Not on C2E that is for sure...Originally Posted by Rocket252
Not on C2E that is for sure...
"Integra Air’s new daily service to Edmonton took flight Friday with an official ceremony at Medicine Hat airport.
The first scheduled flight will depart Medicine Hat on Monday, Sept. 5 at 6:45 a.m.
“We are very pleased with the pre-sales, there has been significant interest,” said John Macek, accountable executive Integra Air. “We look forward to a long and prosperous route.”
http://medicinehatnews.com/news/loca...s-to-edmonton/
Fantastic. I have long hoped we'd get this.
Great timing with a the first major step for the Downtown renaissance opening the same month, and Medicine Hat is a beautiful city and gateway to the fascinating Cypress Hills. I hope ties between our two centres can strengthen.
Let's make Edmonton better.
Twice daily. Integra don't have a base in Edmonton but do in Lethbridge, Medicine Hat and their home Calgary. I am guessing that serving Edmonton is more important than their other routes: YYC to Bonnyville / Edson and Cranbrook. I wish they would give us a YEG-Cranbrook flight or better yet Nelson.
Cranbrook they tried, Edson and Bonnyville each at less than 200km I think are too close and too small. They can't operate very cheap with so few seats, so they need to have a huge time saving linking larger centres like with Lethbridge and MH (over 400km.)
If they want my input, I'd say look at Princes George and Albert.
Let's make Edmonton better.
WJ does not serve Medicine Hat or Lethbridge at all. AC does using Air Georgian twice daily from Medicine Hat and three times daily from Lethbridge to YYC with a Beechcraft 1900D.(http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/beh-1900d.html). Likely one of those flights from Medicine Hat into YYC may be at risk as AC will lose those passengers previously connecting in YYC going on to Edmonton using Integra. Makes me happy to see the non-stops.
As to Cranbrook - the FB page for Integra recently stated they are still flying but with reduced frequency from 5 to 3 days a week.
According to LO 044 on skyscraper.
On a side note for YEG since BA doesn't fly here but an interesting story regarding BA and WS and the end to their codesharing.
British Airways in October 2016 is ending codeshare partnership with WestJet, with last codeshare flight scheduled on 15OCT16. British Airways’ BA code is currently placed on 16 domestic Canada service by the latter, including the following:
British Airways operated by WestJet
Calgary – Edmonton
Calgary – Kelowna
Calgary – Regina
Calgary – Saskatoon
Calgary – Victoria
Calgary – Winnipeg
Toronto – Edmonton
Toronto – Halifax
Toronto – Kelowna
Toronto – Ottawa
Toronto – Quebec City
Toronto – Regina
Toronto – Saskatoon
Toronto – Winnipeg
Vancouver – Edmonton
Vancouver – Kelowna
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...-mid-oct-2016/
http://www.straight.com/life/766976/...nt-mid-october
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
^ I think we're seeing the same thing there.
Let's make Edmonton better.
I wonder if this was initiated by Westjet as there is little point in competing with their own London service.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
Likely due to Westjet's service, regardless who initiated.
BA's service to YYC weakened, competitive environment in YYC getting harder. What's a BOAC to do?
Let's make Edmonton better.
From the Globe and Mail
Article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle31964595/China is now the third largest source of foreign tourists in Canada, after the United States and Britain. Chinese tourism to Canada has been accelerating since a 2010 agreement that gave Canada “approved destination status.” That allowed direct-to-consumer tourism advertising and permitted Chinese group visits.
There are now non-stop flights from several Chinese cities to Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto and Montreal. More flights – from more cities – are expected to be added after a recent agreement that will let Canada open seven new visa application centres in China, in addition to the five already there. The new centres will make it easier for people in secondary cities to do the paperwork in preparation for a visit to Canada.
I do hope EIA is being proactive on this file.
Hope I am wrong but I interpreted the "from more cities" was in reference to Chinese cities.
I think that means more cities in China, but yes, I do hope EIA is being proactive.
I am quite certain they are being proactive.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
Some good news from KLM for Edmonton regarding summer 2017
Amsterdam – Edmonton Increase from 4 to 6 weekly with A330-200 (Day x357) and -300 (Day 57)
Thanks KLM
Great. Icelandair daily and KLM 6x weekly.
Something is not right. 357 and 57 is only five times a week with two flights on 57.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
x means excluding.Something is not right. 357 and 57 is only five times a week with two flights on 57.
Day 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 it will operate.
