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  1. #10401

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    You didn't read the indictment.

    Read the indictment and tell me where it mentions Guilaini's name: https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...Indictment.pdf

    Go ahead. Be my guest.

    Prove me wrong (you can't).

  2. #10402

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    I'd look at your document, but it seems to be on a personal storage cloud site, and its blocked at work. Perhaps its hosted somewhere reputable?
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  3. #10403

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    Read the indictment like I did or shut up about it.

  4. #10404

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d&cmpId=google

    President Donald Trump, under siege from House Democrats weighing impeachment, suffered a stinging blow as a federal appeals court upheld a subpoena ordering his accountants to provide Congress with his financial records.
    Nobody is above the law, especially not a public servant like Chump.
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

  5. #10405

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Read the indictment like I did or shut up about it.
    I dont trust your source.... and coming from you, it's probably highly altered, much like those 'full transcripts' that you kept going on and on about how they were the 'full transcripts' then it was proven it wasn't... and now this^
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  6. #10406

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/conte...-b6221ee48876/

    There's a reputable source (for anyone except those that consider Fox News a leftist organization)
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  7. #10407

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    This morning we learned that 2 associates of Guiliani were arrested and charged by the Justice Department for violating campaign finance laws. What does this mean?
    Two associates working closely with Giuliani were arrested and charged by the Justice Department as they tried to influence American politics.[1]
    Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman, David Correia, and Andrey Kukushkin, the defendants, conspired to circumvent the federal laws against foreign influence by engaging in a scheme to funnel foreign money to candidates for federal and state office so that the defendants could buy potential influence with candidates, campaigns, and the candidates' governments. The defendants concealed the scheme from candidates, campaigns, federal regulators, and the public by entering into secret agreements, laundering foreign money through bank accounts in the names of limited liability corporations, and through the use of straw donors (also known as "conduits" or "straw contributors") who purported to make legal campaign contributions in their own names, rather than in the name of the true source of the funds.
    Months before the now infamous phone call between President Trump and newly elected President Zelenksy, Guiliani was in Ukraine trying to find dirt on Biden. He was working with his business associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman.[2] During the same period in which they were helping Giuliani in Ukraine, Parnas and Fruman were pursuing a lucrative deal with a Ukrainian state owned oil company known as Naftogaz. They were part of a group trying to install new management at the top of Ukraine's massive oil company.[3]
    As Rudy Giuliani was pushing Ukrainian officials last spring to investigate one of Donald Trump’s main political rivals, a group of individuals with ties to the president and his personal lawyer were also active in the former Soviet republic.
    Their aims were profit, not politics. This circle of businessmen and Republican donors touted connections to Giuliani and Trump while trying to install new management at the top of Ukraine’s massive state gas company. Their plan was to then steer lucrative contracts to companies controlled by Trump allies, according to two people with knowledge of their plans.
    Their plan hit a snag after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko lost his reelection bid to Volodymyr Zelenskiy, whose conversation with Trump about former Vice President Joe Biden is now at the center of the House impeachment inquiry of Trump.
    But the effort to install a friendlier management team at the helm of the gas company, Naftogaz, would soon be taken up with Ukraine’s new president by U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry, whose slate of candidates included a fellow Texan who is one of Perry’s past political donors.
    ...In early March, Fruman, Parnas and Sargeant were touting a plan to replace Naftogaz CEO Andriy Kobolyev with another senior executive at the company, Andrew Favorov, according to two individuals who spoke to the AP as well as a memorandum about the meeting that was later submitted to the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, formerly known as Kiev.
    ...The three approached Favorov with the idea while the Ukrainian executive was attending an energy industry conference in Texas. Parnas and Fruman told him they had flown in from Florida on a private jet to recruit him to be their partner in a new venture to export up to 100 tanker shipments a year of U.S. liquefied gas into Ukraine, where Naftogaz is the largest distributor, according to two people briefed on the details.
    Sargeant told Favorov that he regularly meets with Trump at Mar-a-Lago and that the gas-sales plan had the president’s full support, according to the two people who said Favorov recounted the discussion to them.
    These conversations were recounted to AP by Dale W. Perry, an American who is a former business partner of Favorov. He told AP in an interview that Favorov described the meeting to him soon after it happened and that Favorov perceived it to be a shakedown. Perry, who is no relation to the energy secretary, is the managing partner of Energy Resources of Ukraine, which currently has business agreements to import natural gas and electricity to Ukraine.
    According to Dale Perry and the other person, Favorov said Parnas told him Trump planned to remove U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch and replace her with someone more open to aiding their business interests.
    Dale Perry told the AP he was so concerned about the efforts to change the management at Naftogaz and to get rid of Yovanovitch that he reported what he had heard to Suriya Jayanti, a State Department foreign service officer stationed at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv who focuses on the energy industry.
    What have we learned since the initial reporting of the President attempting to solicit support from a foreign government that relies on American aid in an attempt to take down a political rival?

    • We learned that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was in on the phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky.[4] Last week he denied knowing anything about the whistleblower complaint, however he has recently changed his tune following reporting indicating that he was in on the phone call.[5]
    • We have learned that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Attorney General William Barr have been involved in President Trump's plot to try to rewrite the history of the 2016 US presidential election and Russian election interference.[6]
    • We have learned that President Trump pressed the Australian Prime Minister to work with Attorney General Barr to discredit the Mueller report.[7]
    • We have learned that AG Barr discussed the FBI Russia investigation with UK intelligence[8] and that President Trump personally called Prime Minister Boris Johnson for help to discredit the Mueller report.[9]
    • Congress has filed several subpoenas[10] including the President's personal attorney Rudy Guiliani for acting as an agent of the President in a scheme to advance his personal political interests by abusing the power of the Office of the President.[11] Guiliani has since hired a lawyer to represent him in the Ukraine scandal that's unfolding.[12]


