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    The song was written in the 1940s, when people courted (not "dated") before marriage and women had curfews to follow. In the song, the young lovers are actually hatching a scheme to break the rules.

    Read the lyrics in context and it tells this story - the woman really DOES want to stay late with her love, but it's almost her curfew. She tells him that if she stays she fears that the neighbors will gossip, her family will be angry and scold her, etc. (which are all things that people do if they think a woman is being promiscuous).

    So in response, he tries coming up with some excuses she can use to stay together for the night - it's too cold, there are no cabs, there's too much of a blizzard, the snow's too deep, she might get pneumonia, etc. As the song goes on she starts to come up with her own excuses to try, i.e. that there's "something" in her drink (even though there isn't!).

    By the end of the song, once the man and woman finally agree on the best excuse to use for her to stay over, they sing "Baby it's cold outside!" TOGETHER in the final line.

    This song cute, romantic, and a bit "naughty" because the young lovers are breaking the expected social rules of the day and using the cold weather as an excuse to do it.


    For anyone who believes this song is about rape, well you need to seriously check your head because your thoughts exist is in a VERY dark place.

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    Other song lyrics...

    excerpts from my classics collection

    The Who - Dr. Jimmy

    What is it? I'll take it.
    Who is she? I'll rape it.
    Got a bet there? I'll meet it.
    Getting High? You can't beat it.


    Doctor Jimmy and mister Jim
    When I'm pilled you don't notice him,
    He only comes out when I drink my gin.
    You say she's a virgin.
    I'm gonna be the first in.
    Her fellah's gonna kill me?
    Oh *ucking will he.
    I'm seeing double
    But don't miss me if you can.
    There's gonna be trouble
    When she choses her man.
    Jethro Tull - Aqualung
    Sitting on a park bench
    Eying little girls with bad intent
    Snots running down his nose
    Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes, hey, Aqualung
    Drying in the cold sun
    Watching as the frilly panties run, hey, Aqualung
    Feeling like a dead duck
    Spitting out pieces of his broken luck, oh, Aqualung
    Tom Waits - Pasties and a G-String

    And a fish-net stocking, spike-heel shoes,
    Strip tease, prick tease, car keys blues
    And the porno floor show, live nude girls,
    Dreamy and creamy and brunette curls
    Chesty Morgan and Watermelon Rose
    Raise my rent and take off all your clothes
    With trench coats, magazines, a bottle full of rum,
    She's so good, make a dead man come
    Devil Doll - The Way You Do

    No one makes me feel the way you do
    No one lays me down the way you do
    I got a bit more curl in my heel when you get through
    And the way you keep your eyes on mine until we're through



    I said no one makes me feel the way you do
    Just name the time and place and I'll meet you
    I can't get that kind of loving where I'm from
    'Cause this is how with you my bell was rung
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    Classic Christmas Album to play at this year's Office Party...



    Tracklist
    A1 Hang Your Balls On The Christmas Tree
    A2 I Want A Casting Couch For Christmas
    A3 Come On Santa, Let's Have A Ball
    A4 The Night Before Christmas Binge
    A5 Santa's Doing The Horizontal Twist
    A6 Santa's Going To Be Late Tonight
    A7 The Girls Were All Happy
    A8 I Know What You Want For Xmas
    A Funtastic Panorama Of On-Stage Humor
    B1 Girls Should Be Obscene Not Heard
    B2 Up Your Chimney
    B3 Newlyweds In Bed
    B4 Uncle Fred & Aunty Mabel
    B5 I Knew He Was Coming
    B6 The Hard Chest Rub
    B7 He Loves To Bang Those Bells
    B8 Minnie The College Widow
    B9 She Laid The Cornerstone
    B10 The Sex Life Of The Camel
    B11 You're Dead If You Don't Dig It
    B12 It's Sex, Sex, Sex
    B13 They're Not Playing Chess Anymore
    B14 I Used To Give It Away, But Now I Have To Buy It
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The song was written in the 1940s, when people courted (not "dated") before marriage and women had curfews to follow. In the song, the young lovers are actually hatching a scheme to break the rules.

    Read the lyrics in context and it tells this story - the woman really DOES want to stay late with her love, but it's almost her curfew. She tells him that if she stays she fears that the neighbors will gossip, her family will be angry and scold her, etc. (which are all things that people do if they think a woman is being promiscuous).

