoteau Park (northwest corner of 105 Street and 102 Avenue)

    Note: Martina will station herself on the west side of the park at the dog park entrance.

    This is a community-led event. The official grand opening and formal dedication ceremony of Alex Decoteau Park is on September 16, 2017.

    For more information:
    For more information about this park project, visit edmonton.ca/alexdecoteaupark

    Information about Corn Fest is available on the Downtown Edmonton Community League Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/events/338241873269833/

    Media contact:
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    Will there be corn, or just really bad Dad jokes?
    I feel in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    600 cobs or something like that.
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    Cornholiofest !!

    Top_Dawg's favorite.

    And back to Saturday again.

    Excellent !

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    There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post
    Cornholiofest !!

    Top_Dawg's favorite.

    And back to Saturday again.

    Excellent !
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    Fencing was removed this evening...let's see who stays there tonight :P

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    I'll try to check it out tomorrow if I can.
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    What a day.

    Hundres and hundreds of people. SO many dogs, families, kids.

    Amazing to see.


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    Edmonton's new downtown park to honour nation's first Indigenous police officer

    Alex Decoteau was First World War hero and represented Canada at 1912 Olympics

    By Gareth Hampshire, CBC News

    The steel security fences will come down Saturday to reveal a new downtown park, built in honour of one of Edmonton's most extraordinary former residents.

    It will be the first chance for people to walk inside Alex Decoteau Park at 105th Street and 102nd Avenue.

    Killed in 1917 during the Second Battle of Passchendaele, Decoteau's legacy continues to inspire Canadians a century later.

    He represented Canada at the 1912 Olympics as a long distance runner, and served in the First World War.

    But he is perhaps best known as the first Indigenous police officer in the country.

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    It didn't seem that full, but the concrete benches looked so comfy...lol

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    Is there a design reason for all the random concrete pads spread around the park? Is it trying to dissuade people from playing Frisbee or catch or anything where you wouldn't want to fall on concrete?

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    I was pretty psyched about this park, but having actually experienced it now, it's SO MUCH better than what I was expecting. It feels BIG, even the off-leash dog area that I was assuming would be way too small for big dogs. The fenced-in bits (that dog park and the community garden) are just terrific, but they still don't take away from all of the open spaces. Great job, everyone involved.
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    Monster & I having a play in our new backyard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bolo View Post
    Is there a design reason for all the random concrete pads spread around the park? Is it trying to dissuade people from playing Frisbee or catch or anything where you wouldn't want to fall on concrete?
    Design elements mixed in with usable spaces for a variety of needs including more seating on some of those pads. There is plenty of room for catch/frisbee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    It didn't seem that full, but the concrete benches looked so comfy...lol
    Most of the day it was absolutely packed.

    Those all have that composite 2x4 product on top to sit on. They are fine.
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    I was at the downtown market yesterday so I popped by the new park to check it out and congratulate both Ian and GreenSPACE for their parts in seeing this come to fruition. It was great to see lots of people with kiddies and doggies. Looks good, and it will look even better once the trees are fully grown and the community garden is in full use next spring. I still think public washrooms would be nice, but I noticed the Renaissance Hotel just down the road so that's probably the best option. I likely won't use it much myself since I am in the river valley but the nearby residents certainly will.
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    Interestingly enough, we had multiple dog owners who drove in from outside of the Downtown to take advantage of the fenced off-leash. Perhaps it will become a bit of an attraction as well.
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    Congrats to everyone that worked hard to make this park a reality! I rode by on my bike yesterday and it was great to see the fencing down and people enjoying it. Really nice to see more trees and green space in the heart of the city. I look forward to seeing more green space downtown in the future with the planned park for the gravel lots North of BP's.

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    I'd have never have used the off leash. My guys are cool, other dogs get stupid. But, its nice it was enjoyed,I prefer sitting on my grass with my dogs running laps..

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    The off leash has been the most popular part of the park thus far.
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    Went for a nice walk through the park for the first time in my round-the-home hobo clothing. It's a nice park with a big feel. An excellent addition to the community and I thank everyone involved for the years of work.

    My one criticism of the park is the installation of slabs within the grass-space. I owned a small company which did niche landscape design work back in my university days and my feeling is that it was a design element to give aesthetic appeal from an overhead vantage point. At the ground-level, I think they kind of interfere with what is going to be a large play space for people tossing the frisbee and football. Just my two cents.

    I still give it an A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Monster & I having a play in our new backyard.
    ^^ it's actually a pretty good sized space. How are people so far at picking up after their little monsters? The baggie dispenser will need daily refills I imagine. And the garbage can will need regular emptying hehe.

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    Very respectful and there is a committee managing it through DECL.

    It feels much larger than I would have thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    Went for a nice walk through the park for the first time in my round-the-home hobo clothing. It's a nice park with a big feel. An excellent addition to the community and I thank everyone involved for the years of work.

    My one criticism of the park is the installation of slabs within the grass-space. I owned a small company which did niche landscape design work back in my university days and my feeling is that it was a design element to give aesthetic appeal from an overhead vantage point. At the ground-level, I think they kind of interfere with what is going to be a large play space for people tossing the frisbee and football. Just my two cents.