    1) United States District Court Southern District of New York - United States of America v. Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman, David Correia, and Andrey Kukushkin
    2) NPR - Meet The Businessman Helping Giuliani Try To Find Dirt On Democrats In Ukraine
    3) Associated Press - Profit, not politics: Trump allies sought Ukraine gas deal
    4) Wall Street Journal - Pompeo Took Part in Ukraine Call, Official Says
    5) BBC - Trump impeachment: Pompeo confirms listening in on Ukraine call
    6) The Guardian - New reports reveal wider role for Barr and Pompeo in impeachment scandal
    7) New York Times - Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins
    The Guardian - William Barr discussed FBI Russia inquiry with UK intelligence
    9) The Times - Donald Trump impeachment: President called Boris Johnson for help to discredit Mueller inquiry
    10) Fox News - Impeachment probe rapidly widens as Dems fire off subpoenas, set testimony
    11) Reuters - U.S. Democrats subpoena Trump lawyer Giuliani in impeachment probe
    12) Axios - Giuliani hires attorney to represent him in Ukraine investigation
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  8. #10408

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Read the indictment like I did or shut up about it.
    Can you state unequivocally that Guiliani and/or Trump has nothing to do with Committees 1-3 listed in the indictment?
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    The significance of a phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky
    In a phone call on July 25 2019 with newly elected Ukrainian President Zelensky, President Trump attempted to solicit the support of a foreign government and may be in violation of Federal Campaign Finance Laws.[1] When President Zelensky asked about military aid to combat Russia, Trump immediately segued the conversation into requesting an investigation against one of his political opponents. President Trump repeatedly made requests including opening up an investigation into former Vice-Pesident Joe Biden and his role in the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor that Trump claims was supposedly unfairly shut down by Biden because he supposedly feared his son was being investigated.
    This is a complete mischaracterization of events. Following Ukraine's revolution and Russia's annexation of Crimea, Ukrainian President Poroshenko was dealing with corruption scandals. Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin was a discredited individual who was leading an investigation into corruption. The corruption was staggering, for example following assistance from the International Monetary Fund a $1.8 billion loan to help the Ukrainian banking system disappeared offshore in accounts owned by a Ukrainian Oligarch.[2] At one point Shokin fired prosecutors who were working on corruption cases against corrupt officials.[3] Following pressure from Western Allies and the Obama administration the Ukrainian parliament overwhelmingly voted to fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. The decision was celebrated by Western Allies that were providing financial support to Ukraine including the European Union to defend themselves from Russia.[4] Moreover, in his most recent interview former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuri Lutsenko debunked President Trump's conspiracy that Biden forced the firing of Shokin to protect his son, Hunter Biden, who had been working in Ukraine. Prosecutor General Lutsenko stated that "“[f]rom the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” and added “Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival.”[5]
    Days before his conversation with Ukrainian leader Zelensky the Trump administration suddenly froze aid allocated to Ukraine.[6]
    The White House has attempted to mislead the public by claiming that aid was frozen due to corruption, however NPR obtained a letter from the Pentagon that certified Ukraine had taken action to decrease corruption 2 months before President Trump blocked aid.[7] A month before this phone call in June the Pentagon announced plans to provide $250 million to Ukraine in security cooperation funds for things such as training and equipment in an attempt to build the capacity of Ukraine's armed forces following Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine.[8] The State Department announced plans to provide $141 million in aid.[9]
    So why are the United States and Western Allies sending aid to Ukraine? In 1994 former Soviet Union member states including Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum. It was a diplomatic memorandum under which Ukraine removed all Soviet-era nuclear weapons and signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. In return for these concessions the former Soviet state consecrated the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine as an independent state by applying the principles in a Cold War era treaty signed by 35 states including the Soviet Union. Russia violated this agreement in 2014 when they invaded Ukraine.[10]
    Since this story broke President Trump has threatened the whistleblower and has tweeted a quote about civil war if he is impeached.
    Following the phone call a whistleblower from DNI filed a complaint that stated President Trump was "using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the US 2020 election," characterizing the conduct as a "serious or flagrant problem, abuse, or violation of law". President Trump has been attempting to cover all of this up.[11] A Trump appointed Inspector General detailed his concerns in letters where he stated that the whistleblower complaint being kept from Congress was both urgent and “relates to one of the most important and significant of the (Director of National Intelligence)’s responsibilities to the American people.”[12] President Trump attempted to block the whistleblower and called it fake news.[13]
    President Trump endangered the whistleblower by claiming he committed treason for notifying the authorities of the President asking a foreign nation to interfere with the 2020 election.[14] Moreover, the President quoted and tweeted about a civil war if impeachment occurred which may be in violation of:[15]
    18 U.S. Code § 2383 Rebellion or insurrection
    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    1) Washington Post - How Trump’s Ukraine call could violate campaign finance laws
    2) Reuters - Corruption in Ukraine is so bad, a Nigerian prince would be embarrassed
    3) Kyiv Post - Demonstrators protest Shokin’s firing of anti-corruption prosecutors
    4) New York Times - Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance
    5) Washington Post - Former Ukraine prosecutor says Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything’
    6) Wall Street Journal - Trump Put Hold on Military Aid Ahead of Phone Call With Ukraine’s President
    7) The Hill - Pentagon letter certified Ukraine had taken action to decrease corruption before White House blocked aid
    Military Times - Russia’s conflict with Ukraine: An explainer
    9) Defense News - Here’s what you need to know about the US aid package to Ukraine that Trump delayed
    10) Radio Free Europe: Radio Liberty - Explainer: The Budapest Memorandum And Its Relevance To Crimea
    11) BBC - White House 'tried to cover up details of Trump-Ukraine call'
    12) PBS - Read what the inspector general said about the ‘urgent’ whistleblower concern
    13) Global News - Trump admin blocks ‘urgent’ whistleblower complaint from Congress
    14) BBC - Trump impeachment: Whistleblower 'endangered' by Trump criticism
    15) Cornell Law School - 18 U.S. Code § 2383.
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  10. #10410

