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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Israel bans Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib hours after President Trump takes to Twitter.

    This morning, Israel reverses their position and will allow Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib into their country.
    And now Rep Tlaib is refusing to go to Israel now that she is allowed.

    Just a vile political stunt by another vile politician.
    Vile? Which one are you referring to? There seems to be a tit-for-tat series of political stunts occurring here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump abandons plans to buy Greenland after being advised that the island is not suitable for golf courses.

    Trump complained that calling it 'Greenland' was 'Fake News' and the Dens were at fault for misleading him.

    Trump was further advised that the Democrats did not own Denmark.
    Putin then called Trump to scold him for such a poor execution of their plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Israel bans Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib hours after President Trump takes to Twitter.

    This morning, Israel reverses their position and will allow Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib into their country.

    And now Rep Tlaib is refusing to go to Israel now that she is allowed.

    Just a vile political stunt by another vile politician.
    Yes, Trump is vile

    She was only allowed under strict conditions including canceling of her meetings.

    Coming from a US ally that declares itself a free democracy, that an elected Congresswoman would be under such a short leash, no wonder why she canceled.

    Sounds like the government of Israel and Trump are scared of her.
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    2008 deal:

    Florida Officials Let ‘Jailed’ Jeffrey Epstein See Alleged Accomplices

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...dia-marcinkova

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump abandons plans to buy Greenland after being advised that the island is not suitable for golf courses.

    Trump complained that calling it 'Greenland' was 'Fake News' and the Dens were at fault for misleading him.

    Trump was further advised that the Democrats did not own Denmark.
    Putin then called Trump to scold him for such a poor execution of their plan.
    Nah, Trump just thought it would mean free danishes for life.
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    "What the hell is all this ice doing here? I thought this place was called Greenland!"

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    Greenland has ice.Iceland is warm.

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    Is Slate magazine real news? I can't tell anymore. But they did allegedly receive and publish leaked audio from a meeting at the New York Times where their Executive Editor Dean Baquet literally tells everyone to redirect their emphasis from the Russian Collusion story and start shifting emphasis to "Trump is a racist" stories.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    This is literally how news rooms shift the news cycle every week or so in order to draw ratings. They don't report what's happening, they just write stories about whatever they want their liberal followers to eat up and talk about at the time. Just look at how the discussion here changes every time another left-leaner posts their latest panic over Trump (whatever the news decides that is).

    Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating everything the journalists are trying to get you to think. They call it news "programming" for a reason.

    I think everyone would love some news sources that simply report only facts, and report them in their in their entirety instead of always injecting their own opinions in the headlines and the articles.

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    Slate, about 1,000 times more reputable than your Twitter sources.

    Slate does have a strong left wing bias which is a reason why I don't use it much
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabi...m/slate/%3famp
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 18-08-2019 at 12:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Is Slate magazine real news? I can't tell anymore. But they did allegedly receive and publish leaked audio from a meeting at the New York Times where their Executive Editor Dean Baquet literally tells everyone to redirect their emphasis from the Russian Collusion story and start shifting emphasis to "Trump is a racist" stories.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    This is literally how news rooms shift the news cycle every week or so in order to draw ratings. They don't report what's happening, they just write stories about whatever they want their liberal followers to eat up and talk about at the time. Just look at how the discussion here changes every time another left-leaner posts their latest panic over Trump (whatever the news decides that is).

    Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating everything the journalists are trying to get you to think. They call it news "programming" for a reason.

    I think everyone would love some news sources that simply report only facts, and report them in their in their entirety instead of always injecting their own opinions in the headlines and the articles.
    Reporting facts doesn’t sell. Also why do you differentiate by saying “liberal followers”? All followers of every media, blog or nutcase are followers because they follow. It’s just human nature and it’s efficient - and it applies to all.

    Where do you get your news? How are your sources and your reactions any different?

    You’re own username here is MrOilers. (You didn’t use Sports or MrSports but chose MrOilers. That’s always been interesting for a number of reasons. )

    So anyway - on media as a business and therefore it’s story selection, ever watch sports news during a strike? Five or ten minutes to cover any of the many other sports and instead they produce strike news (which is business and politics but not exactly sports news. And viewers eat it up.
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  11. #9711

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    MrOilers has jinxed the real team since he appropriated the moniker.

