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    Typo error... Once there all up!

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    After these towers are done, hopefully developers turn their eyes (and dollars) to the area west of 105 Street.

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    So it's confirmed that it's the old Ironwood site.
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    Received DP application notice today:

    Notification Appeal Period (Sept 4 - 17, 2012)

    10236 - 103 STREET NW (Plan NB1 Blk 3 Lot 203)
    10236 - 103 STREET NW (Plan NB1 Blk 3 Lots 201-202)

    To construct an Apartment House (199 Dwellings / 31 storeys) building with Convenience Retail on main floor.

    Variances:
    - Setback on 103 Street from 4.5m to 2.5m for portion of the facade (main residential building entrance)
    - No Tower Stepback from podium facade is proposed for a portion of the front facade (main residential building entrance)
    - Tower Floor Plate is increased from 900 sq. m. to 951 sq. m.
    - one balcony is proposed withint the first 5 storeys of the building facing 103 Street (one 5th Storey balcony)
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    thinking it's basically a carbon-copy of Ultima
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    Which is fine... I can handle twins but if they try to make it triplets I'll get angry
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    Definitely from the picture above you can see how dramatically these 3 buildings will transform the area.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    Received DP application notice today:

    Notification Appeal Period (Sept 4 - 17, 2012)

    10236 - 103 STREET NW (Plan NB1 Blk 3 Lot 203)
    10236 - 103 STREET NW (Plan NB1 Blk 3 Lots 201-202)

    To construct an Apartment House (199 Dwellings / 31 storeys) building with Convenience Retail on main floor.

    Variances:
    - Setback on 103 Street from 4.5m to 2.5m for portion of the facade (main residential building entrance)
    - No Tower Stepback from podium facade is proposed for a portion of the front facade (main residential building entrance)
    - Tower Floor Plate is increased from 900 sq. m. to 951 sq. m.
    - one balcony is proposed withint the first 5 storeys of the building facing 103 Street (one 5th Storey balcony)
    That's ultima's address, not encore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    thinking it's basically a carbon-copy of Ultima
    The way they were leading us on and the name of this tower, i think it will be different. As well, the fact that they are new, it would be wise if they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    Received DP application notice today:

    Notification Appeal Period (Sept 4 - 17, 2012)

    10236 - 103 STREET NW (Plan NB1 Blk 3 Lot 203)
    10236 - 103 STREET NW (Plan NB1 Blk 3 Lots 201-202)

    To construct an Apartment House (199 Dwellings / 31 storeys) building with Convenience Retail on main floor.

    Variances:
    - Setback on 103 Street from 4.5m to 2.5m for portion of the facade (main residential building entrance)
    - No Tower Stepback from podium facade is proposed for a portion of the front facade (main residential building entrance)
    - Tower Floor Plate is increased from 900 sq. m. to 951 sq. m.
    - one balcony is proposed withint the first 5 storeys of the building facing 103 Street (one 5th Storey balcony)
    That's ultima's address, not encore.
    Bingo.
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    ^Whoops my apologies. I did not look at the address properly.
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    Last edited by chrisvazquez7; 05-09-2012 at 03:47 AM.

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    They've added a description for the building on their website, including some new details.

    Welcome to a new level. Introducing ENCORE Condominiums by Westrich Pacific Corp, a sleek 35 story shimmering all glass luxury private residence tower. Located on the intersection of 103rd Street and 102nd Avenue at the epicenter of Edmonton's downtown. This spectacular tower is situated in the most valuable neighborhood adjacent to pedway with access to every convenience and amenity: Financial Core, Arena Entertainment District, Movie Theatre, City Centre Mall, YMCA, Royal Alberta Museum, Art Gallery, River Valley, and LRT.

    Sophisticated Design. Energy Efficiency. Technology. Brilliant Interior Finishing. Entire building floor to ceiling Glazing. A new standard in urban living defined. This is it. Welcome to Encore Condominiums.