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    Huh, interesting.
    From the recent indictment of Guiliani's associates Parnas and Fruman we have learned that former Congressman Pete Sessions was being funded by these two men as they tried to influence American politics.
    Former Texas representative Pete Sessions lost his re-election bid during the 2018 midterms.[1]
    A former member of Congress who pushed for political changes in Ukraine that aligned with Rudy Giuliani’s investigative efforts there got millions of dollars in political support from a pro-Trump super PAC financed in part by Giuliani allies.
    The more than $3 million that the group, America First Action, spent supporting former Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) included huge ad buys that appear to have pushed the boundaries of laws restricting super PAC coordination with political campaigns, according to a Daily Beast review of federal campaign finance and television broadcasting records. And they could severely complicate the former congressman’s attempt to win back office in 2020.
    The expenditures made by America First Action came during the 2018 election cycle, during which Sessions was fighting desperately to hold on to his House seat in a race he would go on to lose to Democrat Colin Allred. The PAC, which has President Donald Trump’s official imprimatur, has raised millions of dollars to fulfill that task. And during that election season, $325,000 of that came from a company called Global Energy Producers LLC, a firm run by Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman.
    The Soviet-born businessmen were, at the time of their donation to the PAC, helping Giuliani solicit dirt on President Donald Trump’s political opponents from officials in Ukraine. That work, which is now at the center of an impeachment inquiry against the president, included trying to get the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, removed from her post on grounds that she was badmouthing Trump.
    Pete Sessions is running for Congress again following his re-election loss in Dallas during the 2018 midterms. He is running in a different district to replace a Republican congressman retiring in a GOP stronghold.[2]
    It should also be noted that Pete Sessions served as the Chairman of the House Rules Committee and tried to block sanctions against Russia in 2017.[3]

    1) The Daily Beast - A PAC Backed by Giuliani Henchmen Spent Millions for Member Who Targeted Ukraine Ambassador
    2) Associated Press - Former GOP congressman Pete Sessions eyeing 2020 comeback
    3) Bussiness Insider - House Republican leader balks at Russia sanctions bill over concerns it would harm Texas energy companies
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  11. #10411

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    What have we learned since the initial reporting of the President attempting to solicit support from a foreign government that relies on American aid in an attempt to take down a political rival? President Trump, Attorney General Barr, Secretary of State Pompeo, and Rudy Guiliani have been plotting to discredit the Mueller Report.

    • We learned that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was in on the phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky.[1] Last week he denied knowing anything about the whistleblower complaint, however he has recently changed his tune following reporting indicating that he was in on the phone call.[2]
    • We have learned that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Attorney General William Barr have been involved in President Trump's plot to try to rewrite the history of the 2016 US presidential election and Russian election interference.[3]
    • We have learned that President Trump pressed the Australian Prime Minister to work with Attorney General Barr to discredit the Mueller report.[4]
    • We have learned that AG Barr discussed the FBI Russia investigation with UK intelligence[5] and that President Trump personally called Prime Minister Boris Johnson for help to discredit the Mueller report.[6]
    • Congress has filed several subpoenas[7] including the President's personal attorney Rudy Guiliani for acting as an agent of the President in a scheme to advance his personal political interests by abusing the power of the Office of the President.[8] Guiliani has since hired a lawyer to represent him in the Ukraine scandal that's unfolding.[9]
    • While the President of the United States has threatened to arrest Congressional house leaders for investigating the President's abuse of power[10] and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has refused to comply with Congress' Impeachment inquiry,[11] however 2 State Department officials rebuked Secretary Pompeo and have agreed to testify.[12]


    1) Wall Street Journal - Pompeo Took Part in Ukraine Call, Official Says
    2) BBC - Trump impeachment: Pompeo confirms listening in on Ukraine call
    3) The Guardian - New reports reveal wider role for Barr and Pompeo in impeachment scandal
    4) New York Times - Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins
    5) The Guardian - William Barr discussed FBI Russia inquiry with UK intelligence
    6) The Times - Donald Trump impeachment: President called Boris Johnson for help to discredit Mueller inquiry
    7) Fox News - Impeachment probe rapidly widens as Dems fire off subpoenas, set testimony
    Reuters - U.S. Democrats subpoena Trump lawyer Giuliani in impeachment probe
    9) Axios - Giuliani hires attorney to represent him in Ukraine investigation
    10) New York Times - Trump Seeks Whistle-Blower’s Identity
    11) The Hill - Pompeo rejects Dem demands for officials' testimony
    12) The Independent - Trump administration officials agree to testify about Ukraine call for impeachment investigation
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  12. #10412

