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    https://globalnews.ca/news/4628088/b...ccusation-lie/

    This really doesn't help the women's cause and those that have been raped, sheesh..
    People lie.
    I'm well aware of that fact.
    We all are aware of that. Yet with little factual information and only the words of people, we don’t withhold judgement, but instead we go and choose sides and become vehement supporters of one side or another based on our own misguided faith in our ability to spot the lier.

    I heard last night that in the US only 7% of voters actually change their votes between parties. And it sure seems to me that those on either side believe their party (their side, their tribe) is mostly telling the truth while the opposing party can only tell lies.
    But the President should be above lies and partisan politics. He should be a leader, a moral compass and inspire the Nation to higher aspirations.


    He should not be the purveyor of fake news, conspiracy theories, blatant lies about impending attack and the disparagement of Constitutionally protected rights and freedoms.
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    The NYC synagogue vandal worked for the Obama campaign:


    https://www.foxnews.com/us/synagogue...08-reports-say


    Hate crimes haoxes like this need to be taken as seriously as real hate crimes.
    MrOilers, I don’t understand. You say hoaxes like this.

    They’ve charged the guy with hate crimes. Why are you instead saying it was a hoax? What did I miss? Is the guy Jewish?

    I say its a hoax because this man was working with Democrats as an activist activist to combat hate crimes (he was featured a couple of years ago in this piece by the New York Times):
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/n...s-a-break.html
    Yup, sure seems like a hoax.

    Though can’t rule out it being an actual hate crime.

    Like the firefighter-arsonist, preacher-molester, etc

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    The NYC synagogue vandal worked for the Obama campaign:


    https://www.foxnews.com/us/synagogue...08-reports-say


    Hate crimes haoxes like this need to be taken as seriously as real hate crimes.
    you post the fact that anti-semitism exists under/in the entire political spectrum as if that’s somehow to be seen as good news.

    “look, it’s not just some some of us who hold these views and do these things”.

    it’s just that those who stir them up and support them regardless of their respective political persuasions still need to be accountable for their actions. and that includes the donald as well as the perpetrator.

    what the donald says and does is not a hoax, it’s real and it’s dangerous.
    That's B.S. and you know it.

    Anti-semitic acts and other hate crimes are VERY bad.

    I posted this story simply because nobody else had yet.
    that’s bs and you know it.

    first you truncate my post without indicating you have edited it (i’ve reinserted the deletion above for clarity).

    secondly, you didn’t just post the story, you chose to comment on it.

    thirdly, you made the accusation that this - without defining “this” - is somehow a “hate crimes hoax”. perpetuated by who? to what end? and your choice of words in doing so stated - or at least inferred - that these acts therefor weren’t a hate crime, they were part of a some amorphous hate crime hoax.

    you’re starting to sound like the donald boasting that “we will never back down” even when demonstrably lying and demonstrably wrong.
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    Did you read the article or my comments on it since?

    Clearly not. Another poster (who is usually quite impartial) who read what I posted also agrees that it looks like it could be a hoax.

    I did nothing wrong for you to act like you are. Take a hike.
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    Did you read the article or my comments on it since?

    Clearly not. Another poster (who is usually quite impartial) who read what I posted also agrees that it looks like it could be a hoax.

    I did nothing wrong for you to act like you are. Take a hike.
    i read it. right to the end including the subsequent edits/clarifications.

    and i read all your posts.

    clearly.

    and, pre or post hike, i will stand by my conclusion. what you posited and the way you did so was and remains bs.

    a hoax? perpetuated by who and to what end? the acts spoke for themselves as to what they are.

    doubling down on what you said instead of correcting the statements and the inferences they imply is just like the donald stating he will “fight to the end” even when proven to be wrong in fact and in his underlying assumptions as if the truth matters less than what he believes or wants to be true.
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    How is it BS?

    He is an "anti-hate" activist that worked for the Democrat party and Obama, and was caught writing anti-semitic graffiti on a synagogue at a time when the Democrats and their supporters are hell-bent on painting all conservatives as racist and anti-semites, right before an election, and one week out where a neo-Nazi psycho just killed a bunch of Jewish people in a hate-related attack. Call that BS if you want, but those all remain FACTS.

    It looks like a hoax to me. Maybe not to you, and you'd rather whine about quoting your posts, and then whine about how Trump talks. But it looks like a hoax to me, and to others. I'm sticking to that belief until I see something that changes my mind.

    (it wouldn't hurt you to be open to changing your mind about evidence presented to you, either)
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/4628088/b...ccusation-lie/

    This really doesn't help the women's cause and those that have been raped, sheesh..
    People lie.
    I'm well aware of that fact.
    We all are aware of that. Yet with little factual information and only the words of people, we don’t withhold judgement, but instead we go and choose sides and become vehement supporters of one side or another based on our own misguided faith in our ability to spot the lier.

    I heard last night that in the US only 7% of voters actually change their votes between parties. And it sure seems to me that those on either side believe their party (their side, their tribe) is mostly telling the truth while the opposing party can only tell lies.
    I wasn't choosing a side, if the only way the Democrates win is by lying, they are no better than the thousands of copy and paste posts about Trump lying, She's a disgrace to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    How is it BS?

    He is an "anti-hate" activist that worked for the Democrat party and Obama, and was caught writing anti-semitic graffiti on a synagogue at a time when the Democrats and their supporters are hell-bent on painting all conservatives as racist and anti-semites, right before an election, and one week out where a neo-Nazi psycho just killed a bunch of Jewish people in a hate-related attack. Call that BS if you want, but those all remain FACTS.

    It looks like a hoax to me. Maybe not to you, and you'd rather whine about quoting your posts, and then whine about how Trump talks. But it looks like a hoax to me, and to others. I'm sticking to that belief until I see something that changes my mind.

    (it wouldn't hurt you to be open to changing your mind about evidence presented to you, either)
    no one is arguing with your facts.

    your conclusion that those facts somehow represent a hoax without even theorizing as to how is however still bs.

    again, by who and to what end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    How is it BS?

    He is an "anti-hate" activist that worked for the Democrat party and Obama, and was caught writing anti-semitic graffiti on a synagogue at a time when the Democrats and their supporters are hell-bent on painting all conservatives as racist and anti-semites, right before an election, and one week out where a neo-Nazi psycho just killed a bunch of Jewish people in a hate-related attack. Call that BS if you want, but those all remain FACTS.

    It looks like a hoax to me. Maybe not to you, and you'd rather whine about quoting your posts, and then whine about how Trump talks. But it looks like a hoax to me, and to others. I'm sticking to that belief until I see something that changes my mind.

    (it wouldn't hurt you to be open to changing your mind about evidence presented to you, either)
    The coincidences do point in the direction of a hoax or so called “false flag” operation. That does not make it so. At most it says there is some probability of that being so. Maybe even a fairly high probability. Treating it as factually incontrovertible, without all the needed facts, is engaging in a “witch hunt”.

    Why would anyone believe anything when not enough facts are available to come to a properly substantiated conclusion? Coincidences, expectations, predictions, prophecies, etc - are all just information but should never be confused with “cause and effect”.

