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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    He expected to lease the entire building to the gov't I believe which didn't happen.
    That's what I've heard. And the reason I've heard the gov't didn't choose them was over LEED requirements.... Ooops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    ^not sure if that is correct to be honest. Either way, I suspect it will be a next phase in coming years.
    That is correct. I have a friend who was high up in Alberta Infrastructure at the time who told me about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Turnbull View Post
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    ^not sure if that is correct to be honest. Either way, I suspect it will be a next phase in coming years.
    That is correct. I have a friend who was high up in Alberta Infrastructure at the time who told me about it.
    Musing...could be an excuse because "they" wanted to really be elsewhere...

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    Heard they are down to 3 locations, all downtown. Announcement in about a month.

    arena tower 2?
    102st?
    EDAAC?
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    hoping for 102st, but expecting arena.

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    oooo i seriously doubt it will be in the arena...

    EDAAC gives them the most positive impact on an area..

    Aimco would by my preferred.
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    If they chose Boyle, it would really set the area off.

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    102 centre would be awsome! That sexy tower along with the two soon to be erected downtown will certainly change our skyline dramatically.

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    102 would be my first choice, too. Would be great to have that black hole filled...

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    Not to mentioned the best view of the arena district if you're in the upper level of the tower. It will have a better peripheral view than the city tower as it set back a little from that paradign.

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    Enbridge for 102 street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Heard they are down to 3 locations, all downtown. Announcement in about a month.

    arena tower 2?
    102st?
    EDAAC?
    Sorry, if these are the three possible, where exactly are we talking for these?
    arena tower 2? Which of the towers are we reffering to?
    102st? Jasper & 102?
    EDAAC? ????
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Well given that a second office tower for the arena is not on anyone's radar nor has been discussed at all and would tie up another huge chunk of change that is likely needed for plaza space and the retail portion of the development so I say that its off the block.

    The Galleria project most suits Stantec's culture as of late regarding intigration with LRT, sustainable development, being part of a "bigger picture" I feel this makes it the clear winner.

    Aimco is my fave tower... I want to see it go forward... I am not sure that Stantec wants to move into Edmonton's trophy property.
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    After some discussion and consideration, expect it to be either EDACC or AED 2 for Stantec will want to design their own tower, not go into another consultants design.
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    ^That would certainly make sense from a costs mitigation perspective...

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    Not so much cost as a demonstration of what they can do.
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    ^ that makes sense.

    If Aimco is off the table then I want the Galleria.

    that and I kinda like Ken... he deserves a chance to show what he's got too.
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    EDACC would be good, since I doubt they will be getting any money from the City (all available provincial MSI dollars are going to LRT).
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    ^ Can't see it.
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    ^Ya, me either. Arena 2 is most likely.
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    I really do wish that it was 102, but I don't think it will be, and not just because it's not a Stantec design

    It's too bad.. the more developed areas of downtown could use some fresh looking product
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    Stantec won't be 102 for reasons mentioned IMO.

    Agreed about that, we really need some new towers along jasper +/- 1 block from 102st-109st.
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    ^ i would also be ok if what is along jasper continued to invest in face lifts. Stantec aside.
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    They can go into any new tower that will be built in the CRL zone!
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    Hearing that we are going to very happy with the new Stantec HQ.
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    Any idea when we'll hear an announcement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Hearing that we are going to very happy with the new Stantec HQ.
    We will be happy with any announcement no matter where it is located in the core.

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    excellent...

    I would be 'very happy' if one of Stantec or Enbridge choose 102 Street Centre

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    If Downtown Edmonton has only 3-4 locations for buildings having spaces of 25,000 feet of contiguous space available, I wonder if Stantec would build to accommodate this kind of demand.
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    Well I wonder when an announcement would be made.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    There has been some ground clearing work on the suburban office park where the Goldenwest golf course used to be. Could be Stantec is looking at a campus set-up like PCL.