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    The entire American intelligence apparatus - the leaders whom the President hand picked, all warned of continued sophisticated election interference in 2020 from foreign state actors including Russia. Yet Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell and some of his Republican colleagues refuse to act.[1]
    Robert Mueller sat before Congress this week warning that the Russia threat “deserves the attention of every American.” He said “the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in our election is among the most serious” challenges to American democracy he has ever seen. “They are doing it as we sit here, and they expect to do it during the next campaign,” he warned, adding that “much more needs to be done in order to protect against these intrusions, not just by the Russians but others as well.”
    Not three hours after Mueller finished testifying, Mark Warner (D-Va.), vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, went to the Senate floor to request unanimous consent to pass legislation requiring presidential campaigns to report to the FBI any offers of assistance from agents of foreign governments.
    Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) was there to represent her leader’s interests. “I object,” she said.
    Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) attempted to move a bill that would require campaigns to report to the FBI contributions by foreign nationals.
    “I object,” said Hyde-Smith.
    Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) tried to force action on bipartisan legislation, written with Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and supported by Sens. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) and Bill Cassidy (R-La.), protecting lawmakers from foreign cyberattacks. “The majority leader, our colleague from Kentucky, must stop blocking this common-sense legislation and allow this body to better defend itself against foreign hackers,” he said.
    “I object,” repeated Hyde-Smith.
    The next day, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), the minority leader, asked for the Senate to pass the Securing America’s Federal Elections Act, already passed by the House, that would direct $600 million in election assistance to states and require backup paper ballots.
    McConnell himself responded this time, reading from a statement, his chin melting into his chest, his trademark thin smile on his lips. “It’s just a highly partisan bill from the same folks who spent two years hyping up a conspiracy theory about President Trump and Russia,” he said. “Therefore, I object.” McConnell also objected to another attempt by Blumenthal to pass his bill.
    Pleaded Schumer: “I would suggest to my friend the majority leader: If he doesn’t like this bill, let’s put another bill on the floor and debate it.”
    But McConnell has blocked all such attempts, including:
    A bipartisan bill requiring Facebook, Google and other Internet companies to disclose purchasers of political ads, to identify foreign influence.
    A bipartisan bill to ease cooperation between state election officials and federal intelligence agencies.
    A bipartisan bill imposing sanctions on any entity that attacks a U.S. election.
    A bipartisan bill with severe new sanctions on Russia for its cybercrimes. McConnell has prevented them all from being considered — over and over again. This is the same McConnell who, in the summer of 2016, when briefed by the CIA along with other congressional leaders on Russia’s electoral attacks, questioned the validity of the intelligence and forced a watering down of a warning letter to state officials about the threat, omitting any mention of Russia.
    On Tuesday, FBI Director Christopher Wray — Trump’s FBI director — told the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Russians “haven’t been deterred enough” and are “absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections.”
    This year, National Intelligence Director Dan Coats — Trump’s intelligence director — told the Senate Intelligence Committee that “foreign actors will view the 2020 U.S. elections as an opportunity to advance their interests. We expect them to refine their capabilities and add new tactics.”
    And on Thursday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a bipartisan reportfinding that “Russian activities demand renewed attention to vulnerabilities in U.S. voting infrastructure.”

    1) Washington Post - Mitch McConnell is a Russian asset
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  13. #10413

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    "It was a PERFECT call" according to Trump.
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  14. #10414

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    18 U.S. Code § 2383 Rebellion or insurrection
    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


    Also, my signature.
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  15. #10415

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    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  16. #10416

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    And on Thursday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a bipartisan reportfinding that “Russian activities demand renewed attention to vulnerabilities in U.S. voting infrastructure.”
    1) Washington Post - Mitch McConnell ....”

    There’s absolutely no risk to the voting infrastructure. CNN repeatedly told me so when Trump said the election was rigged. I think Anderson Cooper and friends may have even laughed at the suggestion.

  17. #10417

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post


    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

    Are you calling all voters accomplices? So those that don’t vote at all can sit there guilt free. Hmmm. I’ve never seen it that way. So here’s the new motto: Don’t vote - it’s the only honourable thing to do.
    Last edited by KC; 11-10-2019 at 11:19 AM.

  18. #10418

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    Ha. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

    US to deploy thousands of extra troops
    See below:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50021138

  19. #10419

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    Trump was so eager to pull out the 50 military personnel training and assisting the thousands of Kurdish fighters protecting US bases, guarding ISIS prisoners and attacking ISIS locations.

    If Trump was so eager to bring home troops, he could have brought 500 back from Japan, just 1 percent of the 50,000 that the US has stationed there.

    But of course, Obama did not send troops to Japan, other white Presidents did.
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  20. #10420

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    ISIS thanks Trump for freeing their fighters that were held in prison.

    Isis militants break out of prison in Syria after bombing by Turkey
    Escape comes after Trump cleared way for Erdogan to launch offensive on Kurds

    Five Isis militants have broken out of a prison in northern Syria after Turkish shelling nearby, a spokesman in the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) has said.


    The detainees escaped from a prison in Qamishli city, Marvan Qamishlo said.

    It came as Isis claimed responsibility for a car bomb attack in Qwamishli that killed three people.


    On Thursday, a Kurdish official warned that Isis detainees could break out of detention as Kurdish-led security forces confront the Turkish offensive and their ability to guard detainees is weakened.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...box=1570810300


    Trump: We defeated ISIS '100 percent'
    https://www.politico.com/video/2019/...s-syria-068924

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    Meanwhile, Trump continues to lose in the courts. Maybe he should try hitting up Mexico again.

    Federal judge says Trump's use of emergency funds to build wall is unlawful
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/polit...nds/index.html

  22. #10422

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    Once is a mistake, twice is a coincidence. Three times and we've got a rogue agent in the White House.

    White House accidentally sends Ukraine talking points to Democrats again

    The White House accidentally sent Democrats a list of talking points related to ex-Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s Friday House deposition, two sources with knowledge of the email told The Hill, the second time in a month the administration has sent its Ukraine talking points to Democrats.


    The email included guidance for Republicans seeking to defend the president from potentially damaging witness testimony from an ambassador who was removed from her post in May under controversial circumstances.


    In copies of the guidance shared with The Hill, the White House encouraged Republicans to adopt a series of messages designed to turn the tables back on Democrats, including attacks on House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff’s (D-Calif.) handling of the investigation.


    Yovanovitch told House lawmakers that she was removed after “a concerted campaign" against her from President Trump and his allies.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...jUN4EFkYAByCOw

  23. #10423

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    ^ Nope, you just have idiots in the WH who can't do even a simple communication without screwing it up.
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  24. #10424

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    HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Trump loses appeal, must turn over tax documents to House
    WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court ruled Friday that U.S. President Donald Trump’s financial records must be turned over to the House of Representatives.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said that lawmakers should get the documents they have subpoenaed from Mazars USA. The firm has provided accounting services to Trump. The House Committee on Oversight and Reform subpoenaed records from Mazars in April. They include documents from 2011 to 2018 that the House wants for investigation into the president’s reporting of his finances and potential conflicts of interest.

    In a 2-1 ruling, the appeals court batted away Trump’s legal claims.

    “Contrary to the President’s arguments, the Committee possesses authority under both the House Rules and the Constitution to issue the subpoena, and Mazars must comply,”
    Global News: Trump loses appeal, must turn over tax documents to House.
    https://globalnews.ca/news/6021357/t...-appeal-house/
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    Friday's 5 court rulings against President Donald Trump

    President Donald Trump has relentlessly pushed to build a border wall and tighten immigration restrictions. He's also fought efforts to acquire his tax returns.