    He should be run out of town on a rail....
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  12. #9712

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Slate, about 1,000 times more reputable than your Twitter sources.
    What are you talking about? That link was posted on Slate's Twitter account:

    https://twitter.com/Slate/status/1163283184437604353

    I think you need to read up on what Twitter is and how it works.

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    No, the link you gave was

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    NOT Twitter.

    Anyone can have a Twitter account and it is not considered media news.

    Even some old fart that lies 20 times a day can post on Twitter and only the gullible believes everything he posts without question or discernment.
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 18-08-2019 at 09:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    No, the link you gave was

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    NOT Twitter.

    Anyone can have a Twitter account and it is not considered media news.

    Even some old fart that lies 20 times a day can post on Twitter and only the gullible believes everything he posts without question or discernment.

    That's the same link Slate posted on their verified Twitter page (which is where I found it).

    It's 2019, grandpa. Stop looking silly and learn how the media uses Twitter to spread links to their content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Is Slate magazine real news? I can't tell anymore. But they did allegedly receive and publish leaked audio from a meeting at the New York Times where their Executive Editor Dean Baquet literally tells everyone to redirect their emphasis from the Russian Collusion story and start shifting emphasis to "Trump is a racist" stories.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    This is literally how news rooms shift the news cycle every week or so in order to draw ratings. They don't report what's happening, they just write stories about whatever they want their liberal followers to eat up and talk about at the time. Just look at how the discussion here changes every time another left-leaner posts their latest panic over Trump (whatever the news decides that is).

    Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating everything the journalists are trying to get you to think. They call it news "programming" for a reason.

    I think everyone would love some news sources that simply report only facts, and report them in their in their entirety instead of always injecting their own opinions in the headlines and the articles.
    More here but not a biased spin as you provided, but an actual quotation. Here’s more on your executive bias:



    Inside the New York Times town hall.

    “Staffers repeatedly asked Baquet about the paper’s reluctance to use the word racist, in part because his explanations seemed inconsistent. Calling it a “bizarre litmus test,” Baquet argued it was “more powerful” to avoid directly using the label. “The best way to capture a remark, like the kinds of remarks the president makes, is to use them, to lay it out in perspective,” he said. “That is much more powerful than the use of a word.” ...”

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html
    Bolding mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    MrOilers has jinxed the real team since he appropriated the moniker.

    He should be run out of town on a rail....
    to montreal???
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    MrOilers has jinxed the real team since he appropriated the moniker.

    He should be run out of town on a rail....
    to montreal???
    Hahaha

    What ever did happen to Montreal PRT’s loyalty to Edmonton?

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    Look who is still obsessing about the 2016 election...

    TRUMP, CRANKING THE CRAZY TO 11, SAYS GOOGLE COST HIM “16 MILLION VOTES”

    Donald Trump has spent a significant portion of the past two and a half years soothing his deeply fragile ego by insisting he would have beaten Hillary Clinton in the popular vote if not for rampant fraud. His argument has typically centered around the repeatedly discredited claim that “millions of people” voted illegally in the 2016 election, which he formed and then disbanded a presidential commission to investigate. On Monday, though, he proffered a new theory for why Clinton kicked his extremely sensitive *** by nearly 3 million votes
    Donald J. [email protected]
    Wow, Report Just Out! Google manipulated from 2.6 million to 16 million votes for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Election! This was put out by a Clinton supporter, not a Trump Supporter! Google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought! @JudicialWatch


    Hillary responds


    Hillary [email protected]
    The debunked study you’re referring to was based on 21 undecided voters. For context that’s about half the number of people associated with your campaign who have been indicted.


    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...e-popular-vote
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    Right-wing pundit scorched for claiming zero Republicans challenged Obama’s legitimacy

    On Monday, right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro made a head-turning claim: That President Donald Trump deserves respect because no Republicans ever questioned President Barack Obama’s legitimacy:

    Confronted with the fact that Trump himself promulgated the “Birther” conspiracy theory that Obama wasn’t born in the United States, Shapiro pled No True Scotsman, insisting that Trump didn’t really count as a “Republican figure” back in the early 2010s when he was spreading Birther lies — and that Republican officeholders at the time didn’t agree with the delegitimization of the president
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...66350444970958
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    “The Pope and Trump were on stage in front of a huge crowd.

    The Pope leaned towards Mr. Trump and said, “Do you know that with one little wave of my hand, I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but go deep into their hearts and for the rest of their lives whenever they speak of this day, they will rejoice!”

    Trump replied, “I seriously doubt that. With one little wave of your hand? Show me!”


