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    Its a sad reflection on you, you're one of the biggest hypocrites here, and you seem caught up in a spirally world of misinformation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Its a sad reflection on you, you're one of the biggest hypocrites here, and you seem caught up in a spirally world of misinformation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Its a sad reflection on you, you're one of the biggest hypocrites here, and you seem caught up in a spirally world of misinformation.


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    Just in case he did, I bumped it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Nope, H.L. just is despondent that he missed the opportunity to play 'Devil's Triangle' (not the Kavanaugh drinking game version) with Trump and Stormy.
    Well, H.L. is a female (I think it was Hello Lady, or Horny Lady or something), so there wouldn't be any Devil's Triangle being played with Kavanaugh.

    As for Stormy, I believe she's transitioned into more porn directing than starring in it. I can't recall where I read that; I'm not up on the porn industry.

    I also find it odd that Trump would be making fun of the looks of someone he paid for sex. Why would you pay to have sex with someone you think has a "horse face"?
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    I’m not caught up in any sides bs. Politicians are basically all a bunch of liars, crooks, narcissists and a lot of other bad things. That’s why I love seeing someone upset tha apple cart so to speak. I’m also a realist seeing good and bad and not falling into the trump trap or the democratic trap, which seems awful right now as well. So the only thing to do take the best you can from the present government which is actually making some headway despite all the misgivings. But to fall into a side with any of these low life’s , not me. I am generally anti establishment is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    These are the people that Trump is defending.
    “When I do this job, I listen to music,” Tubaigy said on the recording.
    So obviously this isn't his first time.

    Jamal Khashoggi tortured with bone saw for 7 minutes while Saudi killer drowned out screams with music: Turkish source

    “The consul himself was taken out of the room,” the source told the website. “There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him.”


    The screaming stopped when Khashoggi was injected with an unknown substance.


    The head of forensic evidence in the Saudi general security department, Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, was among a 15-man squad who arrived in Turkey earlier that day by private jet.


    The source said Tubaigy started to cut up Khashoggi’s body on a table in the study while the journalist was still alive — and the killing took seven minutes.


    Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music as he dismembered Khashoggi’s body with a bone saw, and he advised other squad members to do the same.


    “When I do this job, I listen to music,” Tubaigy said on the recording. “You should do [that] too.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/jam...screams-music/
    Really strange behaviour if they didn’t expect anyone to ever hear about the killing.
    Khashoggi activated recording on his AppleWatch before entering the building. Apparently the kill team were unaware of this fact.

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    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.

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    Trump and his family needs the Saudi's money now that Russia has dried up. He'll do the least possible while talking big about what he's going to do without actually doing it.

    That's the pathology of his whole life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I’m not caught up in any sides bs. Politicians are basically all a bunch of liars, crooks, narcissists and a lot of other bad things. That’s why I love seeing someone upset tha apple cart so to speak. I’m also a realist seeing good and bad and not falling into the trump trap or the democratic trap, which seems awful right now as well. So the only thing to do take the best you can from the present government which is actually making some headway despite all the misgivings. But to fall into a side with any of these low life’s , not me. I am generally anti establishment is all.
    JT is a fake and a liar..his foundation has foreign money in it all the time..
    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/tr...ard-bombardier

    Bombardier received a $372.5-million loan package announced in February for Bombardier’s CSeries and Global 7000 aircraft programs. At which point the executives provided themselves with a wage increase of $10 million.( that must be the 1% he keeps banging on about)

    He's no better than Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.
    There you go again. Loose cannon. If the whole world would take action against them together it would be great to break their sorry asses...but even if we did all we possibly could they would just buy from the ruskies sell to China and others etc and laugh at us. Think about it before you fly off on a tangent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
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    Nope, H.L. just is despondent that he missed the opportunity to play 'Devil's Triangle' (not the Kavanaugh drinking game version) with Trump and Stormy.
    Well, H.L. is a female (I think it was Hello Lady, or Horny Lady or something), so there wouldn't be any Devil's Triangle being played with Kavanaugh.

    As for Stormy, I believe she's transitioned into more porn directing than starring in it. I can't recall where I read that; I'm not up on the porn industry.

    I also find it odd that Trump would be making fun of the looks of someone he paid for sex. Why would you pay to have sex with someone you think has a "horse face"?

    I posted this before, he wasn't interested in her face..

    Why would she have sex with someone whose junk she made fun of, oh right, she's a hooker $$$$$$$$
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    Gee, why would Trump feel he needs to defend the Saudis?

    A Saudi Prince Helped Save Trump From Bankruptcy Twice In A 4-Year Period

    In 1991, Donald J. Trump was a mid-tier real estate developer with $900 million in debt, a collapsing casino business, and a name perhaps best known for a headline-dominating split with his wife Ivana. With his empire at risk of falling apart, Trump was searching for cash everywhere; his father even illegally bought $3.35 million worth of casino chips and never gambled them, to help Trump make a massive bond payment a year earlier.


    A helpful burst of cash from a Saudi prince eased some tension with his creditors. Alwaleed bin Talal bought Trump’s yacht for somewhere between $18 million and $20 million (reports vary). It wasn’t a great bit of business for Trump—he had bought it from the Sultan of Brunei three years earlier for a reported $29 million.