    On Friday, five federal courts rejected arguments by Trump and his administration on all three fronts.
    It was a shocking day, as the President lost on both the personal front -- keeping his tax returns from congressional Democrats who might use them in their impeachment inquiry -- and on immigration, the policy area at the center of his agenda.
    Here's a brief breakdown of the five rulings -- and one dissent:
    Tax returns -- DC Circuit Court of Appeals
    In a 2-1 ruling, the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit rejected Trump's attempt to stop his accounting firm, Mazars USA, from turning over eight years of financial records to House Democrats.
    Border wall -- Western District of Texas
    Judge David Briones said Trump's national emergency declaration to build a border wall is unlawful, and appears poised to block the use of those funds.

    Immigration green card regulations -- Southern District of New York
    Three federal judges blocked efforts to make it more difficult for immigrants who rely on public assistance to obtain legal status -- the so-called "public charge" rule.
    The first ruling came from US District Judge George B. Daniels, who called it "repugnant to the American Dream."
    Immigration green card regulations -- Eastern District of Washington
    In Spokane, Washington, Judge Rosanna Malouf Peterson was also unimpressed with the rule from the Department of Homeland Security.
    "There are serious questions going to the merits regarding whether DHS has acted in an arbitrary and capricious manner in formulating the Public Charge Rule," Peterson wrote.
    She suggested the department's proposal was based in an "unmooring from its Congressionally delegated authority."
    Peterson also said states would see "a wide variety of predictable harms" to the health care system and the health of residents.
    "The harms to children, including U.S. citizen children, from reduced access to medical care, food assistance, and housing support ... will compound over time," she wrote.
    Immigration green card regulations -- Northern District of California
    Not to be outdone, Judge Phyllis J. Hamilton invoked Emma Lazarus' iconic poem on the Statue of Liberty's pedestal in her ruling blocking the Public Charge rule.
    It was a response to acting US Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Ken Cuccinelli, who tweaked the famous poem -- whose words, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free," have long been associated with immigration to the US and the nation's history as a haven -- as part of his defense of the regulation in August.
    Cuccinelli had said: "Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge."
    And a friendly judge in DC
    One bright spot for Trump came back in Washington, where Judge Neomi Rao dissented in the tax records case, blasting House Democrats in no uncertain terms as operating a personal inquiry against the President under the guise of legislative oversight.
    "Allegations of illegal conduct against the President cannot be investigated by Congress except through impeachment," she wrote.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/polit...rge/index.html
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    Obviously all part of Hillary's Deep State conspiracy, run out of her secret bunker under a pizza parlor.

  27. #10427

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    Sheppard Smith leaves Fox News.

    The sycophants leave the sinking USS Trump
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  28. #10428

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    Shep Smith decides that the truth, even a right wing version of it, has no place at Faux "News".

    Why Shep Smith finally walked out of Fox News for good

    Last month Shep Smith decided that he had simply had enough.


    With President Trump actively distorting the truth and many of his own colleagues helping him do it, the Fox News star prided himself on anchoring a newscast that countered the network's pro-Trump opinion shows.


    The way Smith saw it, he was making sure that accurate information was getting on Fox's air.


    "I wonder," he told a Time magazine reporter last year, "if I stopped delivering the facts, what would go in its place in this place that is most watched, most listened, most viewed, most trusted? I don't know."

    But he had had enough. In September, according to a well-placed source, he went to Fox News management and asked to be let out of his long-term contract. Tensions with the opinion shows were the breaking point.


    Executives at the network leaned on him to stay, but to no avail. On Friday afternoon he announced his departure on the air, then exited the building immediately, clearly emotional about saying goodbye to his television home of twenty years.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/media...ith/index.html


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    I don't get it. Shepard's Smith bought into the whole Trump.propaganda machine. Chris Wallace on the other hand kept his journalistic integrity at Fox.

    I am surprised that CNN thinks that Smith had any journalistic morals.
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  30. #10430

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    He was one of the few at Faux that would occasionally call Trump's ******** what it was. And as time went on, he called more and more.

  31. #10431

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    We're a few days away from "Rudy who?"
    Donald Trump distances himself from Rudy Giuliani: 'He has been my attorney'


    " President Donald Trump sought Friday to distance himself from attorney Rudy Giuliani, even casting doubts about whether the former New York mayor is still his lawyer.


    Asked whether Giuliani remained his personal attorney, Trump said: “I don’t know.”"

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ey/3945806002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    We're a few days away from "Rudy who?"
    Donald Trump distances himself from Rudy Giuliani: 'He has been my attorney'


    " President Donald Trump sought Friday to distance himself from attorney Rudy Giuliani, even casting doubts about whether the former New York mayor is still his lawyer.


    Asked whether Giuliani remained his personal attorney, Trump said: “I don’t know.”"

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ey/3945806002/
    Trump will throw Rudy under a bus. Then Rudy will throw Trump under a bus. A den of vipers will eat their own to survive.

    They say that the most dangerous place to be, is between Giuliani and a microphone...

    Rudy will soon be seen on “Dancing With the Stars”

    Remember that Trump boasted that he would have only the best people and he is a very stable genius.

    Soon his financial records will be investigated and his lies about his wealth and who he is getting money from will stun the nation.

    Trump has set the new standard of deplorable behavior that will tear apart the Republican party and possibly create a rebellion if Trump continues to promote the lie that he is being overthrown as part of some massive conspiracy against him. He is leading to a scorched earth policy as he did against the Obama legacy.

    He will be remembered for his treasonous actions and self serving interests as THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER and compared to Benedict Arnold, Nixon and Joseph McCarthy in history books. Trumpism will be a psychological term and students will study law and the Constitution with a dark chapter on Trump and how he lied and bullied his way to the presidency.


