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    Happy Ramadan, everyone! 80,000 concert-goers evacuated from Rock AM Ring Festival in Nuremberg, Germany over serious terror threat:

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...p%3Fid%3D81417

    Photos in this article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...-over-10550046

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    Another couple of Happy Ramadan attacks in London today.

    The fact that so many people are willing to be apologists to the oppressive and deadly cult of Islam is beyond obscene.

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    Would like to see a wall around the city of Edmonton , specially for long weekends . How come , if it were such a Utopia and great place ...the people flee every chance they get for the rural country side ? ...think about it .

    They don't flee for the downtown ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Another couple of Happy Ramadan attacks in London today.

    The fact that so many people are willing to be apologists to the oppressive and deadly cult of Islam is beyond obscene.
    The "religion of peace" strikes again. Or perhaps a Catholic youth group? No.

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    I can't wait for liberals to teach me that:

    - we just need to be less "islamophobic"
    - we need to worry about Muslims' feelings when denouncing their attacks
    - somehow it's actually our fault for being bigoted
    - Islam is a peaceful religion
    - "prayers" for the victims and pretending nothing is wrong and just ignoring it is the best way to combat this
    - this is an attack a justified response to some war that was started two US Presidents ago
    - "but there are more gun deaths in the USA"
    - "but Muslims are more likely to be victims of terrorist attacks"
    - "but Christians killed thousands of Muslims centuries ago in the Crusades"


    I can't wait to learn all these lessons again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I can't wait for liberals to teach me that:

    - we just need to be less "islamophobic"
    - we need to worry about Muslims' feelings when denouncing their attacks
    - somehow it's actually our fault for being bigoted
    - Islam is a peaceful religion
    - "prayers" for the victims and pretending nothing is wrong and just ignoring it is the best way to combat this
    - this is an attack a justified response to some war that was started two US Presidents ago
    - "but there are more gun deaths in the USA"
    - "but Muslims are more likely to be victims of terrorist attacks"
    - "but Christians killed thousands of Muslims centuries ago in the Crusades"


    I can't wait to learn all these lessons again.
    me thinks it's not so much about religion but western meddling , it's psy ops, using these groups as a proxy...eg. weaponizing the Taliban to fight the Russians. Then think of all the bombs that killed their innocent woman and children....it be very hard not to hate or have resentment ....

    We feel the same when they carry out attacks , hurting our people and loved ones. We develop a hate for ...
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    So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot.
    George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I can't wait for liberals to teach me that:

    - we just need to be less "islamophobic"
    - we need to worry about Muslims' feelings when denouncing their attacks
    - somehow it's actually our fault for being bigoted
    - Islam is a peaceful religion
    - "prayers" for the victims and pretending nothing is wrong and just ignoring it is the best way to combat this
    - this is an attack a justified response to some war that was started two US Presidents ago
    - "but there are more gun deaths in the USA"
    - "but Muslims are more likely to be victims of terrorist attacks"
    - "but Christians killed thousands of Muslims centuries ago in the Crusades"


    I can't wait to learn all these lessons again.

    Sorry - I forgot the classic:

    - but not all Muslims are terrorists

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    Right

    Muslims = Terrorist


    We understand your bigoted, racist, Islamophobic rant.
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    I am old enough to remember the PLO attack in Munich, the FLQ crisis, blacks terrorised in the southern US, the IRA, the Lockerbie bombing, Air India bombing, the hundreds killed by the ETA Basque separatists, the Oklahoma city bombing, Red Army Faction and all the hijackings and other tragic terrorist and extremist acts. I condemn them all.

    I also don't label Irish Catholics, all Tamils, Palestinians, Sikhs, Americans as terrorists.

    Here is the reality.



    Don't be fooled by the Trump hype and 24/7 media coverage that there are Terrorists that will get you wherever you go. The goal of terrorism is to upset your normal life and live in fear. Some foolishly fall victim to their aims. I have less concern this year going on my European vacation compared to my 1977 greeting as we got to Frankfurt airport, the first person I saw in Germany was a policeman with a machine gun.

    Stay calm and carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by metro View Post
    So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot.
    George Orwell
    Orwell wrote that in 1940. Read on:

    “The Spanish war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.” - George Orwell




    George Orwell & 1984: Trump Is Not What He Had in Mind | National Review
    The True Lessons of 1984

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    by Nathan Schlueter
    February 9, 2017 4:00 AM
    The novel is a warning against socialism that Democrats should heed.

    One of the most intriguing developments in our current unpredictable political climate has been the Left’s co-opting of George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984 as a dramatic warning of the dangers of the Trump administration. The book has surged to first place on Amazon’s best-seller list, and a stage production is in the works. Michiko *Kakutani’s recent New York Timesarticle “Why ‘1984’ Is a 2017 Must-Read”highlights the kind of connections liberals are making between, say, KellyanneConway’s appeal to “alternative facts” and “Newspeak,” the reductive language of 1984 designed to “narrow the range of thought.”

    I, for one, wholeheartedly endorse Kakutani’s suggestion that people take up and read 1984, not only because any increase in substantive reading by ordinary Americans is a good thing, but also because readers may discover there something quite different from what they are being lead to expect, something that they have great need to know. 1984 is not a warning against populist despotism, troubling as that possibility may be. It is a warning against socialism, whose inner dynamic always tends towards totalitarianism.

    Begin with a fact that virtually every recent piece on 1984 fails to mention: The governing philosophy of Oceania is “English Socialism.” The ruler of Oceania, Big Brother, with his “heavy black mustache,” looks unmistakably like Joseph Stalin; members of the Party address one another as “Comrade”; and the non-party members of Oceania are called “proles” (short for proletariat), an allusion that clearly identifies the provenance of the ideas Orwell is criticizing. From its opening lines, 1984 captures the grim atmosphere and grinding poverty of socialism: “Winston Smith, his chin nuzzled in his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him. The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats.” The description could fit any city behind the Iron Curtain.
    ...

    https://www.google.ca/amp/amp.nation...at-he-had-mind


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    A critic of both socialism and capitalism:


    George Orwell: The Fight against Totalitarianism - The Free Radical Online

    "Orwell failed to ever adequately define Socialism "as he understood it" in a philosophical or political sense, but he did advocate a centrally-planned economy that could be combined with the tradition of English justice and decency. Ironically, what put him at odds with left-wing ideology, expressed in Marxism and Communism, was his intellectual honesty and his belief in objective truth, justice and decency. This led him quite rightly to criticise and despise left-wing ideologies and their intellectual perpetrators in Animal Farm and 1984, but he was unable to adequately identify their root causes. Capitalism was for him merely the instrument of a corrupt upper class to keep in place the same old unfair power structures inherent in a hierarchical society. For Orwell, an ideal society was one of absolute equality of all people that included equality of social status, income, and living standards: "...the equivocal moral position of Britain, with its democratic phrases and coolie empire, the sinister development of Soviet Russia, the squalid farce of left-wing politics - all this fades away and one sees only the struggle of the gradually-awakening common people against the lords of property and their hired liars and bumsuckers."

