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    The folks on the alt-right fringe label everything they don't like as "left".
    Fixed.

    I get the point being made, but I think we should make it clear that you are not quoting someone directly, but modifying. Going forward, we need to point out what was changed. Too many flame wars erupt when this fixing of words happens far from the original statement, and people are then wondering what is the real original quote
    Could we get the "strikeout" text modifier configured/added/enabled? It's how I generally denote what I've 'fixed'. As it is, you can always click the icon after the name in the quote to be taken to the original post.
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    It exists. Just type [strike] and the [/strike ]
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    Awesome. I tried it shortly after the upgrade/redo & it didn't, hadn't thought to try it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump at War with Canada


    Trump tweets no steel break for Canada without ‘new & fair’ NAFTA deal

    U.S. President appears to suggest that Canada could win exemptions to his planned sweeping tariffs on steel and aluminum

    President Donald Trump said the U.S. won’t lower tariffs on steel and aluminum from Mexico and Canada unless the two countries agree to a revamped NAFTA that’s fair to the U.S.
    “NAFTA, which is under renegotiation right now, has been a bad deal for U.S.A. Massive relocation of companies & jobs,” the president said in a tweet Monday. “Tariffs on Steel and Aluminum will only come off if new & fair NAFTA agreement is signed.”


    Canada must treat American farmers “much better,” and Mexico must stop drugs from “pouring into the U.S.,” he added.

    It’s the latest sign that Trump’s plan to impose stiff tariffs on steel and aluminum is overshadowing talks to overhaul the North American Free Trade Agreement. The president’s intervention may complicate a process that had already been yielding little progress on the most contentious issues. http://business.financialpost.com/ne...anada-to-nafta
    Interesting how he'll start a trade war with Canada but still hasn't followed through with the Russian sanctions...

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    ^ Sounds like a movie plot line straight out of Canadian Bacon.

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    Cohen's fabricated story begins to fall apart.

    Trump lawyer's $130,000 payment to adult film star was reportedly flagged as suspicious and sent to Treasury Department



    • Trump's lawyer's payment to former adult film star Stormy Daniels was reportedly flagged as suspicious and sent to the Treasury Department.
    • Cohen complained that the money he sent out of his own pocket had not been reimbursed, the WSJ reports, citing sources.
    • Daniels reportedly received the payment as part of a nondisclosure agreement regarding an alleged affair with Trump.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/05/trump-lawyer-payment-to-porn-star-flagged-as-suspicious-wsj.html

    A $130,000 payment to a former adult-film star by President Donald Trump's lawyer was flagged as suspicious and reported to the Treasury Department, The Wall Street Journal reported Monday, citing a source familiar with the matter.

    Michael Cohen, Trump's longtime lawyer, sent the money through an account he created at First Republic Bank, the report says. Stephanie Clifford, known in her films as Stormy Daniels, received the money under the pseudonym Peggy Peterson, according to previous reports.

    The payment, which Cohen said he paid out of his own pocket, was given to Clifford as part of an agreement not to discuss an alleged affair with Trump in 2006.

    According to the Journal, people familiar with the matter in the report said that Cohen later complained to friends that he had not been reimbursed for the money he sent Clifford.

    The source also told the newspaper that Cohen had missed two deadlines to pay Clifford earlier in October 2016, weeks before the presidential election, because he could not get in touch with Trump as the campaign raged toward its end.

    The Journal, citing a source, said that the payment was received Oct. 27 at City National Bank in Los Angeles. The bank started an inquiry into the payment a year after the payment arrived.

    "As a matter of policy, we don't confirm or comment on inquiries from regulatory agencies or law enforcement, including subpoenas," City National told CNBC.

    The Republican National Committee, which Cohen joined last year as national deputy finance chairman, did not immediately respond to CNBC's request for comment. Cohen replied to the Journal's request for comment with an emailed statement saying, "Fake News."

    The White House and the Treasury Department didn't immediately respond to CNBC's requests for comment.
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    Leave it to Trump to stiff his own lawyer for paying off the porn star that Trump had an affair with.

    Cohen complained that the money he sent out of his own pocket had not been reimbursed

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Leave it to Trump to stiff his own lawyer for paying off the porn star that Trump had an affair with.

    Cohen complained that the money he sent out of his own pocket had not been reimbursed

    NOW that is a pun!
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    My original word choice would have come out ****

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    So, was it personal funds or was it Trump's money?

    New report suggests Trump personally coordinated $130,000 payment to adult film star

    “In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford,” Cohen said in the statement. “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly. The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”


    The Wall Street Journal story, however, presents a very different narrative.


    According to the Journal, Cohen missed two deadlines earlier in the month to pay Daniels because he needed to contact Trump and had openly complained to friends after Trump’s win that the president hadn’t reimbursed him for the $130,000, which was used as hush money in return for signing an agreement that barring Daniels from discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.

    Campaign finance experts were already suspicious of the payment when it was first reported in February.

    https://thinkprogress.org/new-report...-a55a0ef00233/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    So, was it personal funds or was it Trump's money?

    New report suggests Trump personally coordinated $130,000 payment to adult film star

    “In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford,” Cohen said in the statement. “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly. The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”


    The Wall Street Journal story, however, presents a very different narrative.


    According to the Journal, Cohen missed two deadlines earlier in the month to pay Daniels because he needed to contact Trump and had openly complained to friends after Trump’s win that the president hadn’t reimbursed him for the $130,000, which was used as hush money in return for signing an agreement that barring Daniels from discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.

    Campaign finance experts were already suspicious of the payment when it was first reported in February.

    https://thinkprogress.org/new-report...-a55a0ef00233/
    The way Mr. Cohen said it sounds so much nicer than "what happened is my client screwed me on this". This causes one to wonder, which of his friends or business associates hasn't Donald screwed? It might be a short list.

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    Who hasnt the donald screwed over:
    <end of list>

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    Reality to Donald Trump. Please respond. Reality calling Donald Trump.
    Trump said North Korea ‘called up a couple of days ago’ — turns out he was talking about South Korea’s President Moon

    “It was headed for disaster and now we’re talking,” Trump said during the dinner. “They, by the way, called up a couple of days ago; they said, ‘We would like to talk,’ And I said, ‘So would we, but you have to denuke.'”


    South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency claimed that Trump actually spoke with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, rather than Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/tru...resident-moon/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Who hasnt the donald screwed over:
    <end of list>
    Not his friend, billionaire Carl Icahn.

    Trump Pal Carl Icahn Unloaded Millions In Steel-Related Stock Days Before Tariff
    The billionaire sold before shares of crane manufacturer Manitowoc Co. plunged on Trump's tariff plan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/i...b089ec353b9dc1
    Billionaire Carl Icahn, President Donald Trump’s longtime friend and former special adviser, sold $31.3 million in shares of a steel-related company just before Trump announced tariffs on imported steel and aluminum.


    Icahn unloaded nearly 1 million shares in crane manufacturer Manitowoc Co. of Wisconsin from Feb. 12 to Feb. 23, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission first reported by the website Think Progress. Manitowoc relies on steel, and shares in the company fell after Trump announced on Thursday that he plans to impose a 25 percent tariff on steel. The Commerce Department’s report recommending the tariffs was made public Feb. 16.


    Icahn told CNBC Thursday that he hadn’t had “much interaction” with Trump in the “past four or five months,” and had no special knowledge of what Trump planned to do or when. But the CNBC question concerned his opinion about market effect, not whether he had any privileged information. Stock trades based on insider information not available to the public are illegal.


    Icahn’s selloff represented about one-third of his stake in the company, according to CNBC. Last month’s selloff was his first trading in the company’s shares since January 2015, The Washington Post reported.


    Icahn’s stocks sold for between $32 and $34 a share. The shares were worth $26.93 when the market closed Friday.


    Icahn quit his informal White House role as adviser on regulatory reform in August, shortly before The New Yorker reported he had been pushing to overturn an environmental regulation promoting biofuels and renewable energy that was costing him millions through his stake in oil refiner CVR.
    Billionaire Carl Icahn Resigned As Trump Adviser Ahead Of Critical Story
    The New Yorker probes the investor's possible conflict of interest involving an ethanol regulation. 08/20/2017
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/c...b0a2608a6cd1aa
    Billionaire investor Carl Icahn, who resigned as President Donald Trump’s special adviser on regulations on Friday, did so just hours before The New Yorker magazine published a critical article that detailed his potential conflict of interest and questioned whether he had acted illegally.

    Icahn, an early endorser of Trump’s presidential bid and longtime acquaintance, said in a letter he was resigning from the adviser’s post because he “did not want partisan bickering” to distract from the president’s agenda. He also denied any conflict of interest, stating that he “never had access to nonpublic information or profited from my position.”


