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    can anyone tell me why this POS is still standing?

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    i will do the happiest of happy dances when i see it come down

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    There was speculation and rumour that the land was sold to or in partnership with a HK or Chinese developer to do a major redevelopment with residential condos.

    Unfortunate that it is just stagnant for it was a decent dim sum place and busy wedding venue.
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    I believe it was sold several years ago

    Haven't heard much since. The building is in rough shape and has some structural problems, but for now it is holding up.

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    thanks for the replies. i think it was operational until some sort of gang shooting at a wedding reception a few years back. i think it is now holding the neighbourhood back and making the area harder to develop. figured it's just sitting there waiting for the land to gain value like every other eyesore lot.

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    It was a decent dim sum place. However, I can't stand this building, and mentally block it out every time I drive by. I will also do the happiest of happy dances when it comes down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    thanks for the replies. i think it was operational until some sort of gang shooting at a wedding reception a few years back. i think it is now holding the neighbourhood back and making the area harder to develop. figured it's just sitting there waiting for the land to gain value like every other eyesore lot.
    Not related to the closing I don't believe, multiple shootings occurred there over the years.
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    haha "multiple shootings" and "not related to closing" in the same sentence - my brain doesn't readily process that. i'm hoping the lrt and this corners 1 tower proposal push the owner into developing this property in around the same time. but i won't hold my breath. if they're from HK it'll probably be the last piece of land to see action

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    Multiple shooting over the years, ie. 20yrs. We went many times, for many events, enjoyed ourselves and had no issues. Shootings were not random.

    From what I recall this was purely a redevelopment closure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Multiple shooting over the years, ie. 20yrs. We went many times, for many events, enjoyed ourselves and had no issues. Shootings were not random.

    From what I recall this was purely a redevelopment closure.
    That is also my understanding. I quite miss my inexpensive dim sum...of mediocre quality but at that price point I was there every 2 weeks.

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    I get we have to put up with slum lord land speculators but could we please enforce some standard of cleanliness. The torn signage is unsightly and for gord sakes could they be forced to clean up the debris blowing around their parking lot.

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    That same standard of cleanliness should be enforced all the way up 95th street to the tracks. There are buildings that look just as bad that aren't even abandoned.

    It would be even better if it's redeveloped and it included the two restaurants in the adjacent lot. Nothing wrong with the restaurants but that corner should be so much more.

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    ^The same standard of cleanliness should be enforced along Jasper ave., Whyte, and many, many more.

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    I heard you can get a good Molotov Cocktail their

    Kidding aside.

    Big eye sore downtown. This kind of blight downtown should not be tolerated.

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    It's been closed for nearly 5 years has it not? The big horrific murders were the two weddings of rival gangs being held there on the same date. One of the grooms left in a body bag with a knife in his head if I recall correctly. My good friend was working for a body removal service that year and I recall the details being gruesome. Great location just waiting for the bulldozer.

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    ^ or a wrecking ball... or a fire... or explosives. anything really. I'd take an empty site over this if i had a choice. i think it closed soon after the incident you're talking about but to let it sit this long in such an area of potential is a true disappointment

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    The wedding incident was like 10 years ago now. Not sure it closed that soon after but definitely had been gone a long time. Someone has a prime piece of property with amazing river valley views if they do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Knuckles View Post
    I heard you can get a good Molotov Cocktail their

    Kidding aside.

    Big eye sore downtown. This kind of blight downtown should not be tolerated.
    1. There.

    2. not downtown
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    ^ Near downtown

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    It's downtown. It's not in Downtown, however. The adjective applies, not the proper noun.