    Therefore when you say; “ But it looks like a hoax to me, and to others. I'm sticking to that belief until I see something that changes my mind“ you’re highlighting what I’ve been arguing here for a while now. People choosing belief over reason.

    I think, a failure to think is becoming one of the biggest problems the world has these days. It’s an abject failure of people everywhere to hold off on their judgements and to think for a moment that the whole story is not known and what facts are being presented may be critically incomplete, unconfirmed, biased, spun and near certainly in totals media environment- selective.

    Minds are being made up without any intellectual restraint and then those minds refuse to change. They then simply engage in either defending their jumping to conclusions, adopting some other implantation of thoughts in their own heads, or seeking out further biased information or opinions to just back up their conclusion (confirmation bias). Its lazy and people refuse to seek out information that challenges their own thinking. It’s like some compulsion to validate invalid thoughts. Often, even when additional facts present themselves, people that have already made up their minds just ignore other possibilities.

    I’m not saying any of this very well but it just so insane that people with “no horse in the race” (as with US politics) nonetheless become mentally unhinged in trying to cast one group or the other as pure goodness or pure evil.
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    Sounds like a couple of Trumpers around here.

    Flailing Trump supporter insists #MAGAbomber and Pittsburgh killer are ‘socialists’ in train-wreck interview



    “The white supremacists are not right-wing, they’re socialists!” he insisted. “They’re socialists, they believe in big government!”


    Vigeland noted that white supremacists are right-wing by definition — hence, the decision to name the infamous 2017 Charlottesville rally “Unite the Right.”


    “By your definition!” he shot back. “Why would someone who believes in big government be right wing? Why would someone who… uh…”


    At this point, the Trump supporter let out multiple exasperated sighs.


    “First of all,” he continued once he regained his composure. “The Nazis, there’s, like, 50 of them in the whole country. There’s no association with them in the Republican Party.”


    Vigeland pointed out that many prominent neo-Nazis — including Richard Spencer and David Duke — adamantly backed Trump’s campaign in 2016.


    “I don’t care who they like!” he said. “They’re a bunch of crazies!”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/fla...eck-interview/
    Thanks for posting this. Interesting. Debates over semantics and definitions. People including reporters should look more into the history of Hitler and the Nazis and nationalism, socialism etc. Also right-wing is different than extreme right wing (same differentiations are made between religious followers and extremist religious followers).

    Why does the headline say “Flailing”? Also, if this was a train-wreck interview what interview isn’t? It seemed very typical to me, or where people supposed to nod in agreement with whatever this reporter said?

    That’s a very uncommon usage with mostly negative connotations. Watch the video and note the “flailing”.

    Interesting comments in it about the former Democratic Party voters now voting for Trump.







    It’s tough to squeeze murderous power hungry tyrants seeking their own kingdoms, into nice neat little boxes with labels corresponding to our modern categorizations.

    Note the modern similarities with Trump, with the dictators Trump admires, with communism, with China...




    Hitler and the socialist dream

    He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

    George Watson, 22 November 1998

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...m-1186455.html


    Hitler's discovery was that socialism could be national as well as international. There could be a national socialism. That is how he reportedly talked to his fellow Nazi Otto Wagener in the early 1930s. The socialism of the future would lie in "the community of the volk", not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to "convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists", meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.

    ...
    “That brutal view, which a generation later was to be fortified by the new pseudo-science of eugenics, was by the last years of the century a familiar part of the socialist tradition, though it is understandable that since the liberation of Auschwitz in January 1945 socialists have been eager to forget it. But there is plenty of evidence in the writings of HG Wells, Jack London, Havelock Ellis, the Webbs and others to the effect that socialist commentators did not flinch from drastic measures. The idea of ethnic cleansing was orthodox socialism for a century and more.

    So the socialist intelligentsia of the western world entered the First World War publicly committed to racial purity and white domination and no less committed to violence. Socialism offered them a blank cheque, and its licence to kill included genocide. In 1933,...”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...m-1186455.html
    Bolding mine

    More on this odd “flailing” reference used in the headline (maybe it’s not to late for me to start “flailing” when I talk):


    Do YOU Talk With Your Hands? The Answer Can Be Surprisingly Revealing...

    “Researchers have found that infants who use more hand gestures at 18 months old have greater language abilities later on, indicating that talking with your hands could just be a sign of higher intelligence — at least where communication is concerned.”

    https://www.littlethings.com/why-you...th-your-hands/

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    This is what Trump supporters think antisemitism is. Showing up at a restaurant without a reservation and being told there was a two hour wait.

    WATCH: Fuming Trump supporters smear Jewish-owned restaurant as anti-Semitic over two-hour wait

    The video was promoted by right-wing activist Charlie Kirk and Fox News host Laura Ingraham — but Carmine’s came out with a statement on Monday completely debunking the alleged “discrimination” the Trump supporters faced.


    “Carmine’s, whose owners are Jewish, did not turn away anyone based on politics/religion,” the restaurant wrote on its Twitter account. “There was a two-hour wait Saturday, the night before the NYC Marathon when we served pasta to people from all walks of life. Those without a reservation were asked to wait due to space available.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/wat...two-hour-wait/

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    ^ pillars of stupidity in red hats.
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    Mainstream Media take stand against Donald Trump

    Enough is enough of Trump's race baiting and demagoguery.


    NBC, Fox, CNN pull Donald Trump ad accused of spreading racism
    https://globalnews.ca/news/4630758/d...igrant-ad-nbc/
    NBC says that “after further review,” it will stop airing President Donald Trump’s campaign advertisement that featured an immigrant convicted of murder.

    The advertisement aired on “Sunday Night Football” and on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Monday.

    CNN rejected the same ad, declaring it racist. That drew a public rebuke from the president’s son, Donald J. Trump Jr.


    Fox News also pulled the ad over the weekend.


    “Upon further review, Fox News pulled the ad yesterday and it will not appear on either Fox News Channel or Fox Business Network,” the network said in a statemen
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    And this mentions some attack by Trump on George Soros*:

    How conspiracy theories and anti-Semitism turned George Soros into a bogeyman for the American right | CBC Radio

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/episod...ight-1.4889040


    * months ago a CBC radio interview with some longtime Soros reporter mentioned how strange it was that Soros had become so hated. If I come across it I’ll post it.
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    From the CBC article:

    As a philanthropist, he has donated billions through his foundation committed to civil society

    His foundation supports left-leaning political activists. That's not a "conspiracy theory', that's what George Soros openly does.

    No different than the Koch's financial support of right-leaning political activism, really.

    And it's not "anti-semitism" to blame George Soros when his foundation gives large donations to political activist groups who then start protests that turn into violent riots.

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    Can you show us some examples of those "George Soros inspired violent riots".

    While you are at it, can you show us some examples of Donald Trump's generous philanthropy and work done by his charity...
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    This seemed to be the most appropriate spot for this right now.


    During WWII, Jews in Budapest were brought to the edge of the Danube, ordered to remove their shoes, and shot, falling into the water below.
    60 pairs of iron shoes now line the river's bank, a ghostly memorial to the victims.