    The New Yorker, however, reported on Friday that Icahn had been pushing to overturn an environmental regulation the investor considered onerous and one that had been costing him hundreds of millions of dollars a year.


    Under the rule in question, passed by Congress during President George W. Bush’s administration in order to promote biofuels and renewable energy, oil refineries are required to blend ethanol into their products, or, alternatively, to purchase credits known as Renewable Identification Numbers. Icahn in 2012 bought a controlling stake in one such refinery, Texas-based CVR Energy, whose business had depended on buying so-called RINs. Their cost had fluctuated so much by 2016, however, that it had seriously depressed the company’s stock price.


    Several weeks after Trump’s victory last November, Icahn was named as an adviser to the president and CVR’s stock doubled on the expectation that the regulation would be repealed, according to The New Yorker.


    In February, news leaked that Bob Dinneen, who runs the Renewable Fuels Association, a leading ethanol trade group, had struck a deal with Icahn to change the ethanol blending requirement. The development surprised observers and industry experts because the association had long opposed such a change, the magazine said.
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    in due time, en temps voulu

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    North Korea willing to halt missile and nuclear tests and hold discussions with USA and South Korea:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-k...s-halt-n853941


    if North Korea denuclearizes, Trump deserves all the credit.

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    All?

    Sanctions take a long time to take effect and not just from the United States.

    Please read the world wide sanctions.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sancti...st_North_Korea






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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    North Korea willing to halt missile and nuclear tests and hold discussions with USA and South Korea:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-k...s-halt-n853941


    if North Korea denuclearizes, Trump deserves all the credit.
    But they won’t.

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    ^ No glory for the orange one, then. Awwww.
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    Kellyanne Conway Violated Hatch Act, Office of Special Counsel Finds
    http://ktla.com/2018/03/06/kellyanne...counsel-finds/
    The US Office of Special Counsel announced Tuesday that White House aide Kellyanne Conway violated the Hatch Act on two occasions by “advocating for and against candidates” in last year’s Alabama Senate special election.
    In a new report, the OSC special counsel, Henry Kerner, pointed to Conway’s TV interviews conducted in her “official capacity” in November and December of last year. The agency said Conway “impermissibly mixed official government business with political views about candidates in the Alabama special election.”


    One of the two interviews was on CNN’s “New Day,” and the second was on Fox News’ “Fox & Friends.”


    In a letter to President Donald Trump, Kerner said he is referring her violations for the President’s “consideration of appropriate disciplinary action.”


    The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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    Trump's golf course orders presidential seal tee markers. Is that legal?
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...gal/397906002/
    LOUISVILLE — A Donald Trump golf course reportedly ordered replicas of the presidential seal from a Louisville-area company to be used as tee markers, which could be against federal law unless the president ordered them.

    Eagle Sign & Design, located in New Albany, Ind., posted a picture on Facebook — and then removed it — of the mock design for the tee markers at the "Trump International Golf Course," according to its caption. It was first reported by ProPublica and WYNC-TV.


    Joseph Bates, the owner of Eagle Sign & Design, told Courier Journal he would not name his client but confirmed the tee markers were for a Trump International golf course. "Apparently when you do something that is related to Trump it means you'll get a lot of questions," Bates said. "We just did what our customer wanted." Bates said he does not think it is illegal.


    There are four Trump International golf courses, in Scotland, Ireland, Dubai and West Palm Beach, Fla. Bates did not specify which one the tee markers were for.


    ProPublica reported that the company received an order for 12-inch round replicas of the presidential seal that would be placed next to the tee boxes to show golfers where to tee off.
    The sign and metalworking company, formerly located in Louisville, has made products for Trump golf courses before, according to a company employee.


    Federal law spells out that manufacturing or using the presidential seal for commercial use — unless authorized under regulations ordered by the president and published in the Federal Register — can be punishable with up to six months in prison, a fine or both.


    The “law is an expression of the idea that the government and government authority should not be used for private purpose,” Kathleen Clark, a law professor at Washington University, told ProPublica. “It would be a misuse of government authority.”


    According to the U.S. Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 33, Section 713:

    "Whoever, except as authorized under regulations promulgated by the President and published in the Federal Register, knowingly manufactures, reproduces, sells, or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both."
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    Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!
    Stormy Daniels is suing Donald Trump over invalid ‘hush money’ agreement

    Yesterday it was reported that Cohen fumed about not being reimbursed for the hush money.


    Daniels lawsuit asks a Los Angeles County Superior Court to rule the hush agreements “were never formed, and therefore do not exist, because, among other things, Mr. Trump never signed the agreements.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/sto...ney-agreement/

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    ^ amazing that Trump can't do anything right. Can't be bothered (read lazy) to sign a contract.

    Melania must be soooo happy with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    North Korea willing to halt missile and nuclear tests and hold discussions with USA and South Korea:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-k...s-halt-n853941


    if North Korea denuclearizes, Trump deserves all the credit.
    But they won’t.

    One more thought. As Trump grinds through staff there’s a big risk that his fans will give him “all” the credit for anything good that happens to happen. That’s not good in a democracy.

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    I don't know how Mr. Oilers thinks Trump can get North Korea to denuclearize when he doesn't even know if he's talking to the north or south.

    Maybe he'll accidentally take credit for the fact that South Korea doesn't have nukes since he can't tell them apart.

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    Trump's former attorney says if Trump didn't sign, there's no contract.


    Trump adviser stuns Fox & Friends: Stormy Daniels’ hush agreement is ‘not valid’ if Donald didn’t sign


    The hosts of Fox & Friends on Wednesday gave former Trump attorney Goldberg a chance to shoot down the lawsuit, but he surprised them with an answer that was ominous for the president.


    “It’s true,” Goldberg said. “An agreement, you need the signature of both parties. And if there’s no signature by him, it’s not valid.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/tru...ld-didnt-sign/

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    Does she have to give the money back? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Trump's former attorney says if Trump didn't sign, there's no contract.


    Trump adviser stuns Fox & Friends: Stormy Daniels’ hush agreement is ‘not valid’ if Donald didn’t sign


    The hosts of Fox & Friends on Wednesday gave former Trump attorney Goldberg a chance to shoot down the lawsuit, but he surprised them with an answer that was ominous for the president.


    “It’s true,” Goldberg said. “An agreement, you need the signature of both parties. And if there’s no signature by him, it’s not valid.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/tru...ld-didnt-sign/
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    She's making more money now that she doesn't need the $130,000. And isn't making money regardless of the ethical implications Trump's whole philosophy?

    Porn star’s lawyer says she had sexual relationship with Trump

    “It’s our position that the entire agreement is null and void because he did not sign it,” the lawyer told the “Today” show.


    He said Daniels would return the $130,000 if need be.


    “I think she may have to and she’s prepared to do that,” Avenatti said.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/por...ionship-trump/

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    It's because New York didn't vote for him and he wants to punish them.

    Transportation Secretary Admits Trump Personally Intervened To Kill A Crucial Tunnel


    "Dubbed the Gateway Project, it’s a $30 billion effort to construct a new tunnel into New York’s Penn Station to replace the dilapidated tubes that are continuing to fall into disrepair. It’d help ease congestion, and alleviate some of the wear and tear on frequently-used, aging transit infrastructure. Lawmakers wanted to include nearly $1 billion in a spending bill for the project, after the Obama administration agreed to pick up half the costs, but the Trump administration has tried to stop the deal.


    Why is anyone’s guess. The Washington Post reported last weekend that Trump “personally appealed” to Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan to ensure no federal money is doled out for the project. On Tuesday, U.S. Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao confirmed that indeed happened."



    https://jalopnik.com/transportation-...erv-1823577147

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    She's making more money now that she doesn't need the $130,000. And isn't making money regardless of the ethical implications Trump's whole philosophy?

    Porn star’s lawyer says she had sexual relationship with Trump

    “It’s our position that the entire agreement is null and void because he did not sign it,” the lawyer told the “Today” show.


    He said Daniels would return the $130,000 if need be.


    “I think she may have to and she’s prepared to do that,” Avenatti said.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/por...ionship-trump/
    I guess if you do the math, $130,000 is about $54,000 per inch...
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    Not based on the size of his hands...

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    Only truthful statement Trump has made in 20 years...


    "Vagina is expensive" Donald Trump
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    Really interesting LEGAL ANALYSIS of the Trump/Stormy Daniels non-disclosure agreement. There are a couple of photos in there which obviously didn't copy over, but you can read the whole thing on @SethAbramson's timeline:

    (THREAD) I'm hearing some strange legal analyses of the Daniels-Trump lawsuit. I think it's important we understand the ways in which Trump's "Hush Agreement" with Daniels was nonstandard—and why these deviations from common practice could harm Trump. Hope you'll read and share.1/ First, let's get something out of the way: if you're going to contest an NDA in court, you should be filing with the court under seal so the NDA isn't breached unless/until the plaintiff—the person subject to the NDA—prevails in court. So that's a problem for Daniels/Avenatti.

