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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Communication between Manafort and Trump legal teams may get Trump's lawyers subpoenaed.

    Giuliani’s conversations with Manafort’s lawyers aren’t privileged — and he could be subpoenaed: legal experts

    If Manafort’s lawyers revealed confidential information related to his cooperation with special counsel Robert Mueller or if Trump’s team dangled the prospect of a pardon before him, it could be considered witness tampering, legal experts who spoke to NBC said.


    Under typical rules, the report noted, a joint defense agreement like that which Giuliani revealed to multiple news agencies earlier in the week would be protected by attorney client-privilege.


    However, experts who spoke to NBC said “a joint defense agreement can only exist between people who have a common legal interest” — and that common legal interest evaporated when Manafort began cooperating with Mueller in his investigation of Trump.


    “When former national security adviser Michael Flynn flipped,” NBC noted, “he notified Trump’s lawyers that he was withdrawing from their joint defense agreement.”


    Former U.S. attorneys Joyce Vance and Mimi Rocah, both NBC analysts, agreed that Trump and Manafort no longer had a shared legal interest once the former campaign manager began cooperating with the special counsel.


    “If I were Mueller I would be issuing subpoenas today to Rudy Giuliani and [Manafort’s attorney] Kevin Downing, and anyone else involved in those communications, so they would have to explain under oath exactly what was conveyed,” Vance said.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/giu...legal-experts/
    For Colluding. Well that might be a first.
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    Trump previously said that negotiations ended months earlier.

    Michael Cohen pleads guilty to lying to Senate about Trump Tower project in Russia

    Michael Cohen, U.S. President Donald Trump's former lawyer, pleaded guilty early Thursday to lying to Congress about work he did on a Trump real estate deal in Russia.


    Cohen made a surprise appearance Thursday in a New York courtroom at around 9 a.m. ET and began entering the plea.

    He admitted to making false statements in 2017 to the Senate intelligence committee about a plan to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.


    Cohen said he lied about the timing of the tower negotiations and other details to be consistent with Trump's "political message."

    Cohen said that among other lies, he told Congress that all discussions of the Moscow Trump Tower project ended by January 2016, when they had actually continued until June of that year, as Trump was securing the Republican nomination for president.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cohen-...rump-1.4925270

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    President Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress in federal court
    https://www.axios.com/read-michael-c...0a172925e.html

    This is the first time that Cohen, who pleaded guilty in the Southern District of New York in August to campaign finance violations, has been charged in the Mueller investigation. In court, Cohen reportedly said he lied out of loyalty to Trump and to be consistent with the president's political messaging, per NBC News' Tom Winter. He has reportedly spent more than 70 hours in interviews with the special counsel, per ABC News.



    Michael Cohen pleads guilty to lying to Congress over Trump project in Russia
    Former lawyer and fixer said Trump continued trying to develop tower in Moscow months into presidential campaign
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-investigation
    Cohen now admitted that he had briefed Trump on the Moscow more frequently than the three occasions that he previously admitted, according to Mueller, and that he also briefed unidentified Trump “family members”. Trump’s eldest three children were senior executives in his property company.

    The special counsel said Cohen also made plans for Trump to travel to Russia during the presidential campaign. He asked Trump if a visit would be possible and “asked a senior campaign official about potential business travel to Russia,” Mueller said. Cohen allegedly said in a May 2016 email that Trump’s visit to Russia would take place “once he becomes the nominee after the convention”.


    Mueller said Cohen made that suggestion in an email to Felix Sater, a Russian-born business associate of the Trumps, who worked with Cohen on the “Trump Tower Russia” plans and claimed to have connections with influential figures in Moscow. Sater emailed Cohen the day after Cohen spoke with the Kremlin aide, according to Mueller. “It’s about Putin they called today,” the email said.


    Sater continued trying to arrange travel to Russia for the project for several months, according to Mueller. In May 2016, he wrote to Cohen to say he had spoken “with Moscow” about “a pre-meeting trip” involving only Cohen and a possible further visit involving “the 2 big guys” – apparent references to Trump and Putin. Sater also emailed Cohen to say that Peskov wanted to invite Cohen to the June 2016 St Petersburg Forum – styled as Russia’s answer to the World Economic Forum in Davos – where Cohen could meet Putin or Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian prime minister.


    “He said anything you want to discuss including dates and subjects are on the table to discuss,” Sater told Cohen. Mueller said Cohen eventually scrapped plans to attend the conference shortly before it took place.
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    David Corn at Mother Jones lays out the facts and what Cohen's guilty plea means and reveals.


    Here’s Evidence of Collusion: Trump’s Lawyer Discussed Business Deal With Putin’s Office

    Here’s the bottom line: Trump was secretly interacting with Putin’s office in order to make money while he was campaigning for president. And it seems Putin’s office tried to help. The venture, though, never came together. But its existence is especially tantalizing given that the first memo in the infamous Steele dossier, which was written in June 2016, claimed that the Kremlin had attempted to cultivate and co-opt Trump in part by “offering him various lucrative real estate development business deals in Russia.”


    No surprise, Trump immediately tried to downplay Cohen’s guilty plea. “When I’m running for president that doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to do business,” he told reporters on Thursday morning. But Trump is on record exclaiming that he had done no business with Russia. And he certainly never acknowledged his fixer had reached out to Putin’s office for help on a Moscow project, when Trump was seeking the presidency and speaking positively about Putin. Trump also falsely claimed the Moscow deal had always been publicly known. “Everybody knew about it,” Trump said. “It was written about in newspapers. It was a well-known project.” Cohen is “lying about a project that everybody knew about,” Trump insisted. “We were very open with it.” That, too, is a lie. (During the 2016 campaign, Trump denied knowing Sater—possibly to prevent disclosing this Moscow project.)


