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    Default The Race for the Mayor's Chair

    Seeing as there isn't currently a generic thread on where to comment on the issues, without starting a new thread every time, I thought that I would create one.
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    Staples' article regarding the Mayoralty candidates' positions on regional cooperation

    Staples: Mayoral candidates want regional co-operation, not warfare

    Staples: Mayoral candidates want regional co-operation, not warfare

    BY DAVID STAPLES, EDMONTON JOURNAL AUGUST 8, 2013



    We do not want to be seen as pirates, says Coun. Kerry Diotte.

    We must be diplomatic, says Coun. Don Iveson.

    All three councillors running for mayor agree that Edmonton should not try to strong arm anything through when it comes to getting a better deal with our neighbours in the capital region.

    Yet all three also agree that there’s a problem here, that something must be done, and that they are just the leader to solve things, even after decades of no or slow progress on fixing the gigantic mess of planning and fiscal mismanagement that our capital region has become. For instance, a new study by municipal tax expert Don Good shows that 13.5 per cent of the capital region’s population, almost all located in rural areas, gets 70 per cent of the industrial taxes generated by pipelines and refineries, $96 million in 2011 alone. Highly populated places like St. Albert, Fort Saskatchewan, Spruce Grove, Devon, Leduc, Morinville, Gibbons, Legal, Stony Plain, Beaumont and Edmonton are left to divide up the remaining $41 million.

    To move forward on the regional file, Leibovici, Iveson and Diotte support Edmonton’s plan to annex county land in and around the International Airport. But none of the three want the province to step in and legislate a settlement, even if the Progressive Conservatives did make this mess in the first place. First, the PCs failed to allow Edmonton to annex neighbouring lands and communities in the early 1980s, then disbanded regional provincial planning in the early 1990s. This particular Ralph Klein cut allowed for a messy free-for-all of development, which has seen such notions as Sherwood Park propose building a new sprawling burb of 200,000.


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    Coun. Don Iveson will have my vote for Mayor's chair.
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    It is interesting how David staples is complaining about the 13.5% of the regions population getting 70% of the industrial tax base and then goes on to apparently disapprove of Sherwood Park's proposal to build a new sprawling burn of 200,000 people. Strathcona County is the one regional government that shares the industrial tax base it has between the rural and urban constituents. Also, Sherwood Park isn't proposing building a new sprawling burb because Sherwood Park does not have a government to do so.

    In going to the link provided by ScottieA it is a bit disturbing that the Staples article came up under NEWS instead of OPINION because clearly he is reporting things as fact that are wrong.

    Fort Saskatchewan, Spruce Grove, Devon, Leduc, Morinville, Gibbons, Legal, Stony Plain and Beaumont are places that felt they would be better off governing themselves instead of being part of the counties that surround them. They must have felt that there was economic advantage to not be part of these counties and now they cry that they are getting shut out of revenue from those very counties. "The ironing is delicious."

    I agree that the idea of having a new 200,000 person community in Strathcona County should not proceed. How is it going to benefit the people who already live in the County?

    Reading the article it seems that based on experience this should be a two horse race with the media guy losing out.

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    I'm torn between Don Iveson and Karen Liebowici. I think one of them will be the new mayor. I'm looking forward to the debates. Diotte has the "fix the potholes" crowd, but I don't think he'll get pro-business, pro-downtown development, pro-LRT expansion voters
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    At this point I'm predicting an Iveson win. He has the youth and stronger social media presence, plus he's been tirelessly been all over the place.

    Don shows his humor and nerd cred in this tweet:

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    ^^ saw Don Iveson at the Marc with 2 guys for lunch last week
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    I drove down 75st the other day and saw a bunch of Kerry Diotte signs on lawns. Coincidentally, every single home was clearly occupied by folks of the elderly persuasion, evidenced by seeing the owners outside, doily curtains, or pattern furniture in the living room facing a wooden TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    occupied by folks of the elderly persuasion
    ...and that's the demographic which votes in record numbers, whereas Don's base tends to stay away from the polls...

