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    not sure if it was mentioned before, but Joey's will be moving from 112street to this new location, it won't be keeping the other one open.

    Mentioned in this CTV clip: http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/ctv-edmonton-morning-live
    (Can't get a direct link to the video, but click on "arena area development" on the right)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective View Post
    not sure if it was mentioned before, but Joey's will be moving from 112street to this new location, it won't be keeping the other one open.

    Mentioned in this CTV clip: http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/ctv-edmonton-morning-live
    (Can't get a direct link to the video, but click on "arena area development" on the right)
    Yes, it was mentioned earlier in this thread.
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    Found it funny that D-Mac was announcing this on the 6 PM CTV News a few months late!
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    What's happening with this? Coming into autumn now, but still an Impark lot, still no movement on this.
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    Just a guess but maybe holding off until the city tower is further along to avoid noise/dust/mess for when the restaurant is complete- but would like to see this move!

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    Or looking at options?
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    I imagine that JT's will probably start up sometime after the excavation is finished at the CoE Tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Or looking at options?
    Second thoughts on Bell, are they? Or maybe Bell is having second thoughts.
    Be interesting to know what other options they are considering.
    Personally I'd like to see them keep the Oliver location and open the new location near the AED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Or looking at options?
    Is this a guess, or something more than a guess?

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    Is their Oliver not going to become a Local?

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    Hearing this will finally start sometime in October. Can't remember what the holdup was about.
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    The "Joey Restaurant" chain is scheduled for opening in late 2015 in the lot, just north of the Tower, with construction beginning in 2015.
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    With all the talk of new restos coming to the AED, I presume construction is going ahead very soon?
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    So any word on construction for this restaurant yet? Is it still going where it was planned?
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    It's still listed on Bell's website, see post #112
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    The timeline for building this restaurant will be maybe 7 months... It is expected to open along with the arena. Lots of time to get moving on this one for it to open on time mid 2016. Maybe fall 2015 start?

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    Looks like it's getting started

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    Not so fast, meme-boy

    City has issued a SWO on this project
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    ^ any idea why?
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    Oh I've heard a few things about this project

    The city is not being co-operative, and many are wondering if the new neighbours aren't pulling the marionette strings attached to the puppets at city hall
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    But the hoarding does belong to the project though?
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    If the city is not co-operative, how was this project approved?
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    You don't deal with the city much, do you ?
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    And an "SWO"is?

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    Stop work order i presume. this will be interesting...

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    240GLT, I don't deal much with the city, which begs my question.
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    Well if it is a stop work order, than I'm wondering what the reason given was? I hope this doesn't get stopped completely as I think this would be a nice addition to the area. I don't want to see restaurants only in the arena district plaza, we need to see vibrancy leading in and out of that area too.
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    hope this isnt a sign of the arena district attempting to monopolize on the restaurants etc... or this whole thing is gonna be very self-contained

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    I wonder if it's not related to construction overload on 102 Street.
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    That doesn't make sense to me. Not only is this project just a tiny fraction of what's going on in the area, but punishing this development for the Katz Groups' nearby "excessive development" is pretty much illegal.

    If over-development were the issue the city could get the same reduction by cutting back stantec by a third of one floor.

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    Perhaps not, I'm just musing. I know next to nothing about construction or permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective View Post
    hope this isnt a sign of the arena district attempting to monopolize on the restaurants etc... or this whole thing is gonna be very self-contained
    And why would this be a surprise? Hogswallop about "revitalizing downtown" is just lubricant. Why would the Katz Group have any interest in benefits of their endeavour accruing to anyone but themselves?

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    "Hogswallop", what is that supposed to mean? You are just responding to idle speculation that doesn't deserve consideration.

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    Idle speculation? Here? On C2E? Well, I never...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    "Hogswallop", what is that supposed to mean? You are just responding to idle speculation that doesn't deserve consideration.
    I believe he's created a portmanteau from the words "hogwash" and "codswallop". Fairly creative, and quite possibly accurate.
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    Hog seemed more relevant than cod here on the prairies (although we'll likely be farming cod by the boatload any day now). Hokum either way though.

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    Damn you Medwards and your useful googling.

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    There is a concrete pumper for the COE on the Bell Joey site. Is that why there's a stop work order for the Joey?
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    No.

    First it was the design and setbacks, then it was the interpretation of the fire code, then it was the prohibitive service connection requirements, now it's something else.
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    Thanks for the info, GLT. I was starting to think it was the closure of that part of the alley, which would obviously hinder access to the COE construction site.
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    Well I hope that they can get things straightened out so that this project can get moving, I want to go there to have supper and watch the construction of the Ed tower.
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    Looks like a trackhoe was moved onto the site, hopefully this means they are digging up the pavement/starting construction soon.