    In 1995, Trump was still in deep trouble—and Alwaleed swooped in again. The prince, who calls himself the “Warren Buffett of Saudi Arabia,” took over Trump’s 51% stake in his beloved New York Plaza hotel. As a result, Trump’s creditors forgave $125 million of his debt.

    https://mavenroundtable.io/theintell...E6eqlu2FTHx1A/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
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    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.
    There you go again. Loose cannon. If the whole world would take action against them together it would be great to break their sorry asses...but even if we did all we possibly could they would just buy from the ruskies sell to China and others etc and laugh at us. Think about it before you fly off on a tangent.
    The whole world didn't come together against Germany and yet we still managed to not sell them arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Definitely is getting interesting now. As new evidence comes in trump may have no choice but to take action. I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with loss of contracts, job losses etc is the answer though. Just incriminate the actual killers and see them punished may be enough to appease the public.
    Yeah, forget about the people that actually ordered the killing. They're pure as the driven snow and we've got money to make. Might as well start selling arms to North Korea while we're at it. Or the chemicals to make Novichok. Sure, they'll go on killing people with it but we'll just look the other way and count our profits.

    You apparently would have had no problem doing business with Nazi Germany since Hitler himself never killed anyone in the concentration camps. Thee's no profiteer like a war profiteer.
    There you go again. Loose cannon. If the whole world would take action against them together it would be great to break their sorry asses...but even if we did all we possibly could they would just buy from the ruskies sell to China and others etc and laugh at us. Think about it before you fly off on a tangent.

    Yup, right again

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    The Saudis are no friends of the Russians who are allies with Iran. And switching to another arms supplier would mean that their current planes, etc. would be totally unusable once parts ran out.

    But go ahead, just shrug your shoulders and say "Sure they're murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs but they're OUR murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    The Saudis are no friends of the Russians who are allies with Iran. And switching to another arms supplier would mean that their current planes, etc. would be totally unusable once parts ran out.

    But go ahead, just shrug your shoulders and say "Sure they're murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs but they're OUR murderous, autocratic, terror sponsoring maniacs!"
    Yeah, the middle east seems to be a rough neighbourhood and the choices seem to be between bad, bad and worse. The Saudi's have never been much for human rights too, but I think carrying out such an operation in another country like Turkey crosses a line, not to mention that mess of a war they started and are prolonging in Yemen, the conflict with Quatar and lest we forget the kidnapping of the leader of Lebanon - all within the last year or so.

    The Saudi's have been causing a lot of unnecessary trouble lately and rather than stabilizing the region as in the past, they are now destabilizing it. They need to be reined in.

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    And some people think that Trump is the one to do that. Sure he will. As soon as Hell freezes over. He makes a lot of money off the Saudis. No way he's going to put his personal wealth in jeopardy.

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    Meanwhile, more "fine people" on the Trump side.

    ‘We will kill you’: Viral video appears to show Proud Boys founder calling for Trump supporters to commit violence

    McInnes is known as the co-founder of VICE Media, and now has a talk show on CRTV. He is also a Fox News guest.


    Here are a few excerpts:


    “Like Bill the Butcher and the Bowery Boys, we will assassinate you.”


    “If you’re wearing a MAGA hat and some guy with a slightly punk demeanor says, ‘Hey, are you … pro-Trump?’ choke him. Trust your instincts.”


    “Don’t listen to what he has to say, choke him.”


    “Can you call for violence generally? ‘Cause I am.”


    “Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people.”


    “Trump supporters: Choke a motherfucker. Choke a *****. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe.” (Better clip of this statement here.)


    “Get a ******* gun.”


    “Get ready to blow someone’s ******* head off.”


    “Get in trouble. Get arrested. Get fired. They can’t kill us all.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/wil...mmit-violence/

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    So WTH are we going there? Why are we supplying them with Lavs, the previous government set this up, why did JT decide to keep supplying Saudi. Could it be the 3000 jobs??..no. He's all about human rights..lying boyscout

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    He absolutely, 100% should have cancelled it. And the Conservatives should have never helped set it up.

    However, our contribution to the Saudi military, as wrong as it is, pales almost into insignificance next to the American arms trade with them. And Trump has come right out and said that he won't cancel any part of an arms deal, regardless of what they do. The Saudis have bombed hospitals, civilians, school buses loaded with children. None of that matters because there's money to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    He absolutely, 100% should have cancelled it. And the Conservatives should have never helped set it up.

    However, our contribution to the Saudi military, as wrong as it is, pales almost into insignificance next to the American arms trade with them. And Trump has come right out and said that he won't cancel any part of an arms deal, regardless of what they do. The Saudis have bombed hospitals, civilians, school buses loaded with children. None of that matters because there's money to be made.
    America is a far bigger country than ours though, lets see if jT cancels it in 2019..I'm betting he doesn't..

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    And I see that you're no longer blocking me. Interesting.

    You oppose Trudeau because he doesn't cancel it but support Trump for the same reason. "America's a far bigger country". Does that mean that they get a pass on arms deals? Because their deals are so much more lucrative, they should continue to supply repressive regimes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    And I see that you're no longer blocking me. Interesting.

    You oppose Trudeau because he doesn't cancel it but support Trump for the same reason. "America's a far bigger country". Does that mean that they get a pass on arms deals? Because their deals are so much more lucrative, they should continue to supply repressive regimes?
    Oh you're blocked, now and then I see if you're making sense..it's funny you noticed so quickly, interesting..

    JT has talked his face off about Human rights in Saudi, Trump has not. JT has talked his face off about women's rights and the fact he's a feminist, Trump has not. So in my eyes, JT is a hypocritical twat.
    If Clinton/Bush/Obama didnt cancel the arms deal, why in heck do you think Trump will/would?
    I'm asking, seriously, why would he.Saudi has always done terrible , unspeakable things..this is not new for them. The 9/11 terrorists came from there, why didn't Bush, followed by Obama do anything

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    Seeing as you made a point of posting that you blocked me, yeah, I noticed.

    Good question. Of course, the Saudis have gotten much worse under Trump. The Americans could usually keep the Saudis restrained, at least outside their own borders. Now, he's encouraging them to attack civilians in Yemen and, with the killing in Turkey, go after people that oppose them internationally.