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    Don has my vote! I'm looking forward to this sleepy campaign heating up in September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
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    occupied by folks of the elderly persuasion
    ...and that's the demographic which votes in record numbers, whereas Don's base tends to stay away from the polls...
    I think, with no incumbent running for mayor, we might see a higher turnout. Yes, older demographic groups turn out in higher numbers, but I would be interested in seeing the fund-raising revenue in each of the mayoral campaigns.
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    Heard Don Iveson has a weak list of solid supporters and at this point isn't looking good. Canvasing for Don is just getting started however, but at this point he needs a lot of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
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    occupied by folks of the elderly persuasion
    ...and that's the demographic which votes in record numbers, whereas Don's base tends to stay away from the polls...
    Maybe it's because the candidates often camp out in senior's residences. I understand it's hard for them to get working people with lives, but if they don't do everything they can to engage that demographic, they'll stay apathetic.

    I've never had a candidate come to my door, and since my Kim is retiring, I'd really like them too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 24karat View Post
    I'm torn between Don Iveson and Karen Liebowici. I think one of them will be the new mayor. I'm looking forward to the debates. Diotte has the "fix the potholes" crowd, but I don't think he'll get pro-business, pro-downtown development, pro-LRT expansion voters
    I'm worried the support for pro-business, pro-development, and pro-LRT will be split between Iveson and Leibovici giving Diotte the win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 24karat View Post
    I'm torn between Don Iveson and Karen Liebowici. I think one of them will be the new mayor. I'm looking forward to the debates. Diotte has the "fix the potholes" crowd, but I don't think he'll get pro-business, pro-downtown development, pro-LRT expansion voters
    I'm worried the support for pro-business, pro-development, and pro-LRT will be split between Iveson and Leibovici giving Diotte the win.
    Then, vote Leibovici. She has work-related relationship with other municipalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
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    occupied by folks of the elderly persuasion
    ...and that's the demographic which votes in record numbers, whereas Don's base tends to stay away from the polls...
    Dons base stays away from the poll because no one acknowledges whats important to them...
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    But I am leaning towards Iveson

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    Karen is a pretty solid choice. I wouldn't discount her.
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    I'm still researching but I am drawn the the youth of Iveson (obviously not the only reason I would pick him). Haven't made a final decision yet.

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    Does anyone else find Leibovici's Clone Army marketing campaign more than slightly irritating?

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    I like Karen on paper, but the track record here in Canada for female political leaders going from "strong" pre-election to "bat-shite-crazy" post-election is just a bit too solid to ignore.
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    My concern that if Diotte wins, business may flee elsewhere because he is too conservative with spending and may further reduce city services and etc.
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    I'm still undecided- will probably decide at the last moment (between Leibovici and Iveson) depending on who has got the momentum.

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    Let's try tactical voting. It worked in the 2012 Alberta election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    I like Karen on paper, but the track record here in Canada for female political leaders going from "strong" pre-election to "bat-shite-crazy" post-election is just a bit too solid to ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesL View Post
    Does anyone else find Leibovici's Clone Army marketing campaign more than slightly irritating?

    My biggest worry that she may be next Janice Reimer ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
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    Does anyone else find Leibovici's Clone Army marketing campaign more than slightly irritating?

    My biggest worry that she may be next Janice Reimer ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
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    My biggest worry that she may be next Janice Reimer ??
    She's pro-business unlike Reimer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 24karat View Post
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    My biggest worry that she may be next Janice Reimer ??
    She's pro-business unlike Reimer.
    Diotte is a male version of Reimer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemic View Post
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    My biggest worry that she may be next Janice Reimer ??
    She's pro-business unlike Reimer.
    Diotte is a male version of Reimer.
    Haha agreed

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    Diotte is more of a Cecil Purves, who was a Social Credit conservative who always said "no".
    The one municipal politician who reminds me of Jan Reimer is Linda Sloan - socialist anti-business career politician who says "no" a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    I like Karen on paper, but the track record here in Canada for female political leaders going from "strong" pre-election to "bat-shite-crazy" post-election is just a bit too solid to ignore.
    I am sorry.. so now you are saying that all women go crazy when elected... I nominate this for most useless post of the decade.