    2/ With that in mind, no, Daniels' lawyer—Avenatti—shouldn't be going on The Today Show confirming that Daniels and Trump had a sexual relationship. He seems to be doing it strategically, because in certain respects it makes it easier for Daniels to fully breach the NDA later on.

    3/ And let's be clear: Daniels plans to breach the NDA. If she does, and if Trump/Cohen are stupid enough to sue her, (a) it'll open up Trump/Cohen to new public disclosures and liabilities and (b) they may or may not be able to recoup more money than Daniels makes for breaching.

    4/ My point is this: the purpose of the lawsuit is clearly to breach the NDA publicly, making a counter-suit without purpose and giving potential publishers—or others who would pay Daniels for her story—a taste of what they can expect. In that sense it's mainly a publicity stunt.

    5/ Daniels and her attorney are also banking on (a) her earning far *more* for telling her story than she'd face in compensatory and punitive damages from a jury, and (b) Trump and Cohen not wanting to sue her for damages because the discovery process could further endanger them.

    6/ So the Daniels-Trump lawsuit is one Daniels can file with (likely) few consequences, as the man she's suing has little interest in litigation of the issue, and even if she loses there's a chance—unless the judge prohibits her from *any* profit for her story—she'll make money.

    7/ Even if a judge confirms the NDA—prohibiting her from telling her story—she could still breach the NDA and thus dare Trump and Cohen to sue her. And if they did, and they won before a jury, and she lost any profit from her breach, she'd still earn non-breach-connected profits.

    8/ Again, Trump wouldn't sue for breach—as he'd have to testify, which he won't let happen. (He'd try to settle, likely unsuccessfully, as Daniels would know he was afraid of court.) But let's say he sues and wins, she'll still earn more going forward because of name recognition.

    9/ With that preamble out of the way, the question becomes, does Daniels have a case to have a judge declare her NDA null and void—clearing her to tell her story for cash without any fear of a lawsuit from Cohen or Trump? Legal analysts are saying absolutely not. I'm not so sure.

    10/ On CNN, Paul Callan and Jeffery Toobin said Daniels has no chance because a) Trump wasn't required to sign the NDA—which is Daniels' argument for it being null and void (i.e., his refusal to sign it), and b) it's common for third parties to sign contracts on another's behalf.

    11/ Callan and Toobin are right—but also missing the point. Trump's refusal to be in any way associated with this contract—and Cohen's refusal to sign the contract as himself, rather than a shell corporation—have created infirmities in the contract language Daniels could exploit.

    12/ I'll analyze those infirmities here—while noting that, even if a judge finds the contract was no contract at all, Cohen sending Daniels $130,000 and Daniels accepting that money could well turn what otherwise would have been a legally infirm contract into something binding.

    13/ That said, if a contract is meaningless or nonsensical on its face, there's a chance that—perhaps even for public policy reasons—a judge will void it and deem certain actions by the parties simple error, some sort of "part performance" on the contract, or an ill-advised gift.

    14/ Understand that contracts are valid only when there is a "meeting of the minds"—two or more discrete parties who agree to be bound in some way and to receive consideration (value) in return. There's a problem if we don't know who the parties are and who's bound and who isn't.

    15/ While it's almost certain that Cohen told Trump about this "Hush Agreement"—as if he didn't, he's going to be disbarred in New York for violating the Rules of Professional Conduct, so such a finding would be a Pyrrhic victory for Cohen—there's certainly a *chance* he did not.

    16/ We must admit that there's a chance Trump was unaware of the contract due to how Cohen wrote it—i.e., to obscure, in every sense possible, whether Trump knew it existed. And it's not just that Trump didn't sign the document, either. There are many other related oddities here.

    17/ First things first: Cohen, to obscure—or perhaps to hedge his bets about—whether he'd decide to (or had) told Trump about the "Hush Agreement," writes that the parties bound are Daniels on the one hand and, on the other, his shell corporation "and/or" Donald Trump. "And/or"?

    18/ The problem with an "and/or" for one of the parties to a contract is obvious: which is it? That "or" means that Cohen might be bound, or not. Trump might be bound, or not. (And remember, Cohen wrote the contract, so its content constitutes formal representations on his part.)

    19/ So did Daniels contract with Trump? Maybe not, per the contract. Did she contract with "EC, LLC," Cohen's shell corp? Maybe not. Should a court encourage parties to so word their contracts that there's no clarity whatsoever—indeed no force of law—as to who the contract binds?

    20/ Take a look at paragraph 1.1 ("Parties") in the "Confidential Settlement Agreement" (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/TODAY/z_...0Complaint.pdf …) and tell me, if you're Trump's attorney, don't you claim that "and/or" means you're *not* bound? And if you're Cohen's attorney, wouldn't you make that same argument?

    21/ The counter-argument is that the contract had three signature lines—Daniels, "EC, LLC," and Trump—and by "EC, LLC" signing but not Trump, it means that the "and/or" in paragraph 1.1 is automatically nullified, such that the contract is formally between "EC, LLC" and Daniels.

    22/ The alternative explanation is the one Avenatti takes: the "and/or" can't be nullified, and that it requires all three parties sign the contract for it to be valid. But let's say he's wrong: let's say for a moment that this is a valid contract between "EC, LLC" and Daniels.

    23/ Does "EC, LLC" have the legal authority to make representations on Trump's behalf within the body of the contract? Does "EC, LLC" have authority to legally bind Donald Trump in any fashion within the contract's four corners? Is "EC, LLC" a valid "third party" in this sense?

    24/ Had Cohen signed this as Trump's lawyer, different story. But he didn't—he created a corporation, then wrote a contract that makes representations on Trump's behalf and seeks to bind him legally though he's (arguably) not a party to the contract and his tie to EC LLC is zero.

    25/ What happens if Daniels signs the contract reasonably believing Trump is a party, and/or reasonably believing EC LLC has legal authority to make representations for Trump and bind Trump legally, when it fact it has no such authority, it's just Cohen trying to "protect" Trump?

    26/ So—keeping in mind Cohen's defense to this suit for declaratory judgment will be that Trump wasn't a party to the contract (paragraph 1.1 notwithstanding)—how in the world will he explain 2.2(b) "[Trump] claims that he has been damaged..." How can "EC, LLC" make such a claim?

    27/ The answer is that *Trump* could, were he a named party to the contract, make that claim; *Cohen*, as Trump's attorney and agent, could, were he in his own person a party to the contract, make that claim; but what *possible* authority does "EC, LLC" have to make such a claim?

    28/ So what happens if Daniels says yes, I took the money, I have "unclean hands"—a legal doctrine that prohibits challenging a contract you pretended was valid so you could benefit from it—but (but!) the *reason* I took that money is I *believed Trump was bound by the contract*?

    29/ In this view, the question becomes, did Cohen outsmart himself? By ensuring Trump *wasn't* a party to the contract and hiding his own identity (as EC LLC) did he falsely represent that EC LLC had the legal authority to make representations for Trump or bind him to a contract?

    30/ One thing the court may look at is the signature page—not only did Cohen try to give a slightly different signature the two times he signed, but more importantly he signs *only* as "EC, LLC" and "Attorney for Essential Consultants, LLC." He claims no right to speak for Trump.

    31/ So let's be clear: *no one signed this contract who asserted any right to speak for Trump*. Yet the contract makes countless—completely inoperative—legal representations *on Trump's behalf* and claims (entirely fictitiously) to *bind Trump* in numerous regards. Let's see how.

    32/ Daniels was induced to sign the contract by Cohen's false representation in paragraph 2.3, in which he asserts legal authority to say Trump will "release any claims against [Daniels]" if Daniels agrees to do certain things. But in fact Trump was *not* so releasing any claims.

    33/ It'll be *easy* for Daniels to say to a judge, "Your Honor, I took the money in good faith—I thought Mr. Trump was releasing all claims against me. It turns out Mr. Cohen was colluding with my prior lawyer. My *current* lawyer tells me Mr. Trump hasn't released *any* claims."

    34/ In that view, Daniels simply needs to return the money and say, "I didn't get anything for this money—I got false representations that I had 'repose' from a lawsuit from Mr. Trump." And in that view, Trump staying away from the contract would be the thing that kills the NDA.

    35/ But wait! Cohen's an even worse lawyer than I've let on so far. Because in fact, *in a contract he wrote and whose representations are his*, he represents to Daniels that Donald Trump *is*, in fact, a necessary signatory to the agreement (as he *is*, in fact, a party to it):

    36/ So, as "EC LLC," with *no authority* to make representations for Trump or legally bind him whatsoever, Cohen represented that he *did* have such authority to represent and bind *and* claimed repeatedly that Trump had "entered" into an agreement which—actually—he never signed.