    Now that US politics has sunk to the bottom of the barrel, we can only hope that the nation will rise to the occasion and become a better and more perfect union. It will take decades to heal but I trust that leaders and the public at large will demand to fix the corruption at every level, stop election meddling, get foreign money, corporate money and dark money out of politics. No one or group should be able to contribute more than $1,000 per year and elections should be more fair and not cost billions and billions. Laws will be passed to prevent another self styled dictatorship to form that flaunts the law and the Constitution.

    I pray for a better America.
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    From Jim Wright's Stonekettle Station via Facebook.



    "Others may want to come in and fight for one side or the other. Let them!"


    This is literally how we ended up with jihadists fighting in Afghanistan, terrorists backed by Osama bin Laden, who became al-Qaeda, who then turned their hate on the rest of the world and attacked US. Abandoning our allies to slaughter, abandoning an entire region to war and terror, is how 3000 Americans ended up dead under falling towers and how as a result we ended up at war IN THE FIRST GODDAMNED PLACE.


    And the worst part isn't that Trump is doing this because he's embraced the simpleton conservative foreign policy of Might Makes Right and then after you've blown up an entire country you just walk away expecting the survivors to create democracy whole cloth from the ashes. No, he's doing this because he was backed into a corner by his own staggering blunders with other foreign leaders and he needed a way to shift the national dialog off impeachment. So he did what he always does when faced with his own inadequacies and impulsively made something else worse.


    It's not so much a deliberate attempt at distraction on Trump's part, because he's just not that clever, as it is the panicked thrashing of an uneducated and inexperienced amatuer who really has no idea of what he's doing and whose entire worldview is based on the bombastic talking points of every dive-bar blowhard.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1

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    Pretty much sums it up...
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    Meanwhile, one of the generals Trump claims to be smarter than speaks out.

    Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies'

    A retired four-star Marine general on Sunday bluntly criticized President Donald Trump over the ongoing Turkish military offensive in northern Syria, saying, "There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies."


    Gen. John Allen, the former commander of American forces in Afghanistan and former special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS under the Obama administration, told CNN the unfolding crisis in Syria was "completely foreseeable" and "the US greenlighted it."


    "There was no chance (Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan) Erdogan would keep his promise, and full blown ethnic cleansing is underway by Turkish supported militias," he said. "This is what happens when Trump follows his instincts and because of his alignment with autocrats."

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/polit...ump/index.html

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    Meanwhile, while everyone has been looking at Syria and Turkey.

    North Korea breaks off nuclear talks, blaming US team's 'old attitude'

    North Korea’s lead negotiator has said that working-level nuclear talks in Sweden between officials from Pyongyang and Washington have broken off, dashing prospects for an end to months of stalemate.


    The North’s chief nuclear negotiator, Kim Myong-gil, who spent much of Saturday in Stockholm talks with an American delegation, cast the blame on what he portrayed as US inflexibility, saying the other side’s negotiators would not “give up their old viewpoint and attitude”.


    “The negotiations have not fulfilled our expectation and finally broke off,” Kim told reporters outside the North Korean embassy on Saturday night, speaking through an interpreter.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-old-attitude

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    Scary about NK because Trump could use a war to distract the US population. Keep this situation in his back pocket until/if needed. Stretch out the talks let everything flounder and then he’ll have an excuse.


    In other news:

    Are Fox News and rightwing media making plans for a post-Trump future?
    Some Fox anchors have become more stridently critical of Trump following the revelations of the impeachment inquiry
    Luke O'Neil
    Fri 11 Oct 2019


    https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...t-trump-future



    Schiff says he 'should've been much more clear' about whistleblower contact
    https://nypost.com/2019/10/13/schiff...lower-contact/



    Bill Barr's meeting with Fox News chairman should be investigated (opinion) - CNN

    “As Rep. Harley Rouda, a California Democrat who serves on the House Oversight committee, bluntly declared on my SiriusXM radio show Friday: "What the hell is the attorney general of the United States doing meeting with the head of Fox? And for what purpose could that possibly be, especially in light of the fact this is happening exactly at the same time the president of the United States is saying Fox News isn't being kind enough to him?"

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/opini...lah/index.html

    Trump abandoning Kurds could cost support of evangelical Christians | World news | The Guardian

    ““It is very possible that the American withdrawal from the region will lead to the extinction of Christianity from the region,” Ashty Bahro, former director of the Evangelical Alliance of Kurdistan, told the Christianity Today news outlet.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ristians-syria
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    Trump should investigate Hunter Biden because he was appointed by President George W. Bush to the board of directors of Amtrak; he was on the board of Amtrak from 2006 to 2009.

    Everyone know that President George W. Bush ( a Never Trumper ) is part of the Deep State and was recently seen with his mistress, ED, the first Lady of the Deep State





    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden
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    Trump supporters show video at Trump's Doral Golf Course of Trump committing mass murder in a Church



    Fake video of Trump shooting media and political opponents shown at conference: New York Times
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce/3972884002/
    Journalists are calling on President Donald Trump and his campaign to denounce a video edited to depict Trump violently murdering news organizations and political opponents.


    The video was played at a conference hosted by a pro-Trump group at his Miami resort last week, according to a report in The New York Times. It includes the logo for Trump's 2020 re-election campaign.


    In the video, which is an edited scene from the film "Kingsman: The Secret Service," Trump enters a "Church of Fake News" and opens fire on members of the congregation, who have various news organizations' logos or the faces of Democratic lawmakers and other critics superimposed onto their bodies.


    Trump proceeds to shoot, stab and set fire to the late Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., 2020 presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., and 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama.

    Several news outlets are depicted being killed in the rampage, including Politico, NPR, HuffPost, The Washington Post, Slate and CNN.


    The White House Correspondents' Association and CNN called on Trump to denounce the video.




    "We have previously told the President his rhetoric would incite violence. Now we call on him and everybody associated with this conference to denounce this video and affirm that violence has no place in our society," Jonathan Karl, the president of WHCA, said in a statement.