    'Shoes on the Danube Promenade' by Can Togay and Gyula Pauer.
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    The republicans have no interest in fixing problems. When ever they are caught up in a scandal, the answer for them is always " Look what the so and so may have done in the past" or try to paint an equivalent picture of the same thing happen on the left, no matter how far fetch it is. It's never about

    DOING THE RIGHT THING.

    They get their hand's caught, and its all about who else might have been caught before. not about how to fix the problem, or admitting to wrong doing.

    this is witnessed in just about all of MrOilers posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    This seemed to be the most appropriate spot for this right now.


    During WWII, Jews in Budapest were brought to the edge of the Danube, ordered to remove their shoes, and shot, falling into the water below.
    60 pairs of iron shoes now line the river's bank, a ghostly memorial to the victims.


    'Shoes on the Danube Promenade' by Can Togay and Gyula Pauer.
    Photo by Nikodem Nijaki
    Thank you for sharing that. I was unaware of the event or the memorial

    More info on the thousands of murdered jews and non-jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoes_on_the_Danube_Bank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Can you show us some examples of those "George Soros inspired violent riots".
    His foundation donated millions to Black Lives Matter, who held a number of protests that turned very violent.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-liberal-foun/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    From the CBC article:

    As a philanthropist, he has donated billions through his foundation committed to civil society

    His foundation supports left-leaning political activists. That's not a "conspiracy theory', that's what George Soros openly does.

    No different than the Koch's financial support of right-leaning political activism, really.

    And it's not "anti-semitism" to blame George Soros when his foundation gives large donations to political activist groups who then start protests that turn into violent riots.

    Did you see this?
    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...499595691.html

    very sad..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Can you show us some examples of those "George Soros inspired violent riots".
    His foundation donated millions to Black Lives Matter, who held a number of protests that turned very violent.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-liberal-foun/
    So you are saying that a few negative issues and riots that happened means that NO money should have been donated for the Black Lives Matter movement? Are you also suggesting that the Civil Rights movement or Anti-Vietnam War protests should not have been funded even though they were largely peaceful but some riots and deaths resulted?

    I guess only right wing groups should be funded in your opinion because they are angels and the only 'True Americans'.
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    Of course George Soros can use his foundation to donate to whatever political causes he wants to. Lots and lots of wealthy people do.

    It's not a "conspiracy theory" to point out that fact and to disagree with those political organizations like that CBC article said. And it's certainly not anti-semitism to do that, either.

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    Yeah, nobody financed these "fine people"




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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Yeah, nobody financed these "fine people"



    I don't think anybody financed those "fine people" either.

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    My prediction for tomorrow

    Democrats win the House by 21 seats
    Democrats tie the Senate
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    ^^
    i think you missed the [unnecessary] sarcasm emoticon.
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    Trump already calling the election rigged and that illegal voting is going on.

    Does not mention that his previous claims in 2016 all proved false.

    He also does not mention that the Republicans have been gerrymandering districts for years.
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    Faux "News" is barely even trying to pretend to be a news agency.

    Sean Hannity and Judge Jeanine Pirro speak at Trump rally in Missouri after Fox News claims they’re just ‘reporting’ from it

    Fox News sent the following statement Sunday: “An FNC spokesperson confirmed Hannity will only be hosting his show from that location and interviewing the president.”


    It seems they were mistaken.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/sea...ust-reporting/

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    Some insight from a 1%
    https://youtu.be/WH1NihRN5cU
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    Apparently they were hurt by Trump calling it "the worst coverup" and are taking steps to get a higher coverup rating from him.

    Saudis sent expert team to remove Khashoggi evidence under guise of helping with investigation, Turkish official says

    More than a month after Saudi agents assassinated the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul, officials in Turkey continue to drip out sensational new details in a killing that has caused an international uproar.


    The latest twist in the case that has drawn heavy global criticism of Saudi Arabia: The kingdom sent an expert team to clean up evidence of the crime under the guise of helping with the investigation, a senior Turkish official said on Monday.


    The senior Turkish official confirmed the main details of the report and said the Saudi team was sent with the knowledge of top Saudi officials. The two men travelled to Turkey for the sole purpose of covering up evidence of the killing before Turkish police were allowed to search the premises, the official said in comments relayed by electronic message.


    The two men were identified as Ahmad Abdulaziz al-Junabi, a chemist, and Khaled Yahya al-Zahrani, a toxicologist, part of a team of Saudi investigators who spent several days in Turkey visiting the consulate and the consul’s residence, ostensibly to help with the investigation into Khashoggi’s disappearance, the newspaper reported.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...of-khashoggis/

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    Expect The Donald to start sucking up to the Nigerian government and to call them strong.

    Nigerian Army Uses Trump’s Words to Justify Fatal Shooting of Rock-Throwing Protesters

    Human rights activists and many Nigerians were outraged at the military’s response, which echoed a similar confrontation in 2015, when soldiers killed nearly 350 protesters from the same group, the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, the largest and most recognizable face of Shiite Islam in the country. The group organizes frequent protest marches.


    Early Friday morning, the military responded to the criticism.


    The army’s official Twitter account posted a video, “Please Watch and Make Your Deductions,” showing Mr. Trump’s speech on Thursday in which he said rocks would be considered firearms if thrown toward the American military at the nation’s borders.


    “We’re not going to put up with that,” Mr. Trump said in the clip. “They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/w...imes&smtyp=cur

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    He is sucking up to the Saudis because they buy lots of weapons. Meanwhile he reimposed the same Obama sanctions on Iran.

    Come on Donald, I thought you were the greatest deal maker in history??? Why not score the same Saudi deals with Iran? Otherwise they will just get their weapons from another country.

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    Trump is probably pyssed by the fact that he accorded the Saudis with "the worst coverup". Such glowing accolades are usually reserved for himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Apparently they were hurt by Trump calling it "the worst coverup" and are taking steps to get a higher coverup rating from him.

    Saudis sent expert team to remove Khashoggi evidence under guise of helping with investigation, Turkish official says

    More than a month after Saudi agents assassinated the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul, officials in Turkey continue to drip out sensational new details in a killing that has caused an international uproar.


    The latest twist in the case that has drawn heavy global criticism of Saudi Arabia: The kingdom sent an expert team to clean up evidence of the crime under the guise of helping with the investigation, a senior Turkish official said on Monday.


    The senior Turkish official confirmed the main details of the report and said the Saudi team was sent with the knowledge of top Saudi officials. The two men travelled to Turkey for the sole purpose of covering up evidence of the killing before Turkish police were allowed to search the premises, the official said in comments relayed by electronic message.


    The two men were identified as Ahmad Abdulaziz al-Junabi, a chemist, and Khaled Yahya al-Zahrani, a toxicologist, part of a team of Saudi investigators who spent several days in Turkey visiting the consulate and the consul’s residence, ostensibly to help with the investigation into Khashoggi’s disappearance, the newspaper reported.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...of-khashoggis/
    When are the Saudis going to turn over the remains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Faux "News" is barely even trying to pretend to be a news agency.

    Sean Hannity and Judge Jeanine Pirro speak at Trump rally in Missouri after Fox News claims they’re just ‘reporting’ from it

    Fox News sent the following statement Sunday: “An FNC spokesperson confirmed Hannity will only be hosting his show from that location and interviewing the president.”