    I still give it an A.
    Design wise they are nice, but yes, I am hoping that 'we' can get some neat seating like Muskoka chairs or one you can lounge on put along 1 of those to increase the usability of that area. Lots of room to throw the ball though. We played football yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    The off leash has been the most popular part of the park thus far.
    When dogs are cooped up, it would be. Just think how kids in a condo feel..

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    Which is why we provided a large open green space for them to play with their parents and for them to ride their little wheeled things in the park.
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    I feel like the Warehouse District has a capacity over the next couple years of becoming a Parks and Education District. It's hard to imagine what this will be like in 10 years with the LRT rolling through, 102 avenue transformed into something of a cyclist/pedestrian corridor, several large parks and the potential expansion of Norquest-West.

    That doesn't even tie into the prospect of one or two residential developments going ahead.
    There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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    or 3...or 4...or 5... or...
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    White Lives Matter rally at Alex Decoteau Park this evening.

    Followed by a night of looting, rioting, and civil unrest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post


    White Lives Matter rally at Alex Decoteau Park this evening.

    Followed by a night of looting, rioting, and civil unrest.

    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
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    Monster & I having a play in our new backyard.
    ^^ it's actually a pretty good sized space. How are people so far at picking up after their little monsters? The baggie dispenser will need daily refills I imagine. And the garbage can will need regular emptying hehe.
    Good. There is a large digestor underground that collects the dog waste, is relatively odourless and has a large capacity (think twice the size of a garbage can) and is picked up by Parks regularly.
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    I hope the City is more diligent about keeping the doggie bag dispensers stocked than they are on the well-used trails near me. They've been empty since the first installation of the dispensers eighteen months ago. Yes, 311 has been called but we all know how well that works.
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    ^Dog Ambassador program can help with that if you have residents or community members willing to participate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    ^Dog Ambassador program can help with that if you have residents or community members willing to participate.

    https://www.edmonton.ca/activities_p...r-program.aspx
    Thats an excellent program! My sister had a small dog( off leash) and all of a sudden another dog grabbed it by the throat, it was a terrible experience. So mine stay on leash, unless its a huge ball park of something..with no other dogs around. They are fine in kennels etc..I'm just overly cautious I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by howie View Post
    I hope the City is more diligent about keeping the doggie bag dispensers stocked than they are on the well-used trails near me. They've been empty since the first installation of the dispensers eighteen months ago. Yes, 311 has been called but we all know how well that works.
    95% of dog owners I know/see carry their own.
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    ^ Yes, they do around here also, Ian. It's just as well they do, given the City's torpor.
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    Waiting for:

    A) Art installation
    B) A whole summer to pass

    B4 judging.
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    The park looks nice from the street and is better than what was there before. Of course, it is not hard to improve on a gravel parking lot.

    I think it could have done with a bit less concrete, might have cost a bit less too.

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    What's the details on art installation?

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    How much does that cost?

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    That's kinda cool.

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    Alex crossing the finish line of one of his races or perhaps standing in the wind or perhaps something larger than all of that.
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    ^^^Part of 1% for Art policy.

    There is a fence up for the installation. Fingers crossed it's installed before Saturday's park dedication.
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    I was told it will be.
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    It's being unveiled at the opening. But it's raining today. Fingers crossed!
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    The sculpture is up. Looks good
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    Awesome!
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    Beautiful and a beautiful tribute to Alex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Beautiful and a beautiful tribute to Alex.

    I'm not always keen on abstract artwork in public places but this does look very nice.
    There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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    That's perfectly fine.
    But a bronze statue of the man himself would be even better.
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    There will be a plaque with his story, but the intent was never to memorialize Alex, it was to celebrate his life and contributions... this art does that.
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    Not a big fan of all the concrete protrusions. From angle shots it looks almost like a graveyard. Nothing more unattractive either, or uncomfortable, than wet concrete. Not sure why they went that way with seating surfaces. In anycase the concrete will fairly insure that these seats, even the ones finished with wood, will be too cold to sit on 6 or more months of the year. Not a great use of materials for an Edmonton climate. Plus how drab and uninviting this will look in winter.

    Hope somebody has filled in the art installation base already. Somebody could easily trip or fall in there if not paying attention. Normally you would put a rail or sawhorses around to prevent somebody from stepping in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Not a big fan of all the concrete protrusions. From angle shots it looks almost like a graveyard. Nothing more unattractive either, or uncomfortable, than wet concrete. Not sure why they went that way with seating surfaces. In anycase the concrete will fairly insure that these seats, even the ones finished with wood, will be too cold to sit on 6 or more months of the year. Not a great use of materials for an Edmonton climate. Plus how drab and uninviting this will look in winter.

    Hope somebody has filled in the art installation base already. Somebody could easily trip or fall in there if not paying attention. Normally you would put a rail or sawhorses around to prevent somebody from stepping in.
    such drivel....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    There will be a plaque with his story, but the intent was never to memorialize Alex, it was to celebrate his life and contributions... this art does that.