    So the Pope slapped him”

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    All the evidence leaking out over the last few years indicates that Google is purposely using their search engine and search results to push certain politics and suppress others. They are doing a lot more work in China recently. The very last thing we need is our society is a Chinese-style authoritarian internet.

    It's not "the Russians" we need to worry about when it comes to our election tampering - the true threat is creeping in from China.

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    Well, Trump has done diddly squat about Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump's only worry about Russian election interference in the 2020 election is that Trump won't get enough of it.

    MrOilers, can you provide a source of your claim about this Google conspiracy theory? Not twitter this time, pleeease...

    Just because Trump makes a claim on Twitter, you drink his purple kool aid without question and ask for seconds



    Fact check: Trump falsely claims Google 'manipulated' millions of 2016 votes
    By Daniel Dale, CNN https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/polit...aim/index.html
    Washington (CNN)In a tweet on Monday, President Donald Trump made a sensational allegation about Google.

    "Wow, Report Just Out! Google manipulated from 2.6 million to 16 million votes for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Election! This was put out by a Clinton supporter, not a Trump Supporter! Google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought! @JudicialWatch," Trump wrote.

    He was referring to a study by psychologist Robert Epstein, which was discussed on Fox Business earlier on Monday.

    But Trump did not describe the research correctly. And the research itself has been called into question.

    Facts First: Epstein himself says Trump was wrong about his findings. Epstein did find "bias" in Google search results, but he says there is no evidence Google "manipulated" the results to favor Clinton. Also, critics of the study note that there is no definitive link between search results and voting behavior in presidential elections.


    First let's address what Epstein says Trump got wrong. Then we'll delve into Epstein's research.
    Trump's words and numbers were inaccurate

    Epstein, who testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in July, found what he alleges was a pro-Clinton bias in Google's search results.
    In an interview with CNN on Monday, Epstein said the pro-Clinton bias was "sufficient to have shifted between 2.6 and 10.4 million votes" to Clinton.
    There is no basis in Epstein's research for Trump's claim that the alleged bias might have affected "16 million" votes. Epstein did testify in July that big tech companies in general could potentially shift "upwards of 15 million votes" in the 2020 election, but he didn't claim that this happened in 2016.

    In the Monday interview, Epstein rejected Trump's claim that Google "manipulated" votes in 2016. He said he does not have firm evidence even that Google intentionally manipulated its search algorithm or results, let alone votes themselves.


    "I don't have any evidence that Google manipulated anything. I just have evidence that there was this bias -- highly statistically significantly bias," he said.
    Also Trump totally ignores the fact that Fox News was highly biased and acted as the Trump Campaign propaganda machine.

    Now that Fox becomes more factual and less biased, Trump has lashed out against Fox very viciously.
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    Senate Committee Testimony from Dr Robert Epstein on Search Engine Manipulation:

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c48084...tein-testimony

    He says that Google's biased search engine results alone gave Hillary Clinton (who he admits he voted for) an extra 2.6 million votes. He says that biases in search results may have preferentially-shifted as many as 78 million views towards one political party over the other. He later says that they have the ability to sway as many as 15 million votes to one candidate over the other.

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    Yeah, some in-depth study. Not even 100 people

    For this study, he had 95 people from 24 states, including 21 self-described undecided voters, conduct election-related searches using search engines Google, Yahoo and Bing.
    Criticism of the dataOther academics have joined Google in criticizing Epstein's methodology and conclusions.
    One issue is the quality of news sources.
    Google says one of its criteria for ranking news results is how authoritative a source is. Using Epstein's methodology, a search engine whose top results page did not feature an article from a far-right pro-Trump website, such as Breitbart, would be ranked as more biased in favor of Clinton than a search engine that did showcase Breitbart -- even if the first search engine highlighted a deeply informative Washington Post investigation about Trump's past and the second search engine highlighted Breitbart's pro-Trump puff piece.
    Epstein emphasized that he is not a Trump fan. But he argued that Google results should not be treating pro-Trump media as second-class "for whatever reason, whatever your excuse."
    "I've certainly met people that say Breitbart is a more reliable news source than the New York Times ... there's a lot of subjectivity that goes into these kinds of determinations," he said.
    Another issue, other academics say, is that Epstein's study did not establish a link between alleged bias in search results and voter behavior in 2016.
    Epstein said he came to the conclusion of bias sufficient to affect 2.6 million to 10.4 million votes based on what he has found in studies of national elections outside the US, including the 2010 Australian prime minister election and a 2014 Indian legislative election.
    In other words: Epstein did not test 2016 American voters to see if their Clinton-or-Trump choice had been changed by search results they got. He extrapolated from his previous studies.
    In an American presidential election, people tend to know so much about the two leading candidates, and are getting news from so many different sources, that it is not at all clear that search results would affect their preferences the same way they might in other settings where they have less information, said Michael McDonald, a political science professor and elections expert at the University of Florida.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/polit...aim/index.html

