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    We still don't know if signature 3 reneged on all the contracts or simply renting out their unsold units.

    For what it's worth, Langham rents out their unsold units in the Foxes.

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    And Regency's Link project has gone back and forth between rentals and condos at least a couple times, with them currently trying to lease it out while looking to sell the whole building.

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    Rentals, condos who really gives two flying f*cks what the tenure is, as long as the building looks good, is occupied with people and activates the street I'm good to go.

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    Whats wrong with rentals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    Whats wrong with rentals?
    Rightly or wrongly, residents with mortgages see renters as not being as vested in maintaining the building as owners.

    I go back and forth on this as there can be bad owners too. But, my experience is that loud, late night partying, throwing cigarettes out the window, vomiting in stairwells, etc ... does seem to weigh more to renters.

    Or to be fair, their party-hearty friends.
    ... gobsmacked

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwill211 View Post
    if they turn encore into rentals last minute like their other project will people still think it's not a big deal???
    I don't want to tell you what to do, but it is best to let go of resentments toward them. Rentals or no rentals, how does that affect or bother anyone here; as well, what business is it of your, mine, or anyone else's? if it is the direct parties involved that is also their business and not ours. stop that game of yours!
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    This is a discussion forum. Discussing other people's business is kinda fundamental...
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    in this case, it will most likely be mature renters as I can't see rift rafts renting the high prices. Gatherings would most likely be dinner parties with wine consumed responsibly etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    This is a discussion forum. Discussing other people's business is kinda fundamental...
    to some degree, yes. However, the individual that I quoted has a huge issue with Westrich regardless of site(s) stemming from the Signature 1& 2's development. How would the concept of rental be any different than your own aspiration- which you stated you owned a few condos which you rented out side from your own living domain; what business do people have in criticizing you for that? I'm in the same boat as I have multiple properties here and abroad. As long as I follow regulations, have responsible tenants , and respect with compromise to the neighbors, it is my business.
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    ******* rights Chris! Look and variety is the key!

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    Considering the price of units in this building, I think it would be pretty safe to say that renters or condo owners would be most likely ok, and the possible riff raff so to speak probably couldn't afford to move in. Now if they were to say the would turn this building into a halfway house, or subsidized units, low income units, than yeah maybe there could be issues, but I think we wont see that happening anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11
    I think it would be pretty safe to say that renters or condo owners would be most likely ok, and the possible riff raff so to speak probably couldn't afford to move in.


    In general terms I don't have a problem with renters in a condo building, but I can speak from experience that in Phillips Lofts the high rents have not been nearly as much of a deterrent for dead beats and crappy neighbors as you'd think. The good news is that bad renters are easier for the board/association to get rid of as compared to suite owners, but I know our board in a building with somewhere around 10-15 rented units has had to deal with a problem renter every year or two. We're talking one of the losers literally having their dog relieve itself on the fake plants in the lobby on a regular basis. How someone like that could afford ~2k/month rent, I have no idea.

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    Roommates often subsidize each other and you end up with a mix of renters.

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    You can only play that play so many times before people become weary of placing deposits on a preconstruction project. One I can understand if it isn’t selling well, however it is another case to me if a building sold out and they pulled the rug from under their clients because they saw dollar signs.

    I know I would second guess investing with a developer if they developed a track record like that. So I’m sure they wouldn’t unless some unforeseen circumstances arose.

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    Does anyone know how much % of units they sold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11
    I think it would be pretty safe to say that renters or condo owners would be most likely ok, and the possible riff raff so to speak probably couldn't afford to move in.


    In general terms I don't have a problem with renters in a condo building, but I can speak from experience that in Phillips Lofts the high rents have not been nearly as much of a deterrent for dead beats and crappy neighbors as you'd think. The good news is that bad renters are easier for the board/association to get rid of as compared to suite owners, but I know our board in a building with somewhere around 10-15 rented units has had to deal with a problem renter every year or two. We're talking one of the losers literally having their dog relieve itself on the fake plants in the lobby on a regular basis. How someone like that could afford ~2k/month rent, I have no idea.
    I agree with that comment hence why my properties in which i rent out are keyless entrees to prevent them from locking me out if they are evicted where I have the master control; I also ensure proper tennants with clauses in the contract strictly stay I g the number of people living there. As proper landlords, t hat is our responsibility. Condo owners can be problematic too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Yeah, they're a month or two away from pouring the main floor.
    Encore rebar above grade! 19 days from the post above and not far away from a pour.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11
    I think it would be pretty safe to say that renters or condo owners would be most likely ok, and the possible riff raff so to speak probably couldn't afford to move in.