    The closest Orwell came to contemplating capitalism as the corollary of individual freedom and the antidote to totalitarianism was his review in 1944 of The Road to Serfdom by F. A. Hayek. He believed that the book's claims that planned economies ultimately lead to corruption, abuse of power and inequalities were overly pessimistic and dystopian. He conceded that the type of utopian equality in society that he longed for may never be possible, but it was something to strive for. Sadly, he had ruled out any possible moral arguments in defence of capitalism already, years before, as these had inextricably become linked in his mind with the unfair class system of the old British Empire. However, between the time of this review and his death there were signs that Orwell may have been coming around to the idea of the American form of capitalism as being compatible with freedom and justice. ..."


    http://www.freeradical.co.nz/content/58/Orwell.php


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    Here is a video clip of Becky Anderson (CNN London) hiring people and giving them pre-printed signs to stage a fake news story of Muslims protesting yesterday's Islamic terrorist attacks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ObbTX_nMGk


    Bottom line - CNN is lying to suppress the world's anger against ISIS and radical Islam. CNN has lost their last shred of credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I can't wait for liberals to teach me that:

    - we just need to be less "islamophobic"
    - we need to worry about Muslims' feelings when denouncing their attacks
    - somehow it's actually our fault for being bigoted
    - Islam is a peaceful religion
    - "prayers" for the victims and pretending nothing is wrong and just ignoring it is the best way to combat this
    - this is an attack a justified response to some war that was started two US Presidents ago
    - "but there are more gun deaths in the USA"
    - "but Muslims are more likely to be victims of terrorist attacks"
    - "but Christians killed thousands of Muslims centuries ago in the Crusades"


    I can't wait to learn all these lessons again.

    Sorry - I forgot the classic:

    - but not all Muslims are terrorists
    Not all Muslims are terrorists. In fact, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists.

    This is your lesson for today. You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East McCauley View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I can't wait for liberals to teach me that:

    - we just need to be less "islamophobic"
    - we need to worry about Muslims' feelings when denouncing their attacks
    - somehow it's actually our fault for being bigoted
    - Islam is a peaceful religion
    - "prayers" for the victims and pretending nothing is wrong and just ignoring it is the best way to combat this
    - this is an attack a justified response to some war that was started two US Presidents ago
    - "but there are more gun deaths in the USA"
    - "but Muslims are more likely to be victims of terrorist attacks"
    - "but Christians killed thousands of Muslims centuries ago in the Crusades"


    I can't wait to learn all these lessons again.

    Sorry - I forgot the classic:

    - but not all Muslims are terrorists
    Not all Muslims are terrorists. In fact, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists.

    This is your lesson for today. You're welcome.
    "Not all " ...but let's facts be facts I would like a percentage...with that said : I worked with a Samolian last week . Right away ....my ears perc up , I got in protective mode and mostly because of the propoganada put out by our police , system and media . With that said : he turn out to be the nicest of guy ....not saying I can voucher for him. But , pleasant experience .

    He told me ...the people lost faith in the system , why they don't co-operate ....cause back home their politicians , police corrupt , Funded With Western Money's . They depraved them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    Yeah most of those are reductions of long sentences that really don't match the crime at all.
    I'm fill you guys on how our legal system works. You have . Summery , hybrid , and inditable offences . What the Clinton's done is privatised and bring in a 3 strikes . You could do the most minor things and....they throw you in jail ....where the gangs get ahold of you , you have no choice in jail ! . You have to become a thug , you have to take initiation. Or get raped, beaten , or murdered . Most kids who were never given opertunity , come from broken homes....

    The Clinton's, the left are evil ......look at ' fast and furious ' ! They arming the cartels with guns. Benghazi....true evil .

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    Risk discussions so far have been rather simplistic and using historical stats being spun one way and the other.

    Below is another example of the nonsense, pointing out the nonsense of excluding 911 but then engaging in nonsense itself.

    The World Trade Centre attack killed ove 2,600 people but had the circumstances been slightly different it could have been far far higher. (Upwards of 15,000 I believe could have been in the buildings. Imagine the statistical shift that would create!) So while body count is a measure of past terrorist successes I don't see how it can be applied as a useful predictive tool for future risk posed by any group beyond highlighting creativity and access to WMDs like jetliners and maybe funding and coordination - all factors that change after an attack and the resulting state response.

    Numbers of incidences may be a better predictor as an indicator of the size and maybe dispersion of potential terrorism risk. I suspect some other factor(s) would be far more predictive of risk unless that risk is posed by some entrenched element in society seeking to breakaway from the controlling culture.



    No, You’re Not More Likely to Be Killed by a Right-Wing Extremist than an Islamic Terrorist – Areo Magazine

    "But surely the most blatant and deliberate skewing of the numbers here is in the fact that the biggest terror attack in the history of the United States is discounted by beginning the tally on 12th September 2001. Florida State College Professor Andrew Holt issued a thorough debunking of this report and the methods it uses. In it he points out that if one were to start the clock a day earlier and therefore include the approximately three thousand innocent lives taken on 9/11, then “there have been around 62 people killed in the United States by Islamic extremists for every one American killed by a right wing terrorist.”

    Another more recent report created by the Government Accountability Office and promoted by the CATO Institute claims that since 12th September 2001 (there’s that date again) there have been 62 traditional right-wing extremist “incidents” that resulted in death, compared to only 23 attributed to radical Islamic violence. However, this report doesn’t focus on death toll, and instead concentrates solely on the number of incidents. This misleading way of determining threat is then spun by the CATO institute as 73 percent of attacksbeing committed by right-wing groups even though the report states that 52.8 percent of deaths were at the hands of jihadists:

    “Attacks by domestic or ‘homegrown’ violent extremists in the United States resulted in 225 fatalities… Of these, 106 were killed by far right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents, and 119 were victims of radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents.”

    To reiterate; the threat level here is being determined by incident count rather than body count, so although jihadists killed more people, they are painted as being less of a risk. The ludicrousness of this methodology is inadvertently illustrated by Benjamin Dixon on the David Pakman Show:..."


    https://www.areomagazine.com/2017/05...amic-terrorist

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    Only cowards are concerned about what they call terrorism, Moslem or otherwise.

    Only cowards.

    Worse crime has been around since forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AShetsen View Post
    Only cowards are concerned about what they call terrorism, Moslem or otherwise.

    Only cowards.

    Worse crime has been around since forever.
    K.C you can't discount . As a metalergist , who works with metals every day , understands the properties...a steel structure does not free fall in its steps . Specially building 7 ! It was never even hit by a plane!

    The systems ' Flufferman ' a fraud ! Your smart enough...join the resistance ! Or be a coward!

    You know what we going do with cowards . We leave them with the wolves ...they end up eating themselves
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    I'm not tell you where our biggest bunker is but I help build it. It's bigger than our governments , tanks , vets . Not far from city . Our billionaires see it , our smartest ....why can't you. If it happens...There's a gateway from the leg to under the river . I hope you guys take shelter, over our politicians .
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    Here are the simple facts about Trump's travel ban as discussed on FOX New Sunday

    The two reasons that he stated that he needed the 120 day travel ban were:

    A. Imminent threat to the USA
    B. Needed time to prepare an extreme vetting plan.

    So 120 days passed.

    A. No attacks occurred in the USA
    B. The Trump Administration has not prepared an extreme vetting plan

    Am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by East McCauley View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I can't wait for liberals to teach me that:

    - we just need to be less "islamophobic"
    - we need to worry about Muslims' feelings when denouncing their attacks
    - somehow it's actually our fault for being bigoted
    - Islam is a peaceful religion
    - "prayers" for the victims and pretending nothing is wrong and just ignoring it is the best way to combat this
    - this is an attack a justified response to some war that was started two US Presidents ago
    - "but there are more gun deaths in the USA"
    - "but Muslims are more likely to be victims of terrorist attacks"
    - "but Christians killed thousands of Muslims centuries ago in the Crusades"


    I can't wait to learn all these lessons again.

    Sorry - I forgot the classic:

    - but not all Muslims are terrorists
    Not all Muslims are terrorists. In fact, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists.

    This is your lesson for today. You're welcome.

    Thank you for the deflective argument.

    No explain how that excuses Islamic terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AShetsen View Post
    Worse crime has been around since forever.
    Thank you for the insult and for this deflection.

    Please explain how those "worse crimes" excuse the death and destruction caused by Islamic terrorism we see today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Here are the simple facts about Trump's travel ban as discussed on FOX New Sunday

    The two reasons that he stated that he needed the 120 day travel ban were:

    A. Imminent threat to the USA
    B. Needed time to prepare an extreme vetting plan.

    So 120 days passed.