Thanks.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
Awesome. This is what we really look like to non-Star/Westjet airlines.
Let's make Edmonton better.
Looks like the run will be 4x weekly.
It was all a scheduling error. Staying at 4 weekly.
Where there smoke there is fire.
CANADA 13h ago Transport Minister Marc Garneau expects 'fares to go down' with new airline ownership
MONTREAL - Canada will lift the limit for foreign investment in Canadian airlines to 49 per cent from 25 per cent to try to boost competition and cut fares, Transport Minister Marc Garneau said on Thursday.
Garneau said that although the new rules had not yet taken effect, he would allow two smaller airlines, Canada Jetlines and Enerjet, to seek additional foreign investment immediately.
http://www.bnn.ca/transport-minister-marc-garneau-expects-fares-to-go-down-with-new-airline-ownership-rules-1.599188
Last edited by Glenco; 03-11-2016 at 10:45 PM.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
^ Yessssss!!!
This is what makes a "3rd National Airline" much much much more likely (one for each major worldwide alliance.)
Which in turn makes a "3rd Western Canadian Hub City" possible.
i.e., Vancouver + Calgary + ????????
Fill in the blank.
Let's make Edmonton better.
YWG ?
Jetlines is YVR based. Enerjet is YYC based.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
^ true, but wherever their head office is (today), YVR only makes sense as a trans-ocean gateway, not as an inland hub, and something would give in YYC.
There's just too much lying on the table at YEG.
Let's make Edmonton better.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Jetlines
Founded 2013 Hubs
- Vancouver International Airport
- John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport
- Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport
Focus cities
Company slogan Flying Your Way Headquarters Vancouver, British Columbia Key people Jim Scott (President & CEO, Founder) Website
Last edited by Glenco; 04-11-2016 at 11:30 PM.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
^ I know it's listed as a hub, but it can't be a model "inland hub" because there is very little balance between destinations to the North and South or between the East and West. As a "hub" they're more going to rely on Vancouver's own origin and destination traffic, not as much people changing planes.
Let's make Edmonton better.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Jetlines
Founded 2013 Hubs
- Vancouver International Airport
- John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport
- Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport
Focus cities
Company slogan Flying Your Way Headquarters Vancouver, British Columbia Key people Jim Scott (President & CEO, Founder) Website
Wikipedia is authored by avgeeks who love to consider which airports are 'hubs' etc. Operations have yet to start. Let's see where they fly when they do, if they do.
Interesting.
Unspoken concerns maybe?
Or just being PC?
Air Canada swiftly reverses poppy stand after outcry from staff, union
Vice-president apologizes for memo ordering flight attendants not to wear Remembrance Day symbol
By Stu Mills, CBC News Posted: Nov 07, 2016
"Air Canada has reversed an edict advising flight attendants against wearing poppies on their uniforms, hours after a company vice-president issued it.
On Monday morning Renée Smith-Valade, vice-president of in-flight service for Air Canada, informed all employees the company had "chosen to show our deep respect and honour for our veterans with an onboard announcement on all flights worldwide."
However Smith-Valade's note went on to say Air Canada "strongly encourage(d) anyone who wants to wear a poppy to observe and respect Remembrance Day to do so when not in uniform."
..."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...-day-1.3839879
Air Canada apologizes to flight attendants for banning poppies
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/new...service=mobile
I guarantee neither the flip or the flop is going to win me back.
Seriously, what, if any single thing at all, are they thinking?
Let's make Edmonton better.
Douchebag airline.
Make the RIGHT choice before you take your last breath......
Just a poor decision made by some bureaucrat. They made the right decision in the end.
www.decl.org
Edmonton-Hamilton, 4x a week (starting January 16 - October 28, 2017)
https://www.westjet.com/guest/en/dea...161114:twitter
Sounds like they are going after Newleaf.
My antidepressent drug of choice is running. Cheaper with less side effects!
No mention of Moncton, then. I was hoping Flair might plug the winter gap in WJ's summer only 'via-Hamilton' service to YQM so that we could avoid having to change planes somewhere. Maybe when oil picks up again.
Nisi Dominus Frustra
I think you're right, but was just thinking it would be nice if they'd go after the market (which would take them to the same place...)
Let's make Edmonton better.
NewLeaf will be operating Edmonton to Phoenix-Mesa January 21 to April 29 (Saturdays only).
YEG 9:30 - 11:45 AZA
AZA 13:00 - 17:30 YEG
Last edited by TheGreatestX; 16-11-2016 at 10:36 AM.