    37/ Any reasonable person would—on the receiving end of such misrepresentations—believe that in signing such a contract they were getting something of value *besides* money: the right of repose from lawsuits by one of the richest men in America. Daniels was getting no such thing.

    38/ And lest you wonder whether Cohen's gross misrepresentations of legal authority were "material" misrepresentations that could void the contract in which they appear, never fear! Michael Cohen himself made that fact *explicit* in paragraph 2.6 of the Agreement with Daniels.

    39/ So Callan and Toobin should look again at the contract. And so should Trump and Cohen—as they really *can't* file a counter-suit. The timing of the contract confirms it was an illegal campaign contribution by Cohen—who used his own money—to Trump, which Trump never reported.

    40/ Why does all this matter? Because the world isn't yet insane: a presidential candidate illegally paying off a porn star over an adulterous affair days before a close election—then lying to cover it up—is a national scandal. If you doubt it, imagine it happening to Obama. /end

    PS/ Of course, I didn't even touch, here, all the *other* issues that we could discuss with respect to this ridiculous agreement, such as the (reasonable) allegation that Cohen may have violated it already (by acknowledging the affair publicly) and in so doing it invalidated it.

    PS2/ (To be very clear, it's not that a contract suddenly doesn't exist in the eyes of the court system if it's breached, so much as that one party breaching it, as Cohen may have, makes it impossible for them to expect redress if and when the other party *also* breaches it.)

    PS3/ I also haven't discussed how this episode *proves* that the Kremlin *would* be able (i.e., may presently be able) to successfully blackmail Trump over his past sexual exploits.

    Nor have I laid out in full all the campaign finance laws Cohen and Trump may have broken here.

    PS4/ An intriguing argument I'd have to think a bit more about is the claim that this contract is *per se invalid* as a matter of public policy, on the grounds that it was part of a conspiracy to cover up a criminal act (violation of federal election laws).

    That may well be so.

    PS5/ One thing that's clear is that, whatever questionable motives her and her attorney may have here, Daniels has many more legal arguments to beat Trump senseless over this agreement (and thus, this affair) than pundits are now implying.

    And Trump can't *really* fight back.

    NOTE/ Some contract lawyers in the weeds on this point out Daniels may have received the money at a time she still reasonably believed Trump *would* sign the agreement, and her attorney should've put Cohen's money in escrow until then—an error that may not be imputed to Daniels.

    NOTE2/ A point someone made to me by DM: can EC LLC collect $1 million in liquidated damages per breach when there's no indication EC LLC is harmed by breach (i.e., there's no reasonable relationship to actual damages)? Breach harms Trump—not a party to the contract—*not* EC LLC.

    NOTE3/ Trump sent Sanders out today to say words whose meaning she clearly didn't understand—"This case had already been won in arbitration." No—Cohen won a temporary gag order without Daniels/her lawyer present in a case Trump wasn't part of. Or did he just concede he's a party?
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    Here’s something in perfect alignment with the Trump misc. thread.

    Note the comments in the article about conservatives compared to Trump.



    Donald Trump Movement Is Based on Psychology, Not Ideology | National Review

    “Still, many of Trump’s biggest fans stick by him, mirroring Trump’s mode of thinking and discovering ever more extravagant ways to explain or rationalize the president’s behavior. (Krein’s abandonment of Trump was an exception to the rule.) When Trump attacked Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Jerry Falwell Jr. of Liberty University tweeted his support, floating the idea that Sessions was an anti-Trump deep cover operative who endorsed Trump to undermine his presidency from within.

    It seems Trumpism is infectious. If this infection becomes a pandemic — a cult of personality — one could fairly call Trumpism a movement. But psychology would still be the best way to understand it. ...”


    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...-not-ideology/

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    The primary motivation is fear. Fear of change. Fear of "the other". Fear of loss of power. Fear of trans people wanting to go to the bathroom. Keep conservatives afraid and you're well ahead of the game.

    At Yale, we conducted an experiment to turn conservatives into liberals. The results say a lot about our political divisions.

    Conservatives, it turns out, react more strongly to physical threat than liberals do. In fact, their greater concern with physical safety seems to be determined early in life: In one University of California study, the more fear a 4-year-old showed in a laboratory situation, the more conservative his or her political attitudes were found to be 20 years later. Brain imaging studies have even shown that the fear center of the brain, the amygdala, is actually larger in conservatives than in liberals. And many other laboratory studies have found that when adult liberals experienced physical threat, their political and social attitudes became more conservative (temporarily, of course). But no one had ever turned conservatives into liberals.


    Until we did.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3f38a86eb95f

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Not based on the size of his hands...
    Well we now know that Trump uses various aliases. In the past he used Barron Miller, John Miller and now David Dennison.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_pseudonyms

    So Trump did not collude with the Russians. It was David Dennison all along...


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    Good people on both sides.

    ‘We’re going to burn down your store!’: Trump supporters caught on camera threatening California book shop

    The video begins with a woman Trump supporter asking a store staff member if she really thinks “I’m racist because I support our president?”


    “Yes, basically, yes,” the staff member replies.


    A male Trump supporter, wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat, called the staffer “commie scum” and told her that “we’re going to burn down your bookstore.”


    The staffer informed them that she had video of them threatening to burn down the store and told them to “please leave” the premises.


    “This is America, f*ck you!” the man shouted at her.


    Later in the video, the man can be seen telling people outside the store that “Trump is going to get rid of all you pieces of sh*t.”


    He also called the woman who worked at the book store an “anti-white racist piece of sh*t” and said that the only people who shopped at the store were “Antifa pieces of sh*t.”



    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/goi...nia-book-shop/



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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Here’s something in perfect alignment with the Trump misc. thread.

    Note the comments in the article about conservatives compared to Trump.



    Donald Trump Movement Is Based on Psychology, Not Ideology | National Review

    “Still, many of Trump’s biggest fans stick by him, mirroring Trump’s mode of thinking and discovering ever more extravagant ways to explain or rationalize the president’s behavior. (Krein’s abandonment of Trump was an exception to the rule.) When Trump attacked Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Jerry Falwell Jr. of Liberty University tweeted his support, floating the idea that Sessions was an anti-Trump deep cover operative who endorsed Trump to undermine his presidency from within.

    It seems Trumpism is infectious. If this infection becomes a pandemic — a cult of personality — one could fairly call Trumpism a movement. But psychology would still be the best way to understand it. ...”


    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...-not-ideology/
    I think that is a HUGE plus. Psychology can both identify and solve problems much better than sociological or ideological approaches.

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    Tell me again how big a scandal Uranium One is....

    Here’s Why Republicans Stopped Talking About a Uranium One “Whistleblower”
    The guy they hoped would implicate Hillary Clinton doesn’t appear too reliable.


    For months Republicans have said the informant, a former lobbyist named William D. Campbell, had explosive information regarding the sale of Uranium One, a Canadian firm that owned mines in the United States, to Rosatom, a Russian-state owned company. They claimed that Campbell could shed light on how Russians exerted influence over then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—allegedly steering money to her family foundation—in order to win approval of the sale. Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and several House Republicans cited Campbell’s claims to urge the appointment of a new special counsel to investigate the Uranium One sale. But lately, Republicans have largely stopped talking about Campbell. His recent congressional interview may help explain why.


    During the meeting, Campbell admitted that he lacked knowledge of the interagency review process through which the sale was approved. Campbell said he “looked on Google to see” how the process worked, according to Democrats, who also note that he “identified no evidence that Secretary Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, or anyone from the Obama Administration took any actions as a result of” Russian influence.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...whistleblower/

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    Donald Trump may have convinced North Korea to denuclearize.

    This is huge if it happens, no matter how you slice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Donald Trump may have convinced North Korea to denuclearize.

    This is huge if it happens, no matter how you slice it.
    don’t bet your pension that this will be any more successful than chamberlain’s visit to germany but i will be very happy if you turn out to be right on this one ten years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Donald Trump may have convinced North Korea to denuclearize.

    This is huge if it happens, no matter how you slice it.
    don’t bet your pension that this will be any more successful than chamberlain’s visit to germany but i will be very happy if you turn out to be right on this one ten years from now.

    Chronology of U.S.-North Korean Nuclear and Missile Diplomacy | Arms Control Association
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Donald Trump may have convinced North Korea to denuclearize.

    This is huge if it happens, no matter how you slice it.
    don’t bet your pension that this will be any more successful than chamberlain’s visit to germany but i will be very happy if you turn out to be right on this one ten years from now.
    When I heard about this, I thought, great!, some positive movement. The sanctions are working. Then I thought about the Chamberlain parallel. All North Korea has to do is to praise Trump and he will roll over and want his belly (or whatever) rubbed and sign anything, just like the steel and aluminum tariffs.