    Karen runs and stands on her record which it impressive even if she has done a crap job at promoting herself. Based on your logic, we need to to elect a woman as men become sex crazed, corrupt war mongers when elected.
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    I respect and like Leibovici, but I'm definitely pulling for Iveson:
    A) He has a strong understanding of the issues surrounding regional planning and cooperation.
    B) He's very approachable and has a strong grass roots reach and connection to the community.
    C) Don has presented his vision of the city more clearly than the other candidates.
    D) I think he's the strongest candidate that we have to represent and sell our city to the outside world.

    I think many are deciding between Karen and Don right now, but I think that Don will arise as the preferred choice of those who want to keep the Mandel momentum going.
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    ^But that's an educated person's reasoning... think of the masses, think of those who WILL vote. However, if we got Mandel this many rounds in a row, I am optimistic about Iveson being elected, but only once his team gets their shiznaz together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    ^But that's an educated person's reasoning... think of the masses, think of those who WILL vote. However, if we got Mandel this many rounds in a row, I am optimistic about Iveson being elected, but only once his team gets their shiznaz together.
    Really?.. Mandel was fairly anonymous during his first two runs and seems to have alienated the majority of the populous during his third. Running on the "Mandel legacy" could yet prove toxic to both his acolytes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnugent View Post
    I respect and like Leibovici, but I'm definitely pulling for Iveson:
    A) He has a strong understanding of the issues surrounding regional planning and cooperation.
    B) He's very approachable and has a strong grass roots reach and connection to the community.
    C) Don has presented his vision of the city more clearly than the other candidates.
    D) I think he's the strongest candidate that we have to represent and sell our city to the outside world.

    I think many are deciding between Karen and Don right now, but I think that Don will arise as the preferred choice of those who want to keep the Mandel momentum going.
    I am also trying to decide between Karen and Don (strongly leaning towards Karen) as I think she would be a better choice on keeping Mandel's vision and momentum going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    However, if we got Mandel this many rounds in a row...
    Yeah, right. Just look at his opposition in the previous two elections:

    -Don Koziak
    -Bill Whatcott
    -Dave Dowling
    -David Dorward

    ...among others. He's won re-election twice because none of his challengers had any real experience, or nutters from the religious right (Whatcott...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemic View Post
    Diotte is a male version of Reimer.
    Wrong.

    He'd be Edmonton's version of Rob Ford.

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    I also think some of the opposition to Mandel became attached to hot issues like the City Centre Airport. I think that the one possible issue this time around could be the arena. I imagine that if there's a mayoral candidate who enters solely committed to that one issue, it could split the vote with Diotte.
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    I imagine that one thing working against Leibovici could be age, she'll be 65 by the time next election rolls around.
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    ^I haven't had a good look at Karen but she doesn't come across as being 60 (or 61) in her campaign poster. Personality and attitude can make one look younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I imagine that one thing working against Leibovici could be age, she'll be 65 by the time next election rolls around.
    Not sure what age has to do with anything, Mandel is 68 and did a hell of a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilman View Post

    Not sure what age has to do with anything, Mandel is 68 and did a hell of a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I imagine that one thing working against Leibovici could be age, she'll be 65 by the time next election rolls around.
    The menopause is probably well behind her by now and so she's likely to be stable for a while before senility sets in later on?... But to be on the safe side it's probably best to vote for a man.

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    look at Ronald Reagan who took white house at age 69 in 1981. I believe age is not really important in any election anywhere.
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    Seniority is more often an advantage in politics than a setback. It takes a long time to develop the skills necessary to perform in the public daily life. So I certainly don't think Karen's age is a setback.

    On a similar note, that's what I find so impressive about Don... he has the intellectual and political maturity of someone decades older. I think that if he is given the opportunity to be mayor, he will have a strong presence representing Edmonton afterwards in bigger political arenas, provincially or federally.
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    My mom's husband is voting for Diotte for two reasons: 1) he wants to fix potholes, and 2) he was against the arena. My mom's husband doesn't understand how the arena is being paid for (I've tried explaining it to him many, many times), and I consider him to be an intelligent guy. I worry there are lots of others like him out there.