    35 stories | 180 suites | 200 parking spaces | Architect: Dub Architects | Status: pre-construction
    Looks like it will be Pearl/Icon II height, all glass, and Dub is the architect. So no carbon-copy Ultima clone.
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    Sounds sweet!

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    (Copy from their website)

    Welcome to a new level. Introducing ENCORE Condominiums by Westrich Pacific Corp, a sleek 35 story shimmering all glass luxury private residence tower. Located on the intersection of 103rd Street and 102nd Avenue at the epicenter of Edmonton's downtown. This spectacular tower is situated in the most valuable neighborhood adjacent to pedway with access to every convenience and amenity: Financial Core, Arena Entertainment District, Movie Theatre, City Centre Mall, YMCA, Royal Alberta Museum, Art Gallery, River Valley, and LRT.

    Sophisticated Design. Energy Efficiency. Technology. Brilliant Interior Finishing. Entire building floor to ceiling Glazing. A new standard in urban living defined. This is it. Welcome to Encore Condominiums.

    35 stories | 180 suites | 200 parking spaces | Architect: Dub Architects | Status: pre-construction

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    ^ Look at the post before Hilman's. Beat you to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    Architect: Dub Architects
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    http://encoretower.com/

    Why can't WP post this link on their webpage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FANX View Post
    Entire building floor to ceiling Glazing.
    Awesome, puts a lie to certain coments by a developer at Procura. Great news, long overdue, but better late than never.

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    Yup, should be an exciting development.

    Now let's see shovels in the ground for Ultima...October, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    Architect: Dub Architects
    WOW, this is great news!
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    35 storeys of all-glass design. Does anyone think Westrich is trying to take the crown of tallest condo tower in Edmonton away from Icon II in dramatic fashion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    35 storeys of all-glass design. Does anyone think Westrich is trying to take the crown of tallest condo tower in Edmonton away from Icon II in dramatic fashion?
    Yea probably and I say go for it Westrich, go for it and don't look back
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    Though they have yet to prove themselves, it's at least really great to hear that they are trying to set a new standard for condos in the city.

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    ^Yes, let's all hope that they are able to follow through with what they're trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    ^Yes, let's all hope that they are able to follow through with what they're trying to do.
    Yes lets hope. But even if Encore doesn't happen, what's stopping them from adding a few storeys to Ultima and taking the tallest building crown?
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    And if all these go through, what excuse is left for some of the City Centre Mall tenants appallingly bad hours of business?

    Certainly, all added up - it also makes the case for the LRT DT Connector even more compelling.

    The project most at risk of delay I'd think would be Fox Towers.
    ... gobsmacked

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBoo View Post
    The project most at risk of delay I'd think would be Fox Towers.
    Perhaps the best location, but a substandard design finish in comparison. Good to see that Edmonton condo buyers are taking note to go with what will be a better product.

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    Fox Towers is suddenly having a pre-sales event tomorrow from 6-7pm at Icon II. I say suddenly because that's only one days notice to those who were registered. Not a lot of notice. It's one chance to get pre-sales prices but does not list the prices.

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    Panic from an impending Encore announcement?

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    Westrich Pacific has exactly 0 projects currently completed,
    now 2 [major] towers underdevelopment, numerous low and mid rise...

    Now saying they will be using Dub architects, 100% glass.


    Everything seems a little too good to be true.

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    City better not cut down 35 stories tall and if they does, I ain't too happy about it.
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    Well the only major thing I want to see is shovels in the ground for Ultima tower. Once I see that I will be much more at ease. Then I will be even more excited about Encore.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    Fox Towers is suddenly having a pre-sales event tomorrow from 6-7pm at Icon II. I say suddenly because that's only one days notice to those who were registered. Not a lot of notice. It's one chance to get pre-sales prices but does not list the prices.
    It's not suddenly Terrie Reekie sent me an email that there would be this event in early september and voila here we are, the official invite was received early on the 5th, I responded and was confirmed very quickly, they also stated that if the 6th didn't work that I could reschedule for another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    35 storeys of all-glass design. Does anyone think Westrich is trying to take the crown of tallest condo tower in Edmonton away from Icon II in dramatic fashion?
    i want someone to juuuust a little higher one day...say 40 floors or maybe 160 meters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    that movie theater is actually Empire not Cineplex

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    The theatre complex in cc mall is not empire... I think you got confuse thinking that street was Jasper...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    The theatre complex in cc mall is not empire... I think you got confuse thinking that street was Jasper...
    http://www.empiretheatres.com/theatr...ntre-9-cinemas

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    35 stories is too tall.