    Trump, of course, couldn’t resist dumping on his former lawyer, and he called Cohen “a weak person and not a very smart person.” Yet it is Trump who signed the paperwork on the Moscow deal and kept it secret from voters. And with this deal, Trump sent the message to Moscow—at the same time its hackers were penetrating Democratic targets—that he wanted to do business with Putin and Russia. Imagine how all this looked to Putin, who had already implemented the first steps of a plan to attack the American election. Trump was willing to secretly engage with him for Trump’s own personal benefit. That, no doubt, was the type of fellow Putin would prefer sitting in the White House.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...putins-office/

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    Trump cancels G20 meeting with Putin after bombshell Michael Cohen guilty plea – The Guardian
    “NEWS: Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters on AF1 that Trump decided to cancel a planned meeting with Putin after reviewing a report that detailed Russia’s recent actions in Crimea related to Ukraine, per @SalehaMohsin, who is on this 10-hour flight to Buenos Aires. Nov 29, 2018”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-live-updates

    Trump cancels meeting at G20 with Putin over Ukraine tensions | Fox News
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...raine-tensions

    G20 summit - live: Trump cancels Putin meeting mid-flight to Argentina as Michael Cohen pleads guilty over Russia investigation | The Independent
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8659471.html

    Trump Cancels G-20 Summit Meeting with Putin over Attack on Ukraine
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-s...rainian-ships/



    Kremlin touts Trump-Putin meeting — before Trump cancels it

    Trump had previously cast the Buenos Aires sit-down into doubt, telling The Washington Post in a Tuesday interview that he might forgo meeting Putin after Russia’s naval action sparked global condemnation and a sharp escalation in tensions between the neighbors.

    But he seemed to reverse course as he left the White House on Thursday, telling reporters that the meeting with Putin “probably” was still on and that he planned to read a “finalized report” on the clash between Russian and Ukrainian forces while on the plane. ...”


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...993_story.html
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    Trump’s open talk about pardoning Manafort is a clear abuse of power - Vox

    “Nonetheless, in this case, not only would a pardon be a stunning abuse of power — even publicly dangling the pardon is. By traditional standards of American governance, these are clear impeachable offenses. But Republicans in Congress have stood behind Trump regardless of how inappropriately he’s behaved, which makes moving forward with the congressional impeachment process pointless.

    The fact that Trump’s co-partisans decline to restrain him in any way makes the American constitutional system borderline unworkable. ...”


    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...le-abuse-power

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    Michael Cohen in court: Trump ex-lawyer admits lying to Congress - BBC News







    “ Trump voter: 'They all break the law' “





    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46390368






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    Dershowitz Rips Mueller for 'False Statement Prosecutions' -- 'They’re Crimes That Were Committed as the Result of His Appointment' | Breitbart


    ”I think the weakness of Mueller’s substantive findings are suggested by the fact that he has to resort to false statement prosecutions, which really shows that he didn’t start with very much, and that the very fact that he’s conducting an investigation has created these crimes,” Dershowitz told Bill Hemmer. “These are not crimes that had been committed prior to his appointment, they’re crimes that were committed as the result of his appointment, and that raises some questions about the role of special prosecutors in creating crimes, or creating opportunities for crimes to be committed.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...s-appointment/

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    Trump Threatens to Declassify Docs if Democrats Take 'Harassment Track'

    “President Trump, in an interview with the New York Post Wednesday, threatened that if Democrats launch probes into his administration, he will declassify documents exposing that the Obama Justice Department, FBI, and the Hillary Clinton campaign worked together to set him up.
    “If they want to play tough, I will do it. They will see how devastating those pages are,” Trump toldthe Post.

    Democrats who are set to take over the House in January have vowed to inundate the Trump administration with investigation after investigation — into his taxes, if his campaign colluded with Russia, and his order to the military to deploy to the Southwest border. ...”

    Trump said the documents were “so bad” that there were some things the public should not see. “Maybe it’s better that the public not see what’s been going on with this country,” he added.




    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...assment-track/


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    ^ Knowing how many times Trump lied that he had evidence against the Democrats, (Birther, Wire Tapping, dirt on Clinton) it just sounds like another Trump Bluff.

    Come on KC, you made two posts using "Breitbart" as a source. Laughable but sad.
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    Trump's Chicago lawyer has his law office raided by federal agents.

    Federal agents raid office of lawyer who previously did tax work for Trump

    Burke’s law firm of Klafter & Burke has worked with Trump’s companies repeatedly to reduce the property tax that Trump Tower and his other properties in Chicago have had to pay, according to the Sun-Times.


    Over his 12 years working for Trump, Burke was allegedly able to cut the property taxes on the downtown tower by more than $14 million.


    Burke stopped working for Trump this summer, citing “irreconcilable differences” in letters filed with the Illinois State Property Tax Appeal Board.


    The federal agents appearance at the Chicago office of Burke’s takes place on the same day Trump’s former personal attorney Michael Cohen entered into a plea agreement to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...sly-worked-for

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Dershowitz Rips Mueller for 'False Statement Prosecutions' -- 'They’re Crimes That Were Committed as the Result of His Appointment' | Breitbart


    ”I think the weakness of Mueller’s substantive findings are suggested by the fact that he has to resort to false statement prosecutions, which really shows that he didn’t start with very much, and that the very fact that he’s conducting an investigation has created these crimes,” Dershowitz told Bill Hemmer. “These are not crimes that had been committed prior to his appointment, they’re crimes that were committed as the result of his appointment, and that raises some questions about the role of special prosecutors in creating crimes, or creating opportunities for crimes to be committed.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...s-appointment/
    Knowingly lying or making false testimony to Congress (or other branches of the U.S. government) has been a crime for a very long time:

    (a)Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—(1)falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;

    (2)makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

    (3)makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;

    shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001#

    It's also been a very long time since Alan Dershowitz should be considered an authority on anything.

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    The raid was connected with The Panama Papers but Deutsche Bank is Trump's biggest creditor. Who knows what may be uncovered while investigating their other clients. Were Russians laundering money through the Trump Organization with Deutsche Bank as the intermediary?

    German police raid Deutsche Bank offices over money laundering probe

    The head office of Deustche Bank and five of its locations in Frankfurt, Germany were searched by police on Thursday as part of a wide-ranging investigation into alleged money-laundering.