    So in response, he tries coming up with some excuses she can use to stay together for the night - it's too cold, there are no cabs, there's too much of a blizzard, the snow's too deep, she might get pneumonia, etc. As the song goes on she starts to come up with her own excuses to try, i.e. that there's "something" in her drink (even though there isn't!).

    By the end of the song, once the man and woman finally agree on the best excuse to use for her to stay over, they sing "Baby it's cold outside!" TOGETHER in the final line.

    This song cute, romantic, and a bit "naughty" because the young lovers are breaking the expected social rules of the day and using the cold weather as an excuse to do it.


    For anyone who believes this song is about rape, well you need to seriously check your head because your thoughts exist is in a VERY dark place.

    Exactly, as an adult, I don't need to be censored, a novel idea is to turn off the radio etc when the song is on..*gasp*

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    At post 1103...

    Just going by the titles, I'm pretty sure that most of those songs would NOT be played on the radio, at least not during the daytime. And that this would have been the case long before any concerns about "political correctness" or "gender sensitivity" came along.

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    So you're saying that privately owned radio stations have the right to determine which songs they play? What a crazy idea.

    I imagine that a lot of people complaining about stations not playing Baby, it's cold outside had no problem with stations pulling the Dixie Chicks because the said they were embarrassed GW Bush was from Texas or Clear Channel banning songs they deemed inappropriate after 9/11.

    The list contains 165 suggestions, including a single suggestion for all songs by Rage Against the Machine as well as certain songs recorded by multiple artists (for example "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" by Guns N' Roses and the original version by Bob Dylan).[4] In some cases, only certain versions of songs were included on the list. For example, the cover of "Smooth Criminal" by Alien Ant Farm is on the list while the original Michael Jackson recording is not. Similarly, J. Frank Wilson's version of "Last Kiss" is included, but Pearl Jam's cover is not. Also, Martha and the Vandellas's original version of "Dancing in the Street" and Van Halen's version are included; David Bowie and Mick Jagger's recording was excluded from the list. Also, the song "Leaving on a Jet Plane" by Peter, Paul, and Mary is included, but the version by the song's composer John Denver is not. AC/DC has the most individual songs listed, with seven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The song was written in the 1940s, when people courted (not "dated") before marriage and women had curfews to follow. In the song, the young lovers are actually hatching a scheme to break the rules.

    Read the lyrics in context and it tells this story - the woman really DOES want to stay late with her love, but it's almost her curfew. She tells him that if she stays she fears that the neighbors will gossip, her family will be angry and scold her, etc. (which are all things that people do if they think a woman is being promiscuous).

    So in response, he tries coming up with some excuses she can use to stay together for the night - it's too cold, there are no cabs, there's too much of a blizzard, the snow's too deep, she might get pneumonia, etc. As the song goes on she starts to come up with her own excuses to try, i.e. that there's "something" in her drink (even though there isn't!).

    By the end of the song, once the man and woman finally agree on the best excuse to use for her to stay over, they sing "Baby it's cold outside!" TOGETHER in the final line.

    This song cute, romantic, and a bit "naughty" because the young lovers are breaking the expected social rules of the day and using the cold weather as an excuse to do it.


    For anyone who believes this song is about rape, well you need to seriously check your head because your thoughts exist is in a VERY dark place.

    Exactly, as an adult, I don't need to be censored, a novel idea is to turn off the radio etc when the song is on..*gasp*
    So, if a radio station decides to play Maclean and Maclean's "F*ck Ya"(the lyrics basically consist of those words repeated over and over again, along with a threat to "kick you in the nuts") at 2:00 on a Saturday afternoon, the only response neccessary is to switch the station?

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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    At post 1103...

    Just going by the titles, I'm pretty sure that most of those songs would NOT be played on the radio, at least not during the daytime. And that this would have been the case long before any concerns about "political correctness" or "gender sensitivity" came along.
    As a kid in the early 70's, going to Safeway with my parents , I was always appalled by some of the songs played in the store. Frank Sinatra singing Mack the Knife and some other gruesome songs.