    A. No attacks occurred in the USA
    B. The Trump Administration has not prepared an extreme vetting plan

    Am I missing something?
    PRT we listen to enough of your thoughts and you been proven wrong every time....

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    Any leftists here wish to take a holiday to any Islamic state you wish ...seeing you hate guns , you can't have guns or vests . No military protection. ...come on ! Their peaceful ! ...

    Dare you . Double dare .

    Will set up a crowd fund
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    [QUOTE=champking;831146]Any leftists here wish to take a holiday to any Islamic state you wish ...seeing you hate guns , you can't have guns or vests . No military protection. ...come on ! Their peaceful ! ...

    Dare you . Double dare .

    Will set up a crowd fund. You could fill them in on global warming and carbon taxes ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by champking View Post
    Any leftists here wish to take a holiday to any Islamic state you wish ...seeing you hate guns , you can't have guns or vests . No military protection. ...come on ! Their peaceful ! ...

    Dare you . Double dare .

    Will set up a crowd fund
    Now that's a neat idea!!!!

    Get right-wingers to donate to challenge and pay for left-wingers to travel to {name a tourist accepting Islamic state} for say a two-week stay.

    I wonder how many people would donate and how much and I wonder if ANY left-winger would take up the challenge. (Note my sarcasm) My guess is that a surprisingly large number of 'wingers' (left and right) would jump to this challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champking View Post
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    Yeah most of those are reductions of long sentences that really don't match the crime at all.
    I'm fill you guys on how our legal system works. You have . Summery , hybrid , and inditable offences . What the Clinton's done is privatised and bring in a 3 strikes . You could do the most minor things and....they throw you in jail ....where the gangs get ahold of you , you have no choice in jail ! . You have to become a thug , you have to take initiation. Or get raped, beaten , or murdered . Most kids who were never given opertunity , come from broken homes....

    The Clinton's, the left are evil ......look at ' fast and furious ' ! They arming the cartels with guns. Benghazi....true evil .
    ...What. This is the worst parody of Trump I've ever read. Or maybe it's the best. Either way it makes no sense, yet strangely I could see Trump saying it.

    That was some fantastic word vomit. Throw as many terms you can think of out there, some of them have to stick. Benghazi and the Left are surefire home runs. Just forgot about Pizza-gate, that would have knocked it out of the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by champking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    Yeah most of those are reductions of long sentences that really don't match the crime at all.
    I'm fill you guys on how our legal system works. You have . Summery , hybrid , and inditable offences . What the Clinton's done is privatised and bring in a 3 strikes . You could do the most minor things and....they throw you in jail ....where the gangs get ahold of you , you have no choice in jail ! . You have to become a thug , you have to take initiation. Or get raped, beaten , or murdered . Most kids who were never given opertunity , come from broken homes....

    The Clinton's, the left are evil ......look at ' fast and furious ' ! They arming the cartels with guns. Benghazi....true evil .
    ...What. This is the worst parody of Trump I've ever read. Or maybe it's the best. Either way it makes no sense, yet strangely I could see Trump saying it.

    That was some fantastic word vomit. Throw as many terms you can think of out there, some of them have to stick. Benghazi and the Left are surefire home runs. Just forgot about Pizza-gate, that would have knocked it out of the park.
    What part you discounting ? Summery , hybrid , inditable....' fast and furious ' Bengazi? It's all true

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    Maybe some posters should sober up before they drink and post.
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    Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, and Egypt all announced they are imposing travel bans and cutting ties with Qatar over allegedly supporting terrorists:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gu...KBN18W0DQ?il=0


    Are they all just being islamophobic against Qatar?

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    From The Guardian this morning:
    "Britain’s head of counter-terrorism policing, Mark Rowley, has said a radical change of strategy is needed to halt jihadi terror attacks because there is now a “completely different level” of danger."
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...s-surveillance

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    The "Completely different level of danger" still isn't that high. We're not in London, but the risk of being hit by an inattentive driver while on the sidewalk is still much higher than being hit by a malicious one. I'm pretty confident that allocating 90% of my constant vigilance capacity to dangerous drivers and 10% to meth-heads is still the right choice.
    There can only be one.

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    Gunshots at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris


    - Attacker bashed a cop's head in with a hammer and tried to take his gun
    - Nearby cops shot attacker
    - Tourists and visitors all locked in the Cathedral for their safety while police do sweeps of the neighborhood
    - Some controlled explosions reported


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40178183

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    From the Times of London, May 27:
    Intelligence officers have identified 23,000 jihadist extremists living in Britain as potential terrorist attackers, it emerged yesterday.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/h...ists-3zvn58mhq

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    It doesn't help that London's mayor was a legal counsel for one of the terrorists responsible for 9/11 attacks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZM6ujJ983c

    Sadiq Khan - "Solicitor for the Nation of Islam"

    Explains why he is more concerned about banning the US president from visiting the UK, rather than banning people who are stabbing, shooting, bombing, and driving over UK citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    It doesn't help that London's mayor was a legal counsel for one of the terrorists responsible for 9/11 attacks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZM6ujJ983c

    Sadiq Khan - "Solicitor for the Nation of Islam"

    Explains why he is more concerned about banning the US president from visiting the UK, rather than banning people who are stabbing, shooting, bombing, and driving over UK citizens.
    ..So? John Adams (second president) defended the red coat soldiers responsible for the Boston Massacre. Why should a lawyer be guilty of his clients crimes?

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    Do you have a print/text report on this? Seems to me like the kind of thing the public might have liked to know before electing the guy if it's true.
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    Attorneys provide a valuable civil service and in America help uphold crucial parts of the constitution. Regardless of your views of Khan's mayorship, him providing this civil service is far from a legitimate gripe to have with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    Do you have a print/text report on this? Seems to me like the kind of thing the public might have liked to know before electing the guy if it's true.
    Apparently it was mentioned during London's election. Apparently Sadiq Khan also represented Louis Farrakhan (who was banned from UK for calling Judaism a ‘gutter religion’).

    He really knows how to pick scumbag radical Islamic clients to fight for.

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    This is Snopes so take it how you will.

    http://www.snopes.com/sadiq-khan-video/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    It doesn't help that London's mayor was a legal counsel for one of the terrorists responsible for 9/11 attacks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZM6ujJ983c

    Sadiq Khan - "Solicitor for the Nation of Islam"

    Explains why he is more concerned about banning the US president from visiting the UK, rather than banning people who are stabbing, shooting, bombing, and driving over UK citizens.
    Another one of your statements that displays your absolutely appalling lack of knowledge and understanding of democratic institutions - even if it were true what you simply regurgitate from certain websites....

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    Sadiq khan called moderate Muslims "Uncle Toms" in this 2009 interview for Iranian broadcaster:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPqHMcNUuP0

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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    This is Snopes so take it how you will.
    No reason to cite Snopes - that website has no more authority on these subjects than anyone here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    This is Snopes so take it how you will.
    No reason to cite Snopes - that website has no more authority on these subjects than anyone here.
    Except Snopes works with more than hearsay and parroted Breitbart pseudo-information.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Yeah most of those are reductions of long sentences that really don't match the crime at all.
    I'm fill you guys on how our legal system works. You have . Summery , hybrid , and inditable offences . What the Clinton's done is privatised and bring in a 3 strikes . You could do the most minor things and....they throw you in jail ....where the gangs get ahold of you , you have no choice in jail ! . You have to become a thug , you have to take initiation. Or get raped, beaten , or murdered . Most kids who were never given opertunity , come from broken homes....

    The Clinton's, the left are evil ......look at ' fast and furious ' ! They arming the cartels with guns. Benghazi....true evil .
    ...What. This is the worst parody of Trump I've ever read. Or maybe it's the best. Either way it makes no sense, yet strangely I could see Trump saying it.