    Two employees of the bank, which is Germany’s largest, as well as other “unidentified people in positions of authority,” are suspected of allowing dubious transactions worth more than $350 million to pass through the bank without being reported.


    The raid was a direct result of the Panama Papers investigation by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, which in 2016 exposed a web of international corruption and money laundering connected to the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonesca.

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    Deutsche Bank has a long-running relationship with President Donald Trump. As Business Insider noted last year, the relationship began in 1998 when Deutsche Bank gave Trump a $125 million loan for property renovations. He received another $640 million loan to help build the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago. Trump currently holds around $360 million worth of debt to the bank.

    https://thinkprogress.org/german-pol...-3255b4fd99b1/

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    How much is the Mueller investigation costing the US government? About $0.00.

    Note to Trump: The Mueller Probe Costs Roughly $0.00 – Not $40 Million

    For another, just 48 hours ago, Trump referred to the Mueller investigation as the “now $30,000,000 Witch Hunt.” Now, perhaps Robert Mueller decided Wednesday that his team needed a Ferrari LaFerrari Aperta in order to chase down Roger Stone. But it seems more likely that the president is picking large numbers out of thin air, in a bid to discredit the investigation into his campaign’s alleged ties to Russian interference in the 2016 election.


    Another point in favor of theory No. 2: As of September, the fiscal cost of the Mueller investigation was roughly $0.00. By that point, the probe had spent roughly $26 million. But, by striking a plea agreement with Paul Manafort for his myriad white-collar crimes — an agreement that required Trump’s former campaign manager to forfeit five multi-million-dollar properties, a life-insurance policy, and the contents of multiple bank accounts — Mueller’s investigation had acquired somewhere between $26 million and $42 million worth of revenue for the federal treasury.

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/...yDTyuW7-HsfAGM

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    Donald Trump Gave Russia Leverage Over His Presidency
    A foreign adversary has possessed potentially damaging information about the president for an extended period of time.
    10:16 PM ET Conor Friedersdorf

    “ ...“The Kremlin knows the answer to these questions,” says Susan Hennessey, a former National Security Agency lawyer, on a Lawfare podcast. “And unless the answers here are the most innocent possible explanations … if it's anything other than that, the United States is in an incredibly dangerous position, because the United States is in a position where the American president is aware that a hostile foreign adversary potentially has devastating—politically devastating and potentially legally and criminally devastating, if not for him than for members of his family or organization—that a hostile foreign adversary has that information on him, and those really are the kinds of conditions where your worst nightmare is about blackmail and influence.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/577024/




    Three Remarkable Things About Michael Cohen's Plea - The Atlantic


    It’s not clear whether the Constitution allows Mueller to indict a sitting president. But Department of Justice policy forbids it, and Mueller is a rule-follower. If Mueller thinks that the president has committed a federal crime, his remedy is to recommend impeachment in a report to the attorney general. The attorney general, in turn, is supposed to tell Congress the outcome of the special counsel’s investigation and decide whether the report should be made public. Did you catch the problem? ...”

    “And that’s not all. Cohen’s plea is only one shoe dropping in a boot warehouse. [b]Who else lied to Congress about the pursuit of a hotel deal in Russia? Donald Trump Jr.? Did the president himself lie about it in his recent written answers to Mueller’s questions? (His lawyers claim that his answers matched Cohen’s.) Even if the pursuit of the hotel deal wasn’t criminal (and there’s no evidence that it was), everyone in Trump’s orbit who made statements about it—whether under oath or in interviews with the FBI—is in jeopardy today.[.b]

    ...”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...s-plea/577015/
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    In light of your Atlantic articles, you may wish to reread this:

    Will Trump Be Meeting With His Counterpart — Or His Handler?

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/...tom&gtm=bottom

    Putin is much better at his craft than Trump is at his.
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    They're coming fast and furious now: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml...mpression=true

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    About time another firing occurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudly View Post
    In light of your Atlantic articles, you may wish to reread this:

    Will Trump Be Meeting With His Counterpart — Or His Handler?

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/...tom&gtm=bottom

    Putin is much better at his craft than Trump is at his.
    It's not a meeting of equals. It's an annual performance review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    They're coming fast and furious now: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml...mpression=true
    Where is MrOilers and his ilk who would normally call this fake news, say that there is no evidence of collusion and defend Trump to the end?

    Have these rats left the sinking USS Trumpanic?

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    Funny how Trump supporters bring up George Soros as some Democrat villain while completely ignoring well know Russian mobster and Trump associate, Felix Sater.



    Articles about Russia's potential interference with the 2016 election of Donald Trump report that Felix Sater played a role in trying to assist Russia. According to the New York Times and other sources, Felix Sater wrote and sent to his Russian contact(s) (probably Dmitry Peskov, Putin's personal assistant) an email stating, "I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected" and "If he says it we own this election." In July 2017, The Financial Times, citing five sources with knowledge of the matter, reported that Sater had agreed to cooperate with investigators looking into an international money laundering scheme involving Viktor Khrapunov, a former government minister in Kazakhstan.

    Sater received multiple subpoenas to produce documents and be deposed in the case against Mukhtar Ablyazov who is alleged to have defrauded BTA Bank of up to $5 billion as chairman. Ablyazov's alleged fraud is one of the biggest cases of financial fraud in history
    In late January 2017, Sater met with Ukrainian politician Andrey Artemenko and Donald Trump's personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, at the Loews Regency in Manhattan to discuss a plan to lift sanctions against Russia. The proposed plan would require that Russian forces withdraw from eastern Ukraine and that Ukraine hold a referendum on whether Crimea should be "leased" to Russia for 50 or 100 years. Sater gave Cohen a written proposal in a sealed envelope that was delivered to then-National Security Advisor Michael T. Flynn in early February. On 20 February 2017, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov rejected Russia "leasing" Crimea from Ukraine claiming "we cannot rent from ourselves"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sater





    THE TRUTH ABOUT TRUMP AND THE MOB
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    A controversial classic from the campaign trail, Trump reads 'The Snake,' as an allegory to illegal immigration.



    Now we know that the allegory is about him and the American People.