    On the sidewalk, one Sunday morningLies a body, oozin' life
    Someone's sneaking 'round the corner
    Could that someone perhaps per chance be Mack the Knife?


    From a tugboat, on the river going slow
    A cement bag it is dropping on down
    Yeah the cement is just for the weight dear
    You can make a large bet Mackie's back in town
    My man Louis Miller, he split the scene babe

    My man Louis Miller, he split the scene babeAfter drawing out all the bread from his stash
    Now Macheath spends like a pimp babe
    Do you suppose that our boy, he's did something rash
    I have heard both Aqualung and Dr. Jimmy in Safeway as well as on the radio very often, day and night.

    But if you want a lot of sex, violence and politically incorrect speech, just turn on the TV to almost any movie (Just saw Hollowman on TV. Really a bad slasher movie not worth watching.) or just watch anything about Trump...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    I don't think you have to be a pearl-clutching prude to think that some things are appropriate for radio play at 2:00 in the afternoon, and some things aren't. This very website that we are on blocks certain words from being posted, even though many of us use them every day(trust me, no one swears worse than I do), presumbaly because some people might take offense.

    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The song was written in the 1940s, when people courted (not "dated") before marriage and women had curfews to follow. In the song, the young lovers are actually hatching a scheme to break the rules.

    Read the lyrics in context and it tells this story - the woman really DOES want to stay late with her love, but it's almost her curfew. She tells him that if she stays she fears that the neighbors will gossip, her family will be angry and scold her, etc. (which are all things that people do if they think a woman is being promiscuous).

    So in response, he tries coming up with some excuses she can use to stay together for the night - it's too cold, there are no cabs, there's too much of a blizzard, the snow's too deep, she might get pneumonia, etc. As the song goes on she starts to come up with her own excuses to try, i.e. that there's "something" in her drink (even though there isn't!).

    By the end of the song, once the man and woman finally agree on the best excuse to use for her to stay over, they sing "Baby it's cold outside!" TOGETHER in the final line.

    This song cute, romantic, and a bit "naughty" because the young lovers are breaking the expected social rules of the day and using the cold weather as an excuse to do it.


    For anyone who believes this song is about rape, well you need to seriously check your head because your thoughts exist is in a VERY dark place.

    Exactly, as an adult, I don't need to be censored, a novel idea is to turn off the radio etc when the song is on..*gasp*
    So, if a radio station decides to play Maclean and Maclean's "F*ck Ya"(the lyrics basically consist of those words repeated over and over again, along with a threat to "kick you in the nuts") at 2:00 on a Saturday afternoon, the only response necessary is to switch the station?
    I certainly won't become a snowflake and winge at the station.You sound like you may though, hint, there are other stations..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
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    I don't think you have to be a pearl-clutching prude to think that some things are appropriate for radio play at 2:00 in the afternoon, and some things aren't. This very website that we are on blocks certain words from being posted, even though many of us use them every day(trust me, no one swears worse than I do), presumbaly because some people might take offense.

    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
    Gosh, how old is this song? Whatever did they do before it was banned? Listen to it? Sing along.? I'm having a sweatshirt made up, with Baby it's cold outside , on it.. I said this to my postie today, she burst out laughing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
    I'm with H.L. on this. Change the station. When did we start talking about every song ever written? I think your issue is with the CRTC. If it's on the radio chances are it passed through their hands; Christmas or otherwise. If a station wants to ban a song, ban it. Don't try to sell it as they are the moral compass for society and fabricate a bunch of BS on the why's. Thanks, I'm good.
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    Courtship 'Rules' Women And Men Were Forced To Follow In The 1950s