    It seems they were mistaken.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/sea...ust-reporting/
    I wonder what Trump's reaction would be if Rachael Maddow went on stage to boost Elizabeth Warren or if Lester Holt walked onto ‎Andrew Gillum's stage?

    Trump would go out of his mind.

    But when Faux News hosts do it, Trump cheers them on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Faux "News" is barely even trying to pretend to be a news agency.

    Sean Hannity and Judge Jeanine Pirro speak at Trump rally in Missouri after Fox News claims they’re just ‘reporting’ from it

    Fox News sent the following statement Sunday: “An FNC spokesperson confirmed Hannity will only be hosting his show from that location and interviewing the president.”


    It seems they were mistaken.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/sea...ust-reporting/
    I wonder what Trump's reaction would be if Rachael Maddow went on stage to boost Elizabeth Warren or if Lester Holt walked onto ‎Andrew Gillum's stage?

    Trump would go out of his mind.

    But when Faux News hosts do it, Trump cheers them on...
    emphasis added.

    i think you might be giving credit where it's not due...

    you have to be "in your mind" in order to be able to "go out of your mind" and i think that ship may have sailed a long time ago for the donald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Apparently they were hurt by Trump calling it "the worst coverup" and are taking steps to get a higher coverup rating from him.

    Saudis sent expert team to remove Khashoggi evidence under guise of helping with investigation, Turkish official says

    More than a month after Saudi agents assassinated the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul, officials in Turkey continue to drip out sensational new details in a killing that has caused an international uproar.


    The latest twist in the case that has drawn heavy global criticism of Saudi Arabia: The kingdom sent an expert team to clean up evidence of the crime under the guise of helping with the investigation, a senior Turkish official said on Monday.


    The senior Turkish official confirmed the main details of the report and said the Saudi team was sent with the knowledge of top Saudi officials. The two men travelled to Turkey for the sole purpose of covering up evidence of the killing before Turkish police were allowed to search the premises, the official said in comments relayed by electronic message.


    The two men were identified as Ahmad Abdulaziz al-Junabi, a chemist, and Khaled Yahya al-Zahrani, a toxicologist, part of a team of Saudi investigators who spent several days in Turkey visiting the consulate and the consul’s residence, ostensibly to help with the investigation into Khashoggi’s disappearance, the newspaper reported.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...of-khashoggis/
    When are the Saudis going to turn over the remains?
    Wasn't it reported that his body was dissolved in acid? No remains there, then.
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    From Andy Borowitz.


    Putin Projected to Lose Control of the House


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    Yup. Putin had a bad night.

    Going to be interesting when they subpoena Trump's tax returns and money he gets from foreign sources...
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    Time for the House to restore checks and balances instead of being a rubber stamp for the White House.


    House Dems Already Have Their List of Trump Scandals to Investigate. Here It Is.

    You can read the whole list. But here is a sampling of the topics Cummings and his Democratic colleagues have set their sights on:


    White House security clearances (involving Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, national security adviser John Bolton, and others)
    The controversial addition of a citizenship question to the 2020 census
    The Trump administration’s Muslim travel ban
    The State Department’s decision to close its cyber office
    The EPA’s use of a political loyalty list
    The possible participation of Cambridge Analytica’s foreign employees in US elections
    The deadly ambush in Niger that left four American soldiers dead
    The use of private email by White House officials
    Trump’s response to the hurricane that devastated Puerto Rico
    The dealings of the Trump Foundation
    Potential conflicts of interest between Kushner’s business actions and his policy advice
    Payments the Trump Organization received from foreign sources
    Russian intervention with state voting systems
    Former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s contacts with foreign officials

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Time for the House to restore checks and balances instead of being a rubber stamp for the White House.


    House Dems Already Have Their List of Trump Scandals to Investigate. Here It Is.

    You can read the whole list. But here is a sampling of the topics Cummings and his Democratic colleagues have set their sights on:


    White House security clearances (involving Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, national security adviser John Bolton, and others)
    The controversial addition of a citizenship question to the 2020 census
    The Trump administration’s Muslim travel ban
    The State Department’s decision to close its cyber office
    The EPA’s use of a political loyalty list
    The possible participation of Cambridge Analytica’s foreign employees in US elections
    The deadly ambush in Niger that left four American soldiers dead
    The use of private email by White House officials
    Trump’s response to the hurricane that devastated Puerto Rico
    The dealings of the Trump Foundation
    Potential conflicts of interest between Kushner’s business actions and his policy advice
    Payments the Trump Organization received from foreign sources
    Russian intervention with state voting systems
    Former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s contacts with foreign officials

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...tigations/?123
    Seems like quite a few of those would be redundant to Mueller‘s investigation. Do they also lack faith in the guy’s ability to investigate many of those issues?

    Also aren’t these somewhat the same?
    - White House security clearances (involving Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, national security adviser John Bolton, and others)
    - Former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s contacts with foreign officials
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    The list of corruption scandals is amazingly long and the Republicans were complicit in actively covering them up while Democrats in committee formally requested documents in multiple investigations but were refused at every turn.

    If you recall that Republicans had 8 Benghazi investigations over just one incident, Trump, his family and all his appointees are in for some tough questions about their appallingly corrupt activities that violated Federal laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    From Andy Borowitz.


    Putin Projected to Lose Control of the House

    Trump to meet Putin and Erdoğan during First World War ceremonies | World news | The Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...war-ceremonies

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    Don't be fooled. The midterms were not a bad night for Trump | Cas Mudde | Opinion | The Guardian

    “But many other far-right Republicans were re-elected, including Louie Gohmert, Steve King and Ted Cruz in Texas, while old-school Republicans were replaced by more brazenly Trumpian ones – as, for example, Katie Arrington in South Carolina (House of Representatives), Brian Kemp in Georgia (governor), and Ron DeSantis in Florida (governor).

    On the other side of the political spectrum, the Democratic party made modest overall advances, in terms of seats rather than votes – barely taking the House, while staying well behind a US Senate majority. That said, the party has changed fundamentally in composition. Two years after Bernie Sanders’ failed challenge for the presidential nomination, there will be almost as many Democratic Socialists as conservative-leaning Democrats (known as Blue Dog Democrats) in Congress. While still a minority, they will be a loud minority, convinced they represent the future of the party.”

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    They gained seats in the Senate? Wow.( I fell asleep and the house was tied)
    I was expecting them to lose the house, but was it a huge blue wave?
    They campaigned on hope and healthcare, within minutes they want to see Trumps tax return's. I'd be furious if I had voted for them, that seems like the same old democrats.

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    same old democrats looking for justice and laws of the land to be applied. Much better than the republicans who turn a blind eye to just about everything.

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    They have been asking for Trump's tax returns for over two year, since before the 2016 election. This is not a new thing that happened minutes after the election.

    And don't forget that Trump said he would release his tax returns.

    “I’m under a routine audit and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released."
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    BTW, the IRS has said that being audited in no way prevents Trump from releasing his returns.

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    Boy, the tone of Mitch McConnell and Trump has TOTALLY changed today. Even Trump is giving Nancy Pelosi a warm welcome and congratulations today and promises bipartisanship.