    Trump, the proverbial snake, has shown his true nature and viciously attacked American institutions, bitten Liberty's breast and poisoned the body politic.

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    Trump - "I will not met with Putin"

    Putin - "Donald, what did I tell you about checking with me first?"

    Trump - "Sorry sir, I spoke out of turn."


    Trump says he's not meeting with Putin, Putin says they're meeting ... guess what happens next

    On Thursday, Donald Trump first said that he was looking forward to seeing Vladimir Putin and that “I think it's a very good time to have a meeting.” That was less than an hour before the White House press secretary put out a notice that the meeting had been cancelled because Russia is illegally holding Ukrainian ships and sailors hostage. However, within minutes of Trump’s cancelling the meeting, the Jerusalem Post reported that the Kremlin had “rejected” Trump’s cancellation.

    What does it means to reject a cancellation? Apparently, it’s the same thing as a summons. Because despite Trump’s announcement—Trump and Putin are meeting after all.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...t-happens-next

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    If I were Trump I would think about moving businesses out of the USA and build a beautiful home for himself, Melania and Baron in Novo Mesto or Sevnica.
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    Trump is more scared of Vladimir Putin than Robert Mueller: national security expert


    In an op-ed for the Observer newspaper, former National Security Agency analyst John R. Schindler wrote that the Trump Organization showed off its “stunning ineptitude” with its reported discussions to give Putin the $50 million penthouse in the scrapped Trump Tower Moscow project.

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    “The Kremlin’s displeasure with its erstwhile friend, rising for months, has risen to hazardous levels for the White House,” Schindler noted. “The breaking point is Ukraine. Last weekend, Putin’s Federal Security Service engineered an armed confrontation in the Black Sea, grabbing two Ukrainian navy patrol boats and their crews as booty.”


    After issuing a “timid” response to the Kremlin’s incursion in Ukraine, Trump then had the gall to cancel via tweet his planned meeting with Putin — ostensibly because of “the fact that the ships and sailors have not been returned to Ukraine from Russia.”


    Moscow was “furious” at the response, the security expert noted.


    “We regret the decision of the U.S. administration to cancel the scheduled meeting of the two presidents in Buenos Aires,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitri Peskov said. The move, he added, “means that discussion of serious issues on the international and bilateral agenda is being postponed indefinitely.”


    “In other words: you don’t get to cancel meetings, we do—and if you think the Kremlin will help you out, Don, have we got news for you,” Schindler translated.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/tru...curity-expert/


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    G-20 Leaders Vote Unanimously Not to Give Trump Asylum
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    BUENOS AIRES (The Borowitz Report)—In an unusual display of unity by an often fractious organization, the leaders of the G-20 nations voted unanimously on Saturday to deny Donald J. Trump’s urgent request for asylum.

    Prior to the vote, Trump had been heard asking colleagues ranging from Angela Merkel to Xi Jinping for safe harbor in their countries, sweetening his request with offers of free luxury penthouses in Trump buildings around the globe.


    In the most stunning insult to Trump, his closest allies, Vladimir Putin and Mohammed bin Salman, responded to his asylum request by laughing uproariously in his face and high-fiving each other.


    After the resolution to deny Trump asylum passed by a 19–0 vote, international observers said that they had never seen the G-20 act with such enthusiastic solidarity. “Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron were practically peeing themselves,” one observer said.


    After receiving the resounding rebuke from the G-20, Trump grumpily withdrew to his hotel room, where he reportedly placed several calls to Kim Jong Un that went straight to voice mail.
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    Comey to testify behind closed doors but can make transcript public.

    Comey wins guarantee Congressional testimony will be made public

    Comey agreed to sit down for a closed-door deposition on Friday. Republicans on the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee pledged to provide Comey with a full transcript within 24 hours of his testimony, and he will be permitted to “make any or all of that transcript public,” Comey’s lawyer David Kelley told Reuters in a statement.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/com...l-made-public/

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    Nothing to see here. Move along.

    Here’s why Trump’s proposed Moscow project is even dirtier than it looks

    But it wasn’t just the overall hush-hush nature of the Moscow Project that poses such a threat to American national security. The true smoking gun at the center of the Trump Tower Moscow prong of the Russia story happens to be a Russian bank known as VTB. Those who haven’t been following the day-to-day developments (hello, Red Hats) might not know that 60 percent of VTB is controlled by the Kremlin.


    It turns out that one of Trump’s many shady operatives and hangers-on, Felix Sater, a Russian-born New Yorker with an office in Trump Tower, arranged financing for the Moscow Project. The money was to be put up by VTB, and Trump himself signed a letter of intent to build the skyscraper, complete with a spa facility for Ivanka Trump’s brand and a $50 million penthouse for Putin (priorities, priorities).


    VTB’s financing appears to have been locked in around October 2015, while Russia’s military intelligence agency, the GRU, was busily deploying its attack against the Democrats and the forthcoming American elections.


    What the nothingburger crowd won’t say out loud is that VTB has been subject to American sanctions since July 2014, after Putin invaded Ukraine and seized Crimea in the wake of the Sochi Olympics. Simply put, it’s illegal for any Americans or American corporations, including the Trump Organization, to do business with VTB and other entities under sanction. Trump, Cohen and Sater did it anyway.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/her...dirtier-looks/

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    One thing that doesn't seem to be mentioned many places is that there were TWO deals for Towers in Moscow, not one.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Twitter is a horrible system for any kind of deep discussion. Wish the guy would just blog or write an article for a mag.

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    On the other hand, TWITTER can be quite revealing:

    Whoops, Rudy Giuliani: Your tweet indirectly called President Trump a traitor - MarketWatch

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wh...tor-2018-12-03
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    Well now, this is an interesting development. The FBI was already investigating Trump for obstruction of justice BEFORE Mueller was appointed.

    The frantic scramble before Mueller got the job

    Washington (CNN)In the hectic eight days after President Donald Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and top FBI officials viewed Trump as a leader who needed to be reined in, according to two sources describing the sentiment at the time.