    In general terms I don't have a problem with renters in a condo building, but I can speak from experience that in Phillips Lofts the high rents have not been nearly as much of a deterrent for dead beats and crappy neighbors as you'd think. The good news is that bad renters are easier for the board/association to get rid of as compared to suite owners, but I know our board in a building with somewhere around 10-15 rented units has had to deal with a problem renter every year or two. We're talking one of the losers literally having their dog relieve itself on the fake plants in the lobby on a regular basis. How someone like that could afford ~2k/month rent, I have no idea.
    I agree with that comment hence why my properties in which i rent out are keyless entrees to prevent them from locking me out if they are evicted where I have the master control; I also ensure proper tennants with clauses in the contract strictly stay I g the number of people living there. As proper landlords, t hat is our responsibility. Condo owners can be problematic too.
    People are weird. Somebody in the Mayfair was tossing dog turds off their balcony and it was landing on the overhangs and side windows below. Pretty sure you can still see it on the Capital Blvd side still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
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    I think it would be pretty safe to say that renters or condo owners would be most likely ok, and the possible riff raff so to speak probably couldn't afford to move in.


    In general terms I don't have a problem with renters in a condo building, but I can speak from experience that in Phillips Lofts the high rents have not been nearly as much of a deterrent for dead beats and crappy neighbors as you'd think. The good news is that bad renters are easier for the board/association to get rid of as compared to suite owners, but I know our board in a building with somewhere around 10-15 rented units has had to deal with a problem renter every year or two. We're talking one of the losers literally having their dog relieve itself on the fake plants in the lobby on a regular basis. How someone like that could afford ~2k/month rent, I have no idea.
    I agree with that comment hence why my properties in which i rent out are keyless entrees to prevent them from locking me out if they are evicted where I have the master control; I also ensure proper tennants with clauses in the contract strictly stay I g the number of people living there. As proper landlords, t hat is our responsibility. Condo owners can be problematic too.
    People are weird. Somebody in the Mayfair was tossing dog turds off their balcony and it was landing on the overhangs and side windows below. Pretty sure you can still see it on the Capital Blvd side still.
    Evict pronto.

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    thanx Ian !

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    By the time, reeebar, forms, and the pour that should be about 5 days in total, so it is pretty close to a month. He didn't state it will be a month but close to a month.
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    My point wasn't to correct him or anyone, just to update it and remind people how quickly this is rising.
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    Yup, they're definitely going at a good clip.

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    It is going at a pace it should be. Had this been Ultima site, i doubt it would have been as fast just because of restraints to access/egress. That said, she is ready for cruise control right away. I cant wait to see it change our skyline. I'm so glad the former project didnt go through.
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    ^mostly due to the concrete forming/pouring guys...
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    Apparently pre-construction prices are ending, they are increasing prices shortly on remaining units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    It is going at a pace it should be. Had this been Ultima site, i doubt it would have been as fast just because of restraints to access/egress. That said, she is ready for cruise control right away. I cant wait to see it change our skyline. I'm so glad the former project didnt go through.
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    Westrich is still the GC/CM, but yes, Pagnotta is doing the concrete. I don't recall who did the concrete on Ultima.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Westrich is still the GC/CM, but yes, Pagnotta is doing the concrete. I don't recall who did the concrete on Ultima.
    Thanks for that tidbit Marcel!

    ^
    I would agree to certain extent Chris, but there are a lot more factors to expedition than just a good GC. Economic condition at time of construction... When the economy is at high level of robust, there are more developments, so talent will be stretch thin vs less robust times and talent is exponentially more. Staging grounds which Ultima had limit space vs Encore. Also, the ability of of a company to retain talent. Right now, construction in carpentry is not as abundant as during the oil boom, so retention is a lot easier. These are just some of the factors. There is no one reason for better or fast construction. This applies to all trades.
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    Wow, Westrich is going to rocket this thing up. I am calling roof top in 15 months!

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    Apparently 72 Percent of Encore units are sold according to email I got from Westrich.

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    ^Thanx Ian !

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    hope it goes up quickly ! sure looks like it will. yes thanks for the updates Ian !

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    Working on the second floor.


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    Thank you for all your quality photos, Chris. Miss your updates.

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    Thanks! I'll try to get out more often. I've just become a little more lazy :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvazquez7 View Post
    Thanks! I'll try to get out more often. I've just become a little more lazy :P
    Hey don't feel bad. I've gotten super lazy and have done sooo little this past year or so. It doesn't help when quality photographers like you also do updates my motivation to go out and shoot becomes tiny, lol.
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    And it begins... First signs of life of the Encore from my POV.

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    ^ should be a good POV ! please keep up the progress pics...

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    Encore rising


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    June 3, 2018 (from 30th floor of Stantec Tower):
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    June 3, 2018 (from 30th floor of Stantec Tower):
    IMG_1562 by Adam Zepp, on Flickr
    Interesting to see how the towers on 103 and 104 are all on the west side of the street.

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    Go west young man, go west.