    Hyper extrapolation
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    All the evidence leaking out over the last few years indicates that Google is purposely using their search engine and search results to push certain politics and suppress others. They are doing a lot more work in China recently. The very last thing we need is our society is a Chinese-style authoritarian internet.

    It's not "the Russians" we need to worry about when it comes to our election tampering - the true threat is creeping in from China.
    It is indeed the Russians that have been tampering with elections in most western countries. China is no saint. Google is a free enterprise, and certain can push what ever its wants, no different that your buddy alex jones is free to do what ever he wants on his OWN domain. If (big if) google wants to censor hate speech and misinformation (again, referencing your good buddy Alex Jones), It can. Just like I can refuse to serve you at my restaurant (like what's happening to many top republicans in the states)
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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    Love how Trump is always accusing people of the exact thing he's up to.
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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    Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    Yeah, not so much what Trump is claiming. Big surprise.

    The new report that Trump says shows Google 'manipulated' 2.6 million votes for Hillary Clinton is a 2-year-old study that a San Diego psychologist based on 95 people

    It turns out, the report Trump appears to have been referring to was a 2017 report by a San Diego psychologist with a history of feuding with Google. The report, which one expert on the US election process characterized to Business Insider as having a "weird" methodology and lots of "red flags," was based on 95 participants.

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    But Epstein told CNN on Monday that Trump misrepresented his findings, saying that they didn't prove Google actively "manipulated" millions of voters but rather that the bias he found in its search results was "sufficient to have shifted between 2.6 and 10.4 million votes" to Clinton.

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    Epstein had a public spat with Google in 2012 after the search engine warned users that his website had been infected by malware. Epstein also is quoted about Google's supposed search manipulation in a series of 2016 articles on Russian sites such as RT and Sputniknews.com that claimed the search engine was hiding information indicating Clinton had health problems.

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    But the 2015 study's findings were based on asking US residents to cast hypothetical votes for candidates in Australia's 2010 prime ministerial election based on information they saw in Google search results.

    Dr. Michael McDonald, an associate professor of political science at the University of Florida, expressed skepticism to Business Insider that Epstein's 2015 findings regarding Google's search rankings influencing American decisions about elections in Australia — a topic most American study participants would have little information about beforehand — could be applied directly to the US presidential elections.

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    For one, Epstein wrote in his report that after the study was completed, results from participants using Google's email service, Gmail, were discarded, thus changing the number of eligible participants to a lower, undisclosed number.


    Epstein said Gmail users were removed because some of their search queries appeared "automated" and, overall, those using Google's email service saw results that were far less biased than non-Gmail users.


    "That's a weird methodological choice to take some of your results and throw them out after you've done the experiment because they seem to not fit your designed story," Levitt said. "That's something that sets off a bunch of red flags."



    https://www.businessinsider.com/red-...rce=reddit.com

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    Another one of Trump's "fine people"

    Feds Arrest Neo-Nazi Trump Fan for Threatening to "Exterminate" Miami Hispanics
    JERRY IANNELLI | AUGUST 20, 2019

    "In 3 short years your entire Race your entire culture will Perish only then after I kill your Spic family I will permit you to die by hanging on Metal Wire [sic]," Lin allegedly wrote June 7. The next day, he told C.I. he planned to "enslave, rape, and use you like a baby-making machine. Once I'm finished with you I might just get rid of you like a piece of trash." The same day, he allegedly also said he would kill C.I. with a rifle while carrying a neo-Nazi dagger used by the SS.


    The messages only continued. He allegedly said he wanted to "exterminate" the "worthless Latin race." July 9, he sent more Nazi-referencing threats. "By the authority of ADOLF HITLER AND GOD I HEREBY DECLARE SPANISH AND ALL SPANISH-SPEAKING PEOPLE ILLEGAL," Lin allegedly wrote. "[T]hat's ALL I NEED AUTHORITY FROM ADOLF HITLER TO ACT. I FOLLOW ONLY ADOLF HITLER AND THEN GOD. THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME." He again threatened to kill every Hispanic person in Miami and at one point told C.I. he would "drink your blood until you die."