    They discussed a range of options, including the idea of Rosenstein wearing a wire while speaking with Trump, which Rosenstein later denied. Ultimately, then-acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe took the extraordinary step of opening an obstruction of justice investigation even before special counsel Robert Mueller was appointed, the sources said. The obstruction probe was an idea the FBI had previously considered, but it didn't start until after Comey was fired. The justification went beyond Trump's firing of Comey, according to the sources, and also included the President's conversation with Comey in the Oval Office asking him to drop the investigation into his former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

    The new details about the genesis of the obstruction case into Trump that became a key element of the Mueller probe shed light on the chaotic week following Comey's firing and the scramble to decide how best to respond. They also help to explain the origins of the Mueller investigation that has stretched across 19 months, consumed Trump's presidency and is building toward a dramatic day of courtroom filings on Friday.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/polit...obe/index.html

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    Tillerson says Trump directed him to do things that violate the law
    http://time.com/5473728/rex-tillerson-trump-firing/
    Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson hasn’t spoken much about his days in the White House since being fired nearly nine months ago. That is, until Thursday, when he was interviewed at a fundraiser in Houston and outlined why he and President Donald Trump ultimately could not work together.


    “So often, the President would say, ‘here’s what I want to do and here’s how I want to do it,’ and I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President, I understand what you want to do but you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,'” Tillerson said. “I didn’t know how to conduct my affairs with him any other way than in a very straightforward fashion.”


    Trump didn’t like that, Tillerson suggested. “I think he grew tired of me being the guy every day that told him you can’t do that,” he said.
    Before joining the White House in February 2017, Tillerson was the CEO and chairman of ExxonMobil. At the event in Texas, he said the roles were very different.


    “What was challenging for me coming from the disciplined, highly process-oriented Exxon Mobil corporation,” Tillerson said, was “to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing reports, doesn’t like to get into the details of a lot of things, but rather just kind of says, ‘This is what I believe.’”


    Tillerson also suggested he does not approve of social media as a way to disseminate and learn of vital policy updates.


    “I will be honest with you, it troubles me that the American people seem to want to know so little about issues, that they are satisfied with a 128 characters,” he said, adding, “It’s really a concern that I have about us as Americans and us as a society and us as citizens.”


    Tillerson reportedly learned of his firing via Twitter, when Trump announced former CIA Director Mike Pompeo would be replacing him in March of 2018.
    On cue, Trump lashes out, 10 times more

    'He was dumb as a rock': Trump lashes out at former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...lerson-2018-12
    President Donald Trump lashed out at former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in an insult-laden tweet after Tillerson called Trump "undisciplined" — and said the president frequently asked him to break the law — while speaking to a crowd in Houston Thursday night.


    "Mike Pompeo is doing a great job, I am very proud of him. His predecessor, Rex Tillerson, didn't have the mental capacity needed," Trump wrote.


    "He was dumb as a rock and I couldn't get rid of him fast enough," Trump added. "He was lazy as hell. Now it is a whole new ballgame, great spirit at State!"


    "Dumb as a rock" appears to be one of Trump's preferred insults, as BuzzFeed reporter Vera Bergengruen suggested on Twitter. He's used the term to describe former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, "Morning Joe" host Mika Brzezinski, and the media commentators Jonah Goldberg, Rick Wilson, Glenn Beck, and Bill Maher.
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    EXECUTIVE SESSION
    COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY,
    JOINT WITH THE
    COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT,
    U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
    WASHINGTON, D.C.
    INTERVIEW OF: JAMES COMEY


    Friday, December 7, 2018

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-conte...Redacted-1.pdf

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    Mueller findings corroborate three points of the Steele dossier. Can evidence of the pee-pee tape be far behind?

    The utterly lawless ‘Individual-1’

    On Friday, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said the latest filings “tell us nothing of value that wasn’t already known.” That’s true in the sense that recent findings essentially corroborate much of the 2016 “dossier” by former spy Christopher Steele — declared fraudulent by Trump — and its reports of extensive, compromising interactions between the Trump campaign and cronies of Russian President Vladimir Putin.


    The dossier’s assertion of Michael Cohen’s “ongoing secret liaison relationship” with Russian leadership has been confirmed by his now-exposed work on a Moscow Trump Tower well into 2016, which he lied about to Congress. The new revelations about Cohen also show that the dossier correctly identified Putin lieutenants Dmitry Peskov and Sergei Ivanov as the ones managing the Trump campaign for the Russian government.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.4afc33602a53

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    It's a shame MrOilers doesn't come into the thread anymore. I fear this was the only place where he was being exposed to the truth.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    MrOilers had clearly taken to the wrong side of history, the truth and ethical behavior.
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    John Kelly Departs White House with Nuclear Codes Hidden in his Pants
    Satire from The Borowitz Report
    The outgoing chief of staff, John Kelly, departed the White House with the nation’s nuclear codes hidden in his pants, General Kelly has confirmed.

    Kelly, whose illustrious military career spanned five decades, called his absconding with the nuclear codes “my greatest act of service to my country.”

    Speaking to reporters from his home, Kelly said that he had planned the heist of the nation’s nuclear codes with the pinpoint timing of a clandestine military mission.

    “I went into the Oval Office on Friday when I knew Trump would be distracted because ‘Fox & Friends’ was on,” he said. “Then, when he started tweeting something that one of the hosts told him to do, I slipped the codes into my pants, as quick as lightning.”
    Kelly revealed that, in order to prevent Trump from retrieving the codes, he was keeping them in his pants for safekeeping.
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    Per Breitbart:


    President Trump Confirms John Kelly Out as White House Chief of Staff | Breitbart

    “This all comes in the wake of Trump’s nomination of William Barr, the Attorney General during George H.W. Bush’s presidency, to succeed Jeff Sessions at the helm of the Department of Justice, and his selection of Heather Nauert–a former Fox News personality who also served as a State Department spokeswoman–as the next United Nations ambassador.