    North Korea will never denuclearize. It is their only Trump card...
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    Pro-Trump pastor: Stormy Daniels allegations 'totally irrelevant' to evangelical support for Trump
    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/37...to-evangelical

    A member of President Trump’s evangelical advisory board defended Trump over the controversy surrounding his alleged relationship with adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, saying the allegations were “totally irrelevant” to evangelicals who support Trump.

    “Evangelicals know they’re not compromising their beliefs in order to support this great president,” Pastor Robert Jeffress said on Fox News Thursday. “And let’s be clear, evangelicals still believe in the commandment ‘thou shalt not have sex with a porn star.’”


    “However, whether this president violated that commandment or not is totally irrelevant to our support of him,” he continued.


    Jeffress said evangelicals knew they “weren’t voting for an altar boy” when they voted for Trump and maintained they supported Trump for his “policies and strong leadership.”


    The pastor, who oversees the First Baptist Church in Dallas, said evangelicals understand “the concept of sin and forgiveness.”


    “We are all sinners, we all need forgiveness, [and] that forgiveness is available through Christ for anyone who asks,” he said. “And whether the president needs that forgiveness for this particular allegation, whether he’s asked for it, is between him, his family and his god.”
    Problem with Trump, he is not asking for forgiveness. He is attacking his accusers and is unrepentant.

    True Christians saw through Trump from day one and never voted for him. Trump supporting evangelicals are akin to other religious extremists who create their own morals and reality. They are not following the bible.
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    HEADLINE: Trump was trying to have a foursome with Stormy and Jessica Drake

    Mystery woman Angel Ryan outed as Trump’s porn star accuser, Jessica Drake

    ANGEL Ryan, a woman named by Stormy Daniels as knowing of her alleged affair with Donald Trump, has been revealed to be the porn star who accused him of sexual harassment at the election.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-a...83a581460ff7f1

    PORN star Jessica Drake accused US President Donald Trump of sexual harassment a month before the 2016 US election.


    CNN reports that less than a week later a mystery woman named “Angel Ryan” was listed in a secret settlement brokered by Mr Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen with adult film star Stormy Daniels.


    It appears the pair were unrelated but CNN says it has confirmed that Angel Ryan is in fact Jessica Drake.
    Michael Cohen paid adult film star Ms Daniels $US130,000 to keep quiet about an alleged affair with Mr Trump.


    Ms Daniels alleges that she and Mr Trump first met during a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe in 2006.


    Ms Drake alleged she also met Mr Trump at the Lake Tahoe event, where he invited her to his hotel room.

    She went with two other women because she said she didn’t feel comfortable going alone.


    “He grabbed each of us tightly, in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission,” Drake said during a press conference in Manhattan on October 22, 2016.


    She says he offered to pay her for sex. Mr Trump has denied the allegations.


    Trump previously denied any involvement or even knowing or wanting to know Jessica Drake yet she is named in the Stormy settlement. Funny, it must have been some guy named David Dennison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Donald Trump may have convinced North Korea to denuclearize.

    This is huge if it happens, no matter how you slice it.
    don’t bet your pension that this will be any more successful than chamberlain’s visit to germany but i will be very happy if you turn out to be right on this one ten years from now.

    Chronology of U.S.-North Korean Nuclear and Missile Diplomacy | Arms Control Association
    https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron
    however, despite all that has gone before, we all know that the donald knows how to negotiate and how to win.

    depending, of course, on which name he’s using and whether he even signs his deals after they’re struck, never mind actually adhere to them. which perhaps gives him something in common with north korea that will allow him to go there as an equal (not a compliment to either north korea or the donald).

    unless of course this all has litttle to do with north korea and everything to do with deflecting attention from stormy waters closer to home...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Donald Trump may have convinced North Korea to denuclearize.

    This is huge if it happens, no matter how you slice it.
    don’t bet your pension that this will be any more successful than chamberlain’s visit to germany but i will be very happy if you turn out to be right on this one ten years from now.
    When I heard about this, I thought, great!, some positive movement. The sanctions are working. Then I thought about the Chamberlain parallel. All North Korea has to do is to praise Trump and he will roll over and want his belly (or whatever) rubbed and sign anything, just like the steel and aluminum tariffs.

    North Korea will never denuclearize. It is their only Trump card...
    except, Chamberlin had no other people truly pressuring Hitler... allies per se...

    Jong-Un has China pressuring him. China does NOT want a US backed state on their borders, nor do they actually want to go to war with the US. Neither does Russia. Sabre rattling aside, the economic devastation + MAD = no one really wants to push "the button"...

    So, yes....flatter the Trump administration...and maybe something is done...but the geopolitical world is not the same as it was in the late 1930's.
    Tired of being taken advantage of .

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    I can see Kim making an offer to give up their nuclear program....as long as the US does the same. When Trump refuses, hopefully he's not so stupid as to agree but you never know with him, Kim can simply point at America and say that they're the ones being unreasonable. Same scenario if he offers to give up his nukes in exchange for the withdrawal of all foreign troop from the Korean peninsula.

    Kim is going to play Trump like a cheap violin. Lots of pomp and military parades and in the end, Trump will have nothing to show and North Korea has gotten the recognition from a sitting US president that they want and the legitimacy that comes with it.

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    Yup. Invite Trump to NK and throw Trump a YUGE parade and he will sign anything.
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    I'm sorry...I get the anti-Trump angst...but you forget that the US is not a dictatorship nor will it be...despite your continued efforts to paint Trump as someone who could.

    Read the constitution. See how the Judicial branch has kept many of Trump's rhetoric based EO's in check. Look at the Legislative branch...especially after the midterms. It won't allow the stupidity you both are suggesting.

    There is a HUGE political and military complex that is behind the President...regardless of who holds office. Even the ability to launch a nuclear strike takes a colossal effort within the Executive branch before it is even executed. The "football" is not opened until a large effort happens behind the scenes. The President is NOT the source of power, the huge bureaucracy...in consort with the Legislative and Executive branches, makes any swift change almost impossible.

    Trump won't "sign anything". As much as he may go rogue, the article to sign is very much a sideshow as the pre-signing negotiations done by a host of other people will determine what is actually going to receive an official seal of the US of A.

    Jong-un knows full well the US is NOT going to give up its arms...nor will he play that card. MAD is the key to the world surviving, and the US is not going to create a power vacuum for China or Russia to fill. Seriously. I get the pontification, but that is just ridiculous conjecture in an attempt to look like a scholar. It is a freaking non starter...because China, France, England, Russia, India, Pakistan and any other nuclear nation would have to follow suit. If anything, NK would regain its Chinese backing as it's nuclear deterrence from the USA - even if it actually gives up its nuclear programme.

    This isn't some EO. Stop treating it like one.

    Yes, they will play to his ego to get him to shut up. Don't think for one second that the US bureaucracy isn't doing the same thing. This isn't a stupid border wall.

    This is potentially Armageddon. Yes, you now have the world's attention, and yes they will maneuver as they need to in order to prevent self annihilation...including praising even if you don't think it is due...
    Tired of being taken advantage of .

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    Why are you explaining this to us?

    Maybe you should explain this to Trump himself. So far he has not learned this.
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    ...because this is here on C2E...and many are going off on BS conspiracy theories and conjecture while claiming to be experts in US politics...all while polluting the forum feed and activity stream with TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPITY TRUMP TRUMP SUCKS SUCKS SUCKY SUCK SUCK... and then juxtaposing Trump=Hitler and 2018 USA = 1933 Germany...


    that's why...this is far worse than any duplicate photo posting malarkey...


    Trump will be restrained. It will look like a dumpster fire...but he will be restrained... Unlike many of the screaming zealots...I have a bit more faith in the division of power put forth in the US constitution... which is why the saying "democracy is messy business and a bloodsport" rings true...
    Tired of being taken advantage of .

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    The idea that a US President might seize power and become a dictator against the established democratic defences is probably as crazy as the idea that a country would start a nuclear war against another nation with nuclear and chemical defences. In fact the latter seems closer than the former to comitting suicide. So I think NK could be left with its nuclear weapons and no attack would ever come because intelligent people run the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    ...because this is here on C2E...and many are going off on BS conspiracy theories and conjecture while claiming to be experts in US politics...all while polluting the forum feed and activity stream with TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPITY TRUMP TRUMP SUCKS SUCKS SUCKY SUCK SUCK... and then juxtaposing Trump=Hitler and 2018 USA = 1933 Germany...


    that's why...this is far worse than any duplicate photo posting malarkey...