    That was some fantastic word vomit. Throw as many terms you can think of out there, some of them have to stick. Benghazi and the Left are surefire home runs. Just forgot about Pizza-gate, that would have knocked it out of the park.
    What part you discounting ? Summery , hybrid , inditable....' fast and furious ' Bengazi? It's all true
    Much of the clandestine reality is actually just a big yawn. Snowden, DNC hacks and all the rest of the exposed emails, communications, dossiers, etc have proven to be extremely mild and rather pedestrian information, hardly anything, if anything at all, that was really juicy or stunning. The US government collecting meta data on US citizens, secret interrogation centres, undermining Sanders, saying boring things about foreign leaders...


    Like this:

    Fifty Years Later, NSA Keeps Details of Israel’s USS Liberty Attack Secret

    https://theintercept.com/2017/06/06/...attack-secret/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    This is Snopes so take it how you will.
    No reason to cite Snopes - that website has no more authority on these subjects than anyone here.
    Except Snopes works with more than hearsay and parroted Breitbart pseudo-information.
    As does everyone here.

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    Accused NSA leaker Reality Winner's motives a 'mystery' -- At least to ABC, NBC and CBS

    By Nicholas Fondacaro
    Published June 07, 2017 Fox News

    Not long after top-secret documents from the National Security Agency made their way onto the Internet news site The Intercept on Monday, the Justice Department arrested NSA contractor Reality Winner.

    The 25-year-old Air Force veteran worked on a military base in Georgia, but online she had a long history of being heavily anti-Trump, an apparent social justice warrior, and a supporter of Iran over the U.S. During their evening broadcasts, the Big Three Networks (ABC, CBS, and NBC) either played down her political attitudes, or outright ignored them as they reported on what she did.

    During his report on “NBC Nightly News,” Justice Correspondent Pete Williams passed along her family’s claim that “she wasn't highly political,” and anchor Lester Holt claimed her “motive is a mystery.” But in reality, Winner was anything but silent about her political views.

    ***Caution, Winner's social media posts contain very strong language***

    In a tweet she wrote earlier this year, she smeared Trump, saying: “the most dangerous entry to this country was the orange fascist we let into the White House.

    She had tweeted profanities targeting Trump, such as #F*ckingWall, #TrumpIsAC**t, and she tweeted the anti-Trump rallying cry of #notmypresident. Winner also was a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and had said on Twitter that “being white is terrorism.”

    And in a response to Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, who said “We will never use our weapons against anyone, except in self-defense,” Winner proclaimed her support for Iran, writing: “There are many Americans protesting U.S. govt aggression towards Iran. If our Tangerine in Chief declares war, we stand with you!”

    The closest Williams came to reporting Winner’s left-wing ideology was a mention about how “on Twitter, she's no fan of Donald Trump, once calling him an ‘orange fascist.’” But he played a clip of her mother, Billie Winner-Davis defending her daughter. “She is a good person. She volunteers, she does whatever she can to make the community and the world better,” she told the press.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...c-and-cbs.html

    How was she allowed anywhere near top secret documents?? I am very surprised that the lefty media misrepresented this story
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    How was trump allowed any where near top secret documents?

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    The craziest thing about this story is her name.
    There can only be one.

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    /\/\By winning the election.

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    Trump is floating the idea of putting solar panels on the Mexican border wall. Ha Ha, you can't make this stuff up.
    Let the sun shine in, let the sun shine in.


    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.3228316
    Gone............................and very quickly forgotten may I add.

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    Sell the power to Mexico, and suddenly they are paying for the wall. Ha ha.

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    Assuming Mexico would buy, of course. Get real.
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    Mexico will never pay for the wall. Even if Trump found a way to 'bill Mexico', Mexico would just raise prices on the food the USA imports to off-set the wall, but that will never happen anyways. Trump should be carefully with his protectionists stances. There's a reason America is in a trade deficit with just about every country in the modern world, and that's because they are one of the least self-sufficient countries. Starting trade wars with their trading partners is only going to cost american tax payers more for goods it imports which is just about everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howie View Post
    Assuming Mexico would buy, of course. Get real.
    So you hate solar power now?

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    /\/\By winning the election.
    "winning" yet to be decided.

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    Ramadan stats (12 days in):
    - 60 attacks, 19 countries
    - 832 deaths
    - 912 injuries


    May 27 — Charchino, Afghanistan — Group fighting in favor of imposing Islamic law ambushes checkpoint, kills 11.
    May 27 — Qadis, Afghanistan — Taliban kills 14, injures 17.
    May 27 — Khost, Afghanistan — Taliban suicide bomber targets U.S-backed National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF), which includes army and police units, killing 18, woundin six others, including children.
    May 27 — Kacha Khuh, Pakistan — “Honor Killing” — Brother hacks 18-year-old sister with axe to death for denying to abide by pre-arrange marriage.
    May 27 — Marawi, Philippines — Jihadists kill 19 including women and a child.
    May 28 — Marawi, Philippines — Jihadists murder 8 for “having betrayed their faith.”
    May 28 — Ramo Adey, Somalia — Jihadists bury man to his neck, stone to death for adultery
    May 28 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS sets hospital ablaze and kills a dozen young people inside.
    May 28 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS kills at least 40 women and children trying to flee besieged city.
    May 28 — Shirqat, Iraq — ISIS rocket attack kills three children and their parents.
    May 28 — Gumsri, Nigeria — Boko Haram kills at least seven villagers.
    May 28 — Shakhil Abad, Afghanistan — Islamic extremists kill district governor and his son inside their home.
    May 28 — Baqubah, Iraq — Suicide bomber kills 3, injures up to 16 others outside court.
    May 29 — Nguro, Nigeria — Boko Haram beheads five people.
    May 29 — Ghat, Libya, — Suspected Islamic terrorists kill 1, injure 4.
    May 29 — Shirqat, Iraq — Islamic shrapnel dismembers a child, injures 7.
    May 29 — Baghdad, Iraq — 17 killed, 32 wounded — ISIS launches suicide attack against ice cream parlor frequented by families who were breaking their Ramadan fast.
    May 29 — Baghdad, Iraq — 14 killed, 37 injured. ISIS attacked Shiites.
    May 30 — Mattani, Pakistan — Islamist gun down four peace committee members.
    May 30 — Peshawar, Pakistan — Suspected jihadist shoots leader of Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hezb-i-Islami group while he was leaving a mosque.
    May 30 — Shifa, Iraq — Mass grave found with 60 ISIS torture victims, including women, elderly.
    May 30 — al-Joura, Syria — ISIS mortar kills 14, including children.
    May 30 — Bay Hassan, Iraq — ISIS kills 3 Iraqi guards, wounds six others.
    May 30 — Baghdad, Iraq — Jihadists kill 7, injure 19 in a blast.
    May 30 — Baqubah, Iraq — A bomb explosion at mosque kills 7, wounds 6.
    May 30 — Hit, Iraq — Fedayeen suicide bomber kills 8, injures 10.
    May 31 — Kaya, Nigeria —Boko Haram kills 14.
    May 31 — Fafi, Kenya — Suspected al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabaab burns down school, kills one teacher.
    May 31 — Bab el-Beid, Iraq — Suicide bombers kill 3 civilians, including a child.
    May 31 — Hit, Iraq — Shahid suicide bomber kills 3, injures 7.
    May 31 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS kills 34 for trying to leave the city.
    May 31 — Mangai, Kenya — al-Qaeda-linked bombers kill 8.
    May 31 — Kabul, Afghanistan — Suspected Haqqani Network kills at least 150, Wounds more than 460, including 11 Americans.
    May 31 — Sinjar, Iraq — ISIS kills 2, injures 2.
    June 01 — Abala, Niger — Jihadists kill 6 guards.
    June 01 — Al-Hazm, Yemen — Terrorists kill 6, wound 15.
    June 01 — Behsud, Afghanistan — Suicide bomber kills 1, wounds 4.
    June 01 — Oldenburg, Germany — Muslim kills one for smoking during Ramadan and refusing to fast.
    June 01 — Zanjili, Iraq — ISIS kills 7 for trying to flee caliphate.
    June 02 — Kolofota, Cameroon — Islamist use two girls as suicide bombers killing 9 and wounding 30.
    June 02 — Sidi Bouzid, Tunisia — Jihadist beheads one man.
    June 03 — Marawi, Philippines — Islamic sniper kills 70-year-old man.
    June 03 — Halabsah, Iraq — Four suicide bombers kill 1, injure 3
    June 03 — London, England — Three Jihadists plow into pedestrians, then stab people, killing 7, injuring 48.
    June 03 — Zanjili, Iraq — ISIS kills 43 for trying to flee caliphate.
    June 03 — Lower Munda, India — Hizb-ul-Mujahideen kill 2 security troops, injure 4
    June 03 — Nawabshah, Pakistan — Alleged victim’s brother-in-law kills two people for alleged adultery.
    June 03 — Kabul, Afghanistan — Suicide bombers kill 20, injure 87
    June 04 — Kandahar, Afghanistan — Afghan police insider attack leaves six dead, one injured
    June 04 — Spini, Pakistan — Two Shiites from Hazara minority group killed.
    June 04 — Talibul, Moula, Pakistan — “Honor Killing” — Father kills 18-year-old daughter for allegedly “having an affair.”
    June 04 — Zanjili, Iraq — Wave of suicide bombers kills 32, injures 24.
    June 04 — Quaidabad, Pakistan — Jihadis kill 1 barber.
    June 05 — Melbourne, Australia — ISIS-linked migrant from Somalia kills man, takes prostitute hostage, an injures 4.
    June 05 — Baghdad, Iraq — Terrorist mortar fired into family home dismembers 10-year-old boy, injures 4.
    June 06 — Lower Munda, India — Hizb-ul-Mujahideen kill 2 security troops, injure 4
    June 06 — Paris, France — Jihadist wounds cop with a hammer outside Notre Dame cathedral.
    June 06 — Herat, Afghanistan — Terrorist kill 7, injure another 16 near the northern gate of the Great Mosque of Herat.
    June 06 — Garissa, Kenya — Suspected al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabaab jihadists kill 4 aid workers with land mine.
    June 07 — Mosul, Iraq — Islamic State massacres 160 civilians trying to flee city, according to United Nations.
    June 07 — Tehran, Iran — Sunni ISIS gunmen, suicide bombers attack Shiite country’s parliament and shrine to its revolutionary leader, kills 12, wounding up to 42.