    Trump is speaking from the WH today and for the first time he actually sounds like a normal human being and not a demagogue. Funny that he talks about putting politics aside and work together. Wants crystal clear, clean water and air and insists on protecting the environment. Amazing change.

    I expect that Trump will keep his tail between his legs for a while. Or at least until his next 6 am tweet tomorrow.
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    The question now is, will Trump try to end the Mueller probe?

    Democrats planning to call Mueller for nationally televised hearings if he’s removed from the Russia probe: report

    Nancy Pelosi, who’s likely to return to her post as House Speaker, has pledged to make sure Mueller’s “documentation is preserved,” and senior Democratic officials say the special counsel would immediately be summoned to Capitol Hill for nationally televised testimony about his findings if he’s removed.


    “I think you could expect Democrats to take pieces of what they shut down and expose it publicly,” said one high-ranking Democratic policy adviser. “This is a report paid for with taxpayer dollars. So taxpayers would have a right to know what Mr. Mueller found.”


    That’s the exact opposite position taken by the president and his legal team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    I expect that Trump will keep his tail between his legs for a while. Or at least until his next 6 am tweet tomorrow.
    Minutes later...

    Trump threatens that if House Democrats flood his administration with subpoenas, he will do the same and government will come to a halt.


    Trump added that Democrats have "nothing, zero" on him.


    Trump speaks at the White House and calls CNN the Enemy of the People.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...b0b627bf3cb91a
    17:29
    Trump attacks CNN reporter as 'rude, terrible person'
    Trump is challenged by CNN on his [Trump’s] characterization of migrants in Central America as an “invasion.”


    Did you demonize immigrants as a political ploy?


    Trump denies it. He says the migrants were an “invasion.”


    Jim Acosta of CNN points out Trump’s campaign had an ad of migrants climbing a wall. “They weren’t actors,” Trump says.


    “I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN,” Trump says.


    Trump says he’s not concerned about Russia because it’s a hoax.


    Then he attacks Acosta who is trying to ask a follow up.


    “CNN should be ashamed of itself having you working for them. You are a very rude .. person.. the way you treat Sarah Huckabee is...”


    Now Acosta and Trump are in a war of words. Trump says CNN is fake news and as such the enemy of the people.


    The room falls briefly into chaos before the Q&A rubric is re-established.
    Trump will not change.
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    OK, who had two minutes and 45 seconds in the betting pool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    They have been asking for Trump's tax returns for over two year, since before the 2016 election. This is not a new thing that happened minutes after the election.

    And don't forget that Trump said he would release his tax returns.

    “I’m under a routine audit and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released."
    .

    BTW, the IRS has said that being audited in no way prevents Trump from releasing his returns.

    Trump lies that he is under constant audit.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...b0b627bf3cb91a
    23m ago17:25
    Trump is asked what he’d do if the Democrats try to obtain his tax returns.


    He says “people don’t understand tax returns” and his returns are super complicated and processed by top firms and besides summaries he’s submitted (?) are more comprehensive.


    Also his company is huge and continuously under audit - the same excuse he was making two years ago: “And it is a very big company, far bigger than you would even understand.”


    “Nobody turns over a return when you’re under audit,” Trump says – as if it ever comes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    OK, who had two minutes and 45 seconds in the betting pool?
    I know it was not MrOilers

    Asked about staff turnover, Trump says “people leave.” He says “it’s an exhausting job” but “I love doing it.”

    “We have many people lined up for” jobs in the White House, Trump says.
    Trump sets an example

    Trump is asked whether the pitched emotional tenor that has defined the national discourse, the dark national mood and incidents of violence might be put in the past.
    He takes it as a question about the media. “If they would cover me fairly, which they don’t...

    “I would love to see unity, including with the media. I’d be honest. I think it’s an amazingly divisive thing... It really does bring disunity.”

    Then he barks down a reporter trying to ask a question. “Excuse me, you were not called on.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...b0b627bf3cb91a
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    Trump deflects

    Trump: 'I think I am a great moral leader'

    A reporter's question about the rise in hate crimes and anti-semitic incidents during the Trump presidency.


    Trump replies that Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called him a great friend of Israel. “Nobody has done more for Isreal than Donald Trump.”


    An irrelevant answer. The reporter tries again: What about divides in US?


    A second irrelevant answer. Trump says the strong economy will help then starts dispensing economic statistics. “China would have superseded us in two years as an economic power, now they’re not even close.”


    Then he riffs on China.


    The reporter tries again: How do you see yourself as a moral leader?


    I think I am a great moral leader, and I love our country.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...b0b627bf3cb91a
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Boy, the tone of Mitch McConnell and Trump has TOTALLY changed today. Even Trump is giving Nancy Pelosi a warm welcome and congratulations today and promises bipartisanship.
    I don't think he is being sincere at all. I suspect Trump is trolling them by only openly supporting Pelosi as House Speaker in an attempt to cause problems for the Democrats (I think a lot of Democrats want someone new and kind of want Pelosi to fade away).

    Read the Art of the Deal and you'll see that this is the kind of manipulation that Trump has done his entire life to politicians.

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    What would Tony Schwartz's book have to do with Trump's supposed tactics?

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/c...rt-of-the-deal

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    Trump was barely involved in the writing of the book (except for choosing cover photos) - it's mostly a rehash of Trump's myth-making. Except for 1 chapter about "doing business" (which he's routinely not done in real life) it's all story-telling.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Boy, the tone of Mitch McConnell and Trump has TOTALLY changed today. Even Trump is giving Nancy Pelosi a warm welcome and congratulations today and promises bipartisanship.
    I don't think he is being sincere at all. I suspect Trump is trolling them by only openly supporting Pelosi as House Speaker in an attempt to cause problems for the Democrats (I think a lot of Democrats want someone new and kind of want Pelosi to fade away).

    Read the Art of the Deal and you'll see that this is the kind of manipulation that Trump has done his entire life to politicians.
    I don't read fiction trash.

    Didn't read Mein Kampf either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Boy, the tone of Mitch McConnell and Trump has TOTALLY changed today. Even Trump is giving Nancy Pelosi a warm welcome and congratulations today and promises bipartisanship.
    I don't think he is being sincere at all. I suspect Trump is trolling them by only openly supporting Pelosi as House Speaker in an attempt to cause problems for the Democrats (I think a lot of Democrats want someone new and kind of want Pelosi to fade away).

    Read the Art of the Deal and you'll see that this is the kind of manipulation that Trump has done his entire life to politicians.
    The Democrats loathe Nancy..lol
    She had her day in the sun..so no, he's not being sincere..

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    When has Trump ever been sincere???


    Ask his wives...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudly View Post
    Trump was barely involved in the writing of the book (except for choosing cover photos) - it's mostly a rehash of Trump's myth-making. Except for 1 chapter about "doing business" (which he's routinely not done in real life) it's all story-telling.

    Whatever you believe, in that book Trump recaps the ways he has deliberately misled and misdirected his "foes" in real estate, hotel industry, NYC politics, and the NFL (when he owned a USFL team).

