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    Whenever we see green blue glass on a rendering we know exactly what it will be. It's the same glass found condos in Vancouver and Toronto.

    It is the cheapest glass on the market.. it really is a known quantity.
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    This partial excavation and the terrible fencing around it are becoming a real eyesore. It's been months since anything at all has happened. The fence looks shabby and barely adequate. I wish they would at least put some signage for the project.

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    Yea I completely agree, they are lacking the resources I think to continue

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    Do your research on this forum rico rather assume. According to Channin- design committee- it is waiting for approval. They got the permit for this aspect of constuction. You just had to go back a few posts and would have clued in...

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    Enough with the advice for how other users should post on C2E. It's getting to be a bit much. Nobody died and made you king of the castle. You can always ignore. Or hit report post. In the end you're just being pushy.

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    ^
    No but people need to either Ask what is going on to find out the scoop or do some research..

    People can be wrong but please put in a little effort.
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    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Enough with the advice for how other users should post on C2E. It's getting to be a bit much. Nobody died and made you king of the castle. You can always ignore. Or hit report post. In the end you're just being pushy.
    No im neither of that; however, I am a fair, honest and non lazy individual. That type of comment- without credence- can hurt developers. Once again, people scroll through here for info.

    I guess folks like you don't pride yourself on those values and believe it is your right to make things up as you please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Enough with the advice for how other users should post on C2E. It's getting to be a bit much. Nobody died and made you king of the castle. You can always ignore. Or hit report post. In the end you're just being pushy.
    No im neither of that; however, I am a fair, honest and non lazy individual. That type of comment- without credence- can hurt developers. Once again, people scroll through here for info.

    I guess folks like you don't pride yourself on those values and believe it is your right to make things up as you please?
    I just know the history of the developer/company and the way these industries often work and it wouldn't surprise me if this was part of the problem. It's a common problem. It's reasonable conjecture to make as an outsider looking in and watching.

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    I moonlight in construction; member of the 1325 carpenters union; i am part of the industry,so tell me basic things i wouldn't know...
    If one considers oneself somewhat respectable, conjectures and hearsay shouldn't be equated in them what so ever. Any defense to it would just make one smaller. I base everything on facts and knowledge- sometimes it is based on reliance of others base on their association directly within eg. Channing or Ian as two examples.

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    I think I saw a construction trailer next to the site when I drove past there last night...anyone know if this is new? Could be a sign of impending activity...
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    I don't remember seeing a trailer there before. I hope this is a sign of moving forward.
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    ^^ I noticed that yesterday too, must be planning for some more action on that site soon.

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    Great to hear, we need some more action over there.
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    I drive by now and then, and if there is a trailer there, that is new. The first trailer is normally the genneral contractor's, so some part or the whole project is about to commence. Perhaps Channing can confirm to us if the project is approved as he mentioned recently it was still in the process- only the pit portion was approved. Another crane in this area will really enhance momentum and give a visual impact of changes.

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    Well based off of a conversation I've had with a friend who has lived in that area for quite awhile this will be a very positive step forward since so much has been promised for the area and nothing has ever delivered.
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    The number of projects for the that intersection over the years that have not gone ahead is in the dozens. I hope this doesn't become yet another.

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    I think the momentum of a population influx to our city will be longterm as we're the heart and centre for the resources and the blue collar jobs; so this time, my instincts tells me physical transformation will occur to accomodate for the migration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    I drive by now and then, and if there is a trailer there, that is new. The first trailer is normally the genneral contractor's, so some part or the whole project is about to commence. Perhaps Channing can confirm to us if the project is approved as he mentioned recently it was still in the process- only the pit portion was approved. Another crane in this area will really enhance momentum and give a visual impact of changes.
    The only permit that has been issued to date was an excavation permit down to 1.5M

    THey haven't applied for anything else yet.
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    ^They also haven't been back to EDC since the last rejection.

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    Didnt the cornerstone funding have a requirement/deadline for construction?
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    I know the City was pushing hard on things for a while. It's an important project for The Quarters.

    Personally I think the architect was what let them down.

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    Thanks Channing! Yes, it is vital to the area especially in conjunction with the hotel currently under construction. The more cranes visible, the more engaging this area will become.