    Trump has repeatedly referred to members of the American press as the "enemy of the people," and attacked members of the press at his campaign rallies.

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    One of the better analysis I have read on the current tragic state of affairs in Syria:

    Defense one: Trump made his real Syria mistake months ago

    https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/201...hs-ago/160583/

    ...
    Although much of Washington is red-hot with fury about Trump’s order to pull back from Kurdish territory and three outposts along the border, U.S. soldiers should not have been left in the area. With Turkish forces moving south, Kurdish forces preparing their defenses, and Assad-regime troops heading north and east, U.S. troops were stuck in an untenable situation had no option but to exfiltrate out of the kill zone. Indeed, it would have been a dereliction of duty had a numerically smaller U.S. force been ordered to stand their ground.
    ...
    However, like most discussions, this analysis still focuses on a short time frame, ignoring the complex web of decision that landed us here. President Obama, famously failed to enforce his red line (precisely for the reasons Trump is now being chastised for, I.e., to avoid another endless war) in September 2013.

    A series of signals showing US’s lack of interest to start direct military involvement in Syria, motivated Russia to decide to provide military support to Assad and Iran starting in September 2015.

    the rest is a tragic history.

    of course, political hacks try to put the blame on only one guy:

    Hillary Clinton, who was Obama’s Secretary of State, tweets: This sickening horror is one man’s fault.
    https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/s...659300354?s=21

    Glen Greenwald’s response:
    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...482674176?s=21

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    Are you happy now, Trump supporters?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp
    President Trump isn’t the first American leader to turn his back on foreign friends who were counting on U.S. assistance: President Dwight D. Eisenhower did it in Hungary in 1956; President John F. Kennedy in Cuba in 1961; and President Gerald Ford in South Vietnam in 1975. But no previous chief executive has ever sold out the United States’ allies as nonchalantly and unnecessarily as Trump has done with the Syrian Kurds.

    At least with Eisenhower, Kennedy and Ford, there was a good reason they failed to come to the aid of freedom fighters: Doing so would have embroiled the United States in costly conflicts. Trump and his apologists would like to pretend that’s also the case today — that Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria to avoid a war with Turkey. But there is scant chance that Turkish troops would have invaded northern Syria if U.S. troops were standing in the way. That is why President Recep Tayyip Erdogan asked Trump to move the U.S. forces — and Trump, for reasons that remain*mysterious, obliged. (Trump himself*admitted*in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

    The consequences of the American pullout are proving to be every bit as catastrophic as most observers — and Trump’s own aides — had feared. On “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said that ever since coming to office about two months ago, he had been urging the Turks not to invade Syria. “We cited all the reasons that are now playing out,” he said. “The biggest being the likely release of ISIS fighters from these camps and prisons, not just that we see a humanitarian crisis emerging.”
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    Breaking News!

    OFFICIAL SAYS 50 AMERICAN TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS EFFECTIVELY HOSTAGE TO ERDOGAN
    Amid rising tensions, US said considering plan to remove nukes from Turkish base
    American military believed to house some 50 tactical nuclear bombs at Incirlik in southern Turkey, just 70 miles from the border with war-torn Syria

    The Times of Israel: Amid rising tensions, US said considering plan to remove nukes from Turkish base.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-r...-turkish-base/
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    The US-China trade war is starting to show some blind spots in corporate America.

    Corporations have been bending backwards to accommodate Chinese demands for some time.

    here is a collection of some recent actions: https://twitter.com/noahpinion/statu...516374528?s=21

    But nowhere the compromise has been more evident than the “woke” NBA. They don’t want to visit White House under Trump, but on taking China’s money, well, here is what LeBron has to say: https://twitter.com/bengolliver/stat...680020480?s=21

    And he is not alone. There are reports, the NBA has removed people from games “in US” with critical messages on China....let that sink in...

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/us/nb...rnd/index.html

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    Below, a slightly older article than the one above, but with some interesting information.

    Appears to be another case of Trump not being the deepest thinker in terms of understanding consequences to his actions.

    US rethinking the 50-plus nuclear weapons it keeps in Turkey — Quartz

    “One reason to be worried is that the recent shift in US strategy launched by Trump appears to have caught the US military establishment by surprise. It’s not clear how prepared the US is to deal with the knock-on effects of the about-face,...”

    https://qz.com/1727158/us-rethinking...eps-in-turkey/


    Turkey must be
    thinking of the Bomb
    WAYNE MCLEAN
    While NATO wobbles and strongmen
    prosper, a newly authoritarian Turkey
    might turn towards nuclear options.

    16 July 2018


    But Trump’s disdain for NATO threatens this arrangement. In fact, a 2015 Carnegie paper assessing Turkey’s nuclear posture argued that the most probable scenario under which Turkey would seek nuclear weapons would be a collapse of its relationships with NATO and the US.

    https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-in...-thinking-bomb


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    Don't worry, Trump will fix everything with Turkey.

    He is applying sanctions and tariffs.

    It worked with North Korea, right?
    It worked with Mexico, right?
    It worked with China, right?
    It worked with Russia, right?
    It worked with Iran, right?


    To Trump, he has only three tools in his tool chest
    1. Tariffs, he loves tariffs
    2. Sanctions
    3. A Trump Tower

    Make America Great Again!
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    Very interesting...

    https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/10/14/exposecnnpart1/"


    .Your trusted news"... yeah right

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupikhalon001 View Post
    Very interesting...

    https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/10/14/exposecnnpart1/"


    .Your trusted news"... yeah right

    Project Veritas



    RIGHT BIAS

    These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.



    • Overall, we rate Project Veritas Right Biased based on story selection that only favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to lack of sourcing and a few failed fact checks.


