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    Three festivals relocating to accommodate LRT construction
    http://www.630ched.com/2017/03/30/165170/

    The Works is moving to new Legislature plaza.
    Street Performers moving to Old Strathcona (McIntyre park)
    Taste of Edmonton TBA - "preferred location is downtown"
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    Yes, and they all want money for having to relocate..huh? No!

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    Correct. Temporary relocations.
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    http://www.metronews.ca/news/edmonto...ly-closes.html

    “It’s been stressful for use to find a new location,” said Paul Lucas, general manager with Events Edmonton, which runs Taste of Edmonton. “If anything, we’ve run up against a lot of roadblocks for locations.”

    Lucas said the festival organizers need to find space for 48 restaurants that need running water and power, as well as 18 food trucks and a stage.

    “Finding a place big enough for all of that, for one, is challenging,” he said, noting organizers would like a place downtown. “We’d like a location that will support the city’s downtown lunchtime crowd.”
    What's wrong with these options:
    new plaza at the Legislature grounds, or 99 Ave next to it
    Rice Howard Way
    Louise McKinney Park
    empty lot south of EPCOR tower
    service road between the RAM and CN tower
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    I like Rice Howard Way, which has a lot above Centennial Parkade for the dining area. This area is still close to LRT.
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    https://twitter.com/vineshpratap/sta...81731130527745

    vinesh pratap‏ @vineshpratap

    BREAKING: Now province will grant exemption to allow Taste of #yeg at Fed. Building Plaza. #yegdt @GlobalEdmonton
    Apparently GOA has a no food rule at new plaza, hence why Taste was having problems finding a new space. Glad there's now an exemption, but what a silly rule.
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    https://twitter.com/estolte/status/848984301819449347
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    Minister Brian Mason says "antiquated" policy against alcohol on the legislature grounds also bans dancing. #yegcc #ableg


    https://twitter.com/estolte/status/848984455586881536
    Elise Stolte‏ @estolte
    Soooo ... Mason is asking his department to review the policy. : ) #yegcc #ableg


    https://twitter.com/estolte/status/848984848303652864
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    “This clearly cannot stand ... because if you can’t dance, you’re no legislator of mine," says Minister Mason #yegcc #ableg


    https://twitter.com/EmmaLGraney/stat...84434254557185
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    Never before had an #ableg minister reference Footloose in a scrum. That all changed today with @bmasonNDP.
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    Excellent news indeed. Great opportunity to showcase the Federal Building, the exhibits and movie on AB's history/formation and to bring some additional excitement to that part of our Downtown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    https://twitter.com/vineshpratap/sta...81731130527745

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    BREAKING: Now province will grant exemption to allow Taste of #yeg at Fed. Building Plaza. #yegdt @GlobalEdmonton
    Apparently GOA has a no food rule at new plaza, hence why Taste was having problems finding a new space. Glad there's now an exemption, but what a silly rule.
    Hence why it's a completely barren wasteland with zero activity. How old fashioned are we? In most other countries, spaces like this are stuffed with pubs, cafes, restaurants, and beer gardens.
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    And trash and vomit and urine.

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    Meh, they can have all the down and outers working off their community service hours clean up all the pi$$, $hit, and puke like at every other festival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    And trash and vomit and urine.
    Oh dear..

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    More here:
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...islature-plaza


    choice comment:
    Coun. Ben Henderson said Edmonton had the same policy for Churchill Square when the renovations were brand new. Then they wondered why no one was using the square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    And trash and vomit and urine.
    Urine courtesy of debbie downers like yourself? or is that party poop from you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    https://twitter.com/vineshpratap/sta...81731130527745

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    BREAKING: Now province will grant exemption to allow Taste of #yeg at Fed. Building Plaza. #yegdt @GlobalEdmonton
    Apparently GOA has a no food rule at new plaza, hence why Taste was having problems finding a new space. Glad there's now an exemption, but what a silly rule.
    Yeah, you can't even have a pancake breakfast then... crazy.

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    A couple of news reports are saying that Taste of Edmonton booths won't be able to cook their food on the Federal Building plaza.
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    Can't cook? I hope they are looking for another location.