    There are a number of wards that only have the incumbent Councillor running in them (so far). How will that affect the turnout at the polls in those wards?
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    My mom's husband is voting for Diotte for two reasons: 1) he wants to fix potholes, and 2) he was against the arena. My mom's husband doesn't understand how the arena is being paid for (I've tried explaining it to him many, many times), and I consider him to be an intelligent guy. I worry there are lots of others like him out there.

    There are a number of wards that only have the incumbent Councillor running in them (so far). How will that affect the turnout at the polls in those wards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    My mom's husband is voting for Diotte for two reasons: 1) he wants to fix potholes, and 2) he was against the arena. My mom's husband doesn't understand how the arena is being paid for (I've tried explaining it to him many, many times), and I consider him to be an intelligent guy. I worry there are lots of others like him out there.

    There are a number of wards that only have the incumbent Councillor running in them (so far). How will that affect the turnout at the polls in those wards?



    How telling Gordo.

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    So if hbe's against the arena, and Diotte said he wouldn't change the deal, they why would he vote for someone who is in a way FOR the arena. This is the electorate I do not trust. Those who punish-vote on topics they disagreed with, rather than vote to where they see things going (as in the couple years that person is in office, or where they like to see their city go...)

    "I was against that thing the guy who isn't running this time around had passed. So I'll vote the guy in who disliked it but can't change a damn thing!" Great logic. I've been scanning Diotte's website to see his future of Edmonton... still scanning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    My mom's husband is voting for Diotte for two reasons: 1) he wants to fix potholes,
    So you're saying Diotte is the only candidate who wants to fix potholes? Thanks for the laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 24karat View Post
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    My mom's husband is voting for Diotte for two reasons: 1) he wants to fix potholes,
    So you're saying Diotte is the only candidate who wants to fix potholes? Thanks for the laugh.
    No I think he's saying that that is Diotte's only platform issue.

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    Most Mayors usually want to fix potholes and there is no end in sight to solve potholes problems
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    ^Oh course there is... less cars on the road to beat them up. That's the best logic to me. Better transit equals better roads due to less cars. I'd like to see that in a debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by expat View Post
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    I imagine that one thing working against Leibovici could be age, she'll be 65 by the time next election rolls around.
    The menopause is probably well behind her by now and so she's likely to be stable for a while before senility sets in later on?... But to be on the safe side it's probably best to vote for a man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mla View Post
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    My mom's husband is voting for Diotte for two reasons: 1) he wants to fix potholes,
    So you're saying Diotte is the only candidate who wants to fix potholes? Thanks for the laugh.
    No I think he's saying that that is Diotte's only platform issue.
    Exactly. That's the only thing he's mentioned in his platform, and it's an issue my mom's husband cares about.

    I was trying to explain why some people are planning to vote for Diotte, as the majority on this forum (myself included) have no use for the guy.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    If someone manages to engage the youth... they will nip it in the bud. -full stop-

    Kerry is out of his league. Look t the article where the three were asked to speak to regional co operation. Kerry had nothing to say and all the paper could say about him was that he had no experience on the issue.

    Karen and Don both had thoughtful insight and experience to fall back on.
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    On Kerry's website and Facebook all he talks about is how we are taxed more than before, are more in debt than before, and how our roads are in worse condition. What irks me is that nowhere does he mention a better tax model for municipalities in Alberta/Canada as the solution to the funding and property tax reliance problems many Edmontonians are fed up with and do not support in the 21st century as a sustainable source of revenue to build the city's infrastructure with a booming economy and growing population. I get the roads are terrible - as a cyclist and driver - but wouldn't it make more sense to tackle regional cooperation and more power for regions - groups of cooperative municipalities - to build stronger city communities/urban environments so that Edmonton, for example, doesn't have to raise taxes all the time to build transit, rec centres, overpasses, and new arterial roads without dedicated and reliable funding sources from the major providers (province/feds).

    I don't follow Karen as much as I should (I will more now that we're getting into the swing of things), but I know Don is On The Ball when it comes to the underlying issues of municipal machinery. That's where the whole populist Kerry gets on my nerves. Face value issues only. The thing is that he doesn't talk a whole lot - or not at all - about the underlying REAL issues of potholes, or municipal debt (maybe the fact that we only recently allowed the city to RUN a deficit, and lacked infrastructure investment), and regional cooperation (lack there of).