    The messages then trod pro-Trump territory. July 19, Lin allegedly wrote:


    I thank god every day Donald John Trump is President and that he will launch a Racial War and Crusade to keep the Niggers, Spics, and Muslims and any dangerous non-White or Ethnically or Culturally foreign group "In Line." By "in Line" it is meant that they will either be sent to "Concentration Camps" or dealt with Ruthlessly and Vigorously by the United States Military.

    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/n...-says-11247579

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    Trump actually tweeted this.

    Trump tweets image of enormous Trump Tower on Greenland







    https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...reenland-tower
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    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-spent...report-1455319
    President Donald Trump has spent nearly a third of his presidency visiting his business properties at taxpayer expense, according to a new report by the government watchdog group Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington.CREW has found over 2,300 conflicts of interest resulting from Trump's decision not to divest ownership of his global business empire upon entering office. The group used social media, news reports, Freedom of Information Act responses and other sources of information to tally these instances. The nonprofit added that there are likely more conflicts of interest than the ones they have been able to identify.
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    A very stable genius

    Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time....

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...61882945970176

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    OK, loyalty to who? To Trump? To America? To Israel? To Judaism?

    Trump says any Jew who votes Democratic is 'disloyal' or lacks knowledge
    Comments denounced by Jewish-American groups, but defended by Republican Jewish Coalition


    Showing a fresh willingness to play politics along religious and racial lines, U.S. President Donald Trump said Tuesday that American Jewish people who vote for Democrats show "either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."


    Trump's claim triggered a quick uproar from critics who said the president was trading in anti-Semitic stereotypes. It came amid his ongoing feud with Democratic congresswomen Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, both Muslim.


    Trump has closely aligned himself with Israel, including its conservative prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while the Muslim lawmakers have been outspoken critics of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Tlaib is a U.S.-born Palestinian American, while Omar was born in Somalia.

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    Trump's comments were denounced swiftly by Jewish American organizations.


    "This is yet another example of Donald Trump continuing to weaponize and politicize anti-Semitism," said Halie Soifer, executive director of the Jewish Democratic Council of America. "At a time when anti-Semitic incidents have increased — due to the president's emboldening of white nationalism — Trump is repeating an anti-Semitic trope."


    Logan Bayroff of the liberal J Street pro-Israel group said it was "no surprise that the president's racist, disingenuous attacks on progressive women of colour in Congress have now transitioned into smears against Jews."


    "It is dangerous and shameful for President Trump to attack the large majority of the American Jewish community as unintelligent and 'disloyal,"' Bayroff said. A number of groups noted that accusations of disloyalty have long been made against Jews, including in Europe during the 1930s.

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    A Pew Research Centre poll conducted in April found that among Jewish Americans, 42 per cent said Trump is favouring the Israelis too much, 6 per cent said he's favouring the Palestinians too much and 47 per cent said he's striking the right balance. Jews were more likely than Christians to say Trump favours the Israelis too much, 42per cent to 26 per cent.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-...edge-1.5254115


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    A very stable genius

    Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time....

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...61882945970176
    I believe the technical term to describe Mr. Trump's tweet is hissy fit.

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    Well for Trump, if your only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, then you see every problem as a nail.

    If your only talent is your mouth, then all you do is boast and lie...

    If your only friend is a Russian dictator, then you want him to join the G7...

    If the only book you ever read is Mein Kampf, then your world view is a xenophobic, racist narcissist...
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    There's some other reason he bailed on that trip... the hissy-fit was just a smokescreen. The real reason will come out eventually.

    BTW, a buddy picked me up a copy of Trumped! (https://www.amazon.com/Trumped-Insid.../dp/067173735X) from a garage sale, and even 30+ years ago Trump was a brainless *****-show like we see now.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-spent...report-1455319
    President Donald Trump has spent nearly a third of his presidency visiting his business properties at taxpayer expense, according to a new report by the government watchdog group Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington.CREW has found over 2,300 conflicts of interest resulting from Trump's decision not to divest ownership of his global business empire upon entering office. The group used social media, news reports, Freedom of Information Act responses and other sources of information to tally these instances. The nonprofit added that there are likely more conflicts of interest than the ones they have been able to identify.
    Seems to be pretty factual reporting.

    Any comment from our local foreign Trump fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post


    Trump actually tweeted this.