    http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...-around-world/


    Why oh why don't the members of the Religion of Peace just give gifts to each other during their holy time of year like everyone else does?

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    Gun deaths in the U.S. May 27-June 7, 2017 (not counting injured or wounded or other methods) - 522

    http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

    Why oh why in the great nation of America don't people live in peace with each other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Ramadan stats (12 days in):
    - 60 attacks, 19 countries
    - 832 deaths
    - 912 injuries


    May 27 — Charchino, Afghanistan — Group fighting in favor of imposing Islamic law ambushes checkpoint, kills 11.
    May 27 — Qadis, Afghanistan — Taliban kills 14, injures 17.
    May 27 — Khost, Afghanistan — Taliban suicide bomber targets U.S-backed National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF), which includes army and police units, killing 18, woundin six others, including children.
    May 27 — Kacha Khuh, Pakistan — “Honor Killing” — Brother hacks 18-year-old sister with axe to death for denying to abide by pre-arrange marriage.
    May 27 — Marawi, Philippines — Jihadists kill 19 including women and a child.
    May 28 — Marawi, Philippines — Jihadists murder 8 for “having betrayed their faith.”
    May 28 — Ramo Adey, Somalia — Jihadists bury man to his neck, stone to death for adultery
    May 28 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS sets hospital ablaze and kills a dozen young people inside.
    May 28 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS kills at least 40 women and children trying to flee besieged city.
    May 28 — Shirqat, Iraq — ISIS rocket attack kills three children and their parents.
    May 28 — Gumsri, Nigeria — Boko Haram kills at least seven villagers.
    May 28 — Shakhil Abad, Afghanistan — Islamic extremists kill district governor and his son inside their home.
    May 28 — Baqubah, Iraq — Suicide bomber kills 3, injures up to 16 others outside court.
    May 29 — Nguro, Nigeria — Boko Haram beheads five people.
    May 29 — Ghat, Libya, — Suspected Islamic terrorists kill 1, injure 4.
    May 29 — Shirqat, Iraq — Islamic shrapnel dismembers a child, injures 7.
    May 29 — Baghdad, Iraq — 17 killed, 32 wounded — ISIS launches suicide attack against ice cream parlor frequented by families who were breaking their Ramadan fast.
    May 29 — Baghdad, Iraq — 14 killed, 37 injured. ISIS attacked Shiites.
    May 30 — Mattani, Pakistan — Islamist gun down four peace committee members.
    May 30 — Peshawar, Pakistan — Suspected jihadist shoots leader of Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hezb-i-Islami group while he was leaving a mosque.
    May 30 — Shifa, Iraq — Mass grave found with 60 ISIS torture victims, including women, elderly.
    May 30 — al-Joura, Syria — ISIS mortar kills 14, including children.
    May 30 — Bay Hassan, Iraq — ISIS kills 3 Iraqi guards, wounds six others.
    May 30 — Baghdad, Iraq — Jihadists kill 7, injure 19 in a blast.
    May 30 — Baqubah, Iraq — A bomb explosion at mosque kills 7, wounds 6.
    May 30 — Hit, Iraq — Fedayeen suicide bomber kills 8, injures 10.
    May 31 — Kaya, Nigeria —Boko Haram kills 14.
    May 31 — Fafi, Kenya — Suspected al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabaab burns down school, kills one teacher.
    May 31 — Bab el-Beid, Iraq — Suicide bombers kill 3 civilians, including a child.
    May 31 — Hit, Iraq — Shahid suicide bomber kills 3, injures 7.
    May 31 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS kills 34 for trying to leave the city.
    May 31 — Mangai, Kenya — al-Qaeda-linked bombers kill 8.
    May 31 — Kabul, Afghanistan — Suspected Haqqani Network kills at least 150, Wounds more than 460, including 11 Americans.
    May 31 — Sinjar, Iraq — ISIS kills 2, injures 2.
    June 01 — Abala, Niger — Jihadists kill 6 guards.
    June 01 — Al-Hazm, Yemen — Terrorists kill 6, wound 15.
    June 01 — Behsud, Afghanistan — Suicide bomber kills 1, wounds 4.
    June 01 — Oldenburg, Germany — Muslim kills one for smoking during Ramadan and refusing to fast.
    June 01 — Zanjili, Iraq — ISIS kills 7 for trying to flee caliphate.
    June 02 — Kolofota, Cameroon — Islamist use two girls as suicide bombers killing 9 and wounding 30.
    June 02 — Sidi Bouzid, Tunisia — Jihadist beheads one man.
    June 03 — Marawi, Philippines — Islamic sniper kills 70-year-old man.
    June 03 — Halabsah, Iraq — Four suicide bombers kill 1, injure 3
    June 03 — London, England — Three Jihadists plow into pedestrians, then stab people, killing 7, injuring 48.
    June 03 — Zanjili, Iraq — ISIS kills 43 for trying to flee caliphate.
    June 03 — Lower Munda, India — Hizb-ul-Mujahideen kill 2 security troops, injure 4
    June 03 — Nawabshah, Pakistan — Alleged victim’s brother-in-law kills two people for alleged adultery.
    June 03 — Kabul, Afghanistan — Suicide bombers kill 20, injure 87
    June 04 — Kandahar, Afghanistan — Afghan police insider attack leaves six dead, one injured
    June 04 — Spini, Pakistan — Two Shiites from Hazara minority group killed.
    June 04 — Talibul, Moula, Pakistan — “Honor Killing” — Father kills 18-year-old daughter for allegedly “having an affair.”
    June 04 — Zanjili, Iraq — Wave of suicide bombers kills 32, injures 24.
    June 04 — Quaidabad, Pakistan — Jihadis kill 1 barber.
    June 05 — Melbourne, Australia — ISIS-linked migrant from Somalia kills man, takes prostitute hostage, an injures 4.
    June 05 — Baghdad, Iraq — Terrorist mortar fired into family home dismembers 10-year-old boy, injures 4.
    June 06 — Lower Munda, India — Hizb-ul-Mujahideen kill 2 security troops, injure 4
    June 06 — Paris, France — Jihadist wounds cop with a hammer outside Notre Dame cathedral.
    June 06 — Herat, Afghanistan — Terrorist kill 7, injure another 16 near the northern gate of the Great Mosque of Herat.
    June 06 — Garissa, Kenya — Suspected al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabaab jihadists kill 4 aid workers with land mine.
    June 07 — Mosul, Iraq — Islamic State massacres 160 civilians trying to flee city, according to United Nations.
    June 07 — Tehran, Iran — Sunni ISIS gunmen, suicide bombers attack Shiite country’s parliament and shrine to its revolutionary leader, kills 12, wounding up to 42.