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    ^ Uhm

    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Hearing that we are going to very happy with the new Stantec HQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph60 View Post
    There has been some ground clearing work on the suburban office park where the Goldenwest golf course used to be. Could be Stantec is looking at a campus set-up like PCL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    ^ Uhm

    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Hearing that we are going to very happy with the new Stantec HQ.
    Translation: IanO, or one of his friends/co-workers has seen something coming forward that's not public yet that they are favourable of, but he or others can't say more out of respect or a NDA

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    Correct and for the record I have not seen it yet.
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    An ideal location downtown for Stantec to build their new headquarters would be Northeast corner of Jasper Ave and 107th Street. That whole empty block needs some serious TLC. (+/- 30 Story tower w/ podium please)
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    ^ I'd be placing my money on AED tower #2, but I defer to those in the know (ChrisD, Ian, etc).
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    Any movement on Stantec?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    ^ I'd be placing my money on AED tower #2, but I defer to those in the know (ChrisD, Ian, etc).
    I think the timeline on AED tower #2 is a bit too far away to be in play for this. That group can only build so much at once.
    Not sure if it has officially been crossed of the list of possibilities yet, but my uninformed guess is Stationlands Tower B.

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    We best get an announcement soon, it must be almost a month since a new high rise office building has been announced.

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    Galleria?

    Sure would fit Stantec's criteria - and timelines too.

    I know, probably not - but that would certainly get this project going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinW View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    ^ I'd be placing my money on AED tower #2, but I defer to those in the know (ChrisD, Ian, etc).
    I think the timeline on AED tower #2 is a bit too far away to be in play for this. That group can only build so much at once.
    Not sure if it has officially been crossed of the list of possibilities yet, but my uninformed guess is Stationlands Tower B.
    Not Stationlands. Galleria, potentially. AED, potentially.

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    Irv said he had tenants for office space, maybe he was talking to Stantec

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    I'm foggy on the details here, what is the difference between Stationlands and the Galleria project? Isn't it on the same plot of land? If the Galleria project goes, does that mean Stationlands doesn't, or are they one in the same?
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    The office tower portion of the Galleria is located on the property that is immediately south of the Epcor Stationlands building. It's not part of Stationlands as that project runs along the old CN yards to the north of the CN building and the new RAM. Portions of Stationlands will be a part of the Galleria project though.
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    ^ Thanks
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    That specific lot was purchased by EDACCF well over a year ago now...for the express purpose of building 1-2 towers.

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    No announcement from stantec because they are waiting for all those pieces to fall into place for the galleria project

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    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...dmontonjournal

    Stantec is looking for the right spot for a head office, and the buzz in downtown business circles is that the Katz Group and WAM developers are keen to have Stantec in a major office tower in the arena district, but Kipnes is battling hard to have Stantec as the anchor for the Galleria’s tower.

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    If I were a Stantec employee I really would not want to have my office at the galleria campus, as much as I love the project. I think AIMCO Tower is a much better option. If katz gets Stantec for his second tower I will be upset, his job would have been to easy. Part of his end of the deal was to bring new private sector corporate presence to Edmonton, and that will not happen if he gets both the city and stantec, while simultaneously killing AIMCO Tower and the Galleria.

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    I hope Stantec picks EDACC.

    The arena and district are on fine footings, both will succeed wildly. The whole city could use the help from Stantec to leverage us an Opera House.

    Nothing against 102 Street Centre or AED, but they won't benefit the city in the same way at all.
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    Any transformation to downtown is good. Katz never promised any relocation of head quarter to here
    As per Stantec's tower, I assume they have a finalized design but is waiting to determine on locationt then?

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    With edacc going at full build this would bring 5000 people daily! Huge numbers for a truly transformational opportunity stantec can help realize

    Besides underground parking which every tower will have stantec will have access to a bright, new under ground pedway linked up to lrt

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    ^^ He promised a communications company head office.

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    If it was someone other than Rogers he would be in deep Shiite

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    ^^ He promised a communications company head office.
    Where did you hear that other than C2E?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenco View Post
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    ^^ He promised a communications company head office.
    Where did you hear that other than C2E?
    It was never a C2E rumor, it was explicitly stated by the Katz group in this article:

    EDMONTON JOURNAL
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    Main anchor tenants are expected to include a VIP theatre complex, a grocery store and the headquarters of a major telecommunications company, according to a 60-page overview of the district by the Katz Group and partner WAM Development Group.

    http://www.canada.com/edmontonjourna...a-649cf7388bf4

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    Just to split hairs, that's actually the Journal saying "headquarters of a major telecommunications company", we don't see the Katz Group's exact wording.

    The Journal could have misinterpreted something. For all we can see there, perhaps all the Katz Group alluded to was arena participation/sponsorship by a major telco. We need to see 60 page overview ourselves.
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    ^that is true. would be interesting to see this 60 page document. Hopefully it's not full of wild promises that will never come to fruition.