    Trump tweets image of enormous Trump Tower on Greenland







    https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...reenland-tower
    Shouldn’t it be green?

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    Cue the Hitler comparisons.

    Trump accuses Jewish Democrat voters of 'great disloyalty' - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49417157



    Hitler oath - Wikipedia

    “Prior to the decree, both members of the armed forces and civil servants had sworn loyalty to "the People and the Fatherland" (Volk und Vaterland); civil servants had additionally sworn to uphold the constitution and laws of Germany. The new law decreed that instead, both members of the armed forces and civil servants would swear an oath to Hitler personally.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    All the evidence leaking out over the last few years indicates that Google is purposely using their search engine and search results to push certain politics and suppress others. They are doing a lot more work in China recently. The very last thing we need is our society is a Chinese-style authoritarian internet.

    It's not "the Russians" we need to worry about when it comes to our election tampering - the true threat is creeping in from China.
    So you’d opt for Trump-style authoritarianism?
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    Seems that Trump may get re-elected because he’s a tariffic guy.




    Despite an Ongoing Trade War, Iowa Farmers Stick With President Trump

    “August 19, 2019

    In the U.S.-China trade war, no one has been hit harder than America's farmers. In Boone County, Iowa, Cheddar's J.D. Durkin spoke with Morey Hill, an Iowa soybean farmer, who is sticking with the president despite China's promise to stop buying U.S. agricultural products.”

    https://cheddar.com/media/despite-an...resident-trump


    US-China trade war is hurting farmers, but they're sticking with Trump

    “President Donald Trump may be a resort-dwelling real estate magnate who entered politics via golden escalator, but even a trade war with China hasn't tarnished his image as a champion for an unlikely group: farmers and ranchers.
    Farmers are one of the most visible casualties of the U.S.-China trade war, which escalated sharply this week as both sides landed blows that could hold potentially devastating consequences for U.S. agriculture.
    Yet farmers appear to be sticking by Trump — not just the Republican they largely supported in the 2016 election, but the trade warrior who has put their industries in China's sights. And while they're far from the largest group in Trump's corner, farmers could prove to be a crucial voting bloc in the 2020 election.
    ...”


    “The Purdue Center for Commercial Agriculture's latest producer survey, which was conducted last month and released Tuesday, showed a record-high 78% of farmers said they believe the trade war will ultimately benefit U.S. agriculture. That roughly matches Trump's overall approval rating of 79% among farmers, according to a Farm Pulse survey conducted around the same time.”


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/07/us-c...ith-trump.html
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    Way ahead of you. May, 2017, 4 months after taking office

    Comey was taken aback by Trump request for loyalty pledge

    As CNN reported, Comey's refusal to pledge loyalty is one of the reasons the President fired him, the other being the acceleration of the probe into alleged collusion between Trump's presidential campaign and Russia.


    The initial, official White House version of how and why Comey was fired was that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, fresh on the job, wrote a memo expressing concern about the way Comey had handled the Hillary Clinton email investigation.


    But mounting evidence suggests Comey was actually fired because of the Russian investigation.

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/polit...dge/index.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Way ahead of you. May, 2017, 4 months after taking office

    Comey was taken aback by Trump request for loyalty pledge

    As CNN reported, Comey's refusal to pledge loyalty is one of the reasons the President fired him, the other being the acceleration of the probe into alleged collusion between Trump's presidential campaign and Russia.


    The initial, official White House version of how and why Comey was fired was that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, fresh on the job, wrote a memo expressing concern about the way Comey had handled the Hillary Clinton email investigation.


    But mounting evidence suggests Comey was actually fired because of the Russian investigation.

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/polit...dge/index.html

    The actual dinner meeting and Trump's demand for a loyalty pledge happened only 7 days after Trump took office.

    https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproje...ey-firing.html

    Authoritarian autocrats who violate the Constitution, move fast once they seize power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Cue the Hitler comparisons.

    Trump accuses Jewish Democrat voters of 'great disloyalty' - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49417157



    Hitler oath - Wikipedia

    “Prior to the decree, both members of the armed forces and civil servants had sworn loyalty to "the People and the Fatherland" (Volk und Vaterland); civil servants had additionally sworn to uphold the constitution and laws of Germany. The new law decreed that instead, both members of the armed forces and civil servants would swear an oath to Hitler personally.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath
    Trump doubles down, double-doubles down, infinitely doubles down, claims he is like God.