    But, as Trump says, “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump told a crowd at an Alabama rally on Aug. 21, 2015, “Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

    Not only is he supporting them as president, he's profiting from them personally.

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    Probably just a coincidence...

    Saudi Arabia transfers $100 million to U.S. amid crisis over Khashoggi

    https://outline.com/wXfyAr
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    Did they buy some more Trump condos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    […] JT is a hypocritical twat. […]
    "Well then, this would be [a coincidence], wouldn't it?" - Ernie Capadino

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Seeing as you made a point of posting that you blocked me, yeah, I noticed.

    Good question. Of course, the Saudis have gotten much worse under Trump. The Americans could usually keep the Saudis restrained, at least outside their own borders. Now, he's encouraging them to attack civilians in Yemen and, with the killing in Turkey, go after people that oppose them internationally.

    But, as Trump says, “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump told a crowd at an Alabama rally on Aug. 21, 2015, “Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

    Not only is he supporting them as president, he's profiting from them personally.
    Do you have a link, where Trump is encouraging them to attack civilians in Yemen? Tia..
    Yes he's profiting personally, I don't like that. You know what else I don't like, seeing as I'm drawing comparisons, how much JTs foundation has gone up, especially with foreign money..just saying

    I wish Canada didn't purchase Saudi oil, are you okay with that?
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    Nope. But the reason is that Alberta demanded that we get world price for oil instead of the made in Canada price that was in the NEP. So we really can't complain when someone gets refinery ready oil from somewhere else. If we did the upgrading here and used Energy East to ship it to the rest of the country, there would not have been as much opposition to the pipeline when it was intended as an export pipeline.

    Do you have a link for news on Trudeau's foundation? Not a blog. An actual news site?

    And as you're drawing comparisons, how about the Trump foundation? Shut down and under criminal investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Meanwhile, more "fine people" on the Trump side.

    ‘We will kill you’: Viral video appears to show Proud Boys founder calling for Trump supporters to commit violence

    McInnes is known as the co-founder of VICE Media, and now has a talk show on CRTV. He is also a Fox News guest.


    Here are a few excerpts:


    “Like Bill the Butcher and the Bowery Boys, we will assassinate you.”


    “If you’re wearing a MAGA hat and some guy with a slightly punk demeanor says, ‘Hey, are you … pro-Trump?’ choke him. Trust your instincts.”


    “Don’t listen to what he has to say, choke him.”


    “Can you call for violence generally? ‘Cause I am.”


    “Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people.”


    “Trump supporters: Choke a motherfucker. Choke a *****. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe.” (Better clip of this statement here.)


    “Get a ******* gun.”


    “Get ready to blow someone’s ******* head off.”


    “Get in trouble. Get arrested. Get fired. They can’t kill us all.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/wil...mmit-violence/
    You left out this:


    “To be clear, McInnes appears to make some, but possibly not all, of the statements below. It is unclear, due to the video’s editing, if McInnes or someone else is making some of the statements. The video was posted to Twitter by Vic Berger, whose website says he is a video editor. (NCRM has reached out to Berger for clarification.)”


    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/wil...mmit-violence/

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    Hence the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Nope. But the reason is that Alberta demanded that we get world price for oil instead of the made in Canada price that was in the NEP. So we really can't complain when someone gets refinery ready oil from somewhere else. If we did the upgrading here and used Energy East to ship it to the rest of the country, there would not have been as much opposition to the pipeline when it was intended as an export pipeline.

    Do you have a link for news on Trudeau's foundation? Not a blog. An actual news site?

    And as you're drawing comparisons, how about the Trump foundation? Shut down and under criminal investigation.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle33014375/


    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/do...increased-10x/

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    Yes, it's very sad that your good friends the Saudis tortured, killed and dismembered someone. I'm sure you're really broken up about it, especially since he worked for the Washington Post.

    Trump says it ‘certainly looks’ like journalist Jamal Khashoggi is dead

    “It certainly looks that way to me,” Trump told reporters at Andrews Air Force Base when asked if Khashoggi was dead. “It’s very sad.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/tru...hashoggi-dead/

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    Well Trump says he knows more about science than climate change scientists.

    He says he knows more about the military than his Generals.

    He says he knows more about business than anyone.

    He says he know more about international issues that the diplomats.

    But one this we all agree on is that he knows more about bullshi* than any farmer...
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    Jared Kushner reportedly wants Trump to back Saudi crown prince
    Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has withstood criticism in the past.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/10/18/17996320/saudi-arabia-khashoggi-kushner-trump-nyt


    Jared Kushner reportedly told President Donald Trump to back Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman — despite mounting evidence that the royal was involved in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi two weeks ago.


    Kushner’s reasoning? The royal, also known as MBS, has withstood past criticism. Indeed, despite masterminding Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen and kidnapping Lebanon’s prime minister, MBS remains the de facto leader of his country and has strong ties with foreign leaders.


    That tidbit came in a Thursday New York Times report, which also notes that Riyadh plans to blame a Saudi intelligence official — Gen. Ahmed al-Assiri, who is close to the crown prince — for Khashoggi’s murder.


    As of now, it’s still unclear what, exactly, happened to the Saudi journalist or who is responsible. But some reports indicate that Khashoggi was beaten, killed, and posthumously dismembered inside Istanbul’s Saudi Consulate on October 2. Turkish authorities are searching for his remains in wooded areas outside of Istanbul.


    Trump told reporters on Thursday afternoon that it “certainly looks” like Khashoggi is dead, and vowed “severe” consequences if Saudi royals were behind the possible killing.