    Taken from http://www.rogersplace.com/time-lapse/
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    I have to admit, I am quit curious to see how this thing turns out.
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    My guess would be "awesome."

    Still like your idea of rooftop balcony. I wonder if that doesn't happen because of the risk of falling squeegees.
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    Digging has commenced in the alley between COE and Joey
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    ^ (as indicated clearly in the photo 2 posts up. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Digging has commenced in the alley between COE and Joey

    Taken from http://www.rogersplace.com/time-lapse/

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    I wonder why the alley is being dug first though? or if that dig even related to the new Joey? Anyone know?
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    If you're ripping up the asphalt, wouldn't you start at one side? And to be courteous as possible to the occupants of the Bell building during the day, start on the far side?
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    ^^ It could be just utility work for all I know. Which is why I'm asking.
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    Looks like utility work in the alley between Joey and COE sites, doesn't really look like construction for the Joey restaurant to my untrained eyes.
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    Technically there is no alley. The 'alley' is just a join use agreement between the two parties. So any working happening there will be either PCL for the tower or for Joeys, not the City of Edmonton themselves...

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    I work in the Bell tower, and when I walked by there today they were doing sewer work.

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    Well hopefully that is a start?
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    Looks like they're just working beneath the alley part now. Here's a better view:


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    I assume this is the reason for the Stop Work Order then.
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    That could easily be services relating to both (or either) project.

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    Not City infrastructure? I assumed so, and that the City wanted it done before both sides were UC.
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    Not city land. It's not an alley, it's an access easement agreement from both properties. I don't believe it's a utility easement too. If it's not a utility easement, then the utilties wouldn't belong to the City. I could be wrong.

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    well it makes sense to get whatever needs to be done there first. I hope that once this is done we'll start seeing work on the restaurant.
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    Last I saw, it looked like they were just finishing the utility work.
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    I still hope they will modify the aesthetic of this structure to connect it to Bell's. With the COE tower erecting and once finished, the current design will look odd in this space.

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    I ran into the prime for this job on friday. All hurdles have finally been cleared and the project is a full go
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    I still hope they will modify the aesthetic of this structure to connect it to Bell's. With the COE tower erecting and once finished, the current design will look odd in this space.
    I definitely dont mind its current look (wouldnt mind something taller), it will add more variety along the street by not aesthetically linking to the bell tower, something 101 st sorely needs as you pass the commerce place/manulife/ccm/sutton/oxford tower podiums that are large monolithic blocks that make the entire stretch look extremely bleak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonicboom View Post
    Bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonicboom View Post
    Bump.
    Side note: Looks like Joey's new restaurant in S.Park is going to open soon....

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    How long do the naming rights for the tower we now call the 'Bell Tower' last? Is there a chance naming rights could change hands in a few years leaving a glaringly misnamed restaurant?

    Then again, 'Bell' is neutral enough that it could slide... if you heard the words "Bell Tower" without knowing the context, one could imagine a carillon or church tower. Not that either of those exist onsite, but it's more timeless than "Joey ATB Tower".
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    Where's the new one in Sherwood Park?
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    ^^ I don't understand what the name of the building has to with it. Restaurant is still going to be called JOEY regardless of the tower name. Names like JOEY Jasper is only a locator.
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    ^It's part of Joey's brand/marketing, unlike an earls or moxies that may be located at specific place, Joey includes the location as part of that location's "name" (Joey South Common, Joey Mayfield, Joey Crowfoot etc...). It is labeled on their buildings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Where's the new one in Sherwood Park?
    In the same parking lot, right next to the A&W or Tim's. It's about time, that location was showing it's age.....

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    Aaand excavation has started:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective View Post
    ^It's part of Joey's brand/marketing, unlike an earls or moxies that may be located at specific place, Joey includes the location as part of that location's "name" (Joey South Common, Joey Mayfield, Joey Crowfoot etc...). It is labeled on their buildings
    It's also in the rendering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    ^^ I don't understand what the name of the building has to with it. Restaurant is still going to be called JOEY regardless of the tower name. Names like JOEY Jasper is only a locator.
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    148875584-003
    18-Mar-2015
    10104 - 103 AVENUE NW
    Plan 8021480 Blk 1 Lot B

    To construct an addition (Restaurant with 271 seats) to an existing office building. (Joey's Restaurant - Bell Tower)

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    The last thing this city needs is another joeys or earls or cactus club or moxies or the keg. We need local chefs opening up happening joints. A place that will update their menu more then once every 100 years. A restuarant that will take pride in what they serve. I'm so sick of the chains

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    The excavation work seems to have stopped again. Now what's going on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacs View Post
    The last thing this city needs is another joeys or earls or cactus club or moxies or the keg. We need local chefs opening up happening joints. A place that will update their menu more then once every 100 years. A restuarant that will take pride in what they serve. I'm so sick of the chains
    theres plenty of local fair, just look on the thread for places to eat.