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    99 Avenue is available as is Capital BLVD going north
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    Could taste of Edmonton go to Hawrelak park, they would do well there I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    Could taste of Edmonton go to Hawrelak park, they would do well there I think.
    How so? Explain your assertion.

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    Could it, sure, but unlike Heritage Days this is meant to be more of an urban/sidewalk/patio event versus more of a 'festival' which suits Hawrelak well.
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    Taste wants to stay downtown because most of their visitors are the office lunch crowd.

    From the article I posted in post #13

    In Churchill Square, Taste of Edmonton attracts 400,000 people over 10 days. Twenty-three per cent of those visitors are from out of town, while many others work in downtown office towers, said Lucas. If the festival lost access to the office tower crowd, it would mean a $1-million revenue loss for the festival and restaurants, he said.
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    Bingo. Must be easily accessible for lunches to survive.
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    Before I heard Brian Mason talking about the exemption and plans to change the rule, I was upset enough about the no food rule that I called the Legislature office for my MLA, David Shepherd, to politely ask for the rule to change. His admin assistant was pleasant, listened to my concerns and reasoning (vibrancy, a public space we have paid for as constituents, etc ), and said she'd pass along the feedback.

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    I don't think the leg is easy for the downtown crowd at all, we'll see.

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    Heck, even making it work in Churchill going from EPCOR Tower required a little finagling & preplanning. 30-45 minute lunch breaks go quickly when you spend 1/2 of it walking to/from the event & a large amount of time in line.
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    Do youz guyz remember the year when Taste was held in that Occupy park next to Royal Bank ?

    That was good entertainment.

    Top_Dawg would sit comfortably at Hawkeye's poking back cold ones while watching the locals clamber over one another fighting for overpriced scraps of food.

    Good times.

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    Regarding lunch time access to the Taste of Edmonton, maybe we could re-institute the free downtown LRT ride from 11:00 AM to 2:00 PM during the time of the festival, and possibly other festivals, at least during the period of LRT construction.

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    ^^you were drinking cold ones with the Occupy crowd? Cooool. Funny how that didn't change the world as we know it... (well, not really that funny, it was as effective as every useless loser protest is).
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    ^^^ IIRC Taste was held on 102 St between Jasper Ave and 100 Ave for 1 or 2 years. This was back when Churchill Square was being rebuilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    ^^^ IIRC Taste was held on 102 St between Jasper Ave and 100 Ave for 1 or 2 years. This was back when Churchill Square was being rebuilt.
    Yeah, that must have been when it was.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ustauk View Post
    Regarding lunch time access to the Taste of Edmonton, maybe we could re-institute the free downtown LRT ride from 11:00 AM to 2:00 PM during the time of the festival, and possibly other festivals, at least during the period of LRT construction.


    Free downtown LRT.

    Top_Dawg remembers that.

    It was used mainly by high priced downtown law firms to shuttle lawyers to and from the courthouse on the public dime.

    Classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    I don't think the leg is easy for the downtown crowd at all, we'll see.
    There is a considerable amount of folk in and around the Leg grounds, Oliver, West Jasper and there is LRT if you prefer. Free LRT, no thanks, but perhaps some sort of lunch pass with purchase of a certain number of tickets. That said, it is about a 10-15mins walk for most which is perfectly reasonable.
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    From 101 St & 102 Ave (reasonably arbitrarily picked center of the CBD) it's a 20 minute walk to the Legislature Plaza as per Google Maps, which means to & fro is now 40 minutes, without stopping to actually partake of the event. That's a huge chunk of time for someone working a 9-5 with an hour for breaks all day.

    Anyone who says the Legislature Plaza is accessible for a CBD office worker has obviously never been one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    I don't think the leg is easy for the downtown crowd at all, we'll see.
    There is a considerable amount of folk in and around the Leg grounds, Oliver, West Jasper and there is LRT if you prefer. Free LRT, no thanks, but perhaps some sort of lunch pass with purchase of a certain number of tickets. That said, it is about a 10-15mins walk for most which is perfectly reasonable.
    It wont be anything close to WCS, but we'll see..