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    I for one hope the article proves to be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I for one hope the article proves to be accurate.
    I wouldn't hold my breath, that is if you are referring to the HQs, so far one office is good to go and all they could get was the City to be the main tenant.

    However, back to Stantec - I imagine EDAAC, but would rather something west of 101st and south of 104 ave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Just to split hairs, that's actually the Journal saying "headquarters of a major telecommunications company", we don't see the Katz Group's exact wording.

    The Journal could have misinterpreted something. For all we can see there, perhaps all the Katz Group alluded to was arena participation/sponsorship by a major telco. We need to see 60 page overview ourselves.
    The Journal could of misinterpreted "Headquarters" when in fact the Katz Group could of been eluding to a Regional HQ which would make more sense. Rogers has no corp presence in Edmonton, and I'm sure they would love to have their name on a tower near the arena once everything is built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmart81 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Just to split hairs, that's actually the Journal saying "headquarters of a major telecommunications company", we don't see the Katz Group's exact wording.

    The Journal could have misinterpreted something. For all we can see there, perhaps all the Katz Group alluded to was arena participation/sponsorship by a major telco. We need to see 60 page overview ourselves.
    The Journal could of misinterpreted "Headquarters" when in fact the Katz Group could of been eluding to a Regional HQ which would make more sense. Rogers has no corp presence in Edmonton, and I'm sure they would love to have their name on a tower near the arena once everything is built.
    ok that does not matter at all. A corporate presence is a corporate presence and something that he appears to be falling short of

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Just to split hairs, that's actually the Journal saying "headquarters of a major telecommunications company", we don't see the Katz Group's exact wording.

    The Journal could have misinterpreted something. For all we can see there, perhaps all the Katz Group alluded to was arena participation/sponsorship by a major telco. We need to see 60 page overview ourselves.
    I guess it is up to the people who are doubting the contents of the Journal story to show evidence of where the Katz group said this was misstated.

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    If Katz had promised a head office, there would not be such confusion on this forum right now as it would have been common knowledge by now across the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmart81 View Post
    The Journal could of misinterpreted "Headquarters" when in fact the Katz Group could of been eluding to a Regional HQ which would make more sense. Rogers has no corp presence in Edmonton, and I'm sure they would love to have their name on a tower near the arena once everything is built.
    All they need to do to put their name on a tower downtown is pay the fee for the rights and put up the sign; they don't need to have an office full of people to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Just to split hairs, that's actually the Journal saying "headquarters of a major telecommunications company", we don't see the Katz Group's exact wording.

    The Journal could have misinterpreted something. For all we can see there, perhaps all the Katz Group alluded to was arena participation/sponsorship by a major telco. We need to see 60 page overview ourselves.
    I guess it is up to the people who are doubting the contents of the Journal story to show evidence of where the Katz group said this was misstated.
    Please don't mistake me, I'm just trying not to count chickens before they hatch. I'd love to see a telecom HQ returned to Edmonton from the industry.
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    Isn't there a spectrum auction at some point soon? Or could Quebecor or perhaps a HQ for Shaw Mobile? Just throwing out ideas. I have no knowledge whatsoever.

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    There was one already. Videotron (Quebecor owned) bought a bunch of spectrum in Alberta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Just to split hairs, that's actually the Journal saying "headquarters of a major telecommunications company", we don't see the Katz Group's exact wording.

    The Journal could have misinterpreted something. For all we can see there, perhaps all the Katz Group alluded to was arena participation/sponsorship by a major telco. We need to see 60 page overview ourselves.
    I guess it is up to the people who are doubting the contents of the Journal story to show evidence of where the Katz group said this was misstated.
    Please don't mistake me, I'm just trying not to count chickens before they hatch. I'd love to see a telecom HQ returned to Edmonton from the industry.
    Although I quoted you I was really replying to the idea that the comments weren't made and others seem to suggest they weren't. They were not refuted by the Katz group during the arena debate and hopefully some kind of telecom office will be established here.

    The point was that the comments were made and I thank perspective for digging up the proof.

    Back in the 70's Peter Lougheed also made comments about making Calgary a head office city (and that there could only be one such city in Alberta) but the written proof of that is harder to dig up. The proof isn't, all one has to do is look at where any financial statement, invoice or cheque from the GofA comes from and what transpired during his time in office to see it.