    Kelly’s time as chief of staff has been marked by strife and division inside the White House. Various factions have privately–and sometimes publicly–bitterly fought, and Trump has bristled at Kelly’s management style. Kelly is Trump’s second chief of staff. His first, Reince Priebus, left in the middle of the first year of his presidency. “


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...hief-of-staff/


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    Sen. King: Third of the Country Would See Impeachment as ‘Revenge,’ ‘Coup’ | Breitbart

    https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...-revenge-coup/

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    ^ yes, and that third are the ardent Trump supporters who faithfully believe every lie that Trump tweets.
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    From back in September

    FW: Let's Be Very Clear About What Breitbart's Leaked Google Video Shows

    “The staffer is clearly referring to the outcome of the election. But Pichai’s answer is best understood as an offhand reference to limiting the number of outright hoaxes that appear in Google results (such as the moves the company took to limit the spread of mass shooting conspiracy theories), not a call for mass partisan censorship.

    There are more than enough legitimate reasons to be skeptical of companies like Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon, which hold immense power over the internet and everyone’s personal data while offering little transparency and exhibiting monopolistic behavior. Upcoming Federal Trade Commission hearings about competition in the tech industry are about just that. But Trump and crew are not trying to build a fairer internet economy, as evidenced by virtually every policy they’ve pursued or advocated. They’re trying to hijack the levers of power to selectively build outrage against perceived opponents for the sole purpose of strong-arming them.”

    https://gizmodo.com/lets-be-very-cle...gle-1829019187

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Mueller findings corroborate three points of the Steele dossier. Can evidence of the pee-pee tape be far behind?

    The utterly lawless ‘Individual-1’

    On Friday, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said the latest filings “tell us nothing of value that wasn’t already known.” That’s true in the sense that recent findings essentially corroborate much of the 2016 “dossier” by former spy Christopher Steele — declared fraudulent by Trump — and its reports of extensive, compromising interactions between the Trump campaign and cronies of Russian President Vladimir Putin.


    The dossier’s assertion of Michael Cohen’s “ongoing secret liaison relationship” with Russian leadership has been confirmed by his now-exposed work on a Moscow Trump Tower well into 2016, which he lied about to Congress. The new revelations about Cohen also show that the dossier correctly identified Putin lieutenants Dmitry Peskov and Sergei Ivanov as the ones managing the Trump campaign for the Russian government.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.4afc33602a53
    Similarly, to the question of Trump and his people being outright compromised Russian spies. Any hard evidence to that effect wouldn’t tell us anything new either.

    Does Russia have Kompromat on Trump? Here's Putin's strange answer
    Analysis by Z. Byron Wolf, CNN
    Updated 5:10 PM EDT, Mon July 16, 2018
    (Does Russia have Kompromat on Donald Trump? Here's Vladimir Putin's answer - CNNPolitics)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/polit...ump/index.html



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    Yet another connection between the Republicans and the Russians moves to the plea deal phase.

    NRA-connected Russian spy set to plead 'guilty' in mystery deal with federal prosecutors

    But Butina’s world came crashing down in July when a grand jury indicted her on charges of conspiracy to act and failing to register as an agent of a foreign government. Despite Russian cries for her release, she’s been sitting in a federal prison ever since and now, she’s ready to make a deal to escape a possible 15-year prison sentence. From The Washington Post:


    Attorneys for Butina and federal prosecutors jointly requested in court documents Monday that U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan set a time for Butina to withdraw her previous plea of “not guilty.” They said they could be available for her to enter her plea as early as Tuesday.
    Focus on her boyfriend and partner-in-crime, American Republican operative Paul Erickson, appears to be intensifying. And for good reason:


    Erickson sent an infamous email to a top Trump campaign official in May 2016 slugged “Kremlin Connection,” seeking to use the setting of the 2016 NRA annual convention to establish “first contact” between Trump and Butina’s alleged handler, the Russian Central Banker and NRA life member Alexander Torshin.
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...al-prosecutors

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    ^ as in Watergate, follow the money.

    Did some of the $30M that the NRA gave to the Trump campaign, originally come from Russia? Was Maria Butina a plant at the campaign press conference and was it prearranged that Trump would pick her to ask a scripted question about Russian sanctions?

    MONEY TRAIL?
    Maria Butina’s guilty plea could tie the Trump campaign closer to Russia https://qz.com/1490015/maria-butinas...ssia-nra-ties/

    Butina worked with “a senior Russian official” believed to be Alexander Torshin, former deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank while on a student visa in the US, prosecuotors alleged in July, and attempted to infiltrate an unnamed US gun-rights groups. A May 2018 report from Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee alleged the Kremlin “used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign,” via Butina and Torshin, who was hit by US sanctions for his actions.
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    Cohen sentenced to three years.

    Michael Cohen gets 36 months in prison for Trump hush-money scheme

    As part of his plea, Cohen also admitted to tax fraud and other illegal business schemes.


    He faces another sentencing in a case brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who said Cohen cooperated with his investigation into Russian meddling and is not asking for additional prison time.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/mic...-money-scheme/
    And in regards to "the other case" mentioned above.

    Mueller attorney reveals Cohen provided ‘credible’ info about ‘links between a campaign and a foreign government’

    An attorney who works for special counsel Robert Mueller’s office on Wednesday revealed that former Trump “fixer” Michael Cohen had given them “credible” and “valuable” information about what she described as “links between a campaign and a foreign government.”


    As reported by Courthouse News’ Adam Klasfeld, Special Counsel’s Office prosecutor Jeannie Rhee told the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York that Cohen had given her office information about what is very likely connections between President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign and the Russian government.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/mue...gn-government/
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    Russians, Russians everywhere.

    Maria Butina’s boyfriend claimed he set up Trump-Russia NRA “conduit” as campaign funds flowed
    Republican operative Paul Erickson claimed in an email he’d set up a private Russia-GOP channel through the NRA

    Admitted Russian spy Maria Butina’s Republican operative boyfriend wrote in private communications that he was involved in setting up a “very private line of communication” between Russia and the Trump campaign using the National Rifle Association as a “conduit.”


    Butina, a 30-year-old Russian gun rights activist, worked for years to cultivate relationships within Republican and NRA circles. She was charged with working as an agent of the Russian government earlier this year and on Monday agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy charges and cooperate with prosecutors.