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    From 101 St & 102 Ave (reasonably arbitrarily picked center of the CBD) it's a 20 minute walk to the Legislature Plaza as per Google Maps, which means to & fro is now 40 minutes, without stopping to actually partake of the event. That's a huge chunk of time for someone working a 9-5 with an hour for breaks all day.

    Anyone who says the Legislature Plaza is accessible for a CBD office worker has obviously never been one.
    Exactly. I had an hour for lunch, no way would I have had time.

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    Yes it's far for those working in the skyscraper district, but still close enough to big employers - GOA, Alberta Health, Blue Cross, WCB, IBM, Grant McEwan, Norquest and so on. The event is going to be held on the new Federal Building plaza and on one block of 108 St - just a spitting distance from many of them.

    I never go at lunch time anyway, prefer to go after work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post

    watching the locals clamber over one another fighting for overpriced scraps of food.
    That's how I feel about Taste even now. Coleman-fired B-sides of basic dishes, for twice the regular price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    From 101 St & 102 Ave (reasonably arbitrarily picked center of the CBD) it's a 20 minute walk to the Legislature Plaza as per Google Maps, which means to & fro is now 40 minutes, without stopping to actually partake of the event. That's a huge chunk of time for someone working a 9-5 with an hour for breaks all day.

    Anyone who says the Legislature Plaza is accessible for a CBD office worker has obviously never been one.
    It's not going to work for those of us who spend our daily grind in the CBD, absolutely. However, there's a good amount of office space in that area that is underserved by events like these, so I don't mind letting them have a turn for a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    From 101 St & 102 Ave (reasonably arbitrarily picked center of the CBD) it's a 20 minute walk to the Legislature Plaza as per Google Maps, which means to & fro is now 40 minutes, without stopping to actually partake of the event. That's a huge chunk of time for someone working a 9-5 with an hour for breaks all day.

    Anyone who says the Legislature Plaza is accessible for a CBD office worker has obviously never been one.
    Exactly. I had an hour for lunch, no way would I have had time.
    I am one. Take the LRT. Problem solved.

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    Your solution doesn't save a lot of time, brings it down to Ian's erroneous "10 to 15 minutes", if you manage to line it up exactly & work in a tower with easy access to the LRT stations.

    The walk to an LRT station, the wait of ~7 minutes until a train arrives, the 5-6 minute train ride & the walk through pedways adds up to 15 minutes pretty quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    Your solution doesn't save a lot of time, brings it down to Ian's erroneous "10 to 15 minutes", if you manage to line it up exactly & work in a tower with easy access to the LRT stations.

    The walk to an LRT station, the wait of ~7 minutes until a train arrives, the 5-6 minute train ride & the walk through pedways adds up to 15 minutes pretty quickly.
    So you don't take the train, I presume?

    Most buildings in the core have very good access to the LRT.

    You'd probably have 30 minutes for the festival, and 30 for transit assuming you get an hour for lunch, which is what many people get.

    Many people have time to go for a run or do yoga over lunch, so I'm not seeing why this is much different. Is it tight? Yes. Impossible? Not at all.

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    The figures are all from the ETS LRT schedule.

    I've also taken the train an awful lot & have worked Downtown for over a decade before I thankfully got a transfer where I don't have to go Downtown or utilize ETS in any way, shape or form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodib View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    From 101 St & 102 Ave (reasonably arbitrarily picked center of the CBD) it's a 20 minute walk to the Legislature Plaza as per Google Maps, which means to & fro is now 40 minutes, without stopping to actually partake of the event. That's a huge chunk of time for someone working a 9-5 with an hour for breaks all day.

    Anyone who says the Legislature Plaza is accessible for a CBD office worker has obviously never been one.
    Exactly. I had an hour for lunch, no way would I have had time.
    I am one. Take the LRT. Problem solved.
    LOL, okay I give up..everyone take a two hour lunch..LOL

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    I wonder if A Taste of Edmonton would be interested in relocating to the 96 Street/101A Avenue area by the Hyatt. It's still close to the business district and LRT.
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    There was some thought about the armature, but it simply is not there yet for atmosphere and activity.

    The Fed is a great location for a variety of reasons and might encourage a few of us to walk a little more.
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