    Kushner has cultivated a personal relationship with MBS while serving as senior White House adviser for Middle East affairs. He and the crown prince even text on WhatsApp, an encrypted messaging app. Because of his close ties to the Saudi royal, Kushner has purposely stayed out of the spotlight during the scandal.
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    Meanwhile as Trump waffles about the torture and killing of a journalist by the Saudis, he supports a convicted Republican who attacked a reporter. A guy who was proven guilty of a crime against the media, Trump supports and helps him to be elected. Trump's supporters laugh and cheer Trump on... Deplorable

    Trump Calls Montana Politician Who Attacked a Reporter ‘My Kind of Guy’
    https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment...a-13319661.php
    Donald Trump praised the Montana congressman who attacked a reporter in 2017 as “my kind of guy” at a rally on Thursday.


    “By the way, never wrestle him,” Trump said of Montana Republican Greg Gianforte. “You understand that? Never. Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy. He’s my guy.” Trump also mimed a body slam, to loud cheers and laughter from the audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump told reporters on Thursday afternoon that it “certainly looks” like Khashoggi is dead, and vowed “severe” consequences if Saudi royals were behind the possible killing.
    Sounds like they're off the official White House Christmas card list.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Meanwhile as Trump waffles about the torture and killing of a journalist by the Saudis, he supports a convicted Republican who attacked a reporter. A guy who was proven guilty of a crime against the media, Trump supports and helps him to be elected. Trump's supporters laugh and cheer Trump on... Deplorable

    Trump Calls Montana Politician Who Attacked a Reporter ‘My Kind of Guy’
    https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment...a-13319661.php
    Donald Trump praised the Montana congressman who attacked a reporter in 2017 as “my kind of guy” at a rally on Thursday.


    “By the way, never wrestle him,” Trump said of Montana Republican Greg Gianforte. “You understand that? Never. Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy. He’s my guy.” Trump also mimed a body slam, to loud cheers and laughter from the audience.

    Trump mimicking the (alleged) wrestling bodyslam was really funny!

    Journalists always exaggerate. That incident was overblown and nobody got hurt. People need to lighten up.

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    The Canadian journalists have been attacking Trump like crazy for being soft on the Khashoggi murder to protect US arms deals, but have any Canadian journalists held Trudeau accountable for doing the exact same thing?

    I am seeing lots of one, and none of the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Meanwhile as Trump waffles about the torture and killing of a journalist by the Saudis, he supports a convicted Republican who attacked a reporter. A guy who was proven guilty of a crime against the media, Trump supports and helps him to be elected. Trump's supporters laugh and cheer Trump on... Deplorable

    Trump Calls Montana Politician Who Attacked a Reporter ‘My Kind of Guy’
    https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment...a-13319661.php
    Donald Trump praised the Montana congressman who attacked a reporter in 2017 as “my kind of guy” at a rally on Thursday.


    “By the way, never wrestle him,” Trump said of Montana Republican Greg Gianforte. “You understand that? Never. Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy. He’s my guy.” Trump also mimed a body slam, to loud cheers and laughter from the audience.

    Trump mimicking the (alleged) wrestling bodyslam was really funny!

    Journalists always exaggerate. That incident was overblown and nobody got hurt. People need to lighten up.

    So if I come over to your house and body slam you to the ground, you are OK with that?

    I'll be over on Saturday. It will be 'spectacular, yuge!'
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    Ha ha - that's funny. Although I HIGHLY doubt you could.

    Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The Canadian journalists have been attacking Trump like crazy for being soft on the Khashoggi murder to protect US arms deals, but have any Canadian journalists held Trudeau accountable for doing the exact same thing?

    I am seeing lots of one, and none of the other.
    Ya but Trudeau is a Liberal, that’s different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The Canadian journalists have been attacking Trump like crazy for being soft on the Khashoggi murder to protect US arms deals, but have any Canadian journalists held Trudeau accountable for doing the exact same thing?

    I am seeing lots of one, and none of the other.
    Ya but Trudeau is a Liberal, that’s different.
    Zing!

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    I wasn't aware that Trudeau was defending the Saudis for killing a journalist. The Conservatives are the ones that blew a gasket when the Trudeau government condemned the Saudis human rights record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    I wasn't aware that Trudeau was defending the Saudis for killing a journalist. The Conservatives are the ones that blew a gasket when the Trudeau government condemned the Saudis human rights record.
    Zing! The TRUTH prevails.

    I like how Hello Lady, Mr.AltReich and Dumbones all parrot like Russian Trolls, pointing fingers at others when their right wing extremist views are without factual basis and easily debunked. These three stooges should join up with Mr.Combusted as they would make a fine quorum of purveyors of fake news and garbage reasoning.

    Trudeau mum on Saudi dispute apology, says Canada will speak out ‘wherever we see the need’
    Aug 8th 2018
    https://globalnews.ca/news/4377040/c...udeau-apology/
    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Wednesday that Canada will continue to stand up for human rights. This was in response to the recent spat with Saudi Arabia after Canada criticized their arrest of women's rights and human rights activists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The Canadian journalists have been attacking Trump like crazy for being soft on the Khashoggi murder to protect US arms deals, but have any Canadian journalists held Trudeau accountable for doing the exact same thing?

    I am seeing lots of one, and none of the other.
    Ya but Trudeau is a Liberal, that’s different.

    I posted in that idiots thread..

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    I see a bunch of the typical white noise form the extremist mob on the left, but I still do not see examples of Canadian journalists holding Trudeau accountable for being soft on the Khashoggi murder to protect arms deals with the Saudis with anywhere near the same fervor they attack Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    I wasn't aware that Trudeau was defending the Saudis for killing a journalist.
    That's not what anyone said.

    You're having a really hard time understanding what's going on lately.

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    But Trump says that it's fine for Saudi Arabia to murder people because there's money to be made.