    They could have built seven -- seven -- five-floor buildings. Plugged seven lots.

    That's for those of you that like your space filled.

    Another obelisk in Edmonton's sky? Ho-hum.

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    Seven... Seven five floor building ah ha ha ha ha

    Six... Six six floor building ah ha ha ha ha.

    Abaka give it a rest already. You wouldn't live downtown no matter what. Youre a well known downtown hater.

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    There are many reasons why developers went tall (over 12 storeys) downtown with their developments over the past several years. It obviously makes economic sense for them to do so. And personally, if I were a developer I would prefer managing construction, marketing, and sales of one 35 storey building over doing the same for several smaller 5-7 storey buildings at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    The theatre complex in cc mall is not empire... I think you got confuse thinking that street was Jasper...
    http://www.empiretheatres.com/theatr...ntre-9-cinemas
    My bad. when did they change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    There are many reasons why developers went tall (over 12 storeys) downtown with their developments over the past several years. It obviously makes economic sense for them to do so. And personally, if I were a developer I would prefer managing construction, marketing, and sales of one 35 storey building over doing the same for several smaller 5-7 storey buildings at the same time.
    Most of us know that. Why would any one built that low on expensive downtown real estate. It is just not feasible.

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    Yep. Was more for AShetsen's benefit.
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    I knew that; just adding on to yours...

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    They have removed the reference to Ultima 2 from the company website and have replaced it with a link to Encore's site. Also, the infamous teaser video's sound appears to be fixed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AShetsen View Post
    35 stories is too tall.

    They could have built seven -- seven -- five-floor buildings. Plugged seven lots.

    That's for those of you that like your space filled.

    Another obelisk in Edmonton's sky? Ho-hum.
    Yea cause that makes so much economical sense. KenC recently used Petroleum Plaza as an example of why such an idea is uneconomical. To build those buildings, they needed to build twice the fire exits, twice the elevator shafts, twice the mechanical room, twice the venitillation systems plus whatever other systems a building needs. Same applies to building 7, 5 storey buildings over one 35 storey building.
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    That's due to commenting without processing facts and hypothesising logic.

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    Terrible map, but exciting project.

    As for ECC extending hours because of a few hundred new units? no. It needs to become a destination centre to justify that.... thousands, not hundreds.
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    Welcome back Ian.

    McBoo:

    ECC has shorter hours because it still primarily serves downtown office workers during workdays.

    Right now, they cannot compete with WEM, Kingsway, and Southgate in terms of attracting customers after work hours and on weekends. Southgate is currently problematic for them because downtown residents can take the LRT to go there, and Kingsway is very close to DT and is accesible via transit and will soon have a nearby LRT stop.

    Landing a big name US retailer entering the Canadian market would be a good start and trying to make ECC become a destination mall. Nordstroms would be a coup, but something tells me that Southgate could potentially get it.
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    One thing that Encore and other residential towers are going to do is give more and more reason for the downtown retail community to expand it's offerings and it hours due to the fact that there are more and more people living nearby.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    I noticed that there is a sign on the NE corner of the site saying Encore Condominiums Coming Soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
    I noticed that there is a sign on the NE corner of the site saying Encore Condominiums Coming Soon.
    Vinesh Pratap tweeted that there would be renderings of a new downtown condo on Global news at dinnertime. Could it be...?
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    The condo looks great, perhaps even better than the Ultima!
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    can't wait to see an image!