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    It is on the west side because that is where the land was available except ID zone. On 106st, it will be primarily east.
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    Great shots, I really like 103/104 street from that angle.
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    Amazing what 2001 would have looked like from this vantage point.
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    ^ repost the same picture (already in the thread twice) with no additional comment ?

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    ^ yea it was already posted....pretty sure that wasn't westrich's photo either..unless Adam works for them?




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    This is going to fill such a crucial gap in the skyline while adding a lot more life to both 104 st and 103 st.

    CCM sticks out like a sore thumb more and more as the area around it modernizes and improves. The side of CCM with the Bay could REALLY use an exterior refresh to modernize it, and open it up more to street level interactions.

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    Westrich is really taking liberties with 102 ave. First they block off the sidewalk, then the bikelane, now they gobbled up a traffic lane. With Ice district doing the same on 103 and 104 ave, it's getting ridiculous trying to head east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolo View Post
    Westrich is really taking liberties with 102 ave. First they block off the sidewalk, then the bikelane, now they gobbled up a traffic lane. With Ice district doing the same on 103 and 104 ave, it's getting ridiculous trying to head east.
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    Westrich is really taking liberties with 102 ave. First they block off the sidewalk, then the bikelane, now they gobbled up a traffic lane. With Ice district doing the same on 103 and 104 ave, it's getting ridiculous trying to head east.
    How are they "taking liberties with 102 ave"? I thought developers have to get permit and pay for each square foot of space they take up from the city?

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    ambleside has been without a sidewalk for 4+ years at the moment due to their construction.

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    yeah. have to agree with the antiquated construction practices vis-a-vis sidewalks are lanes. I travel to NYC constantly and you never see sidewalk or lane closures; and there's a lot more construction in Manhattan than here. any work that needs to close down a lane happens in the wee hours of the morning.
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    George did it up right with Mayfair on jasper, that’s how they all should be done.

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    Thought Council was to address it...but I guess 'temporary' closures don't count? Then again Council can't raise much of a stink when their poster boy at ICE District has 3 blocks closed off for 3 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    George did it up right with Mayfair on jasper, that’s how they all should be done.
    That was very well done and people friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeN View Post
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    Westrich is really taking liberties with 102 ave. First they block off the sidewalk, then the bikelane, now they gobbled up a traffic lane. With Ice district doing the same on 103 and 104 ave, it's getting ridiculous trying to head east.
    How are they "taking liberties with 102 ave"? I thought developers have to get permit and pay for each square foot of space they take up from the city?
    I'm not sure what the specific complaint is here. The original post was worded to indicate that they have progressively "gobbled up" more of the street/sidewalk, when that's not the case at all. Day 1 they had the hoarding set up as they do now, essentially. Nothing has changed with closures in the area for the better part of a year. And overall, it's an example of how closures should be done in Edmonton. All directions of travel were preserved, pedestrian traffic was maintained, etc. What more else is expected? As someone who lives across the alley from the project, I've actually been pleasantly surprised with how they've maintained access in the area. I have more problems with Sysco trucks delivering to Bottega blocking the alley than I do with construction deliveries.

    The unfortunate reality of building in urban areas where the building takes up the entire property is that some staging area off property is going to be required.

    And it's not like the closure of 102 avenue starting at 103 street, which would make it "ridiculous trying to head east", has anything to do with Encore.

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    Kreation, I take it you're in Ultima... what floor ?

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    Encore will fill a nice gap from this angle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bird View Post
    Kreation, I take it you're in Ultima... what floor ?
    11th. I know this because I stalk him/her.

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    ^starting to go up fairly quickly now !

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    I really like how our downtown is seeing room for plenty of residential units. This one right in the heart of the core is great to see. I wonder if these new residential buildings going up can help convince a company or two to move to or move back to Edmonton and set up their HQ here.

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    Taken whilst traversing through the farmer's market this morning


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    Encore = gap filler


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    Getting close to the typical floor to then accelerate construction.
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    I wish we had a couple more like this within 2 blocks of the arena. Nothing yet announced,

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    There are not a lot of developable sites left unspoken for.

    106st-108st from 99ave-104ave will be the next big push.
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    I like to see your block gain some traction.
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    A not so old reminder of what was going to be prior to Encore:

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    This was proposed way back in 2007 and I liked it.

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    I still am of the opinion that this tower is going to be one of the real 'game changers' for Downtown when we look back in 10,20,30.


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    Hah, well played.

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    Podium essentially complete... expect the tower portion to rise at over a floor/week now.






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    3 floors every two weeks should be a reasonable expectation imo. Looking forward to see how the height will impact that area.
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    Sounds about right.
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    ..." should be a reasonable expectation imo." It is based on some factor such as having to have done such work as part of my apptenticeship. It is practically a floor for every 4.5 days. Very reasonable.
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    I must have read your 3/2 as 2/3.
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