    And some of those chains are loved by many, so to each their own i guess.
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    I'm not too worried about local chefs opening their own places. It's always good to have a mix of the two types of restaurants in this city. As the downtown core continues to develop and get bigger and bigger more restaurant spaces will become available.
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    I remember the elation Downtown when the first Tim Horton's opened in Commerce Place.

    Chains have their fans, quality locals have their fans.

    Several chains began as locals, too: Earl's (which also begat Cactus Club and Joey's) , BP's, Wok Box, Booster Juice, and looks like perhaps CHG has exit velocity as well? We'll see. Corso 32 is up to 4 locations, Tres Carnales has 2, Transcend has 3, Nate Box has 4. All good with me, if they're competitive, they're competitive. I want people who know what they're doing regardless how many locations they have.
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    Someone should remind Vacs and other anti-chain lobbyists that the Joey in question is not new, it's relocating. Case closed.

    Now, just waiting for one of the insiders to answer my question from post 181
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    ^ same pause as happened after nearly every non-PCL project after excavation? Different crew for diggers than pourers. Window for the diggers in case they're late.
    Let's make Edmonton better.

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    Semi-OT but did anyone know that Joey's owns the Local chain as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodmanza View Post
    Semi-OT but did anyone know that Joey's owns the Local chain as well?
    Yes. Joey's, Earls, Local, Cactus Club. Same group.
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    Wow that is some market cornering...

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodmanza View Post
    Semi-OT but did anyone know that Joey's owns the Local chain as well?
    Yes. Joey's, Earls, Local, Cactus Club. Same group.
    No wonder. Between them and Century Group every one of their restaurants seem the same. Same concept, decorative aspects, clientele.

    Went to a Joeys once and they put Edamame in the Salmon bowl. WTF?

    Unfit for human consumption. Some of these food establishments should research before latching onto the latest food fad. I got violently ill from Costco Edamame salad before I knew that essentially raw or not properly cooked Edamame can cause severe gastric distress and actually poison humans. Researched it later after having the clear adverse reaction to it.

    This is pig food, put on our plate. Sometimes I think some restaurants are just trying to find out how gullible people are. Or they simply don't have a clue and are just copping fads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodmanza View Post
    Semi-OT but did anyone know that Joey's owns the Local chain as well?
    Yes. Joey's, Earls, Local, Cactus Club. Same group.
    No wonder. Between them and Century Group every one of their restaurants seem the same. Same concept, decorative aspects, clientele.

    Went to a Joeys once and they put Edamame in the Salmon bowl. WTF?

    Unfit for human consumption. Some of these food establishments should research before latching onto the latest food fad. I got violently ill from Costco Edamame salad before I knew that essentially raw or not properly cooked Edamame can cause severe gastric distress and actually poison humans. Researched it later after having the clear adverse reaction to it.

    This is pig food, put on our plate. Sometimes I think some restaurants are just trying to find out how gullible people are. Or they simply don't have a clue and are just copping fads.
    Ah, yes our resident foodie snob.... Pig food?, obviously never been on a farm, holy crap man just a little over exaggeration or what??

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    Excavation has resumed again. Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenL2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodmanza View Post
    Semi-OT but did anyone know that Joey's owns the Local chain as well?
    Yes. Joey's, Earls, Local, Cactus Club. Same group.
    No wonder. Between them and Century Group every one of their restaurants seem the same. Same concept, decorative aspects, clientele.

    Went to a Joeys once and they put Edamame in the Salmon bowl. WTF?

    Unfit for human consumption. Some of these food establishments should research before latching onto the latest food fad. I got violently ill from Costco Edamame salad before I knew that essentially raw or not properly cooked Edamame can cause severe gastric distress and actually poison humans. Researched it later after having the clear adverse reaction to it.

    This is pig food, put on our plate. Sometimes I think some restaurants are just trying to find out how gullible people are. Or they simply don't have a clue and are just copping fads.
    Ah, yes our resident foodie snob.... Pig food?, obviously never been on a farm, holy crap man just a little over exaggeration or what??

    "...I can't believe they didn't use fresh cracked pink Sea Salt on my Pomme de Terre..."
    Raw or uncooked Edamame should not even remotely be considered fit for human consumption. Not sure why anybody would anyway as its putrid. Of course I associate it with vomiting so...

    and yes such things as broadbeans, Soybeans have been used to feed pigs. Maybe not as much here but in Europe. and around the globe.