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    I saw a quick picture, they're bluish, covered with glass on the north and south faces. The east and west sides have three columns, with balconies, and the tallest column on the north side.
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    Great I was on BBQ detail and missed it. At least my steak was fantastic!
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    I'm just glad Dubb is finally in this market; as to why developer never considered him until now just perplexes me. Of all local design renderings, his has been the ones to salivate at.

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    Screen caps from the released images via Global News. Fletcher Kent mentioned the tower being 40 floors!










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    Renderings as shown on Global... Looks BOLD! Apologies for the quality.
    Says it will be 40 storey building, tallest residential tower in the city





    http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/vide...p=2&s=dd#video

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    Sexy.

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    i'd definitely want to live there

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    Bravo Dub, Quite an amazing design.

    40 storeys? I was not expecting that. Westrich has definitely raised the bar for condo design in Edmonton. God I hope they get this one built. Anyone wanna bet the lineup for sales for this one will be bigger than Ultima?
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    Some of the images have been squished giving the illusion that it is taller than it might actually be.
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    I love the look, but until Westrich builds Ultima and we learn about their standards, I don't know how comfortable I would feel dropping half a million dollars to live in one of their buildings. They have to prove themselves first. That being said, I own a unit at One Century Park, built by companies with great reputations and I have been disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Some of the images have been squished giving the illusion that it is taller than it might actually be.
    Counted the balconies. Unless I counted wrong, looks like 36 + 1 mechanical + 2 or 3 podium. That equals 39 or 40

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    Check width to height ratio, it varies from picture to picture.
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    Yeah I know, I'm just saying that it IS taller than we expected, even if it appears even taller because it's squished. If its 40 stories what would that approx. translate to hieght? Would it be taller than Manulife or Epcor Tower?

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    Simple and clean. Would like podium to be lighter orange to balance better with light blue glass...other than that, i love!

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    Thank you Dub

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    Like the look, just hope it gets built now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvazquez7 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Some of the images have been squished giving the illusion that it is taller than it might actually be.
    Counted the balconies. Unless I counted wrong, looks like 36 + 1 mechanical + 2 or 3 podium. That equals 39 or 40

    35 storeys + mechanical and podium.

    I snickered when I saw the Icons in the background of one of those shots. Neither them nor the Foxes are in the same league. Speaking of which, I wonder how much of their sales will be affected now that this hit the news last night...
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    40 storey residential would be around 127-130m or about what Bell Tower is. Commerce is 123m.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    Bravo Dub, Quite an amazing design.

    40 storeys? I was not expecting that. Westrich has definitely raised the bar for condo design in Edmonton. God I hope they get this one built. Anyone wanna bet the lineup for sales for this one will be bigger than Ultima?
    I bet the guys over in the Fox sales trailer are throwing things right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EscoffierLivesOn View Post
    Screen caps from the released images via Global News. Fletcher Kent mentioned the tower being 40 floors!






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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    Bravo Dub, Quite an amazing design.

    40 storeys? I was not expecting that. Westrich has definitely raised the bar for condo design in Edmonton. God I hope they get this one built. Anyone wanna bet the lineup for sales for this one will be bigger than Ultima?
    I bet the guys over in the Fox sales trailer are throwing things right now.
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    I wonder about the density, since it doesn't include the lot to the south as I had thought it would.

    The design looks promising, but we'll see what kind of variances are required.
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    HA

    the maximum Floor Area Ratio south of 102 Avenue shall be 10.0.
    the maximum Height shall not exceed 115.0 m or overlay

    Notwithstanding the requirements of subsection 910.7(4)(a), for new buildings, Residential Use Classes and Hotels shall be allowed an additional Floor Area Ratio of 4.0 where the Development Officer is satisfied that new developments fit within the urban context of the area and that adverse environmental impacts such as sun shadow and wind are minimized.

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    ^We're looking at floorplates around 450m2? Is it really that skinny?
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    Given the size of the lot, yes.
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    Personally I'm meh on the design. Will need to see better renders. I also live about 20' from the tower, so I'll be pretty picky about it. It'll be great to fill in the lot and get some more commercial/retail space on the street, but I'm not thrilled about 2-3 years of construction disruption nor losing even more sunlight. Such is progress!