    In her plea deal, Butina admitted that she and “US Person 1,” who is longtime Republican operative Paul Erickson, “agreed and conspired, with a Russian government official,” whose description matches Russian banker and close Putin ally Alexander Torshin, for Butina to “act in the United States under the direction of Russian Official without prior notification to the Attorney General,” ABC News reported.


    Under Torshin’s direction, the document said, Butina “sought to establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over U.S. politics.”

    ---

    Butina continued to attend “friendship dinners” with prominent conservatives and later arranged for a group of Russians to attend the National Prayer Breakfast in February of 2017.


    In an email to Erickson, Butina wrote that the Russians were coming to the breakfast “to establish a back channel of communication,” The Daily Beast reported.


    Erickson sent the list of Russian attendees to another person and wrote, “Reaction to the delegation’s presence in America will be conveyed DIRECTLY” to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Lavrov.


    As these efforts were ongoing, the NRA was breaking spending records with sums of cash never before seen from the group.


    The NRA, relying on an arm of the group that is not required to disclose its donors, spent more than $30 million to elect President Donald Trump, nearly triple the $12.5 million they spent to help Republican nominee Mitt Romney in 2012. They spent $54 million in total to elect Republicans in 2016.


    Since the 2016 election, the NRA has cut its spending drastically. During the 2018 midterm cycle, McClatchy reported that the NRA had spent just $1.6 million to help Republicans, about 10 percent of the $16 million the group had spent backing GOP candidates in the 2014 midterms.


    But the NRA didn’t just spend a lot of money to help Trump win. Watchdog groups filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission accusing the NRA and the Trump campaign of illegally coordinating ads to influence the 2016 election. According to The Trace, both the NRA and Trump campaign illegally coordinated to the point where their ad buys were authorized by the same person at the National Media Research firm.


    “This is very strong evidence, if not proof, of illegal coordination,” Larry Noble, a former FEC general counsel, told The Trace. “This is the heat of the general election, and the same person is acting as an agent for the NRA and the Trump campaign.”


    The NRA’s struggles have continued. On Monday the gun-lobby group was forced to lay off at least one prominent host at its NRA TV outlet.


    After Trump’s election win, Butina wrote to Torshin, “I am ready for further orders.”


    https://www.salon.com/2018/12/12/mar...-funds-flowed/


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    Michael Cohen gets three years. Good place for a rat, in a cage. If he’s put into general population he may not make it out. There’s a lot of people inside that watch the news closely and know what’s going on. Im sure there’s a few Trump supporters around as well. For a lawyer, who’s been paid good money, and secures trust, turning on a client is a no no.
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    ^ Really? Turning on a client, that's where you (and allegedly Joe convict) draw the line?

    If Cohen's behaviour garners 3 years and the honourific of rat, then I'm pretty sure there's no suitable title, let alone enough years, available for Trump.

    What an utter misplacement of perspective.

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    Call me a rebel. lol

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    If Trump really wants to jail Hillary Clinton, he should just hire her.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Bill Clinton gets impeached and it’s a big yawn.

    Trump faces impeachment and he brings up notions of revolt.

    Is that the difference between the left wing and the right wing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudly View Post
    If Trump really wants to jail Hillary Clinton, he should just hire her.
    Good one...
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    The President of the United Stares is a felon.

    President Trump is a felon: Fox News legal analyst

    “The U.S. Attorney in Manhattan, a Donald Trump appointee taking a page from Jeff Sessions book, recused himself, leaving this case in the hands of the full-time career professional prosecutors,” he said. “They’re the ones that prosecuted Michael Cohen, told the federal judge that Donald Trump orchestrated these unlawful payments.”


    Trump appears to be guilty of a felony, said Napolitano.


    “The felony is paying Michael Cohen to commit a felony. It’s pretty basic,” he said, explaining how hiring someone to commit a crime makes you guilty of that crime. “You’re liable, criminally liable for the commission of that crime. That’s what the prosecutors told the federal judge.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/pre...legal-analyst/
    And

    BUSTED: National Enquirer admits it committed a felony ‘in concert with’ Trump’s campaign

    American Media, Inc., the parent company of the National Enquirer tabloid, admitted on Wednesday to committing a felony campaign finance violation “in concert with” Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.


    As announced by the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, AMI admitted to making a $150,000 hush-money payment to Playboy model Karen McDougal “in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/bus...umps-campaign/
    And

    Here are 5 details from Michael Cohen’s sentencing that are absolutely devastating for Trump

    Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s former personal attorney and the ex-deputy finance chair of the Republican National Committee, was sentenced to three years in jail on Wednesday as a part of the most significant chapter yet in the federal investigations encircling the president.


    And the undeniable intensity of the sentence was only one of the damning facts for the president revealed in the outcome of Cohen’s sentencing. The prosecutors from the Southern District of New York have already said that Trump directed Cohen to carry out criminal violations of campaign finance law — and the case directly against the president appears to only be getting stronger.


    Here are five other details that emerged from the sentencing that should be devastating for Trump:

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/5-details-michael-cohens-sentencing-absolutely-devastating-trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Michael Cohen gets three years. Good place for a rat, in a cage. If he’s put into general population he may not make it out. There’s a lot of people inside that watch the news closely and know what’s going on. Im sure there’s a few Trump supporters around as well. For a lawyer, who’s been paid good money, and secures trust, turning on a client is a no no.
    Fascinating opinion on what is proper behaviour among adults and subsequent expectations among the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Michael Cohen gets three years. Good place for a rat, in a cage. If he’s put into general population he may not make it out. There’s a lot of people inside that watch the news closely and know what’s going on. Im sure there’s a few Trump supporters around as well. For a lawyer, who’s been paid good money, and secures trust, turning on a client is a no no.
    You forgot that he did not rat out Trump.

    Instead, his office and hotel role was raided and they got all the evidence including emails, computer files, recordings and documents. He was going down hard and he decided to save his own skin.

    Trump demands loyalty but offers nothing in return.

    Trump lies and forces his associates to lie for him. When the lies are exposed, Trump throws them under a bus and then mocks them and disassociates himself. Trump is the snake if Cohen is the rat.