    Not sure precisely what your issue with my post is other than I posted it.

    As for "food snob" not sure how that enters into things when all I would want is a sensible plate that might actually be good for me and surroundings that are unique and inviting. The restaurants cited feel so prefab manufactured out of a design book. They lack personal touch and warmth. jmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodmanza View Post
    Semi-OT but did anyone know that Joey's owns the Local chain as well?
    Yes. Joey's, Earls, Local, Cactus Club. Same group.
    No wonder. Between them and Century Group every one of their restaurants seem the same. Same concept, decorative aspects, clientele.
    I'd rather be buried in quality west coast chains than the magnificent crap coming from out east. Cara is pure crap and luckily fading away, while Prime Pubs is making a pathetic attempt to move in and failing miserably.
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    Interesting.

    What are some of Cara's and Prime Pubs' brands ?


    Actually Top_Dawg looked it up.

    Cara is mostly restaurant chains.

    And the only Prime Pubs brand Top_Dawg recognizes is Fionn's because he's been to the one in City Centre West.

    Yeah, neither one are anything spectacular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post
    Interesting.

    What are some of Cara's and Prime Pubs' brands ?
    Swiss Chalet, Milestone's, Montana's, Kelsey's, Harvey's, Bier Market, Casey's East Side Mario's, Fionn MacCool’s and D’Arcy McGee’s.

    I heard about this website that searches for things and gives you all the answers you could every dream of. If you use the world wide web or interwebs, try typing this into your Netscape browser, www.google.ca or http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cara+Canada+Brands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilman View Post
    I heard about this website that searches for things and gives you all the answers you could every dream of. If you use the world wide web or interwebs, try typing this into your Netscape browser, www.google.ca or http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cara+Canada+Brands


    Thanks Hilman,

    Top_Dawg is too used to having hiz bitches do all the work for him.

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    You'll have to get off the phone first, though, Top_Dawg.

    Not a fan of any of those offerings though I have never been to a Bier Market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodmanza View Post
    You'll have to get off the phone first, though, Top_Dawg.

    Not a fan of any of those offerings though I have never been to a Bier Market?

    Haha...too funny. that dawg cracks me up every time...

    Oh and Cara? yeah they are the ones responsible for the fine airplane food we eat on our fine airlines here in Canada.

    yummm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KenL2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodmanza View Post
    Semi-OT but did anyone know that Joey's owns the Local chain as well?
    Yes. Joey's, Earls, Local, Cactus Club. Same group.
    No wonder. Between them and Century Group every one of their restaurants seem the same. Same concept, decorative aspects, clientele.

    Went to a Joeys once and they put Edamame in the Salmon bowl. WTF?

    Unfit for human consumption. Some of these food establishments should research before latching onto the latest food fad. I got violently ill from Costco Edamame salad before I knew that essentially raw or not properly cooked Edamame can cause severe gastric distress and actually poison humans. Researched it later after having the clear adverse reaction to it.

    This is pig food, put on our plate. Sometimes I think some restaurants are just trying to find out how gullible people are. Or they simply don't have a clue and are just copping fads.
    Ah, yes our resident foodie snob.... Pig food?, obviously never been on a farm, holy crap man just a little over exaggeration or what??

    "...I can't believe they didn't use fresh cracked pink Sea Salt on my Pomme de Terre..."
    Raw or uncooked Edamame should not even remotely be considered fit for human consumption. Not sure why anybody would anyway as its putrid. Of course I associate it with vomiting so...

    and yes such things as broadbeans, Soybeans have been used to feed pigs. Maybe not as much here but in Europe. and around the globe.

    Not sure precisely what your issue with my post is other than I posted it.

    As for "food snob" not sure how that enters into things when all I would want is a sensible plate that might actually be good for me and surroundings that are unique and inviting. The restaurants cited feel so prefab manufactured out of a design book. They lack personal touch and warmth. jmo
    Well i look at it this way, I've never had an issue with any of the Fuller group restaurants and have been eating at them regularly since they began, my son has life threatening food allergies and they are fantastic at accommodating him so he can have a really great dining experience, we have even been comped meals at a few of them.

    Something that a LARGE number of the local fair or more cool looking places wouldn't even entertain as they feel its too much of a pain in the rump..

    Oh and I'd rather have quality food prepared were my kid won't die in a restaurant that looks like the fuller groups ones than a cool looking one with funky chairs and art and he ends up in the hospital.

    ...as I said though to each their own...

    had the edamame at Joeys, loved them, if they weren't cooked right why did you eat them...send them back... simple
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