    And this tweet looks a lot like he is deliberately misdirecting Pelosi and her supporters, as well as any Democrats who has knives out for Pelosi. But maybe not.

    I don't actually care either way, so believe what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Boy, the tone of Mitch McConnell and Trump has TOTALLY changed today. Even Trump is giving Nancy Pelosi a warm welcome and congratulations today and promises bipartisanship.
    I don't think he is being sincere at all. I suspect Trump is trolling them by only openly supporting Pelosi as House Speaker in an attempt to cause problems for the Democrats (I think a lot of Democrats want someone new and kind of want Pelosi to fade away).

    Read the Art of the Deal and you'll see that this is the kind of manipulation that Trump has done his entire life to politicians.
    I don't read fiction trash.

    Didn't read Mein Kampf either.

    You give the impression that you don't read at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Boy, the tone of Mitch McConnell and Trump has TOTALLY changed today. Even Trump is giving Nancy Pelosi a warm welcome and congratulations today and promises bipartisanship.
    I don't think he is being sincere at all. I suspect Trump is trolling them by only openly supporting Pelosi as House Speaker in an attempt to cause problems for the Democrats (I think a lot of Democrats want someone new and kind of want Pelosi to fade away).

    Read the Art of the Deal and you'll see that this is the kind of manipulation that Trump has done his entire life to politicians.
    I don't read fiction trash.

    Didn't read Mein Kampf either.

    You give the impression that you don't read at all.
    as opposed to giving the impression that you simply don't have time to read because you're too busy watching and reposting faux news?
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    Jeff Sessions has "resigned"

    We are pleased to announce that Matthew G. Whitaker, Chief of Staff to Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the Department of Justice, will become our new Acting Attorney General of the United States. He will serve our Country well....
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    Boom! Trump moves to kill Mueller investigation.

    Jeff Sessions Out as Attorney General

    After months of enduring extraordinary attacks in both public and private from President Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions has, at the president’s request, stepped down as attorney general. The move to force out Sessions after the midterm elections had been widely expected, but the announcement—just one day after the elections—came as a surprise.


    Sessions’ chief of staff Matthew Whitaker will take over as acting attorney general.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...orney-general/


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    ... Now he can look forward to being a key witness for Mueller...
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    Jeff Sessions was going to be kicked out, so, no loss.

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    He was kicked out. Firstly, verbally beaten every day like a dog by Trump. Then forced to resign by Trump.

    Now he appoints a former CNN writer.
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    I guess this is what the next 2 years are going to look like:



    If the Democrats think they are going to waste Taxpayer Money investigating us at the House level, then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of Classified Information, and much else, at the Senate level. Two can play that game!
    -Donald J Trump
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    Trump believes as the American Emperor, he is above the law and investigation.
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    The lack of a blue wave, and instead they had the mauve puddle , is a good indication of the US for the next two years. Now they will start on the election..yawn

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    Blue wave meets Republican voter suppression and gerrymandered red wall. Made it almost impossible to get over but Democrats won House

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-colorado.html
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    well that didn't take long:

    "Jeff Sessions, the attorney general, has been fired by Donald Trump and replaced with a senior aide who has previously called for special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation to be defunded and reined in.

    Trump said in a tweet on Wednesday afternoon that Matthew Whitaker, Sessions’ chief of staff and a critic of Mueller's inquiry, had been appointed acting attorney general and that a permanent replacement would be nominated later."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...torney-general
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    Let's see what Lindsey Graham does...


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    Not that Trump is ever worried abut what's legal.

    Fox News legal analyst explains why Whitaker could himself be in Mueller’s crosshairs

    Under the law, the person running the Department of Justice must have been approved by the United States Senate for some previous position. Even on an interim post,” Napolitano said.


    Napolitano continued saying that next in line for the position is Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.


    “[Whitaker] was not confirmed by the United States Senate for a leadership position at the Justice Department. The White House will have to work this out. Who has been confirmed and who’s next in line? Deputy attorney general Rosenstein,” he said.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/fox...rs-crosshairs/
    Rod Rosenstein is no longer overseeing Robert Mueller’s probe — and the new acting AG is: report


    “Acting Attorney General [Matthew Whitaker] is in charge of all matters under the purview of the Department of Justice,” spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores told the New York Post. Raw Story has reached out to the DOJ for comment.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/rod...eneral-report/

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    Holy crap.

    Georgia’s GOP gubernatorial candidate Brian Kemp released personal info of 290,000 voters — then declares victory

    Georgia secretary of state and GOP gubernatorial candidate Brian Kemp released the addresses and personal information of more than 290,000 people who voted by absentee ballot in the state.


    An hour after people began noticing the information available on Georgia’s official Secretary of State website, Kemp declared victory.


    Journalist Molly Crabapple pointed out the release of the information, which was contained in a 40MB-size Microsoft Excel file posted to the GA Secretary of State’s website.


    “Kemp just doxxed every absentee ballot voter in Georgia,” Crabapple tweeted. “He posted an excel file on a government site with their names, addresses, registration [numbers] and whether they are elderly or disabled.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/geo...lares-victory/

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    Brian Kemp ran a totally illegal election.


    From Wiki
    He is currently the Republican nominee for Governor of Georgia in the 2018 election, which as the Secretary of State he is also in charge of overseeing. Kemp's oversight of elections and election data as Secretary of State has stirred controversy and accusations of abusing power. In 2015, Kemp's office erroneously distributed the Social Security numbers and dates of birth of registered Georgia voters. During the 2016 election, Kemp was the only state official to reject help from the Department of Homeland Security to guard against Russian interference. Kemp also encountered criticism from voting rights advocates; from 2012 to 2018, Kemp's office cancelled more than 1.4 million voter registrations, and during the 2018 election, Kemp held up more than 53,000 voter registration applications, with nearly 70% of the voter registrations belonging to African Americans.

    While running for governor, Kemp has been widely accused of voter suppression. He removed more than half a million voter registrations (8 percent of registered Georgia voters) from voter rolls under the pretense that they had moved out of state. An independent analysis of the voters found that of the 534,000 voters who were purged, 334,134 still lived at the same address. Only around 41,000 of those purged had actually moved out of state
    Watch Trump use this as an example of illegal voter suppression and...

    no...


    wait...
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    Double Holy Crap!

    Trump's acting attorney general was part of firm US accused of vast scam
    Matthew Whitaker sat on advisory board of World Patent Marketing, which was ordered to pay $26m settlement in May
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...eneral-us-firm

    Donald Trump’s new acting attorney general was part of a company accused by the US government of running a multimillion-dollar scam.

    Matthew Whitaker was paid to sit on the advisory board of World Patent Marketing, which was ordered in May this year to pay a $26m settlement following legal action by federal authorities, which said it tricked aspiring inventors.


    Whitaker was appointed acting attorney general on Wednesday afternoon after the attorney general, Jeff Sessions, was fired by Trump.


    Court filings in the case against World Patent Marketing show that Whitaker received regular payments of $1,875 from the Florida-based company, and sent a threatening email to a victim of the alleged scam.