    Branson walks away from £1bn Saudi train deal over disappearance of journalist
    VIRGIN boss Richard Branson has pulled his Hyperloop One futuristic train company out of £1bn a deal with Saudi Arabia over the disappearance of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

    The Wall Street Journal, citing a Turkish official who has heard the recording, said Mr Khashoggi was allegedly killed and dismembered in the office of the Saudi consul general, Mohammad al-Otaibi, who was in the room at the time. A voice on the recording can be heard inviting him to leave.


    The recording is also understood to include audio of Saudi military forensics official Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy putting on headphones to listen to music as he begins to dismember the body and encourages other people in the room to do the same.


    According to Middle East Eye, Khashoggi was dragged from the office to Mr al-Otaibi’s study next door, where Mr al-Tubaigy began cutting up his body on a table while he was still alive.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...8jKXjDrUbDtGws


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I see a bunch of the typical white noise form the extremist mob on the left, but I still do not see examples of Canadian journalists holding Trudeau accountable for being soft on the Khashoggi murder to protect arms deals with the Saudis with anywhere near the same fervor they attack Trump.
    Extremist mob??? Where do you get that talking point? Right out of Trump's great gaping hole?
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    I get it from personal experience from posting here.

    The only people on this forum who call me names are the far-left mob.

    The only people on this forum trying to find out where I work and live are the far-left mob.

    The only people trying to ban me for posting things that challenge their opinions are the far-left mob.

    The only people that derail this entire thread so they can all take turns to pile on personal insults after I post something that opposes their opinion is the far-left mob.

    I guarantee you that if this was in public (and not online), I would be physically and violently assaulted for my words by the far-left mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I get it from personal experience from posting here.

    The only people on this forum who call me names are the far-left mob.

    The only people on this forum trying to find out where I work and live are the far-left mob.

    The only people trying to ban me for posting things that challenge their opinions are the far-left mob.

    The only people that derail this entire thread so they can all take turns to pile on personal insults after I post something that opposes their opinion is the far-left mob.

    I guarantee you that if this was in public (and not online), I would be physically and violently assaulted for my words by the far-left mob.
    Strange. What do you mean:

    “trying to find out where I work and live...”

    I can see people asking questions about personal details (no harm asking and it helps understand and clarify viewpoints, context, etc. Probably some wackos do so in looking for recruiting to their wannabe ideological gangs.) Additionally people read through old postings and try to put together some sort of composite on a person or their views or background.*) However, if a poster has an anonymous username no one would expect an answer. So when you say someone is trying to find out something about you. What do you mean by that? Do you mean that they asked you were you live and work?


    BTW - I don’t think I’ll ever really understand what this “far-left” or “far-right” business is all about. No one ever really dares define them when asked. To me it all just seems to be fuzzy thinking on their part. Like “good” people and “bad” people.



    * It’s as near to a guarantee that one can get, that whatever you say or do online, WILL be used against you. The corollary being that NO ONE will use what you say or do online, IN FAVOUR OF or FOR you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The Canadian journalists have been attacking Trump like crazy for being soft on the Khashoggi murder to protect US arms deals, but have any Canadian journalists held Trudeau accountable for doing the exact same thing?

    I am seeing lots of one, and none of the other.
    Ya but Trudeau is a Liberal, that’s different.

    I posted in that idiots thread..
    I thought Trudeau came under all kinds of criticism for signing the Saudi arms deal a couple years ago? Am I wrong?


    And then just a few months back there was this stuff:


    Freeland's 'Trump-style tweet' to Saudis damaging to Canada: Baird - BNN Bloomberg

    ”What’s really needed is the prime minister to get on a plane and get over to Riyadh and try to resolve this issue,” said Baird, now senior advisor with Bennett Jones. “That’s in the interests of Canada and Canadian workers and the Canadian people.”




    Baird added Canada should treat Saudi Arabia like an ally, especially in light of London, Ont.-based General Dynamics Land Systems’ $15-billion contract to supply military vehicles to the kingdom. The deal with Saudi Arabia was struck by former prime minister Stephen Harper in 2014.




    “I don’t think they’ve handled this issue well,” Baird said. “When you sign a $15-billion arms deal, [Saudi Arabia] sort of expect a thank you, especially from the 3,000 jobs that are really at risk in London, Ont. We should be standing beside a friend and ally like Saudi Arabia.”




    Baird also added that geopolitical strategy should be considered in keeping the Saudis happy.”




    “We share the same interests as the Saudis, but we disagree on some values,” Baird said. “But there’s no doubt that the Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is taking the country in the right direction, pursuing a more moderate form of Islam, reducing funding to Wahhabi proselytization around the world, but also making major reforms on human rights and women’s rights.”


    http://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/freeland-...aird-1.1120883






    Canada owes no apology to the Saudis - The Globe and Mail
    OPINION
    Canada owes no apology to the Saudis

    PAUL HEINBECKER
    SPECIAL TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
    PUBLISHED AUGUST 17, 2018
    UPDATED AUGUST 20, 2018

    Paul Heinbecker is a former Canadian ambassador to the United Nations and a distinguished fellow at the Centre of International Governance Innovation.

    Urging Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to jump on a plane to Riyadh to apologize for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland’s tweet on Saudi human rights abuses is bad advice. Suggesting that we should seek U.S. President Donald Trump’s intervention with the Saudis is no better. And portraying Saudi Arabia as a friend and ally is preposterous.

    Apologists for the Saudis need to give their heads a shake. Saudi Arabian authorities continue to subject peaceful dissidents to arbitrary arrests, trials and convictions. Human rights defenders are imprisoned and tortured into confessing.

    ...”