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    Great location. I see it sitting another 5-10 before it gets re-developed tho
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    Concur... LRT and Corner 1 done.
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    of course a condo development would be good but i was thinking it would be great to integrate a urban grocery/convenience/drug store on that site as well once maybe corners 2 is in the area. or even maybe another restaurant to add to the mix or a tech place like best buy or london drugs or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    of course a condo development would be good but i was thinking it would be great to integrate a urban grocery/convenience/drug store on that site as well once maybe corners 2 is in the area. or even maybe another restaurant to add to the mix or a tech place like best buy or london drugs or something.
    Main floor retail will happen no matter what. My guess would be condos largely due to the property's river views once you get up a half dozen floors they would be spectacular. It won't have much of a downtown view with the future Corners 2 across 95 Street from the Mirama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    of course a condo development would be good but i was thinking it would be great to integrate a urban grocery/convenience/drug store on that site as well once maybe corners 2 is in the area. or even maybe another restaurant to add to the mix or a tech place like best buy or london drugs or something.
    Once upon a time that was a Safeway, I think. Just recalling old pics from the 50s.
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    ^ That it was. My uncle used to be the manager of that store back in the mid-60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
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    I heard you can get a good Molotov Cocktail their

    Kidding aside.

    Big eye sore downtown. This kind of blight downtown should not be tolerated.
    1. There.

    2. not downtown
    1. Correct lol.

    2. Yup Downtown my friend. 95 St is your friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ or a wrecking ball... or a fire... or explosives. anything really. I'd take an empty site over this if i had a choice. i think it closed soon after the incident you're talking about but to let it sit this long in such an area of potential is a true disappointment
    I don't know what you're talking about. This is area is just now starting to show potential. Once the hotel comes to completion, I hope it will spur all aspects of changes. Area wise, i find it to have great fengshui.

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    I do love the five colour bowl at the Trang Tien

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    my favorite pho place.

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    Hearing the the Mirama site might be sold to a developer in Edmonton who is currently doing a few projects. If so, that would be incredibly positive.
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    omg....is....is it christmas already??

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    Isn’t this that place on the east side that had a kill bill style gang related wedding massacre a few years back?

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    that's the one
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    More than just a few years ago now. More like 15.

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    Demo permit issued, work started.
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    Celebration time!!
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    Is is sold?
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    Great news! Even a flat lot is better than the dilapidated building that was there.
    Whatever is built there should have some pretty good views.

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    been seeing some workers on site wondering what was up. good to know it's moving forward one way or another. the site is quite big. could have 2 towers there maybe??
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    i think its safe to say public transit (in this case a train) spurs more development than an arena.
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    fuuuuuuq yesssss
    it's happening!!!!!

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    Plans for the site to be revealed sometime next year, according to CTV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    There go my wedding plans.
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    Many wedding memories from over the years.

    Looking forward to seeing what's planned for that site.
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    Yeah I wanted a kill bill themed wedding.

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    Glad someone who has a stake in the site is the one doing the demo. The last thing that area needs is another empty lot for the next ten years.

    But Cidex certainly isn't going to want a massive gravel lot beside their new condo, so the have some good incentive to get something going.

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    Does anyone know if they purchased the plot west of Mirama as well?
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    the listing included the adjacent site to the west



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    Mirama Site - SOLD


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    DESCRIPTION
    The Mirama Mall and adjacent sites is comprised over 1.5 acres of prime land with river valley views within the Quarters Downtown ARP. It is currently zoned (DC1) – Direct Control Provision (FQ) Five Corners High Density Quarter with a maximum of 45 stories with an FAR of 11.0. Close proximity to downtown core and also minutes from numerous amenities such as City Centre Mall, Edmonton Public Library, hotels, a number of restaurants and multiple financial institutions.

    FEATURES
    Over 1.5 acres of prime land with river valley views within the Quarters Downtown ARP
    Holding income via the Moth Café and Syphay Restaurant
    Located immediately on 95 street and Jasper Avenue
    Zoned (DC1) – Direct Control Provision (FQ) Five Corners High Density Quarter
    Maximum of 45 stories with an FAR of 11.0
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    Site Area: 67,616 SF
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    I hope Moth is able to move nearby (may be in the under construction Cidex buildling)
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    My guess is that this is mid-term in terms of redevelopment.
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    Actually it would be nice if Moth had to move, that maybe it could move to the main floor of the hotel just down the road. Would probably be a good thing for both parties concerned.
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    Look at all those lots in The Quarters just waiting for redevelopment! That old Edmonton Springs site and that empty field behind the old Hyatt are just screaming for something to happen.