    Whitaker publicly vouched for the company, claiming in a December 2014 statement that they “go beyond making statements about doing business ‘ethically’ and translate those words into action”.Whitaker, a former US attorney for the southern district of Iowa, said at the time: “I would only align myself with a first-class organization.”

    Whitaker’s role in the alleged scam was first reported by the Miami New Times in August 2017, shortly before he joined the Trump administration as a senior aide to Sessions.


    World Patent Marketing and its founder, Scott Cooper, were sued by the Federal Trade Commission in March last year. The government said it had “operated an invention-promotion scam that has bilked thousands of consumers out of millions of dollars”.




    The company was accused of tricking hopeful inventors into paying it thousands of dollars to obtain patents and licensing deals for their inventions. In fact, they “failed to fulfill almost every promise they make to consumers”, the complaint said.


    Emails filed to federal court show that in August 2015, Whitaker cited his former role as a federal prosecutor in a threatening email to a customer of World Patent Marketing who had complained about the company to the Better Business Bureau.
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    Elizabeth Warren, please run in 2020.. LOL

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    Trump said today that everyone wants to work at his White House.

    He is checking resumes for qualified Trump like people and is said to be considering a permanent replacement for Jeff Sessions. Bernie Madoff's projected release date is November 14, 2139 but Trump could pardon him because Madoff is such a great person and a hugely successful businessman like himself...
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    From Andy Borowitz.

    Fired Trump Staffers Hold Reunion



    HOUSTON (The Borowitz Report)—Former White House staffers who were fired by Donald Trump held their first reunion on Easter Sunday in Houston’s Astrodome.


    The event, which drew a crowd of approximately sixty-five thousand people, had been organized by the recently axed Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.

    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...s-hold-reunion

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    More "fine people"

    Journalist 'tortured to death' in Saudi Arabia days after Jamal Khashoggi murder
    Turki Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Jasser was allegedly killed in the country for running a Twitter account that exposed human rights abuses

    A second journalist has allegedly been killed in Saudi Arabia days after the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.


    It's said Turki Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Jasser was violently murdered in jail last week after he was arrested by authorities.


    Authorities say he secretly ran a Twitter account called Kashkool, which exposed human rights violations by officials and the royals in Saudi Arabia.


    Saudi moles in Twitter's regional office in Dubai unmasked him and he was arrested, according to reports.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...rabia-13550078

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    "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea." - Donald Trump, June 13, 2018

    North Korea 'really angry' at US as tensions rise

    Washington (CNN)North Korea is getting increasingly angry at the US, as talks are deadlocked and tensions between the two countries are on the rise, a source familiar with the discussions told CNN.


    US and foreign sources close to the talks paint a picture that's starkly different from the image President Donald Trump sought to convey Wednesday, when he told reporters the administration is "very happy with how it's going with North Korea. We think it's going fine."


    Trump had been asked about the administration's announcement, in the middle of the night as Tuesday's midterm elections results were coming in, that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's Thursday meeting with a key aide to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un had been postponed.


    "We're very happy with how it's going with North Korea. We think it's going fine. We're in no rush. We're in no hurry," Trump told reporters at a White House press conference. "The sanctions are on. The missiles have stopped. The rockets have stopped. The hostages are home. The great heroes are home."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/polit...ons/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    More "fine people"

    Journalist 'tortured to death' in Saudi Arabia days after Jamal Khashoggi murder
    Turki Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Jasser was allegedly killed in the country for running a Twitter account that exposed human rights abuses

    A second journalist has allegedly been killed in Saudi Arabia days after the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.


    It's said Turki Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Jasser was violently murdered in jail last week after he was arrested by authorities.


    Authorities say he secretly ran a Twitter account called Kashkool, which exposed human rights violations by officials and the royals in Saudi Arabia.


    Saudi moles in Twitter's regional office in Dubai unmasked him and he was arrested, according to reports.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...rabia-13550078
    Jim Acosta at CNN better watch himself around Trump. Donald has plans on him and a vat of acid in the basement of the White House...

    Sarah Sanders lies with fake news.
    White House press secretary Sarah Sanders accused Acosta of “placing his hands on a young woman just trying to do her job” in a statement announcing the revocation of Acosta’s “hard pass”.


    All the Press should have turned their back on Trump and walked out en masse.
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    Gee, I wonder where he got the idea to go after CNN? And I wonder if the headline writer would call making terrorist threats "harassment" if he were Muslim?

    Home, Ark. man faces charges for harassing CNN

    MOUNTAIN HOME, Ark. -- A Baxter County, Ark. man is accused of making terroristic threats to CNN reporters in Atlanta.

    Benjamin Matthews, 39, faces a five counts of making a terroristic threat.

    Investigators say the threats against the CNN staff happened between October 31st and November 2nd. The content of these calls ranged from general harassment, threat of bodily injury, and calls threatening the life of a CNN journalist. More than 40 such calls had been received by CNN from the same person.

    https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Mou...499978192.html
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    How can you tell Trump is lying?

    Donald Trump Says He’s ‘Never Used Racist Remarks.’ I Know Different.
    His recent attacks on immigrants fit a pattern of bigoted behavior toward minorities I watched for years.

    On Wednesday, the day after a midterm cycle dominated by President Trump’s divisive fear-mongering about immigrants invading our country, I listened as he told another of the lies for which has become so notorious. During his White House news conference he said, “I’ve never used racist remarks.”


    I know the real Trump better than most. For 3½ years, I worked in almost daily contact with him at the highest levels of the Atlantic City casino empire over which he once held sway. I saw him treat black people and minorities as inferior. I heard him say vulgar, bigoted things and I rebuked him for them. But he did not quit. Indeed, he has continued it to this day.


    Others who have known him, including his son Eric and former football player Herschel Walker insist he is not a racist. But I don’t see how anyone who has watched him across the 40 or so years could conclude otherwise. After all, he has been so public about it.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...fferent-222314

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post

    Sarah Sanders lies with fake news.
    White House press secretary Sarah Sanders accused Acosta of “placing his hands on a young woman just trying to do her job” in a statement announcing the revocation of Acosta’s “hard pass”.


    All the Press should have turned their back on Trump and walked out en masse.

    How is that fake news?

    Here is the raw footage of CNN's Jim Acosta swatting down the intern's arm after Trump answered a whole string of his questions but he refused to give up his mic so other reporters would get a chance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T-N...=youtu.be&t=83

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    How can you tell Trump is lying?
    ...
    because his lips move?
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    What it needs is for a total media blackout on Trump, no TV no newspapers. Let him stew in his own juice. You know, similar to how the cameras don't show crowd troubles at soccer matches.
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    Why would they do that? The TV and newspapers LOVE covering Trump. Look at how much attention he gets!

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    ^^That would only work if Fox news participated, seeing as that's what his supporters watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    How is that fake news?
    Because she didn't share the raw footage. She shared a doctored version that was posted by a well known conspiracy theorist from Infowars. The Press Secretary of the President of the United States of America blatantly shared doctored footage of the incident in order to deceive the public about it and to provide justification for removing the credentials of a reporter. This is textbook authoritarianism.