    I just hope people vote for a change in the power and function of our city, rather than just the figurehead who talks the way they like their figurehead's to talk.

    With a growing population, and borrowing rates this low, and an infrastructure deficit this high... why would we NOT be in debt? Our roads are bad because the funds put aside year after year were not high enough for our massive sq/km spread. If Kerry wants to save the city from potholes and get some votes he should talk about smart-growth, infill, transit, sustainability, and getting zoning and regulations for business more relaxed to entice more dense employment nodes and mixed-use neighbourhoods.

    This election could be the crest of Edmonton's new-urbanist wave into the 21st century, or the high water mark where that wave broke and washed back to sea. If anything... if Kerry wins, and things turn for what people predict - I don't think it will be that bad; he's only one vote - but we may get a lot more grass roots projects and initiatives blooming from out of our most urban neighbourhoods north and south of the river. No matter what the next four years in Edmonton are going to be WILD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    Heard Don Iveson has a weak list of solid supporters and at this point isn't looking good. Canvasing for Don is just getting started however, but at this point he needs a lot of work.
    My mind went back to this comment when I saw an invitation yesterday to a reception/fundraiser for Iveson hosted by two huge names in the legal/business community. This guy is getting some muscle in his corner.

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    I still think Kerry Diotte is the dark horse in the race. He is one to be watched. None of us should under estimate him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
    My concern that if Diotte wins, business may flee elsewhere because he is too conservative with spending and may further reduce city services and etc.
    The mayor has only one vote. He's not respected on council so the bigger risk is he causes a dysfunctional group.

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    ^She's playing her cards right. Saying you want the arena to be bigger will get your name out there alright. She's in real estate as well so generating publicity for that gig. Doubt if she has a snowballs chance in hello of winning.
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    She doesn't. Check her Facebook page.

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    ^Not on Facebook but I will take your word for it.
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    You don't have to be:

    https://www.facebook.com/kristine.acielo

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    Chairs and tables have been placed in the Karen Leibovici campaign office, but no signage is up yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    ^She's playing her cards right. Saying you want the arena to be bigger will get your name out there alright. She's in real estate as well so generating publicity for that gig. Doubt if she has a snowballs chance in hello of winning.
    Interesting point. Also the kick about starting small I think is good opener too as it shows she's able to think big but also that some day after leaving municipal politics she could help Edmonton at the provincial / Federal level she could turn out to be the long term investment we are looking for

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    Seems the only thing she has done in municipal politics is declare herself running for the mayor chair. The rest is just 'watch this space' and I don't think we will be doing that for long.
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    part i kinda despise of Mandel he was bit of a loose cannon , he could't get a long with other levels of government and it hurt Edmonton. As we work towards regional collaboration this woman may hold the key.
    But I haven't checked much in to here just from the articule

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Seems the only thing she has done in municipal politics is declare herself running for the mayor chair. The rest is just 'watch this space' and I don't think we will be doing that for long.
    What have Don and Diotte done?

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    I can tell you what most of them ' haven't done' and that's fix the damn roads ! Sewers are a mess ! and did I mention fix the roads

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    Well, if you are a Diotte supporter (I'm not) you will conjure up something he has done.
    Iveson, well he has a bit more of a history, weather you like that history or not is another matter.
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    One more mayoral hopeful... here is his business card: https://twitter.com/davecournoyer/st...640640/photo/1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Well, if you are a Diotte supporter (I'm not) you will conjure up something he has done.
    Iveson, well he has a bit more of a history, weather you like that history or not is another matter.
    Don't believe anyone is really a Diotte supporter,....just they are fed up and will protest vote. If I am still in the city come election that is who I am voting for , it couldn't get much worst than it already is

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    Quote Originally Posted by GizmoForMayor View Post
    One more mayoral hopeful... here is his business card: https://twitter.com/davecournoyer/st...640640/photo/1
    Please tell me that some kind of sick twisted joke
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    The Race for the Mayor's Chair