    Trump will be restrained. It will look like a dumpster fire...but he will be restrained... Unlike many of the screaming zealots...I have a bit more faith in the division of power put forth in the US constitution... which is why the saying "democracy is messy business and a bloodsport" rings true...
    As you can see, Trump is going around the Senate and the House by taking executive privilege on questionable grounds. The steel and aluminum tariffs are a perfect example. Usually it is Congress that passes tariff legislation but Trump's team found an obscure 1962 law. "Trump is imposing the tariffs under a little-used national security provision of a 1962 law. That provision, known as “Section 232,” allows him to unilaterally impose trade remedies if the Commerce Department finds that imports “threaten to impair” U.S. national security."

    RichardS, please tell me where the basis that import “threaten to impair” U.S. national security?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    ...because this is here on C2E...and many are going off on BS conspiracy theories and conjecture while claiming to be experts in US politics...all while polluting the forum feed and activity stream with TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPITY TRUMP TRUMP SUCKS SUCKS SUCKY SUCK SUCK... and then juxtaposing Trump=Hitler and 2018 USA = 1933 Germany...


    that's why...this is far worse than any duplicate photo posting malarkey...


    Trump will be restrained. It will look like a dumpster fire...but he will be restrained... Unlike many of the screaming zealots...I have a bit more faith in the division of power put forth in the US constitution... which is why the saying "democracy is messy business and a bloodsport" rings true...
    And just WHAT exactly are you basing this on? When has the man EVER been restrained?

    Trump wants desperately to be known for achieving something, anything, that he can be proud of. The problem is that he's got the attention span of a goldfish and an ego the size of the moon. He's not going to do anything that involves him coming out looking like, in his words, "a loser". And Kim may have an ego to match but he's secure in his position of power. I sincerely hope that something good comes of this but I have zero faith that Trump is the one that can pull it off. He's devastated the senior ranks of the State Department and there's a sever lack of career diplomats and analysts that can advise him. Not that he'd listen anyway because the situation with North Korea can't be summarized onto one sheet of paper with bullet points and pictures.

    As far as the division of power, the Republicans in the House and the Senate would love for the Mueller investigation to go away because it's distracting Trump form what they want him to do for them. The only reason that they haven't yet is because the public outcry would spell the end of their political careers. There are some that are more interested in the country than the party but for the majority of Republicans in both houses, they really don't care what he's done, from paying off porn stars to colluding with Russia and lying about it to calling actual, dyed in the wool NAZIs "good people". They see him as a useful ***** that they can bend to their will with a little flattery. Much like Kim will.

    The man can't even accept photographic evidence that his inauguration crowd was smaller than Obama's and you think that he's going to be restrained?? The man even outed an Israeli security asset to the Russians while standing in the Oval Office. Who knows that he'll blab to the North Koreans in order to impress them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    ...because this is here on C2E...and many are going off on BS conspiracy theories and conjecture while claiming to be experts in US politics...all while polluting the forum feed and activity stream with TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPITY TRUMP TRUMP SUCKS SUCKS SUCKY SUCK SUCK... and then juxtaposing Trump=Hitler and 2018 USA = 1933 Germany...


    that's why...this is far worse than any duplicate photo posting malarkey...


    Trump will be restrained. It will look like a dumpster fire...but he will be restrained... Unlike many of the screaming zealots...I have a bit more faith in the division of power put forth in the US constitution... which is why the saying "democracy is messy business and a bloodsport" rings true...
    As you can see, Trump is going around the Senate and the House by taking executive privilege on questionable grounds. The steel and aluminum tariffs are a perfect example. Usually it is Congress that passes tariff legislation but Trump's team found an obscure 1962 law. "Trump is imposing the tariffs under a little-used national security provision of a 1962 law. That provision, known as “Section 232,” allows him to unilaterally impose trade remedies if the Commerce Department finds that imports “threaten to impair” U.S. national security."

    RichardS, please tell me where the basis that import “threaten to impair” U.S. national security?
    Especially since he said that he wouldn't impose the tariffs on Canada if we opened more of our dairy market to the Americans. Sorry, finding a market for your cheese is NOT a national security matter.

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    ... “The real reason for Trump’s steel tariffs? He’s preparing for war”

    Lawrence Solomon: The real reason for Trump’s steel tariffs? He’s preparing for war


    “...
    These explanations miss the mark. Though Trump doubtless sees taunting Canada on NAFTA and playing to his political base as furthering his agenda, these are but freebies, sideshows to the main event. Trump is acting sincerely, and legitimately, in the national security interests of the United States. Canada isn’t his target; China is.

    Trump is old enough to know that during the Korean War, president Harry Truman seized the U.S. steel industry to maintain production for America’s then-vulnerable wartime economy. During the Second World War, when the U.S. dominated the world’s steel production, rationing was nevertheless needed — the public was even exhorted to donate their automobile bumpers to the war effort as scrap steel.

    Today, the U.S. has not only lost much of its steel capacity, it’s at risk of losing the balance, making it dependent on a host of countries: Canada, its largest and most reliable foreign supplier, meets just five per cent of U.S. needs. According to the U.S. Commerce Department, the United States is now at risk of finding itself “in a position where it is unable to be certain it could meet demands for national defense and critical industries in a national emergency.” If dependent on a foreign country, the department warns, the U.S. would not have the legal authority to commandeer supplies as it could within the U.S.

    “Our steel industry is in bad shape,” Trump tweeted. “IF YOU DON’T HAVE STEEL, YOU DON’T HAVE A COUNTRY!”

    Those who believe war is for the history books, never to inconvenience us in our daily comforts, naturally view Trump as some kind of madman, senselessly ...”


    http://www.nationalpost.com/m/lawren...280/story.html


    Mnuchin Says U.S. Wants Tariff Exemptions Decided in Two Weeks - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-steel-tariffs



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    Doubt it. Did the US run out of steel during the Iraq or Afghanistan wars?
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    Why previous presidents have refused to meet directly with North Korea and why Trump is making a mistake.

    North Korea sets a dangerous trap for Trump. Disaster is far more likely than a Nobel.

    Most likely, however, is that the White House is about to walk right into a trap the North Koreans have been laying for American presidents since the 1990s. A one-on-one summit between a U.S. president and one of the world’s weirdest and most irresponsible leaders would be a huge reward for a regime that has long chided other rogues and dictators for their weakness in dealing with the United States. (When Moammar Gadhafi of Libya was torn to pieces by his own people after NATO weakened his army, Kim taunted the world by noting that Gadhafi should have kept his nuclear program.)


    Such a meeting would legitimize not only Kim’s regime, but his methods. No matter how the White House spins it, the North Koreans will claim a huge victory in getting Trump to bend to their will.


    This isn’t to say that direct meetings are not a good idea. Sanctions are biting deeply in North Korea, and China is clearly fed up with its bizarre ally. But a summit should be a reward for months, even years, of careful work and actual progress. Meetings at lower levels should progress to more senior principals, and then to the heads of state.


    Instead, we have yet another decision, much like the recent and incoherent announcement of tariffs, that looks like sheer impulse from a commander-in-chief who seems frustrated that his advisers keep telling him that nuclear diplomacy is more complicated than running a hotel or a golf course.

    Worse yet, the short fuse for a meeting in May — and why the hurry?— means that this will be a summit without an agenda and with no time to devise one, which always increases the chances of a diplomatic train wreck. There is no evidence that this move was given any kind of serious analysis by military or diplomatic advisers. The Pentagon seems to be in the dark, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson made clear just hours before the announcement that no such meeting was even on the horizon.

    http://https://www.usatoday.com/stor...umn/409792002/

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    Melania Knew - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/o...mp-stormy.html


    White Evangelical Women, Core Supporters of Trump, Begin Tiptoeing Away - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/u...men-trump.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    White Evangelical Women, Core Supporters of Trump, Begin Tiptoeing Away - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/u...men-trump.html
    These news outlets create the most misleading headlines. Both women in this article say that they want another Republican to challenge Trump, as he was clearly was not their first choice for president. But they voted for him because he was the candidate, and would vote for him again if it meant beating the Democrats.

    And then the article writer goes on to explain that they don't think any voter's opinion of Trump has changed for the worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    White Evangelical Women, Core Supporters of Trump, Begin Tiptoeing Away - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/u...men-trump.html
    These news outlets create the most misleading headlines. Both women in this article say that they want another Republican to challenge Trump, as he was clearly was not their first choice for president. But they voted for him because he was the candidate, and would vote for him again if it meant beating the Democrats.

    And then the article writer goes on to explain that they don't think any voter's opinion of Trump has changed for the worse.
    Supporting quotes please.

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    The first sentence in the article summarizes the whole thing:

    "Carol Rains, a white evangelical Christian, has no regrets over her vote for President Trump. She likes most of his policies and would still support him over any Democrat. But she is open to another Republican."