    https://www.littlethings.com/1950s-dating-rules/


    A Brief History of Courtship and Dating in America, Part 2 - Boundless

    https://www.boundless.org/relationsh...merica-part-2/



    The Freedom to Choose – Courtship in the 1920s - The Old Shelter

    https://theoldshelter.com/freedom-ch...urtship-1920s/
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpeters View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
    I'm with H.L. on this. Change the station. When did we start talking about every song ever written? I think your issue is with the CRTC. If it's on the radio chances are it passed through their hands; Christmas or otherwise. If a station wants to ban a song, ban it. Don't try to sell it as they are the moral compass for society and fabricate a bunch of BS on the why's. Thanks, I'm good.
    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
    I'm with H.L. on this. Change the station. When did we start talking about every song ever written? I think your issue is with the CRTC. If it's on the radio chances are it passed through their hands; Christmas or otherwise. If a station wants to ban a song, ban it. Don't try to sell it as they are the moral compass for society and fabricate a bunch of BS on the why's. Thanks, I'm good.
    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.
    From my incoming e-femail (no source provided):
    1. I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus: subjecting minors to softcore porn
    2. The Christmas Song: Open fire? Pollution. Folks dressed up like Eskimos? Cultural appropriation
    3. Holly Jolly Christmas: Kiss her once for me? Unwanted advances
    4. White Christmas? Racist
    5. Santa Claus is Coming to Town: Sees you when you’re sleeping? Knows when you’re awake? Peeping Tom stalker
    6. Most Wonderful Time of the Year: Everyone telling you be of good cheer? Forced to hide depression
    7. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: Bullying
    8. It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas: Forced gender-specific gifts: dolls for Janice and Jen and boots and pistols (GUNS!) for Barney and Ben
    9. Santa Baby: Gold digger, blackmail
    10. Frosty the Snowman: Sexist; not a snow woman
    11. Do You Hear What I Hear: blatant disregard for the hearing impaired
    12. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas: Make the yuletide GAY? Wow, just wow
    13. Jingle Bell Rock: Giddy up jingle horse, pick up your feet: animal abuse
    14. Mistletoe and Holly: Overeating, folks stealing a kiss or two? How did this song ever see the light of day?
    15. Winter Wonderland: Parson Brown demanding they get married…forced partnership

    Oh, by the way, radio stations don’t decide. The people running radio stations decide.
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    20 politically incorrect songs that'd be wildly controversial today
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
    I'm with H.L. on this. Change the station. When did we start talking about every song ever written? I think your issue is with the CRTC. If it's on the radio chances are it passed through their hands; Christmas or otherwise. If a station wants to ban a song, ban it. Don't try to sell it as they are the moral compass for society and fabricate a bunch of BS on the why's. Thanks, I'm good.
    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.
    From my incoming e-femail (no source provided):
    1. I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus: subjecting minors to softcore porn
    2. The Christmas Song: Open fire? Pollution. Folks dressed up like Eskimos? Cultural appropriation
    3. Holly Jolly Christmas: Kiss her once for me? Unwanted advances
    4. White Christmas? Racist
    5. Santa Claus is Coming to Town: Sees you when you’re sleeping? Knows when you’re awake? Peeping Tom stalker
    6. Most Wonderful Time of the Year: Everyone telling you be of good cheer? Forced to hide depression
    7. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: Bullying
    8. It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas: Forced gender-specific gifts: dolls for Janice and Jen and boots and pistols (GUNS!) for Barney and Ben
    9. Santa Baby: Gold digger, blackmail
    10. Frosty the Snowman: Sexist; not a snow woman
    11. Do You Hear What I Hear: blatant disregard for the hearing impaired
    12. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas: Make the yuletide GAY? Wow, just wow
    13. Jingle Bell Rock: Giddy up jingle horse, pick up your feet: animal abuse
    14. Mistletoe and Holly: Overeating, folks stealing a kiss or two? How did this song ever see the light of day?
    15. Winter Wonderland: Parson Brown demanding they get married…forced partnership

