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    Its a sad reflection on you, you're one of the biggest hypocrites here, and you seem caught up in a spirally world of misinformation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Its a sad reflection on you, you're one of the biggest hypocrites here, and you seem caught up in a spirally world of misinformation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Its a sad reflection on you, you're one of the biggest hypocrites here, and you seem caught up in a spirally world of misinformation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Nope, H.L. just is despondent that he missed the opportunity to play 'Devil's Triangle' (not the Kavanaugh drinking game version) with Trump and Stormy.
    Well, H.L. is a female (I think it was Hello Lady, or Horny Lady or something), so there wouldn't be any Devil's Triangle being played with Kavanaugh.

    As for Stormy, I believe she's transitioned into more porn directing than starring in it. I can't recall where I read that; I'm not up on the porn industry.

    I also find it odd that Trump would be making fun of the looks of someone he paid for sex. Why would you pay to have sex with someone you think has a "horse face"?
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    I’m not caught up in any sides bs. Politicians are basically all a bunch of liars, crooks, narcissists and a lot of other bad things. That’s why I love seeing someone upset tha apple cart so to speak. I’m also a realist seeing good and bad and not falling into the trump trap or the democratic trap, which seems awful right now as well. So the only thing to do take the best you can from the present government which is actually making some headway despite all the misgivings. But to fall into a side with any of these low life’s , not me. I am generally anti establishment is all.

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    These are the people that Trump is defending.
    “When I do this job, I listen to music,” Tubaigy said on the recording.
    So obviously this isn't his first time.

    Jamal Khashoggi tortured with bone saw for 7 minutes while Saudi killer drowned out screams with music: Turkish source

    “The consul himself was taken out of the room,” the source told the website. “There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him.”


    The screaming stopped when Khashoggi was injected with an unknown substance.


    The head of forensic evidence in the Saudi general security department, Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, was among a 15-man squad who arrived in Turkey earlier that day by private jet.


    The source said Tubaigy started to cut up Khashoggi’s body on a table in the study while the journalist was still alive — and the killing took seven minutes.


    Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music as he dismembered Khashoggi’s body with a bone saw, and he advised other squad members to do the same.


    “When I do this job, I listen to music,” Tubaigy said on the recording. “You should do [that] too.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/jam...screams-music/
    Really strange behaviour if they didn’t expect anyone to ever hear about the killing.
    Khashoggi activated recording on his AppleWatch before entering the building. Apparently the kill team were unaware of this fact.

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    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.

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    Trump and his family needs the Saudi's money now that Russia has dried up. He'll do the least possible while talking big about what he's going to do without actually doing it.

    That's the pathology of his whole life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I’m not caught up in any sides bs. Politicians are basically all a bunch of liars, crooks, narcissists and a lot of other bad things. That’s why I love seeing someone upset tha apple cart so to speak. I’m also a realist seeing good and bad and not falling into the trump trap or the democratic trap, which seems awful right now as well. So the only thing to do take the best you can from the present government which is actually making some headway despite all the misgivings. But to fall into a side with any of these low life’s , not me. I am generally anti establishment is all.
    JT is a fake and a liar..his foundation has foreign money in it all the time..
    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/tr...ard-bombardier

    Bombardier received a $372.5-million loan package announced in February for Bombardier’s CSeries and Global 7000 aircraft programs. At which point the executives provided themselves with a wage increase of $10 million.( that must be the 1% he keeps banging on about)

    He's no better than Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.
    There you go again. Loose cannon. If the whole world would take action against them together it would be great to break their sorry asses...but even if we did all we possibly could they would just buy from the ruskies sell to China and others etc and laugh at us. Think about it before you fly off on a tangent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Nope, H.L. just is despondent that he missed the opportunity to play 'Devil's Triangle' (not the Kavanaugh drinking game version) with Trump and Stormy.
    Well, H.L. is a female (I think it was Hello Lady, or Horny Lady or something), so there wouldn't be any Devil's Triangle being played with Kavanaugh.

    As for Stormy, I believe she's transitioned into more porn directing than starring in it. I can't recall where I read that; I'm not up on the porn industry.

    I also find it odd that Trump would be making fun of the looks of someone he paid for sex. Why would you pay to have sex with someone you think has a "horse face"?

    I posted this before, he wasn't interested in her face..

    Why would she have sex with someone whose junk she made fun of, oh right, she's a hooker $$$$$$$$
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    Gee, why would Trump feel he needs to defend the Saudis?

    A Saudi Prince Helped Save Trump From Bankruptcy Twice In A 4-Year Period

    In 1991, Donald J. Trump was a mid-tier real estate developer with $900 million in debt, a collapsing casino business, and a name perhaps best known for a headline-dominating split with his wife Ivana. With his empire at risk of falling apart, Trump was searching for cash everywhere; his father even illegally bought $3.35 million worth of casino chips and never gambled them, to help Trump make a massive bond payment a year earlier.