    Anyway to return to the topic I agree with the hope that Stantec chooses EDAAC as I feel it would have the most positive impact for the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Isn't there a spectrum auction at some point soon? Or could Quebecor or perhaps a HQ for Shaw Mobile? Just throwing out ideas. I have no knowledge whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Isn't there a spectrum auction at some point soon? Or could Quebecor or perhaps a HQ for Shaw Mobile? Just throwing out ideas. I have no knowledge whatsoever.
    Videotron..
    Not SHAW. First the Edmonton founders left Edmonton in a huff and second they have sold or are peddling the spectrum they bought previously...as they were out of their league and had a puny piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
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    Isn't there a spectrum auction at some point soon? Or could Quebecor or perhaps a HQ for Shaw Mobile? Just throwing out ideas. I have no knowledge whatsoever.
    Videotron..
    Not SHAW. First the Edmonton founders left Edmonton in a huff and second they have sold or are peddling the spectrum they bought previously...as they were out of their league and had a puny piece.
    Videotron is not Shaw. They sold their cable business in the 90s to Videon who then merged with Shaw. Videotron is owned by Quebecor now. We're talking about Videotron expanding their wireless business westward.
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    Hearing that an announcement might be this or next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Hearing that an announcement might be this or next week.
    What's the scoop? Is it related to the proposed EDCC?

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    I'm guessing another AED tower
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    Sounds like it is between EDACC and AED.
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    Sorry, what does EDACC stand for?

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    Edmonton Downtown Arts and Cultural Centre
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    I hope it's the EDACC so the that the tower gets built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
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    Isn't there a spectrum auction at some point soon? Or could Quebecor or perhaps a HQ for Shaw Mobile? Just throwing out ideas. I have no knowledge whatsoever.
    Videotron..
    Not SHAW. First the Edmonton founders left Edmonton in a huff and second they have sold or are peddling the spectrum they bought previously...as they were out of their league and had a puny piece.
    Videotron is not Shaw. They sold their cable business in the 90s to Videon who then merged with Shaw. Videotron is owned by Quebecor now. We're talking about Videotron expanding their wireless business westward.
    thanks for being in the know! It's refreshing.
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    I don't care which one it is, just as long as its downtown and in a nice tall tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilman View Post
    I don't care which one it is, just as long as its downtown and in a nice tall tower
    Like the Edmontonian?

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    My money's on EDACC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialog View Post
    My money's on EDACC.
    Isn't there an EDACC thing tomorrow at City Hall? That's probably why.

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    Just a reminder of the EDACC tower proposal:

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    Well if tower B is what is announced it will definitely further help tie the downtown to this northern edge of the downtown. EPCOR started it, then the COE building and hopefully this one next.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    I would also put money on EADCC... that is one ugly parking lot that needs to go...

    and hopefully 40 stories plus...

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    My money is on AEDCC site as well but not Edmontons tallest.

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    My hope is obviously on EDACC, but the way Katz group man-handled the competition for the Edmonton Tower was pretty eye-opening.
    Let's make Edmonton better.

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    So Edmonton tower, plus a new Stantec Tower, plus Enbridge may be in a new tower... can we handle all that vacancy?
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    In Stantec's case, they would be moving their offices from west of downtown plus the old World Health Club space in Bell. So they would be sorta-kinda a new addition to the financial core.
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    Is Edmonton in a recession? We added 34000 people to Edmonton last year we have 4.9% unemployment the economics is of unprecedented growth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    So Edmonton tower, plus a new Stantec Tower, plus Enbridge may be in a new tower... can we handle all that vacancy?
    Isn't that a bit of a moot point? What are you going to do, go protest in front of Katz's, aimco's, and kipnes' offices? Demand that they don't build towers? So that existing landlords won't have any vacancy?

    Do you see how ridiculous this whole straw man argument really is?

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    It was a question. Not an argument...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    So Edmonton tower, plus a new Stantec Tower, plus Enbridge may be in a new tower... can we handle all that vacancy?
    Don't forget KR.

    It's nice to have so many projects going on that we forget some of them.

    I just hope it's taller than 150, our skyline is really plateauing.

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    My guess is that it's in the neighbourhood of 150-160 m. It's a skinnier tower, so it won't have an overwhelming capacity.

    These towers take 2 or more years to build, but I think the city should be hustling to secure more tenants.
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    A user named Tower Crane on SSP has said they have made a decision but he left us hanging by saying "and the winner is ----".

    I guess we will find out soon enough. Damn teases!

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