    Trump promotes claim Jewish Israelis love him like he is 'King of Israel and second coming of God'

    Trump quotes conspiracy theorist claiming Israelis 'love him like he is the second coming of God,” Trump tweeted ...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9072951.html
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    From author Stephen Barnes on Facebook

    Steven Barnes
    If Jews who vote Democrat are "disloyal", and the majority of Jews vote Democrat, you have just officially proposed a reason to distrust the typical American Jew.

    https://www.facebook.com/steven.barn...Gca0tw&fref=nf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Cue the Hitler comparisons.

    Trump accuses Jewish Democrat voters of 'great disloyalty' - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49417157



    Hitler oath - Wikipedia

    “Prior to the decree, both members of the armed forces and civil servants had sworn loyalty to "the People and the Fatherland" (Volk und Vaterland); civil servants had additionally sworn to uphold the constitution and laws of Germany. The new law decreed that instead, both members of the armed forces and civil servants would swear an oath to Hitler personally.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath
    Trump doubles down, double-doubles down, infinitely doubles down, claims he is like God.

    Trump promotes claim Jewish Israelis love him like he is 'King of Israel and second coming of God'

    Trump quotes conspiracy theorist claiming Israelis 'love him like he is the second coming of God,” Trump tweeted ...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9072951.html
    Wayne Allyn Root sounds like he's right up Trump's alley.


    Wayne Allyn Root - Conspiracy theories

    Root was a leading proponent of the conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.[26] At one point, Root falsely claimed that Obama was not a student at Columbia University;[4] at another point, in an interview with Sean Hannity, Root said that he believed that Obama was a "foreign exchange student" at Columbia.[5] Root has described Obama as a "Marxist, anti-American, anti-Israel, globalist, middle class-hating, Muslim sympathizer".[5] He also claimed that Obama was gay, called him "Bathhouse Barry" and said that he had info from Obama's "friends in Chicago" about Obama's "sordid past".[5] He has described Obama as a "Manchurian candidate", possibly hired by the Bilderberg Group to destroy the United States and "kill all of us".[5]


    He promoted conspiracy theories around the murder of Seth Rich, and at various times suggested that Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Hillary Clinton, Donna Brazile, Bill Clinton, Eric Schneiderman and John Podesta were involved in the murder.[5]


    During the white supremacist Unite the Right rally, Root falsely claimed that the white supremacist James Alex Fields Jr. who killed Heather Heyer was "such B.S. Probably paid actors & infiltrators hired by Soros. No conservative I’ve ever met commits violence. EVER."[5]


    Root tweeted in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas shooting: "This is a real thing. Clearly Coordinated Muslim Terror attack. PRAY for our Vegas police. PRAY for victims. VERY bad. Awful."[27] It was later confirmed that the shooter was 64-year-old Mesquite, Nevada, resident Stephen Paddock.[28] Root then defended his original claim by tweeting: "Terrible day. Liberal fools criticizing me 4 reporting what I hear DIRECT from police & credible news sources. I report it as I hear it."[29]


    Root argued that Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election is motivated by "penis envy", because "Mueller’s is smaller than Trump’s."[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_...iracy_theories

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    Rudy steps in to explain what Trump meant. Or something.

    Rudy Giuliani accuses majority of US Jews of ‘disloyalty to Israel’ — and gets torn to pieces

    Writing on Twitter, Giuliani explained that Trump wasn’t saying Jewish Democrats were disloyal to America — rather, he was saying they were being disloyal to Israel.

    ---

    Accusing Jews of having “dual loyalty” to both the United States and Israel is an anti-Semitic slur that has been used to paint American Jews as foreign agents in their own country. Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) drew heavy criticism earlier this year when she said that members of Congress were so in lockstep in support for the Israeli government that it was akin to having “allegiance to a foreign country.”


    Omar, however, never explicitly said that it was American Jews who had “allegiance to a foreign country” — and now Giuliani is flat-out stating that American Jews should have dual loyalties to both America and Israel.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/rud...orn-to-pieces/
    And Donald agrees.

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    Video at the link




    “I am the chosen one.” —@realDonaldTrump just now.
    https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/s...05235193208834

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    ^ can you imagine the Republican reaction if Obama had said that....
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    The Christian right support Israel so that it can be destroyed in the end of days.