    Oh, by the way, radio stations don’t decide. The people running radio stations decide.
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    I always thought that mommy kissing Santa klaas was because it was their dad dressed up as Santa but they didn’t know that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I always thought that mommy kissing Santa klaas was because it was their dad dressed up as Santa but they didn’t know that
    That's what I was always told. The climactic line "What a laugh it would have been, if daddy had only seen..." wouldn't pack the same ironic punch if mommy really WAS kissing Santa Claus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
    I'm with H.L. on this. Change the station. When did we start talking about every song ever written? I think your issue is with the CRTC. If it's on the radio chances are it passed through their hands; Christmas or otherwise. If a station wants to ban a song, ban it. Don't try to sell it as they are the moral compass for society and fabricate a bunch of BS on the why's. Thanks, I'm good.
    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.
    From my incoming e-femail (no source provided):
    1. I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus: subjecting minors to softcore porn
    2. The Christmas Song: Open fire? Pollution. Folks dressed up like Eskimos? Cultural appropriation
    3. Holly Jolly Christmas: Kiss her once for me? Unwanted advances
    4. White Christmas? Racist
    5. Santa Claus is Coming to Town: Sees you when you’re sleeping? Knows when you’re awake? Peeping Tom stalker
    6. Most Wonderful Time of the Year: Everyone telling you be of good cheer? Forced to hide depression
    7. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: Bullying
    8. It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas: Forced gender-specific gifts: dolls for Janice and Jen and boots and pistols (GUNS!) for Barney and Ben
    9. Santa Baby: Gold digger, blackmail
    10. Frosty the Snowman: Sexist; not a snow woman
    11. Do You Hear What I Hear: blatant disregard for the hearing impaired
    12. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas: Make the yuletide GAY? Wow, just wow
    13. Jingle Bell Rock: Giddy up jingle horse, pick up your feet: animal abuse
    14. Mistletoe and Holly: Overeating, folks stealing a kiss or two? How did this song ever see the light of day?
    15. Winter Wonderland: Parson Brown demanding they get married…forced partnership

    Oh, by the way, radio stations don’t decide. The people running radio stations decide.
    Well, yeah. You own the station, you get to decide what to play. Of course, there is input from listeners, advertisers, etc, but(apart from CRTC or CBSC interventions), it's the owners who make the final call.

    And really, the argument about "Just switch the station..." works both ways. If you're upset because a station ISN'T playing Baby It's Cold Outside, find a station that is, and listen to that one.

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    Odd discussion going nowhere. **** what the ****, *****, *** *******

    Wait I wanted to express something, but I got censored on the very ******* site that this ******* conversation it ******* taking place...

    My own pet peeve is channels that show movies and programs that censor swear words, replace them arbitrarily with words not in the original, or just beep them out. In some programs its hard to catch even what the dialog is when they start doing that and like the above line theres several censored words right in there.

    I think a station should give notice when they adulterate works of art with whatever pablum they throw in there as substitute.

    Also, really, do I need to watch Planes, Trains and Automobiles and see the word you're ****** replaces with you;'re screwed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Odd discussion going nowhere. **** what the ****, *****, *** *******

    Wait I wanted to express something, but I got censored on the very ******* site that this ******* conversation it ******* taking place...

    My own pet peeve is channels that show movies and programs that censor swear words, replace them arbitrarily with words not in the original, or just beep them out. In some programs its hard to catch even what the dialog is when they start doing that and like the above line theres several censored words right in there.

    I think a station should give notice when they adulterate works of art with whatever pablum they throw in there as substitute.

    Also, really, do I need to watch Planes, Trains and Automobiles and see the word you're ****** replaces with you;'re screwed?
    I'm 100% with you on the bowdlerization of movies on TV. If you don't want to take a work of art on its own terms, fine. Just don't show it, then.

    But such desecration is nothing new. My high school English department in the mid-80s used bowdlerized editions of Shakespeare. My favorite teacher was an old priest who, when it came to the supposedly offensive passages in Macbeth, would put the assigned text down, pull out an intact version, and read from that, fully explaining what the excised passage meant.

    Thing is, though, the people those textbooks were pandering to weren't the left-wing snowflakes of their day. They were the Bible Belt, figuratively if not geographically, IOW the same people who often complain when something THEY like(eg. prayers) are taken out of school.

    EDIT: Oh, and I agree that the media should inform the reader/viewer/listener when something has been cut out. Though I'm not sure how you'd go about enforcing that, since if the owner of the material agrees to the cut, there's probably not a lot the government can do.
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    The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982)
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    The use of the word "Whorehouse" in the title caused controversy. In Canada, TV ads for the film bleeped the word, and in some locales the name of the film was changed to Best Little Cathouse in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982)
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    The use of the word "Whorehouse" in the title caused controversy. In Canada, TV ads for the film bleeped the word, and in some locales the name of the film was changed to Best Little Cathouse in Texas.

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    I remember that! Though I think the ads I saw were for the musical, not the movie. It was one of the very few times that I ever heard a literal "bleep" over a censored word.