    Fore some people it's going to be more of a waddle to the mayor's chair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niceroads View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GizmoForMayor View Post
    One more mayoral hopeful... here is his business card: https://twitter.com/davecournoyer/st...640640/photo/1
    Please tell me that some kind of sick twisted joke
    5000 years
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    Here's his FB page.....https://www.facebook.com/fang.husband
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    Fang Hu's facebook page is similarly enlightening:

    https://www.facebook.com/fang.husband

    What I'm wondering is if these candidates are actually candidates, i.e., have or intend to get their nomination papers in order and pay their deposit, or if they are simply "declaring" themselves candidates.

    BTW, I find fringe candidates very interesting and can hardly wait till Sept 24 to find out which ones are real.

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    Ah yes. Remember John Buttrey and John Horobec?
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    Could someone run fully not intending to put much effort into campaigning etc? And just to get some good ideas into the conversation through some media exposure and debates etc?

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    Posters are up at Karen Leibovici's office. Someone was there manning the phone after 9:00 PM. Looks like her campaign is ready to rumble. They should really put up a sign above the main door, though, even if its just a cloth banner.




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    Glad to see it's such a prominent location, and a few custom banners for the windows wouldn't cost that much...
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    They had a large photo banner above the front door this afternoon.
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    ^
    Excellent!

    Is there going to be some kind of mayoral debate? I'm leaning towards Don at this time, but I'd like to hear a bit more from Karen before I make my final decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niceroads View Post
    I can tell you what most of them ' haven't done' and that's fix the damn roads ! Sewers are a mess ! and did I mention fix the roads
    That is a load of BS... this council has poured more money into infrastructure than any council since before Jan.

    You need to do research cause you are simply WRONG.

    This goes over and above roads an potholes, it includes VERY BADLY NEEDED sewer/stormwater systems.... Having some bad roads sucks but having a poor sewer system is down right $hitty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ustauk View Post
    ^
    Excellent!

    Is there going to be some kind of mayoral debate? I'm leaning towards Don at this time, but I'd like to hear a bit more from Karen before I make my final decision.
    There will be three mayoral forums...
    Tuesday October 1 - 7-9pm - Harry Ainlay
    Monday October 7 - 11:30am - 1:30pm Shaw Conference Centre
    Thursday October 10 - 7-9pm Italian Cultural Centre


    as well as one for each ward. The schedule is found here:
    http://www.edmonton.ca/city_governme...-schedule.aspx
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    ^
    Thanks!

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    No problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by booster View Post
    They had a large photo banner above the front door this afternoon.
    Pics of the new signage below. Looks well done, and appears it will peel of easily when it needs to be removed; probably similar to the graphics they put on the sides of ETS buses and trains.



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    Great to see Karen's presence !!
    Still waiting for the Arlington site to be reborn .......

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    Karen = fail for voting in favor of Molson/Crosstown power centre
    Don = pass for voting against
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    Based on that logic, Sloan is good for voting against it?

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    Sloan doesn't even have a Yes vote button at her desk
    But that's not the point. The point is that Iveson gets my vote because of Molson/Crosstown.
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    You are basing your vote on a small development that is quite inconsequential? I think Don voting no against the arena the whole time is a bigger deal than this.

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    ^Don voted for the final arena plan. He did vote against some elements of the plan earlier on.
    Go down a few dark alleys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilman View Post
    You are basing your vote on a small development that is quite inconsequential? I think Don voting no against the arena the whole time is a bigger deal than this.
    Yes, it means he was one of the few on city council that had a balanced, nuanced view on the arena and that was able to get beyond ego, bluster, and hype and actually look at the figures, issues, and utilize independent sound judgement.

    Which I applaud him for. He's one of the few, if any, on council that passed the Arena test imo.

    I don't doubt that his view on Crosstown was also due to his independent views and the time he takes to actually comprehend issues and decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Sloan doesn't even have a Yes vote button at her desk
    But that's not the point. The point is that Iveson gets my vote because of Molson/Crosstown.
    Sloan was AMAZING at the Molson Crosstown public hearing. Great questions...
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