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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    Yeah time well tell. This project was a joke from concept to completion so I have little to no hope it will ever operate as it was supposed to.

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    A gondola system for the 3.3 km length could have been built for 1/10th the cost with a similar speed, no waiting time and no traffic disruption and little infrastructure changes.

    The COE is more interested in mega transit projects that protects the ETS transit union monopoly rather than providing better transit.

    The lack of support for the current gondola proposal is proof of that
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    At least the Province is commited to spending $1.4B on the WLRT and $130M expansion of the Metro Line to Blatchford.

    http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/showt...ruction/page88

    Calgary still gets more msi dollars then we do. Just to get the bridge over the rail yards is going to cost ~ $600M.
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    Calgary gets more because they have a larger population. If you add in St. Albert, Sherwood Park and the rest and then look at it per capita, it's going to be pretty close.

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    all the more reason to annex

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    I think it would be nice to see the outlying municipalities invest more in transit, possibly in projects in alignment with the regional transit plan.
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    I’m sure surrounding communities with their same evening and next day snow clearing, pot hole free smooth streets, dandelion free nicely trimmed parks and boulevards, industrial tax bases and a multitude of other pluses are dying to be part of the city of Edmonton and all their problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I’m sure surrounding communities with their same evening and next day snow clearing, pot hole free smooth streets, dandelion free nicely trimmed parks and boulevards, industrial tax bases and a multitude of other pluses are dying to be part of the city of Edmonton and all their problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Calgary gets more because they have a larger population. If you add in St. Albert, Sherwood Park and the rest and then look at it per capita, it's going to be pretty close.
    this is funding only for the two big charter cities. edmonton gets less than calgary because it seems to have been done on a per capita formula. st. albert, sherwood park and the rest get nothing so on a per capita basis for the region, it's even less close, not more. when you factor in the expenses that edmonton incurs on behalf of the region overall, it's probably even less fair. at the end of the day however, it probably wasn't intended to be as fair as it was intended to give both municipalities the ability to impose more taxes and fees and to take on more of what used to be provincial and federal responsibilities. at the end of the day, this is more downloading by the province than it is financial certainty for the two cities or their taxpayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnr67 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I’m sure surrounding communities with their same evening and next day snow clearing, pot hole free smooth streets, dandelion free nicely trimmed parks and boulevards, industrial tax bases and a multitude of other pluses are dying to be part of the city of Edmonton and all their problems.

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    You mean all those free loading parasites.
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    This is why the the regional transit board is needed: to give a larger voice commiserate with the actual transit using population (distribution). This is particularly relevant for the Metro line as it's suposed to extend to St Albert in the future. That segment will cost a cool billion clams; using the current 40-40-20 split, I doubt they could pony up the required amount. It will be a regional effort to get that built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolworm View Post
    This is why the the regional transit board is needed: to give a larger voice commiserate with the actual transit using population (distribution). This is particularly relevant for the Metro line as it's suposed to extend to St Albert in the future. That segment will cost a cool billion clams; using the current 40-40-20 split, I doubt they could pony up the required amount. It will be a regional effort to get that built.
    Well said. It is going to be a hard sell to tell the people in Sherwood Park their portion of the regional funding is going to building LRT to St. Albert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnr67 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I’m sure surrounding communities with their same evening and next day snow clearing, pot hole free smooth streets, dandelion free nicely trimmed parks and boulevards, industrial tax bases and a multitude of other pluses are dying to be part of the city of Edmonton and all their problems.

    Precisely correct.
    You mean all those free loading parasites.
    You mean the hundreds of COE staff including bus drivers, police and transportation managers who live outside of Edmonton?
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    Yes, this round of funding is only for the big cities but it's not as if the transit systems in the region get $0. And there's a lot more regional transit around Edmonton. Lump all the transit funding together and it's a clearer picture of transit funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I’m sure surrounding communities with their same evening and next day snow clearing, pot hole free smooth streets, dandelion free nicely trimmed parks and boulevards, industrial tax bases and a multitude of other pluses are dying to be part of the city of Edmonton and all their problems.
    you spelt leeches wrong.

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    Back on topic: https://globalnews.ca/news/4727287/e...alling-system/

    We'll see how this goes, hopefully testing won't take too long and the City can either accept Thales' solution or move on. It's dragged on long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolworm View Post
    Back on topic: https://globalnews.ca/news/4727287/e...alling-system/

    We'll see how this goes, hopefully testing won't take too long and the City can either accept Thales' solution or move on. It's dragged on long enough.
    It will be another year or two until they accept or reject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolworm View Post
    Back on topic: https://globalnews.ca/news/4727287/e...alling-system/

    We'll see how this goes, hopefully testing won't take too long and the City can either accept Thales' solution or move on. It's dragged on long enough.
    It will be another year or two until they accept or reject.
    And they also said they have a back-up plan for signals if this Thales fix doesn't work...but it won't make things any better. In fact, they said it may make it worse.

    Might as well just stay with what they have if that's the case.

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    I’m cynical that the city will probably find something wrong with the signalling over something trivial (“but nobody told me that you had to stop at a railway crossing”). Then they’ll get some local contractor to louse it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmontonsKindaGuy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
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    Back on topic: https://globalnews.ca/news/4727287/e...alling-system/

    We'll see how this goes, hopefully testing won't take too long and the City can either accept Thales' solution or move on. It's dragged on long enough.
    It will be another year or two until they accept or reject.
    And they also said they have a back-up plan for signals if this Thales fix doesn't work...but it won't make things any better. In fact, they said it may make it worse.

    Might as well just stay with what they have if that's the case.
    Source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EdmontonsKindaGuy View Post
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    Back on topic: https://globalnews.ca/news/4727287/e...alling-system/

    We'll see how this goes, hopefully testing won't take too long and the City can either accept Thales' solution or move on. It's dragged on long enough.
    It will be another year or two until they accept or reject.
    And they also said they have a back-up plan for signals if this Thales fix doesn't work...but it won't make things any better. In fact, they said it may make it worse.

    Might as well just stay with what they have if that's the case.
    Source?
    Don’t have it handy but I thought I heard it on the news. Maybe I heard wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmontonsKindaGuy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EdmontonsKindaGuy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolworm View Post
    Back on topic: https://globalnews.ca/news/4727287/e...alling-system/

    We'll see how this goes, hopefully testing won't take too long and the City can either accept Thales' solution or move on. It's dragged on long enough.
    It will be another year or two until they accept or reject.
    And they also said they have a back-up plan for signals if this Thales fix doesn't work...but it won't make things any better. In fact, they said it may make it worse.

    Might as well just stay with what they have if that's the case.
    Source?
    Don’t have it handy but I thought I heard it on the news. Maybe I heard wrong...
    Definitely, there’s no way the operators would be signing off on these stress tests if there was any suspicion that the signally was going to be worse than terrible.

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    What would happen if this new round of testing doesn't work out? What can we learn from this?
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    To hire better engineers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    What would happen if this new round of testing doesn't work out? What can we learn from this?
    This is just my assumption so take it with a grain of salt, but likely the city would consider the contract breached and investigate options that include overhauling the entire signalling system of the capital and metro lines. The city also would have a strong case in court against the contractor so expect years of taxpayer dollars going towards that battle.
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