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    I wonder about the density, since it doesn't include the lot to the south as I had thought it would.

    The design looks promising, but we'll see what kind of variances are required.
    The lot to the South I'm pretty sure has a basement for the Beaver House building below it. In the winter the snow generally melts/sublimates when it falls on it, which to me indicates there's a source of heat underneath it. It's really noticeable, the Impark lot will have an inch or two of fresh snow on it while there's bare, wet pavement in the lot just South.

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    ^so it will always be a parking lot?
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    The small sliver of lot just North of Beaver House? Yes, that would seem likely, it's part of that property I would imagine. And they have a loading dock on the North side of the building as well.

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    ' but I'm not thrilled about 2-3 years of construction disruption nor losing even more sunlight. Such is progress!'

    Indeed it is and perhaps you will get a neat refraction?
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    Possibly true. I get a ton of afternoon "sun" from Manulife.

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    I think the slender form will be a nice contrast to the downtown core. I was surprised strolling down the streets of Panama City in Panama that many recently built towers were very slender and shoved between older thick towers. When done right it could break up the monolithic look of our inventory of 120-150 meter towers in Edmonton.

    Of course from a density point this might not be the best choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Possibly true. I get a ton of afternoon "sun" from Manulife.
    The unfortunate part of highrise life...just be glad the design is skinny all around and unlike Legacy.

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    I hope 40 storeys tall will stick and not to be cut down to 35 or 30
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    30 + is just fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    I love the look, but until Westrich builds Ultima and we learn about their standards, I don't know how comfortable I would feel dropping half a million dollars to live in one of their buildings. They have to prove themselves first. That being said, I own a unit at One Century Park, built by companies with great reputations and I have been disappointed.
    what is it that has disappointed you? they look pretty cool from pictures i have see of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
    I hope 40 storeys tall will stick and not to be cut down to 35 or 30
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    30 + is just fine with me.
    i realize the desire to fill in as many vacant lots and parking lots as possible downtown, so shorter condo high rises might see us fill them up sooner than building taller ones and i'm also aware it could take longer to sell taller condos but i'm hoping they don't dummy down this one and build it at 40 as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OilTastic/BigCityDude View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    I love the look, but until Westrich builds Ultima and we learn about their standards, I don't know how comfortable I would feel dropping half a million dollars to live in one of their buildings. They have to prove themselves first. That being said, I own a unit at One Century Park, built by companies with great reputations and I have been disappointed.
    what is it that has disappointed you? they look pretty cool from pictures i have see of them.
    Poor quality. Lots of work having to be redone. Essentially, the developers cheaper out and hired a bunch of workers from Mexico without any experience. Now Procura, after buying out Westbank from the partnership is slowly making repairs. The first phase of the project is 4 years old now and they're still nowhere near complete. Shame on Procura!

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    does the developer/architect not know these crappy quality images are floating around? why wouldn't they release higher quality renders...
    you missed when time and life shook hands and said goodbye.

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    According to the new condo guide, ENCORE is "a sleek 35 story shimmering all glass luxury private residence tower..."
    and in terms of price, it's "2 bedroom, 2 bathroom condos starting in the mid $200s"

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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    According to the new condo guide, ENCORE is "a sleek 35 story shimmering all glass luxury private residence tower..."
    and in terms of price, it's "2 bedroom, 2 bathroom condos starting in the mid $200s"
    that's not a bad price point actually for 2 bed 2 bath in the downtown core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bicycles View Post
    does the developer/architect not know these crappy quality images are floating around? why wouldn't they release higher quality renders...
    The person who posted these stated they were from Global, and they (poster) apologized for the quality - so they are probably coming quite soon.

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    Smaller sized units I imagine.

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    Anyone know if they are planning to retain any of the trees on the corner of the site? Based on the renderings, I'm guessing not, but it would be nice if they could and make them fit the design.

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    If they are to be saved, it would have to be removed.

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