    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...to-the-saudis/



    Canada still selling armoured vehicles to Saudis despite ‘concern’ of missing journalist: Trudeau - National | Globalnews.ca

    WATCH: Trudeau defends Saudi arms deal despite poor human rights record

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4541383/j...ng-journalist/
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    Yeah, one 60 year old man vs 15 intelligence operatives get into a fist fight. And then the 60 year old is dismembered. This after the Saudis claimed that 1) He actually left the consulate. 2) They had nothing to do with it. 3) Trump's suggestion of "rogue elements" didn't fly.

    After denials, Saudis admit journalist Khashoggi died in consulate

    Saudi Arabia said on Saturday that dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi has died, and said it fired two senior officials over the incident that has provoked an international outcry and strained relations between Riyadh and the West.

    A statement from the Saudi public prosecutor said a fight broke out between Khashoggi and people who met him in the consulate and led to his death.

    ---

    Turkish officials had said they believed he was killed in the building. Saudi Arabia had previously denied the allegations and said Khashoggi had left the building shortly after.


    King Salman also ordered the formation of a ministerial committee headed by the crown prince to restructure the general intelligence agency, state media said.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/khasho...late-1.4871187
    And Trump's response? Predictable.

    "Saudi Arabia has been a great ally, they've been a tremendous investor in the United States," Trump said, adding, "That's why this is so sad."


    "They agreed to spend $450 billion on buying in and investing in the United States, so I hope we can keep that open… There are plenty of other things we can do," he said, adding, "I might know a lot by Monday. I know a lot already."
    Considering that there's no way that this was carried out without the orders or knowledge of the crown prince would make this laughable if it weren't so tragic.

    In a related note, Trump announces that Sarah Huckabee-Sanders will travel to Saudi Arabia to teach them how to lie better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I get it from personal experience from posting here.

    The only people on this forum who call me names are the far-left mob.

    The only people on this forum trying to find out where I work and live are the far-left mob.

    The only people trying to ban me for posting things that challenge their opinions are the far-left mob.

    The only people that derail this entire thread so they can all take turns to pile on personal insults after I post something that opposes their opinion is the far-left mob.

    I guarantee you that if this was in public (and not online), I would be physically and violently assaulted for my words by the far-left mob.
    Oh, you are such a victim. Boo Hoo!

    As if you are so innocent. You provoke people with your mindless Trump rhetoric and expect us to eat your garbage posts. Can you show us a single example of where someone has threatened to 'physically and violently assaulted' you on this forum???

    If it was this exchange below, between you and me, then the hyperbole and irony of your statement is clearly self evident:

    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Meanwhile as Trump waffles about the torture and killing of a journalist by the Saudis, he supports a convicted Republican who attacked a reporter. A guy who was proven guilty of a crime against the media, Trump supports and helps him to be elected. Trump's supporters laugh and cheer Trump on... Deplorable


    Trump Calls Montana Politician Who Attacked a Reporter ‘My Kind of Guy’
    https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment...a-13319661.php
    Donald Trump praised the Montana congressman who attacked a reporter in 2017 as “my kind of guy” at a rally on Thursday.


    “By the way, never wrestle him,” Trump said of Montana Republican Greg Gianforte. “You understand that? Never. Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy. He’s my guy.” Trump also mimed a body slam, to loud cheers and laughter from the audience.

    Trump mimicking the (alleged) wrestling bodyslam was really funny!


    Journalists always exaggerate. That incident was overblown and nobody got hurt. People need to lighten up.

    So if I come over to your house and body slam you to the ground, you are OK with that?


    I'll be over on Saturday. It will be 'spectacular, yuge!'

    You think it was funny for an elected Montana Politician to physically attack a reporter and a President who praises the clearly criminal activity is deplorable and you laugh at it just like the crowds of idiots at the rally. When I turned the tables and try to get you to think about the repercussions of your statement you play the victim card and nobody believes your crying wolf. If you think that it is me who is threatening you, you certainly don't understand irony or measure your words and opinions in support of attacking reporters. If you think I would ever carry out such violence, it is truly overestimating that I know who you are, where you live or where you work. I don't ever want to know you, see you or meet you, EVER. I know nothing about you other than your stupid and insipid thoughts that you post. Take it up with Admin if you truly believe that me or anyone has threatened you with 'physical and violent assault' or better yet, call the police and have that person arrested. Otherwise think before you type.

    I am not part of your extreme left mob that you prescribe and parrot from Trump. I am not even left. If anything I am conservative with a social responsibility core and a moral compass based upon ethics and a Christian worldview. I would call me a centrist and to the right. I do not belief all your crap of labing all who disagree with you as a leftist mob. You ascribe to tribalism and your statements that supported or failure to rebuke the extreme right wing provocateurs in Charlottesville and instead, suggesting that the counter protestors were at fault is where your true colors were in full view to all on this forum is where you rightfully were labeled MrAltReich.

    In your case, you reap what you sow. You have extreme right wing beliefs and act as Trump's apologist. You believe anything he says even after we prove that he lies with numerous sourced materials. You ignore them and then repeat the same lies endlessly. You provoke people with your core bias and unadulterated bigotry. You never apologise for your stance and staunchly endeavor to try to convince us that Trump's mantra is right and get upset when we challenge you. Then you call people lefty liberal mobs and other perversions from your perch on the Trump Snake Oil crates upon which you preach.

    When we kick the crates out from under you, you cry like a baby.
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    If it was no big deal, why did Greg Gianforte plead guilty and agree to undergo community service, anger management therapy and pay a fine? Yeah, nothing to see here.

    BTW, Giaforte doesn't agree with you or Trump. He apologized and donated $50,000 to the Committee to Protect Journalists, an organization that promotes press freedom.