    A helpful burst of cash from a Saudi prince eased some tension with his creditors. Alwaleed bin Talal bought Trump’s yacht for somewhere between $18 million and $20 million (reports vary). It wasn’t a great bit of business for Trump—he had bought it from the Sultan of Brunei three years earlier for a reported $29 million.


    In 1995, Trump was still in deep trouble—and Alwaleed swooped in again. The prince, who calls himself the “Warren Buffett of Saudi Arabia,” took over Trump’s 51% stake in his beloved New York Plaza hotel. As a result, Trump’s creditors forgave $125 million of his debt.

    https://mavenroundtable.io/theintell...E6eqlu2FTHx1A/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
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    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.
    There you go again. Loose cannon. If the whole world would take action against them together it would be great to break their sorry asses...but even if we did all we possibly could they would just buy from the ruskies sell to China and others etc and laugh at us. Think about it before you fly off on a tangent.
    The whole world didn't come together against Germany and yet we still managed to not sell them arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.
    There you go again. Loose cannon. If the whole world would take action against them together it would be great to break their sorry asses...but even if we did all we possibly could they would just buy from the ruskies sell to China and others etc and laugh at us. Think about it before you fly off on a tangent.

    Yup, right again

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    The Saudis are no friends of the Russians who are allies with Iran. And switching to another arms supplier would mean that their current planes, etc. would be totally unusable once parts ran out.

    But go ahead, just shrug your shoulders and say "Sure they're murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs but they're OUR murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    The Saudis are no friends of the Russians who are allies with Iran. And switching to another arms supplier would mean that their current planes, etc. would be totally unusable once parts ran out.

    But go ahead, just shrug your shoulders and say "Sure they're murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs but they're OUR murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs!"
    Yeah, the middle east seems to be a rough neighbourhood and the choices seem to be between bad, bad and worse. The Saudi's have never been much for human rights too, but I think carrying out such an operation in another country like Turkey crosses a line, not to mention that mess of a war they started and are prolonging in Yemen, the conflict with Quatar and lest we forget the kidnapping of the leader of Lebanon - all within the last year or so.

    The Saudi's have been causing a lot of unnecessary trouble lately and rather than stabilizing the region as in the past, they are now destabilizing it. They need to be reined in.

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    And some people think that Trump is the one to do that. Sure he will. As soon as Hell freezes over. He makes a lot of money off the Saudis. No way he's going to put his personal wealth in jeopardy.

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    Meanwhile, more "fine people" on the Trump side.

    ‘We will kill you’: Viral video appears to show Proud Boys founder calling for Trump supporters to commit violence

    McInnes is known as the co-founder of VICE Media, and now has a talk show on CRTV. He is also a Fox News guest.


    Here are a few excerpts:


    “Like Bill the Butcher and the Bowery Boys, we will assassinate you.”


    “If you’re wearing a MAGA hat and some guy with a slightly punk demeanor says, ‘Hey, are you … pro-Trump?’ choke him. Trust your instincts.”


    “Don’t listen to what he has to say, choke him.”


    “Can you call for violence generally? ‘Cause I am.”


    “Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people.”


    “Trump supporters: Choke a motherfucker. Choke a *****. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe.” (Better clip of this statement here.)


    “Get a ******* gun.”


    “Get ready to blow someone’s ******* head off.”


    “Get in trouble. Get arrested. Get fired. They can’t kill us all.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/wil...mmit-violence/

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    So WTH are we going there? Why are we supplying them with Lavs, the previous government set this up, why did JT decide to keep supplying Saudi. Could it be the 3000 jobs??..no. He's all about human rights..lying boyscout

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    He absolutely, 100% should have cancelled it. And the Conservatives should have never helped set it up.

    However, our contribution to the Saudi military, as wrong as it is, pales almost into insignificance next to the American arms trade with them. And Trump has come right out and said that he won't cancel any part of an arms deal, regardless of what they do. The Saudis have bombed hospitals, civilians, school buses loaded with children. None of that matters because there's money to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    He absolutely, 100% should have cancelled it. And the Conservatives should have never helped set it up.

    However, our contribution to the Saudi military, as wrong as it is, pales almost into insignificance next to the American arms trade with them. And Trump has come right out and said that he won't cancel any part of an arms deal, regardless of what they do. The Saudis have bombed hospitals, civilians, school buses loaded with children. None of that matters because there's money to be made.
    America is a far bigger country than ours though, lets see if jT cancels it in 2019..I'm betting he doesn't..

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    And I see that you're no longer blocking me. Interesting.

    You oppose Trudeau because he doesn't cancel it but support Trump for the same reason. "America's a far bigger country". Does that mean that they get a pass on arms deals? Because their deals are so much more lucrative, they should continue to supply repressive regimes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    And I see that you're no longer blocking me. Interesting.

