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    Haha... yeah... that darn "enforcing laws" scam! Dammit, why do people fall for that scam?
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Seems like Ottawa could use some Photo Radar! misleading data and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post



    https://rjscity.blogspot.ca/2017/10/...ic-safety.html

    Whatever the underlying factors are causing this increase in major injury and fatality collisions, it is clear that the data strongly suggests that the removal of photo radar has greatly increased the rate of major injury and fatal accidents. In other words, the roads are less safe than before photo radar was removed.
    More misleading data, and all.

    These accidents could have been a result of texting or drunk driving -- which a photo radar unit wouldn't have made any difference.
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    That's certainly possible, that we're getting more distracted. It's also likely that a distracted driving crash at 55 is likely to be less severe than one at 60 or 65.

    That's just as likely as your hypothesis.
    There can only be one.

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    no hypothesis needed comparing Edmonton to Ottawa, unless we really are terrible drivers compared to them

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    While Sherwood Park doesn't use photo radar (they do on red-light cameras) they do have speed traps, tend to set them up in construction zones and along various parts of AHD and Yellowhead. I haven't seen them in school or playground zones, but I don't drive much in those areas during school times.

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    I'm fine with speed traps. I'm actually OK with the speed-on-green cams and red light cams too. It's the Henday and hidden-trucks on free flowing roads that are BS. It doesn't need to be completely removed, just massively overhauled.
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/3738318/e...speeding-less/

    Revenue down by 3 Million...

    Iveson says "The system is working."

    I'm not surprised. The cash influx from the unannounced lowering of the "fudge factor" is drying up, and drivers who were caught unaware by the new enforcement policy have wised up. I don't see any real gains in traffic safety.
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    I'm terrified of average speed cameras | DriveTribe

    https://drivetribe.com/p/im-terrifie...RsCbE4yI3lDBjg

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    Alberta's review on photo radar

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/photo-radar-review-alberta-mason-1.5028016


    Found this stat interesting:
    "The third-party review found photo radar has a marginal contribution to traffic safety, reducing collisions rates by only 1.4 per cent."
    Last edited by trick91; 21-02-2019 at 02:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trick91 View Post
    Alberta's review on photo radar

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/photo-radar-review-alberta-mason-1.5028016


    Found this stat interesting:
    "The third-party review found photo radar has a marginal contribution to traffic safety, reducing collisions rates by only 1.4 per cent."
    Lol CoE is the worst offender in sure. We have something like 1100 phot radar locations in the city. Iím sure our mayor will be trying to justify our past use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by trick91 View Post
    Alberta's review on photo radar

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/photo-radar-review-alberta-mason-1.5028016


    Found this stat interesting:
    "The third-party review found photo radar has a marginal contribution to traffic safety, reducing collisions rates by only 1.4 per cent."
    Lol CoE is the worst offender in sure. We have something like 1100 phot radar locations in the city. Iím sure our mayor will be trying to justify our past use.
    272 in Edmonton vs 950 in Calgary.

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    Edmonton generated 12 million more in revenue even with fewer locations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by trick91 View Post
    Alberta's review on photo radar

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/photo-radar-review-alberta-mason-1.5028016


    Found this stat interesting:
    "The third-party review found photo radar has a marginal contribution to traffic safety, reducing collisions rates by only 1.4 per cent."
    Lol CoE is the worst offender in sure. We have something like 1100 phot radar locations in the city. Iím sure our mayor will be trying to justify our past use.
    272 in Edmonton vs 950 in Calgary.
    Edmonton has way less locations and way higher revenue. Because the CoE is perfectly happy slapping as many trucks on the Henday and the 16/2 deceleration lanes as they can. Those would generate massive revenues. Calgary on the other hand appears to actually use photo radar to, you know, discourage speeding in high collision locations. Not highways/freeways that have minuscule injury accident rates relative to their volume of traffic compared to arterial roads.

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    I'm OK with photo radar just not the entrapment style. For example, I was driving on 118 ave east bound by Northland. As I was driving at 50 km at 1:00 am, I took my foot off the gas approaching the hill where the train track crosses; my speed reached 59 or so km at the bottom and that was where they stationed the camera; another example is placing a camera right after where the traffic sign display a traffic speed change. This type of trap is equal to theft. I rather thieves blatantly steal from me than this type of charade where they steal from you but make you feel like criminals just to justify their nefarious agenda. It is an insult to our intelligence imo.
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    ^ I'm with you. Heavier fines for the most dangerous locations, school zones and the like. Ring fence that money for road safety improvements such as pedestrian lights - wasn't there a report recently where the city said there are 200+ crossings that were classed as dangerous and it would take years to complete. Use photo radar revenues for that.

    Parking a photo radar on #2 where the speed drops from 110 to 90 is plain wrong, unless there is a demonstrated safety issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by trick91 View Post
    Alberta's review on photo radar

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/photo-radar-review-alberta-mason-1.5028016


    Found this stat interesting:
    "The third-party review found photo radar has a marginal contribution to traffic safety, reducing collisions rates by only 1.4 per cent."
    Lol CoE is the worst offender in sure. We have something like 1100 phot radar locations in the city. Iím sure our mayor will be trying to justify our past use.
    272 in Edmonton vs 950 in Calgary.
    If thatís true my bad..I was listening to people talk about so I didnít have an actual article to go back to or reference. I know they pointed out Edmonton was exceptional (not in a good way.)

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