    From his apology letter to Ben Jacobs:

    "My physical response to your legitimate question was unprofessional, unacceptable, and unlawful. As both a candidate for Office and a public official, I should be held to a high standard in my interactions with the press and the public. My treatment of you did not meet that standard."
    "I made a mistake and humbly ask for your forgiveness,"

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/polit...ter/index.html
    And Jacobs response to Trump.

    Journalist assaulted by GOP congressman unloads on Trump for praising ‘cowardly’ Republican at Montana rally

    Jacobs added that he wasn’t surprised by Trump’s comments after having reported on his presidential candidacy.


    Cooper noted that in spite of Trump lauding Gianforte as a “tough cookie,” the congressman initially lied about the assault and mislead police and reporters.


    “He lied about me until he realized there [were] audio and eyewitnesses,” Jacobs said. “That was not the actions of a ‘tough cookie.’ A ‘tough cookie’ doesn’t attack someone out of nowhere, without provocation, for asking a question about healthcare policy.”


    The reporter then revealed that police asked him afterward if there was anything about the Congressional Budget Office (whose score on the healthcare bill Jacobs brought up to Gianforte just prior to the assault) that may have “set him off.”


    “That’s not the action of a ‘tough cookie,'” Jacobs said. “That’s the action of a coward.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/jou...montana-rally/
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    “That’s not the action of a ‘tough cookie,'” Jacobs said. “That’s the action of a coward.”

    And he initially lied about it and said it did not happen. Straight out of Trump's playbook and many of his followers like Kavanaugh, Moore, Flynn, Cohen and Manafort. At least Gianforte manned up and apologies and promises to be a better person. Gianforte I can respect going forward. Trump and his supporters are still swamp dwellers and liars that have to admit they have problems before the nation can heal and forgive them.
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    No reporter should be hurt while doing his job. Trump is tone deaf sometimes..it's terrible timing to even mention this given what happened to that poor guy in Saudi. Why is this Prince such an @ss..I know these things go on there, he just seems extremely violent

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    Because he's rich? Because, unlike previous presidents, Trump has no intention of reeling them in? Because he knows he can get away with it and Trump will provide cover? All he has to do is tell Trump "Iran is bad" and he's got carte blanch? Because Trump is willing to forgive anything as long as there's money to be made or his ego gets fed?

    What's the sad part of this story? The fact that a human being was tortured and then dismembered while still alive? Not according to The Donald.


    ""Saudi Arabia has been a great ally, they've been a tremendous investor in the United States," Trump said, adding, "That's why this is so sad."


    "They agreed to spend $450 billion on buying in and investing in the United States, so I hope we can keep that open… There are plenty of other things we can do," he said, adding, "I might know a lot by Monday. I know a lot already.""

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/khasho...late-1.4871187
    Yeah, a person died in a horrible and gruesome way but think of the money we could make!

    But at least the war in Yemen is going well, at least for the Saudis and the US arms suppliers. The blockade of Hodeidah is going particularly well.

    Twelve million face famine in Yemen if bombs don't stop, WFP warns

    The number of people facing starvation in Yemen could rise to nearly 12 million as conflict intensifies around the port of Hodeidah, a vital aid delivery link, the World Food Programme told CNN Monday.


    A collapsing currency and deteriorating economic situation in the Middle East's poorest country are also aggravating the situation, the UN agency said.


    The WFP said 18 million people in Yemen already do not know where their next meal is coming from and eight million of those are "considered on the brink of famine."


    "Since June, some 570,000 people have had to flee their homes from fighting in Hodeidah, while the Yemeni riyal has undergone an alarming depreciation, and the cost of basic food items has gone up by a third since this time last year," WFP Yemen country director Stephen Anderson told CNN.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/middl...war/index.html
    And

    Bomb that killed 40 children in Yemen was supplied by the US

    The bomb used by the Saudi-led coalition in a devastating attack on a school bus in Yemen was sold as part of a US State Department-sanctioned arms deal with Saudi Arabia, munitions experts told CNN.


    Working with local Yemeni journalists and munitions experts, CNN has established that the weapon that left dozens of children dead on August 9 was a 500-pound (227 kilogram) laser-guided MK 82 bomb made by Lockheed Martin, one of the top US defense contractors.


    The bomb is very similar to the one that wreaked devastation in an attack on a funeral hall in Yemen in October 2016 in which 155 people were killed and hundreds more wounded. The Saudi coalition blamed "incorrect information" for that strike, admitted it was a mistake and took responsibility.


    In March of that year, a strike on a Yemeni market -- this time reportedly by a US-supplied precision-guided MK 84 bomb -- killed 97 people.


    In the aftermath of the funeral hall attack, former US President Barack Obama banned the sale of precision-guided military technology to Saudi Arabia over "human rights concerns."


    The ban was overturned by the Trump administration's then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in March 2017.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/middl...ntl/index.html
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    The two pictures that says it all



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    Judge rules against Trump in major Emoluments clause lawsuit
    President Donald Trump has a big constitutional problem that won’t go away
    https://www.salon.com/2018/10/02/bad...r-win_partner/

    According to a report in the Washington Post, federal district court judge Emmet G. Sullivan ruled that a lawsuit filed against the president by 200 congressional Democrats, alleging he is in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the constitution, can proceed:

    The lawsuit is based on the Constitution’s emoluments clause, which bars presidents from taking payments from foreign states. Trump’s business, which he still owns, has hosted foreign embassy events and visiting foreign officials at its downtown D.C. hotel.

    The decision opens up yet another legal front for the president, who is now facing an array of inquiries into his business, his campaign and his charity.