    You oppose Trudeau because he doesn't cancel it but support Trump for the same reason. "America's a far bigger country". Does that mean that they get a pass on arms deals? Because their deals are so much more lucrative, they should continue to supply repressive regimes?
    Oh you're blocked, now and then I see if you're making sense..it's funny you noticed so quickly, interesting..

    JT has talked his face off about Human rights in Saudi, Trump has not. JT has talked his face off about women's rights and the fact he's a feminist, Trump has not. So in my eyes, JT is a hypocritical twat.
    If Clinton/Bush/Obama didnt cancel the arms deal, why in heck do you think Trump will/would?
    I'm asking, seriously, why would he.Saudi has always done terrible , unspeakable things..this is not new for them. The 9/11 terrorists came from there, why didn't Bush, followed by Obama do anything

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    Seeing as you made a point of posting that you blocked me, yeah, I noticed.

    Good question. Of course, the Saudis have gotten much worse under Trump. The Americans could usually keep the Saudis restrained, at least outside their own borders. Now, he's encouraging them to attack civilians in Yemen and, with the killing in Turkey, go after people that oppose them internationally.

    But, as Trump says, “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump told a crowd at an Alabama rally on Aug. 21, 2015, “Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

    Not only is he supporting them as president, he's profiting from them personally.

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    Probably just a coincidence...

    Saudi Arabia transfers $100 million to U.S. amid crisis over Khashoggi

    https://outline.com/wXfyAr
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    Did they buy some more Trump condos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    […] JT is a hypocritical twat. […]
    "Well then, this would be [a coincidence], wouldn't it?" - Ernie Capadino

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Seeing as you made a point of posting that you blocked me, yeah, I noticed.

    Good question. Of course, the Saudis have gotten much worse under Trump. The Americans could usually keep the Saudis restrained, at least outside their own borders. Now, he's encouraging them to attack civilians in Yemen and, with the killing in Turkey, go after people that oppose them internationally.

    But, as Trump says, “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump told a crowd at an Alabama rally on Aug. 21, 2015, “Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

    Not only is he supporting them as president, he's profiting from them personally.
    Do you have a link, where Trump is encouraging them to attack civilians in Yemen? Tia..
    Yes he's profiting personally, I don't like that. You know what else I don't like, seeing as I'm drawing comparisons, how much JTs foundation has gone up, especially with foreign money..just saying

    I wish Canada didn't purchase Saudi oil, are you okay with that?
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    Nope. But the reason is that Alberta demanded that we get world price for oil instead of the made in Canada price that was in the NEP. So we really can't complain when someone gets refinery ready oil from somewhere else. If we did the upgrading here and used Energy East to ship it to the rest of the country, there would not have been as much opposition to the pipeline when it was intended as an export pipeline.

    Do you have a link for news on Trudeau's foundation? Not a blog. An actual news site?

    And as you're drawing comparisons, how about the Trump foundation? Shut down and under criminal investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Meanwhile, more "fine people" on the Trump side.

    ‘We will kill you’: Viral video appears to show Proud Boys founder calling for Trump supporters to commit violence

    McInnes is known as the co-founder of VICE Media, and now has a talk show on CRTV. He is also a Fox News guest.


    Here are a few excerpts:


    “Like Bill the Butcher and the Bowery Boys, we will assassinate you.”


    “If you’re wearing a MAGA hat and some guy with a slightly punk demeanor says, ‘Hey, are you … pro-Trump?’ choke him. Trust your instincts.”


    “Don’t listen to what he has to say, choke him.”


    “Can you call for violence generally? ‘Cause I am.”


    “Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people.”


    “Trump supporters: Choke a motherfucker. Choke a *****. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe.” (Better clip of this statement here.)


    “Get a ******* gun.”


    “Get ready to blow someone’s ******* head off.”


    “Get in trouble. Get arrested. Get fired. They can’t kill us all.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/wil...mmit-violence/
    You left out this:


    “To be clear, McInnes appears to make some, but possibly not all, of the statements below. It is unclear, due to the video’s editing, if McInnes or someone else is making some of the statements. The video was posted to Twitter by Vic Berger, whose website says he is a video editor. (NCRM has reached out to Berger for clarification.)”


    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/wil...mmit-violence/

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    Hence the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Nope. But the reason is that Alberta demanded that we get world price for oil instead of the made in Canada price that was in the NEP. So we really can't complain when someone gets refinery ready oil from somewhere else. If we did the upgrading here and used Energy East to ship it to the rest of the country, there would not have been as much opposition to the pipeline when it was intended as an export pipeline.

    Do you have a link for news on Trudeau's foundation? Not a blog. An actual news site?

    And as you're drawing comparisons, how about the Trump foundation? Shut down and under criminal investigation.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle33014375/


    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/do...increased-10x/

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