Fun to have a real LCC around.
Let's make Edmonton better.
Wow.
WestJet has announced they will also operate to Phoenix-Mesa on Saturdays, effective the exact same day.
Of course they did. Why not the competition? The only reason for this flight is that Newleaf jumped to the table ahead of them.
Make the RIGHT choice before you take your last breath......
^ yup. No kidding.
Let's make Edmonton better.
This from Policy Wonk on SSP.
A foreign MRO is contemplating a facility at YEG for 767 and 777 heavy maintenance, cargo conversions and scrapping.
This from Tuffey on SSP
Hearing KLM will indeed be bumping up YEG frequencies for summer 2017, should show up in the S17 schedules due out in the next couple of months.
There will be no "scheduling errors".
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
Awesome, I love, love, love their business class deals.
I have nothing else to ask of trans-atlantic. London and Warsaw non-stop would be nice, but what we've got is helping us (greatly), not hurting us. The only other category I'd say that about is low-cost (thanks 100% to NewLeaf.)
Let's make Edmonton better.
We have non-stop to London...
^ I don't count seasonal flights, generally.
Let's make Edmonton better.
I guess we don't have flights to Phoenix either
Look, I know, I know, but you can't seriously think that our local businesses wouldn't distinguish between seasonal and year-round.
I guess we don't have flights to Phoenix either
Seasonal/charter service is a mark of tourism.
Year-round is a mark of business. Huge difference.
Let's make Edmonton better.
3 big birds:
https://twitter.com/FlyEIA/status/806991974678958081
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...tional-airportMedical pot company building huge production plant at Edmonton International Airport
GORDON KENT
A medical marijuana company plans to lease 12 hectares at the Edmonton International Airport and build what it calls the world’s biggest legal pot production plant.
Aurora Cannabis Inc. is building the 75,000-square-metre Aurora Sky facility at the airport, a site it chose for low-cost power and other utilities, access to customs and opportunities for future exports of products and genetics, the company said Thursday in a news release.
The release says the land will be leased subject to conditions which it doesn’t specify,
Aurora, one of Canada’s 35 licensed pot sellers, currently runs Alberta’s only medical marijuana facility in a 5,000-square-metre building in Cremona north of Calgary.
“Aurora Sky will prepare the company to meet the rapidly growing medical demand, as well as position us for the soon to be legalized recreational market with the world’s largest and most sophisticated cannabis production facility,“ Neil Belot, Aurora’s chief brand officer, said in the release.
“Our new facility’s location at Edmonton International Airport brings clear competitive advantages, and, we believe, reaffirms the Aurora Standard as the industry benchmark for innovation, leadership, and strategic execution.”
Holee Hanna over 800,000 sq. ft. I saw that big area fenced off and had been wondering about it.
Last edited by Drumbones; 15-12-2016 at 12:43 PM.
Now let's get working on that non stop flight to Asia. SO is going to Asia in Jan/Feb and still needing to do the YVR thing, a pain in the rear.
Can someone provide a map showing the exact location? Thanks
I see five big birds. Nice to view planes line up like this.
That grown-op will definitely density that airport. It won't be long before development surround it 360.
" The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."
Interesting article about some of the issues with Calgary International Airport's new terminal and the way it connects to their domestic terminal.
"WestJet CEO Gregg Saretsky, frustrated with the new $2-billion terminal at Calgary International Airport, says passengers put off by long walking distances and inconvenient connections may soon avoid travelling through YYC altogether."
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/westj...110/story.html
The electric cart connection between terminals at YYC does seem to be a bit of an interesting choice compared to an automated link train but I haven't actually used it so I'm not sure how well it works. I also rarely fly out of YYC internationally so I probably won't use it in the near future.
Anecdotally, I have spoken with people in Northern Alberta that prefer flying through YEG instead of YYC because they prefer the airport. I don't think the issues in Calgary will be a major hindrance to their passenger growth, but terminal design and connection efficiency is certainly a factor for some people when they choose a flight and YEG would do well to market this strength. I know for me, connection efficiency and terminal amenities are significant factors why I choose to connect in Amsterdam versus Heathrow when I fly to Europe or Africa. I sometimes choose to connect in Ottawa or Montreal versus Toronto when flying to Canada's East Coast for similar reasons.
WestJet should be used to the physical fitness campaigns being imposed upon them by an airport given where the YEG flight lands in YYZ and the walk from there to the baggage claim (another story in itself) and exit....