    And it's interesting that someone thought that "cat" would be a suitable substitute for "whore", since I've always associated that usage of the word with "pussy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Chicken Ranch?
    To be honest, apart from the name of that particular establishment, I never really associated the word "chicken" with anything risque. Well, also in this phrase, which doesn't really have the same circulation as the feline terminology.

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    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.
    Your post at #1090 is suggesting a bit more than "a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play."
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpeters View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post

    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.
    Your post at #1090 is suggesting a bit more than "a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play."
    Oh, okay.

    That was a rather tangential observation, not related to the issue of whether the song is offensive, or whether a station has the right not to play it. I was simply pointing out the irony of conservatives rushing forward to defend a song that treats premartial sex as just cutesy shenannigans, whereas traditionally that's something they'd claim to be against.
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    Anyway, my comment was specifically directed at the people who argue about Baby It's Cold Outside that radio stations don't need to censor themselves, because we can all just self-regulate by switching the dial. I'm just wondering if they think that should apply to every single song that's ever been written. Over to you, H.L...
    I'm with H.L. on this. Change the station. When did we start talking about every song ever written? I think your issue is with the CRTC. If it's on the radio chances are it passed through their hands; Christmas or otherwise. If a station wants to ban a song, ban it. Don't try to sell it as they are the moral compass for society and fabricate a bunch of BS on the why's. Thanks, I'm good.
    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.
    Surprised you are getting so much objection on this. Of course radio stations DO select what they want to play and all of them have a pretty specific play list. Maybe I'm not understanding the whole issue.

    That said, and you agreed earlier, I think its wrong for any media to change art. Songs, movies, censor, alter words etc. Either a media outlet accepts the art, as originally intended, or not.


    The last thing is how big brother it is to change/censor/redefine PAST art on the basis of todays shifting standards. The retroactive analysis, as demonstrated in the thread is often to the point of silly. Monty Python would have reams of new material to work with, if they were allowed to do any of their skits today...
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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post

    Um, so you AGREE with me then? Because what I'm saying is that a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play.
    Your post at #1090 is suggesting a bit more than "a radio station has the right not to play songs that they don't want to play."
    Oh, okay.

    That was a rather tangential observation, not related to the issue of whether the song is offensive, or whether a station has the right not to play it. I was simply pointing out the irony of conservatives rushing forward to defend a song that treats premartial sex as just cutesy shenannigans, whereas traditionally that's something they'd claim to be against.
    The post reads exactly like an observation. That you were thinking out loud. I think some stuff has been read into what you posted. That people ran with it and mobilized around a general nature of what gets cited in this thread.

    That said I don't subscribe to your view on what right wing would or would not consider offensive. I mean if you take a co-opted evangelical interpretation of right wing being against something it would be an unfair depiction of right wing political perspective, acceptance, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    [That said I don't subscribe to your view on what right wing would or would not consider offensive. I mean if you take a co-opted evangelical interpretation of right wing being against something it would be an unfair depiction of right wing political perspective, acceptance, etc.
    Right. There are different kinds of conservatives, and not all of them like and dislike the same stuff(same with left-wingers of course). But a LOT of them dislike the secularization of Christmas, and quite a few(though maybe more in the past) dislike premarital sex, and I'd be willing to bet that there are at least some or them who dislike those things, but are defending Baby It's Cold Outside, in the name of being anti-MeToo.

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    Surprised you are getting so much objection on this. Of course radio stations DO select what they want to play and all of them have a pretty specific play list. Maybe I'm not understanding the whole issue.

    That said, and you agreed earlier, I think its wrong for any media to change art. Songs, movies, censor, alter words etc. Either a media outlet accepts the art, as originally intended, or not.


    The last thing is how big brother it is to change/censor/redefine PAST art on the basis of todays shifting standards. The retroactive analysis, as demonstrated in the thread is often to the point of silly. Monty Python would have reams of new material to work with, if they were allowed to do any of their skits today...
    Altering something existing, cutting scenes or bleeping words, happens all the time. However, songs are also changed in remakes. Lyrics are altered, tempo is changed, arrangement is redone. Are just the lyrics art or is the music and presentation art as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post

    Surprised you are getting so much objection on this. Of course radio stations DO select what they want to play and all of them have a pretty specific play list. Maybe I'm not understanding the whole issue.