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    EPA science advisers haven't met in six months: report

    "He's running out the clock, because in the end of September, he gets another chunk of them off," the member told Scientific American. "The obvious interpretation is that he's making sure he doesn't use the SAB until he has appointed the overwhelming majority of the people on the SAB.
    "If there are reports or regulatory actions that are being scheduled or that are happening and they're not coming to the science advisory board, then something is most definitely lost, because the board provides very important input to the process and scientific rigor," Thorne told Scientific American.
    Pruitt has taken steps to reshape the agency’s advisory boards, blocking scientists who have received past EPA grants from sitting on the boards. The EPA said the move was to eliminate conflicts of interest, but critics have said it allows more industry advocates to work as EPA advisers.

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    And trump is more than willing to go along with it. If nothing else, he'd see a war as a distraction from the Mueller investigation.

    Here are 7 terrifying signs President Trump is driving the US into an all-out war

    The relative success of Iran since the U.S. invasion of Iraq alarms and unifies Saudi Arabia and Israel. The former is rich; the latter has the region’s most powerful military. Together they are seeking to bring the United States into conflict with their mutual enemy, Iran.


    “The IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] are superior in every way to Iran’s army but they cannot overthrow the Iranian regime,” Wilkerson said in an interview with AlterNet. “Only the Americans can do that. So they want to get the Americans involved.”


    Parsi agrees. The Israelis and the Saudis don’t want to start a war,” he said. “They want to spark something where the U.S. intervenes.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/7-t...riving-us-war/

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    Supporters say that Trump isn't racist. Then why does he attract so many racists?

    Trump-loving pastor resigns from school board after raging about racial mixing and ‘white genocide’

    In an interview published soon after the revelation of his posts, Celeste blasted schools that would cater to “the nonbelievers, the Jews and everyone else.”


    “Is there anything wrong with protecting the white race?” Celeste mused.


    Along with serving on the Western Maine school board, Celeste is also the “senior pastor” at ChristianPatriot.com. A perusal of his Facebook page reveals a number of posts made in admiration of President Donald Trump. He also regularly shares posts from fringe right-wing sites including Breitbart, and appears to be a proponent of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.



    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/tru...hite-genocide/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Supporters say that Trump isn't racist. Then why does he attract so many racists?
    By the same token, why does the far left attract so many racists?

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    Come again?
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    No signature from Trump (alias DD), no notary stamp. What exactly was she notarizing? Anywhere else, the entire agreement would be declared null and void.

    Texas notary's failure to sign Stormy Daniels' hush agreement is under investigation

    A notary in Forney, where Daniels lives, did not sign and date the 2016 agreement, which was finalized a few days before the presidential election. She also did not provide a certificate reflecting whose signature she was witnessing, according to the Texas Secretary of State.


    Notaries are third-party witnesses tasked with verifying that real people are signing legal documents.


    Texas law requires that notaries not only stamp documents, but sign and date them. They also must provide a certificate reflecting that they verified the identity of the signer or signers.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dona...-investigation

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    Trump ousts Tillerson, will replace him as Secretary of State with CIA chief Pompeo

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f68_story.html

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    And the plot to destroy NATO continues...
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!

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    Trump’s Personal Assistant Is Fired

    John McEntee was escorted out of White House for unspecified security issue
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...red-1520945928
    WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump’s personal assistant, John McEntee, was escorted out of the White House on Monday, two senior administration officials said. The cause of the firing was an unspecified security issue, said a third White House official with knowledge of the situation.


    White House press secretary Sarah Sanders declined to comment saying, “We don’t comment on personnel issues.” Mr. McEntee didn’t return a call seeking comment.


    Tuesday morning, the Trump presidential campaign issued a statement saying that Mr. McEntee will join the 2020 effort as a senior adviser for campaign operations.

    Mr. McEntee was one of the longest-serving aides to Mr. Trump, dating back to the earliest days of the campaign when some of the only aides around the then-candidate included Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser; Stephen Miller, the president’s policy director; White House communications director Hope Hicks, who announced her resignation two weeks ago; and Dan Scavino, who is the White House director of social media.
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    Rex Tillerson found out he was fired as secretary of State from President Donald Trump's tweet

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/till...mps-tweet.html

    Because Trump is a gutless worm...
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    Longtime Trump aide fired over financial crime investigation

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/polit...nce/index.html

    Another of Trump's "best people."
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    California ICE spokesman quits, accuses Trump administration of fake news

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ews/419277002/
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Probably because someone, late at night, said something bad about Tillerson on Fox and that he was making Trump look bad.

    State Department contradicts the White House: Tillerson has no idea why Trump decided to fire him

    In a statement sent to ABC News, the State Department said that Tillerson “had every intention of staying” at his job before he was fired, and he says that he “did not speak to the president and is unaware of the reason” for his firing.”


    This contradicts a report from White House sources on Tuesday morning that Trump informed Tillerson last Friday that he planned to fire him and replace him with current CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/sta...-decided-fire/

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    So Trump fires Tillerson. Replaces him with Pompeo, who's hawkish on the Iran deal, North Korea, encouraged Wikileaks against Clinton and supports torture. He then replaces Pompeo at the CIA with one of Bush's most infamous torturers, Gina Haspel.

    Gina Haspel, tapped to lead the CIA, oversaw torture in Bush-era extraordinary rendition program

    She played a direct role in the C.I.A.’s “extraordinary rendition program,” under which captured militants were handed to foreign governments and held at secret facilities, where they were tortured by agency personnel.


    The C.I.A.’s first overseas detention site was in Thailand. It was run by Ms. Haspel, who oversaw the brutal interrogations of two detainees, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.


    Mr. Zubaydah alone was waterboarded 83 times in a single month, had his head repeatedly slammed into walls and endured other harsh methods before interrogators decided he had no useful information to provide.


    The sessions were videotaped and the recordings stored in a safe at the C.I.A. station in Thailand until 2005, when they were ordered destroyed. By then, Ms. Haspel was serving at C.I.A. headquarters, and it was her name that was on the cable carrying the destruction orders.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...ndition-progam
    Remember how Mike Pompeo egged on WikiLeaks to attack Clinton during the campaign?

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...uring-campaign
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudly View Post
    Longtime Trump aide fired over financial crime investigation

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/polit...nce/index.html

    Another of Trump's "best people."
    Neck snapper!

    Trump aide abruptly fired – then hired by Trump's 2020 team

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-2020-campaign
    A longtime personal aide to Donald Trump was abruptly fired and escorted from the White House Monday afternoon, only to be hired immediately by Trump’s 2020 presidential campaign, according to multiple media reports and a campaign statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Out of all the news today, you focus on the gender of the CIA director, something that no one else in the thread has even mentioned? You're hilarious. I keep hoping that one day you'll take your head out of the sand, but nope... you just keep pushing it further in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Probably because someone, late at night, said something bad about Tillerson on Fox and that he was making Trump look bad.

    State Department contradicts the White House: Tillerson has no idea why Trump decided to fire him

    In a statement sent to ABC News, the State Department said that Tillerson “had every intention of staying” at his job before he was fired, and he says that he “did not speak to the president and is unaware of the reason” for his firing.”


    This contradicts a report from White House sources on Tuesday morning that Trump informed Tillerson last Friday that he planned to fire him and replace him with current CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/sta...-decided-fire/
    Well, the dude that made the statement regarding Tillerson has been fired as well. Seems you either agree with the lies, or you're out. Hey... isn't that how dictators normally run their countries?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ount-of-ouster

    The White House has reportedly fired an aide at the State Department who contradicted the White House account of President Trump's firing of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

    The Associated Press first reported the firing of Under Secretary of State Steve Goldstein, citing officials.

    The firing was reportedly prompted by a statement from Goldstein on Tuesday, responding to Tillerson's firing, in which Goldstein said Tillerson did not speak with Trump before his firing and is "unaware" of the reason behind his dismissal.

    The statement strongly suggested that Tillerson found out about his firing from Twitter — though it differs from published accounts of the decision that cited unnamed White House sources.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    So Trump fires Tillerson. Replaces him with Pompeo, who's hawkish on the Iran deal, North Korea, encouraged Wikileaks against Clinton and supports torture. He then replaces Pompeo at the CIA with one of Bush's most infamous torturers, Gina Haspel.

    Gina Haspel, tapped to lead the CIA, oversaw torture in Bush-era extraordinary rendition program

    She played a direct role in the C.I.A.’s “extraordinary rendition program,” under which captured militants were handed to foreign governments and held at secret facilities, where they were tortured by agency personnel.


    The C.I.A.’s first overseas detention site was in Thailand. It was run by Ms. Haspel, who oversaw the brutal interrogations of two detainees, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.