^ In an airport that's basically AC's own little fiefdom it's hardly a surprise. However with Westjet it's a different story. Was transferring to a Moncton flight through there yesterday. Almost 15 minutes battling our way from Gate B4 (arr. from YEG) over to Gate B27 (dep. to YQM). This involved a lengthy walk, then down an escalator, approx. 400m on travelator, up another escalator, and finally another longish walk. At least with AC it's more or less across the hall. Snag is, AC are invariably more expensive than WS on that same route.
Luckily, we had an 80 minute window to transfer, but good luck if your incoming flight is late and you have to boogie across to the other building - been there, done that, not fun.
Roll on New Leaf if they can do the YEG-YQM route next summer. I'll ditch WS in a heartbeat.
Nisi Dominus Frustra
In October several of us arrived on the YEG-YYZ WestJet flight with bags and golf clubs on a flight with two junior hockey teams and all their equipment. Needless to say the tiny baggage area and special handling belt was a zoo....
Haha. It's even more fun with a stroller and using elevators instead of escalators.Better yet on the return flight if you have a rental car. Rental drop to security is 20-25 minutes.
Good article on YEG and Tom Ruth.
http://businessinedmonton.com/featur...-places-goods/
"... keeping fees low for the airlines and passengers is paramount."
I don't know if I would agree with that! At $30, our AIF is the one of the highest in Canada - higher than for YYZ and YVR.
Last edited by Taras; 04-01-2017 at 11:10 AM. Reason: Added link to AC AIF table
Met a great contact at AC the other day, looking forward to some good chats about SFO, ORD and other key transborder flights that go unserved.
I'll beleive it when I see it.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
So will I, but nice to have a direct contact to chat about the challenges that our business and travel community are facing.
^ good luck. Good attitude. Don't listen to us. If they get better, it's better.
We need JFK, SFO, ORD, and LHR back. Even I wouldn't ask trans-Pacific of them.
Meanwhile, there's some kind of rumour on SSP that Westjet will be cutting the Edmonton-Gatwick service this summer to only 2 months.
Didn't read the source article, only that it "might not be final."
2 months. I suppose that's partly inability to compete against Icelandair, as well as "the obvious."
Let's make Edmonton better.
Already discussed on here.
http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/showt...l=1#post806337
Thanks.
Let's make Edmonton better.
WestJet will operate 7 times daily service to Kelowna this summer (Calgary to Kelowna is 6 times daily).
WestJet will also increase Las Vegas from 9 weekly to 10 weekly and use larger aircraft.
NewLeaf nearly doubles flights at Edmonton International Airport
http://globalnews.ca/news/3222876/di...ional-airport/
Routes include an Edmonton-to-Halifax flight five times a week for as low as $39. That service will be available starting in June and through to September. A search Friday revealed a return flight (with stops) to Edmonton-Halifax-Edmonton in July would cost $
flights between Abbotsford and Edmonton five times a week and between Hamilton and Edmonton five times a week for as low as $19. A search Friday found a return flight (non-stop) to Edmonton-Abbotsford-Edmonton in July would cost $124.
Last edited by Glenco; 02-02-2017 at 11:18 PM.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
So from that graphic:
- Abbotsford -- 20 departures, 3 destinations
- Edmonton -- 18 departures, 4 destinations
- Halifax -- 10 departures, 2 destinations
- Hamilton -- 21 departures, 4 destinations
- Winnipeg -- 17 departures, 3 destinations
So we're tied with Hamilton (Toronto) for destinations, but just behind Hamilton (Toronto) and Abbotsford (Vancouver) for departures/arrivals.
Far and away the most respect any domestic airline gives us, I suppose.
Let's make Edmonton better.
We'll be trying out newleaf in June to Abbotsford. $440 for 3 and an infant. I guess it's law that carseats and strollers fly free.
^ I've heard mixed reviews to be honest, but looking forward to your review.
Let's make Edmonton better.
I lot more sensible schedule than before concentrating on their most logical city pairs. Should work.
One of the problems for Edmonton is that throughout the last 30 years one of the national carriers has always been based out of Calgary, so that does tend to tilt Alberta service in a certain direction. Although to give some credit to Westjet, it has been better than others - however by the time it arrived, the pattern was already well established. Although it still a mystery to me why Air Canada's service here is so pathetic.