    Pastor Hagee’s Armageddon Politics

    For some apocalyptic Christians, the return of Jesus requires that Jews return to Israel (the ingathering or Aliyah), and rebuild the third Temple of Solomon on the hilltop Jews call the Temple Mount and Muslims call the Noble Sanctuary. Rebuilding the Temple of Solomon would violate the sanctity—and most likely destroy—the Islamic religious shrines now located on the hilltop. Some messianic Jews and apocalyptic Christians believe rebuilding the Temple of Solomon should take place anyway and this is a key (but not the only) factor in the growth of a movement called Christian Zionism.


    Apocalyptic, millennialist, and dispensationalist thinking has greatly influenced Pat Robertson and other Christian evangelical rightists including Jerry Falwell, John Hagee, and Joyce Meyer. This common worldview explains both their activist interest in U.S. foreign policy generally and their particular focus on the Middle East. The impact of such thinking is especially evident in their unqualified support for Israel and their Islamophobic opposition to Palestinian self-determination. The result of this politico-dual-religion amalgam is a movement called Christian Zionism, a source of Christian Right support for the U.S. wars against Afghanistan and Iraq and for a general U.S. presence in the Middle East. However, Christian Right support for Israel does not mean an unequivocal embrace of Jews. Anti-Jewish as well as anti-Islamic and anti-Arab themes have long formed a common stream running through Christian Right ideology and activism.


    Christian Right support for Israel comes in many forms, such as lobbying Congress and the administration to adopt pro-Israel policies, intervening in the foreign policy debate on the Palestine-Israel issue, and funding the migration of Eastern European Jews to Israel. The immigration funding is in keeping with a Christian evangelical/fundamentalist belief that the second coming of Christ is preceded by the Aliyah and the rebuilding of the third temple in Jerusalem. This is also why most Christian rightists oppose Palestinian statehood and the removal of Jewish settlements from the West Bank and Gaza Strip—because God promised all of the Biblical land of Canaan to the Israelites.


    A major display of the Christian Right’s support for Israel was the 2002 Road to Victory conference, organized by the Christian Coalition and quite unlike any previous Road to Victory conference.23 The keynote speaker was Ehud Olmert, then mayor of Jerusalem, who was invited to address the Solidarity with Israel rally. The galaxy of right-wing stars appearing at the conference either in person or through video included, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX), former chair of the foreign relations committee Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC), Lt. Col. Oliver North, Alan Keyes, former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, and former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pasto...eddon_b_103161


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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    Actually, he did more in the past 24 hours













    That makes a dozen

    Did we miss any?
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    There's a Horse In The Hospital | John Mulaney

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    This whole Greenland thing shows how deranged Trump is, and how little strategy there is to anything he does. All this episode has done is **** off one of the few European allies that supported the US in the Afghanistan since 2001 and in the Iraq war in 2003. If there was an actual strategy here, it would be diplomatically approaching the Danes about securing other bases outside of Thule, or expanding Thule, or joint patrols, or a whole bunch of other things. Instead, he floats a totally absurd idea that is outright offensive to the Danes and Greenlanders, and when the Danish PM has the gall to say that it's absurd, he throws a temper tantrum at the perceived insult and cancels a state visit whose invitation came directly from the Danish Monarch, which will further damage relations.

    What the hell is the strategy here, if not to weaken NATO and Europe further and make it clear that Russia and China are all too welcome to challenge the Western Alliance in the Arctic and elsewhere?

    And apparently, "unnamed sources" have already indicated that the main reason why this thing blew up the way it did is that Trump had 2 Euro-trips planned in September, and was all whiny about the amount of air travel, so he was looking for any excuse to cancel on the Danes. On top of that, he also probably knows that Obama will be there at the end of September, and is likely to receive a far more receptive response. Combine those 2 things and little Donny thinks it's better to anger an ally and undermine NATO further than to do his freaking job and/or be exposed as being incredibly unpopular in Denmark. It's insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    This whole Greenland thing shows how deranged Trump is, and how little strategy there is to anything he does.
    Ahhh...., I thought that Trump was deranged when I first read about him in a magazine article back in 1986.

    There are hundreds of things that show how deranged Trump is. This latest (well one of yesterday's laundry list) about Greenland is NOT a reason for impeachment.


    It IS a reason for Trump being carried out of the Oval Office in a straight jacket.
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    Sharing is important

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    Trump is a SNOWFLAKE.

    After Denmark's PM calls buying Greenland 'absurd,' Trump calls her comment 'nasty', cancels planned trip to Denmark to visit the Queen.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/denm...ry?id=65095389
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