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    The positive in the area is that the hotel is progressing. It would be very nice to see this project seeing some progress too.
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    132614870-004
    21-Oct-2013
    10217 - 95 STREET NW
    Plan 1221938 Blk 1 Lot 2
    To construct temporary COVERED
    WAY HOARDING for
    excavation/shoring
    "Five Corners" 25October2013 to
    25January2014 [Jasper Av/102A
    Av/95 St total 169 lin m]
    FORTIS LGS STRUCTURES INC Value: $6,100
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    ... Finally.
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    Yeah!! Let's get this goin!
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    I forgot they named that district 5 Corners. Great to see movement on this.
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    ^ It's been referred to as that for quite some time. It's not really a "district"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 240GLT View Post
    ^ It's been referred to as that for quite some time. It's not really a "district"
    I said I forgot that it was called that.

    Also, the City actually uses both terms, as well as precincts.

    The Quarters' Districts

    Five distinct districts or precincts make up The Quarters Downtown. There are four “quarters” each having their own unique character and design; at the centre will be a linear park corridor known as The Armature.
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    ^ The five corners area (it's been called that for a decade now) is not in itself a district
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    YAY.

    Finally!

    There's actually quite a bit happening on 95 Street these days between Jasper Avenue and 118 Avenue. I'm pretty optimistic about this corridor.

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    That area along Jasper is a blank canvas of empty parking lots, yet such incredible proximity to the valley and downtown. Watch it explode now that there are a few early adopters taking the risk.

    I am curious though, will we see a similar but smaller version of what's happening in Vancouver where the rough areas are gentrifying and the anarchists are fighting it? With the arena pushing north and this stuff pushing east, we're pushing the homeless, addicted, and those that prey on them out.
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    ^^^
    It's time for ALL of Edmonton to answer the call to help shoulder the burden of a citywide problem - it's not a Boyle-McCauley or a Ward 6 specific problem.

    These areas have already done more than their fair share for a very long time and will always have social services integrated into them.

    Focus your concerns on Terwillegar Towne hiring lawyers to escape shouldering their share.

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    This project will only succeed if they price it right IMO. Similar to Woodward's in downtown Van. It's prices were much lower than comparable units west and many were leery.... but it sold incredibly quickly and now is in high demand.
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    An excavator is back on site today

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    I've heard the DP will be submitted next week, and we may be seeing a unique addition to the project...
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    ^Interesting. Care to define/elaborate on "unique"?

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    Nothing external or visual to passersby.
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    Probably a pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialog View Post
    Nothing external or visual to passersby.
    balrog in basement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdriveaSubaru View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dialog View Post
    Nothing external or visual to passersby.
    balrog in basement?
    Considering the neighbourhood, mmmmmaaaaayyyybe...
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    passed by on the way to work and the movement of earth has resumed

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    ^ you saw me kicking that rock around the site hey! ;-P
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    Noticed last night that they are driving in shoring beams. So that's a positive sign
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    They were going full-tilt on Saturday, excavating. Definitely moving ahead.
    Almost always open to debate...

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    I'm excited to learn about the update for this project
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    Good to hear, it makes me even more anxious to see the SE LRT built ASAP.
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    What a difference /impact this will have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    What a difference /impact this will have.
    It's going to be reassuring for the residents along 102A Ave (who have valiantly staked a homestead there) to look out their front windows and see a highrise condo in their neighborhood. But I sincerely hope it helps to reinvigorate that sad, forlorn empty Chinese mall across the street.
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    photo by chrisvazquez, on Flickr


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    Moving dirt at 7:40 this morning, good to see!
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    This project is going to have more of a skyline impact than most projects U/C right now.
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    So is this the actual excavation dig?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    This project is going to have more of a skyline impact than most projects U/C right now.
    And yet no good quality image of what it will even look like has been made available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    So is this the actual excavation dig?
    Yup, shoring rig on site it appears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    This project is going to have more of a skyline impact than most projects U/C right now.
    Very much so. From many vantage points it will do to east Jasper what Pearl did to west Jasper. Time to get a wider angle camera kids.
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    ^Looks like only one storey? Or I could be wrong until they get shoring in.
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    CTV News on the start of construction:

    http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1545976

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    Very cool news article and such a great step forward for this area. I can't wait to see what it's all going to turn out to be in a couple years time from now.
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    Woohoo! Cool video with the brief archival images of the various corners. I had forgotten that there was a diner on the northeast corner, although I remember the Safeways across the street.
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    its exciting yes, looks like the tower has taken quite the beating

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    This project is going to have more of a skyline impact than most projects U/C right now.
    I agree! Not only that, it will have impacts to multitude issues in a very positive direction. Lets hope the old downtown is truly rejuvenated!