    The young lady was put in an incredibly difficult situation, and I feel bad for her. But the fact is, she initiated physical contact with Acosta 3-4 times in trying to take the microphone away from him, before on the last attempt he slightly dropped his outstretched arm/hand and touched her while she was grabbing at the microphone.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ctored-n933911

    The video clip Sanders tweeted Wednesday night — which CNN claimed had been manipulated — showed Acosta making a chopping motion at the aide's arm as she attempted to retrieve the microphone.

    In his tweet, Dornic shared a video that appears to reveal how the clip released by Sanders had been altered.

    The video clip tweeted by Sanders Wednesday night matched a clip posted by Paul Joseph Watson, editor-at-large for far-right media outlet Infowars, who denied altering the video.

    An analysis by social media intelligence agency Storyful found that the video clip shared by Sanders of the incident contained extra frames that do not appear in the original C-SPAN footage of the event. The extra frames appear to exaggerate the action of Acosta, according to Storyful, which is owned by News Corp.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...=.aeec339c923d

    Side-by-side comparisons support claims from fact-checkers and experts such as Jonathan Albright, research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University, who argued that crucial parts of the video appear to have been altered so as to distort the action.
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    This video, while slowed down and highlighted, is not otherwise manipulated and clearly shows that the intern initiated contact several times with Acosta, not the other way around: https://twitter.com/SarahBurris/stat...49547958951937

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    How dare that young lady try to take the microphone away from the reporter after his turn to ask questions was over!

    Come on. Watch the full video. Acosta was acting like a selfish jerk to everyone in that room, pushing down the arm of the intern and refusing to give someone else a turn with the mic (sped up or slowed down, that's what the video shows), and hogging the floor trying to argue with the President. What a jerk. Trump was right to chastise him. Acosta is lucky he wasn't escorted out of the room, actually.

    And before anyone whines about "press suppression" or some similar nonsense, watch the entire conference. Trump stood up there and answered dozens of questions from a variety of other reporters from many different networks for the next 45 minutes. And CNN's Jim Acosta got to stay for the entire thing after getting his questions answered.
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    First question is, why did Trump pick Jim Acosta as one of the first reporters to get two questions? Trump knows who he is and that he asks tough questions. Was it because Trump wanted to start a fight?

    Trump interrupted Acosta repeatedly before he could even get out the first question.



    then the White House supports a doctored video that has been making the rounds on InfoWars

    White House shares doctored video to support punishment of journalist Jim Acosta
    By Drew Harwell November 8 at 4:01 PM


    White House press secretary Sarah Sanders on Wednesday night shared a video of CNN reporter Jim Acosta that appeared to have been altered to make his actions at a news conference look more aggressive toward a White House intern.


    The edited video looks authentic: Acosta appeared to swiftly chop down on the arm of an aide as he held onto a microphone while questioning President Trump. But in the original video, Acosta’s arm appears to move only as a response to a tussle for the microphone. His statement, “Pardon me, ma’am,” is not included in the video Sanders shared.


    Critics said that video — which sped up the movement of Acosta’s arms in a way that dramatically changed the journalist’s response — was deceptively edited to score political points. That edited video was first shared by Paul Joseph Watson, known for his conspiracy-theory videos on the far-right website Infowars.




    Watson said he did not change the speed of the video and that claims he had altered it were a “brazen lie.” Watson, who did not immediately respond to requests for comment, told BuzzFeed he created the video by downloading an animated image from conservative news site Daily Wire, zooming in and saving it as a video — a conversion he says could have made it “look a tiny bit different.”


    Side-by-side comparisons support claims from fact-checkers and experts such as Jonathan Albright, research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University, who argued that crucial parts of the video appear to have been altered so as to distort the action.


    A frame-by-frame breakdown by Storyful, a social-media intelligence firm that verifies media content, found that the edited video included repeated frames that did not appear in the original footage. The repeated frames were shown only at the moment of contact and made Acosta’s arm movement look more exaggerated, said Shane Raymond, a journalist at Storyful.


    The video has quickly become a flashpoint in the battle over viral misinformation, turning a live interaction watched by thousands in real time into just another ideological tug-of-war. But it has also highlighted how video content — long seen as an unassailable verification tool for truth and confirmation — has become as vulnerable to political distortion as anything else.


    Albright said videos like this pose an even greater risk of perpetuating misinformation than completely faked news videos, because they contain a grain of truth and will likely be given the assumption of accuracy.


    “The most dangerous type of fake news and reporting and evidence is when you get into the fine details, the nuanced things that are shaped to present a certain viewpoint or decision or news a certain way,” he said. “It’s not AI-generated or completely false. It’s something that’s real but has been literally stretched ... and molded into weaponized evidence.”


    Sanders’s tweet of the edited video, in which she said the White House would “not tolerate the inappropriate behavior clearly documented in this video,” has at least 20,000 retweets and more than 2 million views. Watson’s video, posted two hours before, has been seen at least 740,000 times.


    Matt Dornic, a CNN communications executive, tweeted that Sanders’s sharing of the video was “absolutely shameful." “You released a doctored video - actual fake news. History will not be kind to you,” he wrote.


    On Thursday, Sanders said, "The question is: did the reporter make contact or not? The video is clear, he did. We stand by our statement.”


    The White House News Photographers Association said in a statement Thursday that it was “appalled" that Sanders may have “shared a manipulated video.” “We know that manipulating images is manipulating truth. It’s deceptive, dangerous and unethical,” said association president Whitney Shefte. “Knowingly sharing manipulated images is equally problematic, particularly when the person sharing them is a representative of our country’s highest office with vast influence over public opinion.”


    [‘You’re a very rude person.’ ‘That’s enough.’ ‘Sit down.’ Trump’s news conference turns hostile.]


    During Wednesday’s White House news conference, Acosta and Trump sparred over a question of whether Trump had “demonized immigrants” by calling a caravan of Central American migrants “an invasion.” Following a lengthy back-and-forth, a White House intern tried to take the microphone from Acosta, who held onto it. “Pardon me, ma’am,” Acosta said in the original video, though the audio was stripped from the edited version.


    On Wednesday night, Sanders accused Acosta of “placing his hands on a young woman” and said his press credentials would be suspended “until further notice.” Press advocates called the move an unprecedented retaliation against a journalist.


    The seconds-long interaction has been analyzed in excruciating detail and likened to a 21st-century “Zapruder film,” the closely scrutinized amateur video of late President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963. On social media, it has quickly become an object of massive ideological division, in which the same scene is open to very different interpretations.


    Watson wrote on Infowars that Acosta “clearly uses his left arm to physically resist/restrain the woman," and that he “overpowered her.” Infowars, whose conspiracy theories include the baseless claim that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax, was banned this year by Facebook, Google and Twitter for sharing offensive or threatening content.


    In another video of the encounter tweeted by Sarah Burris, an editor at the left-leaning political blog Raw Story, the footage has been slowed down and annotated to show the four times the White House intern touches Acosta while trying to take the microphone. It has been viewed more than 1 million times.




    A short history of Donald Trump’s clashes with CNN’s Jim Acosta – video
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...m-acosta-video
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    Poor Jim Acosta. What a martyr.

    Also, it's not a "doctored" video. He pushes the intern's arm down. Speed up or slow down the replay, that's what it clearly shows.

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