    That said, and you agreed earlier, I think its wrong for any media to change art. Songs, movies, censor, alter words etc. Either a media outlet accepts the art, as originally intended, or not.


    The last thing is how big brother it is to change/censor/redefine PAST art on the basis of todays shifting standards. The retroactive analysis, as demonstrated in the thread is often to the point of silly. Monty Python would have reams of new material to work with, if they were allowed to do any of their skits today...
    Altering something existing, cutting scenes or bleeping words, happens all the time. However, songs are also changed in remakes. Lyrics are altered, tempo is changed, arrangement is redone. Are just the lyrics art or is the music and presentation art as well?
    My main point is that product and art revision is taking place, and without the consumer being advised. So that you end up watching a movie, which has not had any notice that it has been significantly altered, and the title is the same, identifying it as a specific product. Consumers should be advised if a movie has been edited, changed, censored incessantly etc. Tell me that and I won't bother watching it....ahhh, but theres the rub. The Networks know this, the TV industry knows this, but gets away with pandering to suit their OWN assessment of suitability as well as their advisors. So that the actual viewers watching, the reason the movies are made in the first place, are getting substandard altered product.


    At least if something is called "The best little cathouse" the audience is forewarned to stay clear. At least let the audience knows in that case a network has reworked a PC or kid version.
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    Tell people that the song is from another era, it’s sexist and manipulative, then sing the song.



    Dean Martin’s Daughter Vows to Sing ‘Baby It’s Cold Outside’ After Ohio Radio Station Bans Classic Song



    “Now, I do realize that when the song was written in 1944, it was a different time, but now while reading it, it seems very manipulative and wrong,” he said. ...”



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    Below, Tillerson might as well have added that people want to simplistically erase history rather than becoming better educated through exposure to it. They are satisfied with a ban, with the removal of statutes, the changing of names. If it’s bad in anyway, make sure no one knows anything about it.




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    “I will be honest with you, it troubles me that the American people seem to want to know so little about issues, that they are satisfied with a 128 characters,” he said, adding, “It’s really a concern that I have about us as Americans and us as a society and us as citizens.”



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    Good for Dean Martins daughter!

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    Little people advocates push to change 'midget' hockey name

    An organization representing people with dwarfism is pushing for Alberta hockey teams to remove the word "midget" from age categorizations and league names.

    The word is one of several to distinguish hockey's age categories, which include novice, atom, peewee, bantam and midget. Midget represents the group of players aged 15 to 17.

    Instead of saying U-18, as under-18 teams are described in soccer, for example, minor hockey has continued to use these placeholder words signifying small.

    But for some people who have the medical condition dwarfism, the word "midget" is a commonly hurled insult by bullies.

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    I agree with this. Get rid of the term 'Midget' and call the age group U-17.

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    Besides they’re too tall to be ‘midgets’.

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    15 to 17

    That would be the IAL's, Immature Adults League
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    Get rid of 'Pee Wee' too. It reminds me of a former actor who played a children's TV host. Then in real life he went to an adult cinema and....never mind.

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    Baby it's cold outside, the real context.

    Here is the original song as featured in the 1949 film “Neptune’s Daughter. ”

    As you can see if you watch the whole song including the second scene (begins at 2:28 ), you see the song goes both ways.



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    'The audience spoke, and we listened,' CBC said. Rogers is sticking by its decision not to play the 1944 Christmas classic this year
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    If some people are so into politically correct censorship, maybe they should look at modern music such as rap music.
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    Exactly, like some lyrics from rap, killing, shooting, slurs of all sorts against all sorts of groups and people - which actually sounds like encouraging violence, and that btw is not protected under the charter.


    We have freedom of expression in this country, that I fear is coming under attack.

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    I don't even class rap as music. It's an expression of sorts, but music it ain't.
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    Rap is s h i t

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    I'm kind of wondering why CBC made the decision to pull BICO in the first place. The sequence of events seemed to be the station in Cleveland pulling it, followed by a couple of private-sector radio networks, and then the CBC. Was it just a case of the CBC thinking "Well, gee, we're supposed to be more enlightened than the private sector, so if they're not playing the song, how's it gonna look if we are?"

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