    http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...-around-world/


    Why oh why don't the members of the Religion of Peace just give gifts to each other during their holy time of year like everyone else does?
    Because to many people, other people aren't worthy of decent treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by howie View Post
    Assuming Mexico would buy, of course. Get real.
    So you hate solar power now?
    What a strange deduction. LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Ramadan stats (12 days in):
    - 60 attacks, 19 countries
    - 832 deaths
    - 912 injuries


    May 27 — Charchino, Afghanistan — Group fighting in favor of imposing Islamic law ambushes checkpoint, kills 11.
    May 27 — Qadis, Afghanistan — Taliban kills 14, injures 17.
    May 27 — Khost, Afghanistan — Taliban suicide bomber targets U.S-backed National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF), which includes army and police units, killing 18, woundin six others, including children.
    May 27 — Kacha Khuh, Pakistan — “Honor Killing” — Brother hacks 18-year-old sister with axe to death for denying to abide by pre-arrange marriage.
    May 27 — Marawi, Philippines — Jihadists kill 19 including women and a child.
    May 28 — Marawi, Philippines — Jihadists murder 8 for “having betrayed their faith.”
    May 28 — Ramo Adey, Somalia — Jihadists bury man to his neck, stone to death for adultery
    May 28 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS sets hospital ablaze and kills a dozen young people inside.
    May 28 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS kills at least 40 women and children trying to flee besieged city.
    May 28 — Shirqat, Iraq — ISIS rocket attack kills three children and their parents.
    May 28 — Gumsri, Nigeria — Boko Haram kills at least seven villagers.
    May 28 — Shakhil Abad, Afghanistan — Islamic extremists kill district governor and his son inside their home.
    May 28 — Baqubah, Iraq — Suicide bomber kills 3, injures up to 16 others outside court.
    May 29 — Nguro, Nigeria — Boko Haram beheads five people.
    May 29 — Ghat, Libya, — Suspected Islamic terrorists kill 1, injure 4.
    May 29 — Shirqat, Iraq — Islamic shrapnel dismembers a child, injures 7.
    May 29 — Baghdad, Iraq — 17 killed, 32 wounded — ISIS launches suicide attack against ice cream parlor frequented by families who were breaking their Ramadan fast.
    May 29 — Baghdad, Iraq — 14 killed, 37 injured. ISIS attacked Shiites.
    May 30 — Mattani, Pakistan — Islamist gun down four peace committee members.
    May 30 — Peshawar, Pakistan — Suspected jihadist shoots leader of Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hezb-i-Islami group while he was leaving a mosque.
    May 30 — Shifa, Iraq — Mass grave found with 60 ISIS torture victims, including women, elderly.
    May 30 — al-Joura, Syria — ISIS mortar kills 14, including children.
    May 30 — Bay Hassan, Iraq — ISIS kills 3 Iraqi guards, wounds six others.
    May 30 — Baghdad, Iraq — Jihadists kill 7, injure 19 in a blast.
    May 30 — Baqubah, Iraq — A bomb explosion at mosque kills 7, wounds 6.
    May 30 — Hit, Iraq — Fedayeen suicide bomber kills 8, injures 10.
    May 31 — Kaya, Nigeria —Boko Haram kills 14.
    May 31 — Fafi, Kenya — Suspected al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabaab burns down school, kills one teacher.
    May 31 — Bab el-Beid, Iraq — Suicide bombers kill 3 civilians, including a child.
    May 31 — Hit, Iraq — Shahid suicide bomber kills 3, injures 7.
    May 31 — Mosul, Iraq — ISIS kills 34 for trying to leave the city.
    May 31 — Mangai, Kenya — al-Qaeda-linked bombers kill 8.
    May 31 — Kabul, Afghanistan — Suspected Haqqani Network kills at least 150, Wounds more than 460, including 11 Americans.
    May 31 — Sinjar, Iraq — ISIS kills 2, injures 2.
    June 01 — Abala, Niger — Jihadists kill 6 guards.
    June 01 — Al-Hazm, Yemen — Terrorists kill 6, wound 15.
    June 01 — Behsud, Afghanistan — Suicide bomber kills 1, wounds 4.
    June 01 — Oldenburg, Germany — Muslim kills one for smoking during Ramadan and refusing to fast.
    June 01 — Zanjili, Iraq — ISIS kills 7 for trying to flee caliphate.
    June 02 — Kolofota, Cameroon — Islamist use two girls as suicide bombers killing 9 and wounding 30.
    June 02 — Sidi Bouzid, Tunisia — Jihadist beheads one man.
    June 03 — Marawi, Philippines — Islamic sniper kills 70-year-old man.
    June 03 — Halabsah, Iraq — Four suicide bombers kill 1, injure 3
    June 03 — London, England — Three Jihadists plow into pedestrians, then stab people, killing 7, injuring 48.
    June 03 — Zanjili, Iraq — ISIS kills 43 for trying to flee caliphate.
    June 03 — Lower Munda, India — Hizb-ul-Mujahideen kill 2 security troops, injure 4
    June 03 — Nawabshah, Pakistan — Alleged victim’s brother-in-law kills two people for alleged adultery.
    June 03 — Kabul, Afghanistan — Suicide bombers kill 20, injure 87
    June 04 — Kandahar, Afghanistan — Afghan police insider attack leaves six dead, one injured
    June 04 — Spini, Pakistan — Two Shiites from Hazara minority group killed.
    June 04 — Talibul, Moula, Pakistan — “Honor Killing” — Father kills 18-year-old daughter for allegedly “having an affair.”
    June 04 — Zanjili, Iraq — Wave of suicide bombers kills 32, injures 24.
    June 04 — Quaidabad, Pakistan — Jihadis kill 1 barber.
    June 05 — Melbourne, Australia — ISIS-linked migrant from Somalia kills man, takes prostitute hostage, an injures 4.
    June 05 — Baghdad, Iraq — Terrorist mortar fired into family home dismembers 10-year-old boy, injures 4.
    June 06 — Lower Munda, India — Hizb-ul-Mujahideen kill 2 security troops, injure 4
    June 06 — Paris, France — Jihadist wounds cop with a hammer outside Notre Dame cathedral.
    June 06 — Herat, Afghanistan — Terrorist kill 7, injure another 16 near the northern gate of the Great Mosque of Herat.
    June 06 — Garissa, Kenya — Suspected al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabaab jihadists kill 4 aid workers with land mine.
    June 07 — Mosul, Iraq — Islamic State massacres 160 civilians trying to flee city, according to United Nations.
    June 07 — Tehran, Iran — Sunni ISIS gunmen, suicide bombers attack Shiite country’s parliament and shrine to its revolutionary leader, kills 12, wounding up to 42.


    http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...-around-world/


    Why oh why don't the members of the Religion of Peace just give gifts to each other during their holy time of year like everyone else does?
    Because to many people, other people aren't worthy of decent treatment.
    This is much more than lack of "decent treatment".