This is a good way to try to connect a number of sizable and possibly under served markets and avoid the busier hubs - who really wants to schlep through huge Pearson with luggage and fight Toronto traffic if you are going to Hamilton, St. Catherines, Kitchener or London.
It might be the only way for Edmonton to get better service is if the existing duopoly is disrupted.
In flew YEG to YWG and found no issues at all. Very friendly service. To keep cost low, I packed one small carry on enough to put under my seat. And one checked. Flight was on time and the luggage was out on the carousel in 10 minutes. I saved a whopping $800 bucks over Westjet. AC wasn't ever an option.
Make the RIGHT choice before you take your last breath......
Great to hear that.
Excellent points. Completely agreed.One of the problems for Edmonton is that throughout the last 30 years one of the national carriers has always been based out of Calgary, so that does tend to tilt Alberta service in a certain direction. Although to give some credit to Westjet, it has been better than others - however by the time it arrived, the pattern was already well established. Although it still a mystery to me why Air Canada's service here is so pathetic.
This is a good way to try to connect a number of sizable and possibly under served markets and avoid the busier hubs - who really wants to schlep through huge Pearson with luggage and fight Toronto traffic if you are going to Hamilton, St. Catherines, Kitchener or London.
It might be the only way for Edmonton to get better service is if the existing duopoly is disrupted.
Let's make Edmonton better.
I'm flying in March with two toddlers and their website says free car seats for them too! So not just infants.We'll be trying out newleaf in June to Abbotsford. $440 for 3 and an infant. I guess it's law that carseats and strollers fly free.
New Air Canada livery. Me likey.
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...-livery.html#/
www.decl.org
Not bad.
Came across this today while walking in the Quarters. I miss those free chocolate bars and real silverware.
https://twitter.com/IanOyeg
And the filet mignon.
i was at NAIT a month or two ago and I saw Max and his wife. They were given a vip tour.
Last edited by Glenco; 12-02-2017 at 09:12 PM.
“Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan
Still say we should rename EIA to Max Ward International
^ still agree.
Let's make Edmonton better.
Still disagree.
But everyone would say they are flying into Edmonton Max. Last place I wanna be is the Edmonton Max. Good idea tho actually.
Given that this is Edmonton, I'm sure they'll opt for some glory day Oilers instead. Dave Semenko International Airport, anyone?
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
KISS.
I'd prefer: GreatSky Airport.
And of course, you go to where the plane is going.
And if you're coming to Edmonton, remember, all the great scorers came from here.
Last edited by KC; 13-02-2017 at 08:09 PM.
Will there ever be a day where the WHITE can be reduced. A grade school child would have done better. Bland and unimaginative.
Make the RIGHT choice before you take your last breath......
^I like the touch of black underside and on the engines. But ya a whole plane colour scheme would have been amazing. It's just cost I'm assuming.
www.decl.org
^Its ok. I really like American Airlines no paint, polished approach. Lowers the weight of the aircraft as well (more than 400 pounds on a 777), although offset by cost of polishing.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aer...xt.html#table1
Summary
Though the weight of paint adds to fuel consumption, the fuel-cost savings offered by polished surfaces is outweighed by the cost of maintaining the polished surfaces. However, because this difference is a very small percentage of operating cost, many operators decide to paint or polish their airplanes based on marketing and environmental impact considerations. Some believe that a distinctive image can best be achieved with a full paint scheme, while others believe the image can be projected best by mostly polished surfaces. The availability of safe solvents and facilities that comply with environmental laws can also play a role in the choice between painting and polishing.
Last edited by moahunter; 14-02-2017 at 10:13 AM.
It's to reflect as much heat as possible, obviously reducing cooling load and thus fuel.Will there ever be a day where the WHITE can be reduced. A grade school child would have done better. Bland and unimaginative.
Let's make Edmonton better.
I love the sneaky paint around the cockpit. Looks almost like zoro or the hamburgler.
WestJet continues to increase service out of Edmonton:
Abbotsford increase from 13 to 21 weekly
Winnipeg increase from 21 to 24 weekly
416 total weekly this flights this summer, up from 389 last summer.
Prodded by New Leaf?
Nisi Dominus Frustra
Nice to see some of you tonight and meet some others for the first time at YEG.
FBO is down around 50% from its peak or about 500k, ouch.
Reinforced the importance of ORD and SFO to our market, business development and travel.
747 door to door was 48mins as I lucked out with the LRT connection. Love that service for $8.25.
Last edited by IanO; 21-02-2017 at 08:51 PM.
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