    How so ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Not a big fan of all the concrete protrusions. From angle shots it looks almost like a graveyard. Nothing more unattractive either, or uncomfortable, than wet concrete. Not sure why they went that way with seating surfaces. In anycase the concrete will fairly insure that these seats, even the ones finished with wood, will be too cold to sit on 6 or more months of the year. Not a great use of materials for an Edmonton climate. Plus how drab and uninviting this will look in winter.

    Hope somebody has filled in the art installation base already. Somebody could easily trip or fall in there if not paying attention. Normally you would put a rail or sawhorses around to prevent somebody from stepping in.
    such drivel....
    What a solid contribution to the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    There will be a plaque with his story, but the intent was never to memorialize Alex, it was to celebrate his life and contributions... this art does that.



    How so ?
    I'm wondering if the metal used to make this is even green...(sarcasm), catch my rant thread today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    There will be a plaque with his story, but the intent was never to memorialize Alex, it was to celebrate his life and contributions... this art does that.



    How so ?
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    Ahh, Esprit.

    Gotcha.


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    Art is up (as posted), base has been concreted in. Plaque stand is installed, plaque on it's way today.

    Oversight was bike racks, which became obvious at last Saturday's event. The city has them on order now.

    Event tomorrow could see 200-300 people. 120 members of Alex Decoteau's family, dignitaries, community, etc. Fingers crossed I don't screw up any of the protocol or names.

    All are welcome, starts at 11am and the program is about 35 minutes long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    Art is up (as posted), base has been concreted in. Plaque stand is installed, plaque on it's way today.

    Oversight was bike racks, which became obvious at last Saturday's event. The city has them on order now.

    Event tomorrow could see 200-300 people. 120 members of Alex Decoteau's family, dignitaries, community, etc. Fingers crossed I don't screw up any of the protocol or names.

    All are welcome, starts at 11am and the program is about 35 minutes long.
    Will there be free food.
    There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Not a big fan of all the concrete protrusions. From angle shots it looks almost like a graveyard. Nothing more unattractive either, or uncomfortable, than wet concrete. Not sure why they went that way with seating surfaces. In anycase the concrete will fairly insure that these seats, even the ones finished with wood, will be too cold to sit on 6 or more months of the year. Not a great use of materials for an Edmonton climate. Plus how drab and uninviting this will look in winter.

    Hope somebody has filled in the art installation base already. Somebody could easily trip or fall in there if not paying attention. Normally you would put a rail or sawhorses around to prevent somebody from stepping in.
    Not a hundred percent sure how you can compare this to a graveyard from a landscape architecture standpoint but to each his own lol. Invitation in a winter climate is a point well brought up though and can be achieved through wall art on the surrounding buildings. Other than that there's not much you can expect from a park in a prairie city during the winter time. And that's to be expected seeing as how it's winter time in a prairie city.
    There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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    Alex Decoteau Dedication Ceremony
    September 15, 2017

    Media and the public are invited to join the City of Edmonton and Mayor Don Iveson at the official dedication ceremony for Downtown Edmonton's newest green space, Alex Decoteau Park. The park is named after Canada's first aboriginal police officer, who joined EPS in 1909. Members of the Edmonton Police Services, the Canadian Forces, the community and descendants of Alex Decoteau, will be on hand for the dedication ceremony.

    Date: Saturday, September 16
    Time: 11 a.m. - noon
    Location: Alex Decoteau Park (northwest corner of 105 Street and 102 Avenue)

    Speakers include:
    Janice Smith, Director, Exhibits & Programming, Canada’s Sports Hall of Fame
    Lt-Col. Jon McCully, Commanding Officer of the Loyal Edmonton Regiment
    Police Chief Rod Knecht, Edmonton Police Service
    Mayor Don Iveson
    Izola Mottershead, Alex Decoteau’s great niece
    Pierre Poussin, artist

    Photo Opportunity: The new artwork, entitled Esprit, will be unveiled at the ceremony, including short remarks by the artist Pierre Poussin.

    For more information:
    edmonton.ca/alexdecoteaupark

    Media contact:
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    587-594-1159
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    This park is quite popular for skateboarders. Maybe that central park can include a skate park

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.ike View Post
    This park is quite popular for skateboarders. Maybe that central park can include a skate park
    Or - some other amenity to serve some other activity. Skateboarders seem well served already.
    Same for kids spray parks - there’s lots of them scattered about now.

    I’m not sure what we have for other special interests. Any cardio parks, kids club parks, tactile/mechanized feature parks, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.ike View Post
    This park is quite popular for skateboarders. Maybe that central park can include a skate park
    At one point they talked about turning the Milner Library plaza into a skate park.
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    Well from what Top_Dawg sees that's pretty much what it had become prior to the reno project.

    That and a place for all the baby wannabe thugs and dial-a-dopers to fuq around on their BMX bikes between deliveries to their custies.

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    Skaters are on the radar as people have been bringing it to various people's attention. My guess is that you will see some additional bits and pieces added to prevent the new benches from being damaged.

    @B.ike - I would love to see this in QE park or LMP like the Forks. Provide them spaces to improve their craft and elevate the variety of options for our youth.
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