    These are attacks, deaths and injuries during their holy month in the name of their (supposed) religion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man From YEG View Post
    Gun deaths in the U.S. May 27-June 7, 2017 (not counting injured or wounded or other methods) - 522

    http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

    Why oh why in the great nation of America don't people live in peace with each other?
    Why isn't the alt-right media all over this?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Man From YEG View Post
    Gun deaths in the U.S. May 27-June 7, 2017 (not counting injured or wounded or other methods) - 522

    http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

    Why oh why in the great nation of America don't people live in peace with each other?
    Why isn't the alt-right media all over this?!?!
    No Muslims involved.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    This is much more than lack of "decent treatment".

    These are attacks, deaths and injuries during their holy month in the name of their (supposed) religion!
    In the United States, gun ownership is THE religion.

    And after people get shot, they treatment they get is often at their cost because of poor health coverage and getting Shor in the US can be considered a preexisting condition. .. FCOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Man From YEG View Post
    Gun deaths in the U.S. May 27-June 7, 2017 (not counting injured or wounded or other methods) - 522

    http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

    Why oh why in the great nation of America don't people live in peace with each other?
    Why isn't the alt-right media all over this?!?!
    No Muslims involved.
    Nope. The news ignores gun deaths in the USA for the same reason our news ignores reports when another car bomb goes off in Iraq or Afghanistan. "News" is a change in the status quo.

    Another armed robbery in the USA or another mosque/church getting blown up in the Middle East isn't news, it's just Tuesday.

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    ^So we shouldn't be concerned with crime as long as it's the status quo?

    Well then according to you, we just have to wait 5 years and then we won't have to worry about it, there will be so much terrorism that it will be completely normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    ^So we shouldn't be concerned with crime as long as it's the status quo?

    Well then according to you, we just have to wait 5 years and then we won't have to worry about it, there will be so much terrorism that it will be completely normal.
    Its almost normal now. Which is the sad part of life.

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    There was more terrorism in the western world in the 1970''s than there is now.

    Difference being the 24 hr news channels and the politicized use of terrorism to enhance security to Orwell's 1984 levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    There was more terrorism in the western world in the 1970''s than there is now.

    Difference being the 24 hr news channels and the politicized use of terrorism to enhance security to Orwell's 1984 levels.
    I am just old enough to remember the 70's and yes, there was more terrorism. Hijacking planes, holding hostages and kidnapping were big terrorist activities then and there were all these different terrorist groups in a number of European countries. The IRA was big into planting bombs in busy public places in England and they killed many, many more people than in the recent terrorist attacks in London and Manchester.

    There was no 24 hour TV news back then, so while it all got coverage back then it was not so pervasive as now. The 24 hour news coverage now can go on about one terrorist act for hours and hours or even days. I understand they are trying to fill air space and terrorist acts are the type of sensational events that get some people to watch or watch more, but it also gives this false impression of the world being much more dangerous than it is.

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    ^Well as bad as all terrorism is comparing the IRA to ISIS or the Taliban is not the best comparison. True the IRA killed a lot of people in the U K but the terrorists groups that are operating now have spread a lot wider net throughout the world. The terrorists operating now could strike anywhere and use their twisted ideology for the reason. . As for the news medias that are reporting these atrocities. At least the western media is being less politically correct and starting to call out who it is, Islamic extremists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    ^Well as bad as all terrorism is comparing the IRA to ISIS or the Taliban is not the best comparison. True the IRA killed a lot of people in the U K but the terrorists groups that are operating now have spread a lot wider net throughout the world. The terrorists operating now could strike anywhere and use their twisted ideology for the reason. . As for the news medias that are reporting these atrocities. At least the western media is being less politically correct and starting to call out who it is, Islamic extremists.
    Isis makes the IRA look like choir boys!

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    ^Well as bad as all terrorism is comparing the IRA to ISIS or the Taliban is not the best comparison. True the IRA killed a lot of people in the U K but the terrorists groups that are operating now have spread a lot wider net throughout the world. The terrorists operating now could strike anywhere and use their twisted ideology for the reason. . As for the news medias that are reporting these atrocities. At least the western media is being less politically correct and starting to call out who it is, Islamic extremists.
    Isis makes the IRA look like choir boys!
    I doubt all the people killed by the IRA would agree with you. I don't think it matters much whether you are killed by the better terrorists or the worse terrorists. Also, history has a way of making atrocity fade and not seem so bad.

    Perhaps ISIS is better at propaganda - they are very skilled at scaring the people of the west. They hope we will over react and take action randomly against Muslims and Arabs. It will create more anger and help them get more recruits. In this goal, they have already been somewhat successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
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    ^Well as bad as all terrorism is comparing the IRA to ISIS or the Taliban is not the best comparison. True the IRA killed a lot of people in the U K but the terrorists groups that are operating now have spread a lot wider net throughout the world. The terrorists operating now could strike anywhere and use their twisted ideology for the reason. . As for the news medias that are reporting these atrocities. At least the western media is being less politically correct and starting to call out who it is, Islamic extremists.
    Isis makes the IRA look like choir boys!
    I doubt all the people killed by the IRA would agree with you. I don't think it matters much whether you are killed by the better terrorists or the worse terrorists. Also, history has a way of making atrocity fade and not seem so bad.

    Perhaps ISIS is better at propaganda - they are very skilled at scaring the people of the west. They hope we will over react and take action randomly against Muslims and Arabs. It will create more anger and help them get more recruits. In this goal, they have already been somewhat successful.
    The IRA didnt single out children, ISIS or their followers are cowardly *****

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    ^Well as bad as all terrorism is comparing the IRA to ISIS or the Taliban is not the best comparison. True the IRA killed a lot of people in the U K but the terrorists groups that are operating now have spread a lot wider net throughout the world. The terrorists operating now could strike anywhere and use their twisted ideology for the reason. . As for the news medias that are reporting these atrocities. At least the western media is being less politically correct and starting to call out who it is, Islamic extremists.
    Isis makes the IRA look like choir boys!
    I doubt all the people killed by the IRA would agree with you. I don't think it matters much whether you are killed by the better terrorists or the worse terrorists. Also, history has a way of making atrocity fade and not seem so bad.

    Perhaps ISIS is better at propaganda - they are very skilled at scaring the people of the west. They hope we will over react and take action randomly against Muslims and Arabs. It will create more anger and help them get more recruits. In this goal, they have already been somewhat successful.
    The IRA didnt single out children, ISIS or their followers are cowardly *****
    The "better" terrorists only kill adults?The bombs never distinguish between adults or children when they blow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
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    ^Well as bad as all terrorism is comparing the IRA to ISIS or the Taliban is not the best comparison. True the IRA killed a lot of people in the U K but the terrorists groups that are operating now have spread a lot wider net throughout the world. The terrorists operating now could strike anywhere and use their twisted ideology for the reason. . As for the news medias that are reporting these atrocities. At least the western media is being less politically correct and starting to call out who it is, Islamic extremists.
    Isis makes the IRA look like choir boys!
    I doubt all the people killed by the IRA would agree with you. I don't think it matters much whether you are killed by the better terrorists or the worse terrorists. Also, history has a way of making atrocity fade and not seem so bad.

    Perhaps ISIS is better at propaganda - they are very skilled at scaring the people of the west. They hope we will over react and take action randomly against Muslims and Arabs. It will create more anger and help them get more recruits. In this goal, they have already been somewhat successful.
    The IRA didnt single out children, ISIS or their followers are cowardly *****
    The "better" terrorists only kill adults?The bombs never distinguish between adults or children when they blow up.
    That's not what I said, and you know it. Soft targets????????????