    Re: norwoodguy...
    Where exactly was that safeway in correlation to the street/avenue at current stage? That is way beyond my time and memory of the area lol!

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    I feel like 95 Street is going to be 124 Street's eastern counter part in the coming future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    This project is going to have more of a skyline impact than most projects U/C right now.
    I agree! Not only that, it will have impacts to multitude issues in a very positive direction. Lets hope the old downtown is truly rejuvenated!

    Re: norwoodguy...
    Where exactly was that safeway in correlation to the street/avenue at current stage? That is way beyond my time and memory of the area lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Re: norwoodguy...
    Where exactly was that safeway in correlation to the street/avenue at current stage? That is way beyond my time and memory of the area lol!
    That Orange Crush sign was a fixture on that corner for many years. I also remember that there was a butcher's shop across the street from Safeways.



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    Nice to see construction finally underway.

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    Correct me if im wrong. Was that safeway still there around 1987/88?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Correct me if im wrong. Was that safeway still there around 1987/88?
    My memory is a bit fuzzy, I thought it closed in the early 70s but I could very well be wrong.
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    Good to see, how tower is slightly more appealing then renderings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
    I feel like 95 Street is going to be 124 Street's eastern counter part in the coming future.
    20 years perhaps. (and this being a rational view I would love to see 95st turn into that though!!!)

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    Transformation generally takes roughly 15-20 yrs., so your rational view seems fair. I, too, agree that 95st. has potential; if planned right, eventually it will be tied into 118 ave. Which has already commenced revitalization. Developers need to keep this in mind though if it is to turn into a destination street and prep up now for commercial etc. on main floors.

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    Remember that it takes several years - even a couple of decades - for a street to transform.
    It's taken 15 years for 124 St to become what it is now, and the process is still ongoing.
    Up until about 15 years ago, 104 St was rife with alcoholics, junkies and hookers.
    Alberta Ave is vastly different from 10 years ago, but still a work in progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanC View Post
    Good to see, how tower is slightly more appealing then renderings.
    Appealing is not the word I would have used.

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    A great addition for the area!!! It's about time for this one to finally 100% go ahead

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    In the next 5 years there is going to be a nice transformation for the whole east side of central edmonton

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    she-hulk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAAAE View Post
    So correct me if I'm wrong: this view lis looking eastward along Jasper from 96st; Corner 1 is on the left.
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    Working past 7pm on the excavation on a Saturday! I hope this project gets built at a nice speed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swillv8 View Post
    Working past 7pm on the excavation on a Saturday! I hope this project gets built at a nice speed!
    Yeah I was impressed to see that while driving by today!!

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    If this is the same company that is "building" Station Pointe, I'm not going to see these built in my life time.
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    Multiple developers are involved there.
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    ^ Ok then it might see light of day before the Valley line LRT then. Is there a timeline of sorts here?
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    For Corner 1? It is u/c.
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    ^I am still confused about it not coming back to EDC, if it is indeed U/C.

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    ^u/c in terms of F&F...
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    Still under construction though. Just no completion time line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Channing View Post
    ^I am still confused about it not coming back to EDC, if it is indeed U/C.
    It needs a major major facelift. Cheap doesn't have to be sooooo ugly.

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    This is UGLY...

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    In comparison to the dilaptated homes used by drug crows, protistutes, and topped up with the gravel lots? Take your pick...

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    ^ Vacant lot... This can and should be better designed.
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    Wow! No wonder those who own land here don't attempt anything and leave it as gravel lots.

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    It's meh. Nothing special. Not horrible though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Wow! No wonder those who own land here don't attempt anything and leave it as gravel lots.
    Yeah, a few message board critics are the reason.

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    It's going to end up looking like a taller wider version of the Omega.

    If they make sure that the north side of the building isn't a giant blank stucco wall, I am okay with it
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    ^hahaha, you are right, it will. Our north wall is great for window washers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonicboom View Post
    This is currently what they are selling on their website....
    "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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