    You can judge a person by who he associates with. Trump surrounded himself with swamp scum. "Only the best people... "

    The noose around Trump's neck is slowly strangulating him

    Robert Mueller in 2020!
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    I suppose. I’m also thinking if he’s taking the rap for this maybe Trump won’t be charged for it. There is likely more to this than we could know.

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    It's kind of hard to claim he's taking the rap when he has said that he did it "at the direction of Donald Trump.".

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    If a crime was committed by two people, one cannot take the rap and the other goes scot free. That is not how the justice system works.

    Both are guilty of defrauding the American people.
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    He hires only the best people, at least until they're arrested. Then, he barely knows them if at all.

    Trump claims undercut his own alibi on Cohen by claiming he was 'mostly PR'

    Trump said that Cohen was “a big supporter” on the condo board of a Trump building and “seemed like a good guy.” This was apparently enough for Trump to hire Cohen, give him the office next to Trump’s, employ him for a decade, and make him vice president of the Trump Organization. Cohen must have been really impressive on that condo board.


    And after going out of his way to play up Cohen’s role as an all-knowing attorney who should have known better than to let his boss plan and carry out a criminal enterprise, Trump could not resist running down Cohen. Just as other longtime Trump advisers became passing acquaintances once they fell under the eye of Robert Mueller, Trump couldn’t help diminishing Cohen’s role even when it undercut his own alibi. Trump declared that Cohen did more public relations than legal work. When it came to being an on-air surrogate, Trump said that Cohen was ”okay on television." But when it came to Trump’s legal wrangling, Cohen was trusted with only "very low-level work."


    Which, again, is exactly what you would expect from someone who worked in the room next to Trump. And who was a senior vice president of the Trump Organization. For more than 10 years.


    Trump’s finished off with a slogan that seems a little bit diminished from what he promised the country before the election.


    Trump: I hire usually good people.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...-was-mostly-PR

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    How does do the NRA and Trump solve a problem like Maria?

    Russia claims Maria Butina is innocent of crime she just admitted to committing

    Russian national Maria Butina pleaded guilty Thursday to acting on behalf of the Russian government in her efforts to infiltrate the National Rifle Association (NRA) and make inroads with top Republican officials.


    But in Moscow, the plea deal means little.


    Russian officials continue to claim Butina is innocent, despite the fact that she is now facing up to five years in prison. The stance flies in the face of all available evidence, which showed Butina working at the behest of Alexander Torshin, a sanctioned Russian official who has been accused in Europe of overseeing massive money-laundering operations. Butina’s goals appear to have been lobbying to lift sanctions on Russia, without registering as a foreign agent.


    Hours before Butina entered her plea, the Russian Foreign Ministry demanded on Twitter that she be “release[d] as soon as possible.”

    https://thinkprogress.org/maria-buti...-32a8cc67897f/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    How does do the NRA and Trump solve a problem like Maria?
    The Sound of Mueller.

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    To the surprise of no one, Mueller expected to show Middle Eastern countries influencing (i.e. bribing) Trump campaign.

    Would explain why Trump is simultaneously sucking up to and excusing bad behaviour by Saudi Arabia, for example. Would also explain why he was so quick to pull out of the Iran deal beyond it being simply because it was negotiated by Obama.


    Mueller moves beyond Russia: Sources indicate the special counsel investigation is 'going global'

    Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office is preparing to reveal to the public a different side of his investigation. In court filings that are set to drop in early 2019, prosecutors will begin to unveil Middle Eastern countries’ attempts to influence American politics, three sources familiar with this side of the probe told The Daily Beast.

    Robert Mueller’s initial instructions were to conduct an investigation confined to “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.” However, the writ that Rod Rosenstein provided for the special counsel also notes that his authority includes “any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).” That would be the law defining the jurisdiction of special counsels, which also includes instructions on how the special counsel can seek additional jurisdiction if the office that it “is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation.”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...s-going-global

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    Tying Trump to Maria Butina and the payoffs through the NRA?


    When Trump called on Maria Butina in 2015, was someone close to him conspiring with her?

    It was a little odd in July 2015 when Donald Trump, just a few weeks after launching his presidential bid, threw a question at a Las Vegas event to a Russian woman who asked him about U.S. sanctions against her country.


    Trump was ready to riff. "Okay, Obama gets along with nobody. The whole world hates us," Trump began, before touching on U.S. relations with Mexico, China, and how current U.S. policy had "driven" Russia and China together.


    "I know Putin, and I’ll tell you what, we get along with Putin. Putin has no respect for President Obama. Big problem. Big problem," Trump asserted. "I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin, okay? And I mean where we have the strength. I don’t think you’d need the sanctions."


    The Russian woman was Maria Butina, who confessed on Thursday to working as a foreign agent of Russia in a conspiracy against the U.S. Butina had infiltrated conservative political circles, including the upper echelons of the National Rifle Association. But two key questions now are: Why did Trump call on Butina and why did he have a ready-made answer?


    That's certainly what Frank Figliuzzi, former FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence, wondered on MSNBC Thursday.


    "Think about that possibility," Figliuzzi posed to anchor Andrea Mitchell, "that someone tipped off the president to call on her [...] that gets right to the heart of whether or not someone around Trump is actually in conspiracy with, now, someone who's said, I was a foreign agent of Russia. This is a big deal."

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...iring-with-her

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    Shep Smith lays out the case against Flynn.

    ‘More Russia lies’: Shep Smith explodes on the startling string of falsehoods pushed by Flynn and Trump’s associates

    “So the U.S. places sanctions on Russia, Michael Flynn calls Russia. Michael Flynn lies about calling Russia and tells others to lie for him about calling Russia,” Smith said. “That is more Russia lies.”


    “From the very beginning, 17 different people, 80 to 90 different lies, all on different occasions, all about Russia, all without reason, all without context,” he added, turning his attention to the Trump Tower story. “One revelation after another revelation, and suddenly there were seven people in the room, and then suddenly eight people in the room. Suddenly there was a Russian translator in the room, and they had no knowledge of it.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/rus...ps-associates/

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