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    Stop the spread of Islam now and the Western world will stop sliding backwards towards the terrorism levels of 1970s.

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    Well then according to you, we just have to wait 5 years and then we won't have to worry about it, there will be so much terrorism that it will be completely normal.

    That's exactly my fear. I don't want terrorism to become "normal" in our part of the world the same way it is in so many Islamic countries. But Europe is sadly heading in that direction. We here in Canada will too if we stop being stingy about who to let immigrate here.

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    Well then according to you, we just have to wait 5 years and then we won't have to worry about it, there will be so much terrorism that it will be completely normal.

    That's exactly my fear. I don't want terrorism to become "normal" in our part of the world the same way it is in so many Islamic countries. But Europe is sadly heading in that direction. We here in Canada will too if we stop being stingy about who to let immigrate here.
    Well the real goal of terrorists is to spread fear of themselve, so I it would appear they have already succeeded with you. You can go and hide under your bed now, no need to wait 5 years.

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    No.

    Read what I said again - I am not afraid of terror attacks. I am afraid of people becoming tolerant of terrorist attacks.

    Huge difference.

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    Stop the spread of Islam now and the Western world will stop sliding backwards towards the terrorism levels of 1970s.
    How do you propose that? There are 1.7 billion Muslims.

    Are you suggesting religious persecution, forced convesion, sterilization or extermination?

    I love to hear the response to your silly open ended statement.
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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. But what's your point, exactly? I can't always follow your employer's objective.

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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. But what's your point, exactly? I can't always follow your employer's objective.
    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years

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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. .
    Yes, deport her

    Who are you? Do you normally post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgeman View Post
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    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years
    Horrible, beyond horrible .What's your point exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Horrible, beyond horrible .What's your point exactly?
    Are you referring to Trump's ad nausium and blatantly absurd contradictory Tweet's? Or your absurd contradictory complaints???

    No, no. After you, please. What's your point with respect to "Trump on immigration"????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgeman View Post
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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. But what's your point, exactly? I can't always follow your employer's objective.
    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years
    The guy is a monster. How do you equate his heinous crime to Christianity? It seems irrelevant and not mentioned in the Edmonton Journal article.

    The other crimes are where people have openly stated that their violent actions are inspired by their twisted interpretation of Islam or have seemingly used Islam as the rationale or excuse. A super small minority, but a violent one that society should not ignore.

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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. But what's your point, exactly? I can't always follow your employer's objective.
    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years
    The guy is a monster. How do you equate his heinous crime to Christianity? It seems irrelevant and not mentioned in the Edmonton Journal article.

    The other crimes are where people have openly stated that their violent actions are inspired by their twisted interpretation of Islam or have seemingly used Islam as the rationale or excuse. A super small minority, but a violent one that society should not ignore.
    Not sure if this guy has a valid argument or not:

    Driver In Deadly Times Square Tragedy Said God Made Him Do It
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    Stop the spread of Islam now and the Western world will stop sliding backwards towards the terrorism levels of 1970s.
    How do you propose that? There are 1.7 billion Muslims.

    Are you suggesting religious persecution, forced convesion, sterilization or extermination?

    I love to hear the response to your silly open ended statement.
    I'm sure everyone reading that post realizes the poster was referring to stopping the spread of Islamic terrorists. Of course, with you being so eager to prove you are right in every thread on the board you had to slam yourself right into the middle and try to be smart. Or maybe you were the only one to not realize what he actually meant and therefore must be rather thick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. But what's your point, exactly? I can't always follow your employer's objective.
    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years
    The guy is a monster. How do you equate his heinous crime to Christianity? It seems irrelevant and not mentioned in the Edmonton Journal article.

    The other crimes are where people have openly stated that their violent actions are inspired by their twisted interpretation of Islam or have seemingly used Islam as the rationale or excuse. A super small minority, but a violent one that society should not ignore.
    Not sure if this guy has a valid argument or not:

    Driver In Deadly Times Square Tragedy Said God Made Him Do It
    May 19, 2017135 Comments
    by: David G. McAfee

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...ade-him-do-it/
    If he said God made him do it, who are we to say that is not what he believes? He is a nut just like those who justify their violence using Alah. There just seems a lot more nuts using Alah as an excuse lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metro View Post
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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. But what's your point, exactly? I can't always follow your employer's objective.
    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years
    The guy is a monster. How do you equate his heinous crime to Christianity? It seems irrelevant and not mentioned in the Edmonton Journal article.

    The other crimes are where people have openly stated that their violent actions are inspired by their twisted interpretation of Islam or have seemingly used Islam as the rationale or excuse. A super small minority, but a violent one that society should not ignore.
    Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!! (Winner, winner, chicken dinner ...) Thank you for catching the irrelevance. Christianity or any other religion.

    Whether stated or not, an individual's chosen religion AND the individual's actions are not definitive of said religion's principles.

    Please, let's move on from Hello Lady's employer's agenda.

    If you're not convinced, here's a clue. When someone states, "my <god of choice> made me do it," take it with a grain of salt.

    Everyone on board?

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    Awesome. What a nut-bar lady. But what's your point, exactly? I can't always follow your employer's objective.
    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years
    The guy is a monster. How do you equate his heinous crime to Christianity? It seems irrelevant and not mentioned in the Edmonton Journal article.

    The other crimes are where people have openly stated that their violent actions are inspired by their twisted interpretation of Islam or have seemingly used Islam as the rationale or excuse. A super small minority, but a violent one that society should not ignore.
    Not sure if this guy has a valid argument or not:

    Driver In Deadly Times Square Tragedy Said God Made Him Do It
    May 19, 2017135 Comments
    by: David G. McAfee

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...ade-him-do-it/
    Well, in all fairness people have been saying God made them do things for a long time. Same as people saying the devil made them do something. Neither explanations are valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metro View Post
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    Exactly

    What a ridiculous post Lady. Lets look even closer to home - a white Christian man doing this to his daughters.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...n-of-six-years
    The guy is a monster. How do you equate his heinous crime to Christianity? It seems irrelevant and not mentioned in the Edmonton Journal article.

    The other crimes are where people have openly stated that their violent actions are inspired by their twisted interpretation of Islam or have seemingly used Islam as the rationale or excuse. A super small minority, but a violent one that society should not ignore.
    Not sure if this guy has a valid argument or not:

    Driver In Deadly Times Square Tragedy Said God Made Him Do It
    May 19, 2017135 Comments
    by: David G. McAfee

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...ade-him-do-it/
    If he said God made him do it, who are we to say that is not what he believes? He is a nut just like those who justify their violence using Alah. There just seems a lot more nuts using Alah as an excuse lately.
    Very true!!! Allah is screamed out all over this world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
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    Stop the spread of Islam now and the Western world will stop sliding backwards towards the terrorism levels of 1970s.
    How do you propose that? There are 1.7 billion Muslims.

    Are you suggesting religious persecution, forced convesion, sterilization or extermination?

    I love to hear the response to your silly open ended statement.
    I'm sure everyone reading that post realizes the poster was referring to stopping the spread of Islamic terrorists. Of course, with you being so eager to prove you are right in every thread on the board you had to slam yourself right into the middle and try to be smart. Or maybe you were the only one to not realize what he actually meant and therefore must be rather thick.
    LOL, the latter, he's thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spill View Post
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    Horrible, beyond horrible .What's your point exactly?
    Are you referring to Trump's ad nausium and blatantly absurd contradictory Tweet's? Or your absurd contradictory complaints???

    No, no. After you, please. What's your point with respect to "Trump on immigration"????
    Don't be polite now, shrimpy.

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    ^^ Then bloody well articulate a proper conversation.

    It was a sweeping statement of the second largest religion in the World. Don't blame me for the OP's mistake.

    You are talking about extremists that constitute a fraction of one percent of the followers of Islam.
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