    Mr. Zubaydah alone was waterboarded 83 times in a single month, had his head repeatedly slammed into walls and endured other harsh methods before interrogators decided he had no useful information to provide.


    The sessions were videotaped and the recordings stored in a safe at the C.I.A. station in Thailand until 2005, when they were ordered destroyed. By then, Ms. Haspel was serving at C.I.A. headquarters, and it was her name that was on the cable carrying the destruction orders.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...ndition-progam
    Remember how Mike Pompeo egged on WikiLeaks to attack Clinton during the campaign?

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...uring-campaign
    Yeah, Trump's pick of only 'the best people' like Gina Haspel who may be barred from going to Europe as she may be arrested upon arrival and saw to it that evidence was destroyed.

    On June 7, 2017, the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights called on the Public Prosecutor General of Germany to issue an arrest warrant against Haspel over claims she oversaw the torture of terrorism suspects. The complaint against her is centered on the case of Saudi national Abu Zubaydah
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_C...es_destruction
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    Tillerson was a big oil tycoon, I thought big oil was a no no.

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    Ha ha - it's amazing how Trump has just made so many people on the left suddenly defend a wealthy Exxon tycoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Out of all the news today, you focus on the gender of the CIA director, something that no one else in the thread has even mentioned?
    I am so sorry. Please accept my most sincere heartfelt apologies.

    I didn't know I was forbidden to mention that Trump appointed a new CIA director in this forum's Trump thread. What was I thinking!

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    Torture is also a no-no. From my link above.

    The C.I.A.’s first overseas detention site was in Thailand. It was run by Ms. Haspel, who oversaw the brutal interrogations of two detainees, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.




    Mr. Zubaydah alone was waterboarded 83 times in a single month, had his head repeatedly slammed into walls and endured other harsh methods before interrogators decided he had no useful information to provide.




    The sessions were videotaped and the recordings stored in a safe at the C.I.A. station in Thailand until 2005, when they were ordered destroyed. By then, Ms. Haspel was serving at C.I.A. headquarters, and it was her name that was on the cable carrying the destruction orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Out of all the news today, you focus on the gender of the CIA director, something that no one else in the thread has even mentioned?
    I am so sorry. Please accept my most sincere heartfelt apologies.

    I didn't know I was forbidden to mention that Trump appointed a new CIA director in this forum's Trump thread. What was I thinking!
    BS, you just wanted to draw a false equivalency.

    You did fail to mention that she broke the rules in the Geneva Convention and could be prosecuted as a War Criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Out of all the news today, you focus on the gender of the CIA director, something that no one else in the thread has even mentioned?
    I am so sorry. Please accept my most sincere heartfelt apologies.

    I didn't know I was forbidden to mention that Trump appointed a new CIA director in this forum's Trump thread. What was I thinking!
    You may want to work on your communication skills and reading comprehension, because you were bringing up her gender to make some point, and then ignored my comment about you bringing up her gender in my reply. No wonder you have such a hard time following all the links between Russia and Trump's cohorts when you can't even read and comprehend a sentence.
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    Ah, Haspel the waterboarding expert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Out of all the news today, you focus on the gender of the CIA director, something that no one else in the thread has even mentioned?
    I am so sorry. Please accept my most sincere heartfelt apologies.

    I didn't know I was forbidden to mention that Trump appointed a new CIA director in this forum's Trump thread. What was I thinking!
    You may want to work on your communication skills and reading comprehension, because you were bringing up her gender to make some point, and then ignored my comment about you bringing up her gender in my reply. No wonder you have such a hard time following all the links between Russia and Trump's cohorts when you can't even read and comprehend a sentence.
    Sexist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Out of all the news today, you focus on the gender of the CIA director, something that no one else in the thread has even mentioned?
    I am so sorry. Please accept my most sincere heartfelt apologies.

    I didn't know I was forbidden to mention that Trump appointed a new CIA director in this forum's Trump thread. What was I thinking!
    BS, you just wanted to draw a false equivalency.

    You did fail to mention that she broke the rules in the Geneva Convention and could be prosecuted as a War Criminal.
    Sexist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Nice pivot. She can't even go to Europe without getting arrested for war crimes. Didn't realize it was sexist to not approve of a woman because of what they've done. Almost like you're trying to deflect from an awful choice by Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump appointed a woman as the CIA director?

    This sexism needs to stop!!!
    Out of all the news today, you focus on the gender of the CIA director, something that no one else in the thread has even mentioned?
    I am so sorry. Please accept my most sincere heartfelt apologies.

    I didn't know I was forbidden to mention that Trump appointed a new CIA director in this forum's Trump thread. What was I thinking!
    You may want to work on your communication skills and reading comprehension, because you were bringing up her gender to make some point, and then ignored my comment about you bringing up her gender in my reply. No wonder you have such a hard time following all the links between Russia and Trump's cohorts when you can't even read and comprehend a sentence.
    Sexist.
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    If you don't drink Trump's Kool-Aid, you're fired. Only he gets to determine what is truth. Remember "Alternate facts"

    Top Tillerson aide fired after contradicting White House account of firing

    The firing was reportedly prompted by a statement from Goldstein on Tuesday, responding to Tillerson's firing, in which Goldstein said Tillerson did not speak with Trump before his firing and is "unaware" of the reason behind his dismissal.


    The statement strongly suggested that Tillerson found out about his firing from Twitter — though it differs from published accounts of the decision that cited unnamed White House sources.


    Goldstein also said Tillerson had "every intention of staying" before his firing.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ount-of-ouster

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    Carson claims he's shocked by the price of dining room set. Says neither he nor his wife had anything to do with it. Asks for God's guidance to do what's right.

    Apparently God told him to lie about it.
    Ben Carson claimed he was ‘shocked’ by $31,000 dining set, but emails show he knew all along

    In a March 1 statement, Carson said that he was “shocked” by the dining set’s pricetag and “made it known that I was not happy about the prices being charged and that my preference would be to find something more reasonable.” HUD spokesman Raffi Williams denied that Ben or his wife Candy had any involvement in the purchase process at all, telling CNN at the time that “Mrs. Carson and the secretary had no awareness that the table was being purchased.”


    But the newly released emails show that the Carsons in fact selected the furniture themselves.


    The emails were first reported by CNN. According to CNN’s report, “an August email from a career administration staffer, with the subject line ‘Secretary’s dining room set needed,’ to Carson’s assistant refers to ‘printouts of the furniture the Secretary and Mrs. Carson picked out.'”

    https://thinkprogress.org/ben-carson...-3994a4d084d9/
    And how much was the total budget? $5,000. For the entire office before they had to get congressional approval. So they simply lied right from the start and hid it. While cutting housing programs for the poor because carson thought people "were getting too comfortable"


    Helen Foster, then HUD’s chief administration officer, wrote in a complaint that shortly before President Trump’s inauguration, acting secretary Craig Clemmensen told her that Carson’s wife, Candy Carson, wanted her husband’s office upgraded. Foster told Clemmensen that the department could not spend more than $5,000 on decorating the office without congressional approval, Foster wrote in her complaint, The Washington Post reported.


    Clemmensen responded to Foster that “$5000 will not even buy a decent chair,” according to her complaint. He instructed her to “find money,” Foster wrote.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ed8b6f45e9b6
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    Big loss for the Trump team last night in Pennsylvania. A 20 percent loss from 2016. Looks like a huge slide in 2018 and Trump may be faced with the House and the Senate may flip in November. If so, Trump's days are numbered and his 2020 campaign is a non-starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Carson claims he's shocked by the price of dining room set. Says neither he nor his wife had anything to do with it. Asks for God's guidance to do what's right.

    Apparently God told him to lie about it.
    Ben Carson claimed he was ‘shocked’ by $31,000 dining set, but emails show he knew all along

    In a March 1 statement, Carson said that he was “shocked” by the dining set’s pricetag and “made it known that I was not happy about the prices being charged and that my preference would be to find something more reasonable.” HUD spokesman Raffi Williams denied that Ben or his wife Candy had any involvement in the purchase process at all, telling CNN at the time that “Mrs. Carson and the secretary had no awareness that the table was being purchased.”


    But the newly released emails show that the Carsons in fact selected the furniture themselves.


    The emails were first reported by CNN. According to CNN’s report, “an August email from a career administration staffer, with the subject line ‘Secretary’s dining room set needed,’ to Carson’s assistant refers to ‘printouts of the furniture the Secretary and Mrs. Carson picked out.'”

    https://thinkprogress.org/ben-carson...-3994a4d084d9/
    The good old swamp.

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    Big loss for the Trump team last night in Pennsylvania. A 20 percent loss from 2016. Looks like a huge slide in 2018 and Trump may be faced with the House and the Senate may flip in November. If so, Trump's days are numbered and his 2020 campaign is a non-starter.
    Yay! Finally, some good news.
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