    Still love that Cidex wants to make this little area their own. I'm sure they have their eyes on other vacant lots around there too.

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    The lot you are referring to behind the Hyatt is currently pending sale. Agreed, it would be great to build on the little bit of momentum we are seeing in this area.


    source: https://www.edmonton.ca/business_eco...-listings.aspx



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    The folks who have that pending are hoping to move a residential/mixed use project forward.
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    Well there is definitely some momentum gaining in the area, although I'm still going to be cautiously optimistic how much further this whole area is going to change and how long it will take for it to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleitalyeg View Post
    The lot you are referring to behind the Hyatt is currently pending sale. Agreed, it would be great to build on the little bit of momentum we are seeing in this area. source: https://www.edmonton.ca/business_eco...-listings.aspx
    Nice! Good to see movement happening there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    Well there is definitely some momentum gaining in the area, although I'm still going to be cautiously optimistic how much further this whole area is going to change and how long it will take for it to happen.
    This is a generation long development and we are but halfway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
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    Well there is definitely some momentum gaining in the area, although I'm still going to be cautiously optimistic how much further this whole area is going to change and how long it will take for it to happen.
    This is a generation long development and we are but halfway.
    Half way...1/10th?

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    ...into a 25yr redevelopment cycle.
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    Well it seems a bit longer to me. I've been following the possible redevelopment of the area ever since the Old Towne Market proposal in the 80's.

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    It’s a very strange experience driving by that site now that the building is gone. It’s really nice to see through to the river valley behind it.

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    1/10? 25 years? Realistically, 1/20 and 50 year goal are more reasonable. We forget there are ample of empty lots remaining all over the core. If one can show me an inward trend of high migration, 25 years is a wish. Our boom barely did a dent to downtown during a gestation period of 15 years and we expect this area to be done in 25 years after the boom is over? Be reasonable and anything above that expectation is a bonus is the best approach. Had this been the only focus area for the core...
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    IanO is just being hopeful.

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    I went to the original presentations of The Quarters redevelopment and zoning plans. I still remember sitting beside Janice Melnychuk and Don Iveson and when I asked about the 15 or 18 buildings planned that were over 30 stories, whether they were office buildings or residential towers, the presenter was not sure. I turned to Janice and she turned to me and I said "that few buildings over 25 stories had been built in 25 years.", Janice said; "More like 30 years"

    I don't see 8 or 9, 30+ story buildings up yet so we are nowhere near halfway through the development. There are tons of vacant lots, parking lots, old rooming houses and other bulldozer bait that have not change in decades. The Quarters are coming along nicely but in this economic climate, we should be thankful that building cranes are hard at work.


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    This area needs to be a priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prairie Boy View Post
    This area needs to be a priority.
    Yes.

    Please put it on the pile of priorities, just under the Old Fort Road TOD file, the Northlands TOD file, Blatchford development file, Bonnie Doon TOD file, Holyrood development file, Strathearn, Century Park, the Downtown Park, Valley line, Metro line, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Prairie Boy View Post
    This area needs to be a priority.
    Yes.

    Please put it on the pile of priorities, just under the Old Fort Road TOD file, the Northlands TOD file, Blatchford development file, Bonnie Doon TOD file, Holyrood development file, Strathearn, Century Park, the Downtown Park, Valley line, Metro line, etc.


    Perhaps TIF to get things going. I could care less about projects outside of downtown (to a degree). Downtown is the heart of a city, and if Calgary could transform the East Village, we should be able to emulate that with the Quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Prairie Boy View Post
    This area needs to be a priority.
    Yes.

    Please put it on the pile of priorities, just under the Old Fort Road TOD file, the Northlands TOD file, Blatchford development file, Bonnie Doon TOD file, Holyrood development file, Strathearn, Century Park, the Downtown Park, Valley line, Metro line, etc.

    Why are you bitching about Bonnie Doone?

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