    Trump is already facing a separate emoluments suit filed by the attorneys general of Washington, D.C. and Maryland that is moving forward. In addition, he is contending with the ongoing special counsel investigation into Russian interference, a lawsuit from the New York Attorney General that alleged "persistently illegal conduct" at his charitable foundation and a defamation lawsuit brought by former "Apprentice" contestant Summer Zervos.
    In his opinion, Sullivan, an appointee of President Bill Clinton, held that the lawsuit was valid because there was no way for the members of Congress who are party to it to address the dispute through other means, such as legislation.


    Trump previously said he would divest from all of his businesses if elected president, a promise he went back on even before he was sworn in. Since then, Trump and members of his inner circle have shown no qualms about using the presidency for the profit of Trump businesses and properties, from touting his country club on the State Department website to charging the Secret Service to rent his golf carts.


    But a violation of the Emoluments Clause, a prohibition set forth by the Constitution, could potentially be a bigger deal. Indeed, Congressional Republicans have privately listed Emoluments Clause violations among the things they fear Democrats will investigate if they manage to win back the House of Representatives this year.
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    For those keeping count.

    The latest Saudi excuse shows that Donald Trump will swallow any line Mohammed bin Salman gives him

    Official Saudi responses to the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi inside the Saudi consulate


    1.0 Khashoggi left the consulate only a few minutes after entering.
    1.1 Through a back door.


    2.0 We don’t know what happened to Khashoggi. It’s a mystery to us.
    2.1 Those guys in the airport were just tourists.


    3.0 Rogue killers.
    3.1 That’s all. Just rogue killers.


    4.0 He may have accidentally been killed while being “questioned.”
    4.1 Which could have involved questioning why he needs fingers.


    5.0 He got into a scuffle during a “discussion” at the consulate.
    5.1 With 15 intelligence operatives half his age.
    5.2 Who just happened to be there.
    5.3 Whoops. Go to excuse 4.0.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...lman-gives-him

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    PRT I think you’re out of line calling me an alt right Russian troll. I’m neither left nor right. I consider myself somewhere in the middle. I voted for Justin Trudeau. You must admit it would be dam stupid giving up to 300B of manufacturing and jobs over the death of one arab. It’s stupid. You are about the dumbest fuqer I’ve ever run across with kk a close second. lol. I mean trump is a jerk and whatever else but you guys are so far gone in your way of thinking it’s unbelievable. If you two ran for office North America would be bankrupt in a month, all in the name of the unicorn and it’s rainbows. I’d like to see you guys get real just a bit once in a while. Thousands of people are murdered around the world each day for various reasons, and life goes on. The guy was a fool and paid the price. I’m not condoning it, it’s awful, but it’s also a part of the world where they have different ways than we do here. Some people need to be punished for it but punishing ourselves economically is foolish. People get their heads cut off daily over there and we are not going to change their way of life.

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    How about a picture of George bush walking hand in hand with Saudi king across his Texas ranch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    The two pictures that says it all



    Hey Jared Kushner and his wife Ivanka are Jewish. Looks like a breakthrough!

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    That sadistic prince from Saudi, has been photographed grinning with the queen, Macron and many other leaders etc.
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    Is it a fair fistfight when you are missing all your fingers on one hand and they just sawn off your other arm?

    The problem stems from Trumps that embolden dictators to commit heinous acts with impunity with a feckless and self-absorbed President who does nothing to repremand them. He is gutless and has zero morality. He only thinks about himself and his wealth today, not what will happen tomorrow and the events that will play out due to his statements.
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    Why won't Turkey release what they have???

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    Does the RCMP release their evidence before a trial? No is your answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    You must admit it would be dam stupid giving up to 300B of manufacturing and jobs over the death of one arab. It’s stupid.
    OK. how many Arabs would it take for you to cancel 300B (Trump has claimed 100B and the total actually agreed to is less than 1/10th of that) worth of weapons? 100? 1,000? A million?

    How about Jews? Is a Jew worth more or less than an Arab in your world?

    How about the 12 million in Yemen that are facing starvation because the Saudis have blockaded the port and aren't allowing food into the country? Is 12 million enough? Or are they not the right race?

    It would have been interesting to see where you stood in World War II. Would you have been opposed to Canada entering the war, instead wanting to sell arms and raw materials to Germany?

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    How many Arabs have to die, so JT cancels our deal. 3000 jobs would disappear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    PRT I think you’re out of line calling me an alt right Russian troll. I’m neither left nor right. I consider myself somewhere in the middle. I voted for Justin Trudeau. You must admit it would be dam stupid giving up to 300B of manufacturing and jobs over the death of one arab. It’s stupid. You are about the dumbest fuqer I’ve ever run across with kk a close second. lol. I mean trump is a jerk and whatever else but you guys are so far gone in your way of thinking it’s unbelievable. If you two ran for office North America would be bankrupt in a month, all in the name of the unicorn and it’s rainbows. I’d like to see you guys get real just a bit once in a while. Thousands of people are murdered around the world each day for various reasons, and life goes on. The guy was a fool and paid the price. I’m not condoning it, it’s awful, but it’s also a part of the world where they have different ways than we do here. Some people need to be punished for it but punishing ourselves economically is foolish. People get their heads cut off daily over there and we are not going to change their way of life.
    thousands are killed every day so what does one matter???

    it’s only one so why should we not continue to profit from it??

    because all of those thousands are ones, that’s why. you get to thousands and tens of thousands and millions one at a time, that’s why. all of those ones are important.

    is it within my power as one person to save them all? probably not. but as part of a collective, i have a voice and maybe some influence and i for one am prepared to do a bit less economically to support a collective response that values every one and doesn’t excuse thousands one at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    How many Arabs have to die, so JT cancels our deal. 3000 jobs would disappear
    i’m not sure that it would “cost” 3,000 jobs but, even if it did, would your life not be worth 3,000 jobs providing light armoured vehicles to despots? seems to me that would be a win on two fronts.
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