    Detailed Report

    Factual Reporting: MIXED
    Country: USA
    World Press Freedom Rank: USA 48/180
    History
    Founded in 2010, Project Veritas was created by James Edward O’Keefe III who is an American conservative political activist. He produces secretly recorded undercover audio and video encounters, some selectively edited to imply its subjects said things they did not, with figures and workers in academic, governmental and social service organizations, purporting to show abusive or allegedly illegal behavior by employees and/or representatives of those organizations. Project Veritas primarily targets liberals and liberal organizations.
    Funded by / Ownership
    Project Veritas is owned by James O’Keefe. Funding primarily comes from donations. However, most of these donations come from the Donor’s Trust. The purpose of the Donor’s Trust Fund is to “safeguard the intent of libertarian and conservative donors.” In other words, it allows the source to receive funds without disclosing who they come from. Needless to say, most funding for Project Veritas comes from conservative and libertarian organizations.
    Analysis / Bias
    In review, O’Keefe’s videos are edited in a way that makes them difficult to fact check. Often his information is debunked, but it is too late as the information has already been watched by thousands or more. In general, the narrative created by O’Keefe, whether edited or not is to portray liberals in a negative light. Further, President Trump often sources Project Veritas, such as this: President Trump Thanks Project Veritas Tech Investigations at White House Social Media Summit. The fact that the President endorses them can mean different things to different people, we are just sharing the fact that he does endorse them and nothing more. In general, all stories on Project Veritas advance the conservative agenda, while denigrating the left.
    A factual search reveals a few failed fact checks.


    Overall, we rate Project Veritas Right Biased based on story selection that only favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to lack of sourcing and a few failed fact checks. (11/16/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 8/24/2019)
    Source: https://www.projectveritas.com

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    Project Veritas: how fake news prize went to rightwing group beloved by Trump

    James O’Keefe’s organisation specialising in media stings received donations from Trump’s foundation but was caught red-handed peddling a false story





    Ed Pilkington in New York

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    Wed 29 Nov 2017 14.37 GMT





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    James O’Keefe, president of Project Veritas, refused to comment about his organisation’s apparent attempt to plant a fake story in the Washington Post. Photograph: Pablo Martinez Monsivais/APAt the unusually late hour of 9.04am on Monday morning, Donald Trump marked his return to Washington after Thanksgiving by announcing a big new idea. There should be a contest, he tweeted, to determine which media outlet should be awarded the “fake news trophy” for being “most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage”.

    US government uses Project Veritas video in trial of anti-Trump protesters




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    Just hours later, the first winner of the president’s new medal emerged, though the trophy holder was not quite as he had expected. Instead of CNN or one of the TV networks that Trump frequently assails, the award for scurrilous and deceitful practice went to someone much closer to home.
    On Monday afternoon, Project Veritas, the discredited rightwing attack organization run by James O’Keefe that specializes in sting operations against liberal groups and the established media, was itself thoroughly exposed. The Washington Post turned the spotlight that O’Keefe had tried to put on the newspaper back on him by disclosing a plot to dupe its reporters into publishing an entirely false story.
    The fake account was peddled by a woman named Jaime Phillips who claimed to have had an abortion when she was 15 after sexual encounters with the Republican senatorial candidate in Alabama, Roy Moore. Post reporters did their due diligence, grew suspicious of her narrative, and later watched her walking into the Project Veritas offices in New York.

    They also discovered a GoFundMe page under the name of Jaime Phillips in which she said she had accepted a job in New York “to work in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceit of the liberal MSM”. When these matters were put to O’Keefe in a filmed encounter, he refused to answer questions about the apparent attempt to plant a fake story on the Post presumably intended to undermine the paper’s earlier exposé of Moore’s alleged molestation of underage girls as young as 14.
    O’Keefe’s outing as a duplicitous purveyor of fake news – and an incompetent one at that – on the same day that Trump proposed his “fake news trophy” was profoundly ironic. All the more so, given the ties between the two men.

    Sign up to the Media Briefing: news for the news-makers




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    On 13 May 2015, a month before Trump launched his presidential campaign, his charitable foundation donated $10,000 to Project Veritas. This week ThinkProgress spotted that the foundation’s tax disclosure form for 2015 records a second payment of the same amount to the conservative group.
    By then O’Keefe had already acquired a criminal record – he was convicted in 2010 of entering federal property under false pretences. He had been attempting to sting the then Democratic senator from Louisiana, Mary Landrieu, but for his pains was rewarded with three years’ probation and a $1,500 fine.
    The underhand tactics that Project Veritas adopted in its notorious takedown of the progressive network Acorn and that it later applied to media organisations has attracted growing condemnation from unexpected quarters. In 2011 Blaze, the rightwing outlet founded by Glenn Beck, investigated O’Keefe’s treatment of National Public Radio and concluded that the editing of a secretly filmed video seemed “designed to intentionally lie or mislead about the material being presented”.
    But that didn’t stop Trump donating $20,000 to the group four years later. Nor did it prevent the then Republican presidential nominee from citing a Project Veritas video at his final debate with Hillary Clinton in October 2016, claiming it proved that Clinton and Barack Obama had hired thugs to cause violence at his campaign rallies.




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    Donald Trump cited a Project Veritas video in his final presidential debate with Hillary Clinton in Las Vegas in October 2016. Photograph: Jim Urquhart/ReutersAs if to underline the strength of the links, Trump invited O’Keefe to be one of his surprise guests at the televising of the debate.
    It may merely be a coincidence, but following Trump’s victory at the polls and his arrival in the White House, his arch supporter, the conservative radio host Bill Mitchell, came up with his own wheeze to trip up serious newspapers. “You know what we should do?” he said in a tweet in May this year. “Start flooding the NYTimes and WAPO tip lines with all kinds of crazy ‘leaks’. Then laugh when they print them!”
    That is not so far removed from what O’Keefe has been trying to do ever since. His first post-inauguration target was CNN in June. In another dubiously edited video, Project Veritas captured a CNN producer who worked in the medical unit talking about the network’s coverage of Trump’s ties to Russia – a subject the producer had no direct knowledge of or involvement in.
    Trump posted the video regardless on his Instagram account. The White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders, went further, exhorting all Americans to watch it. “Frankly everybody across the country take a look at it,” she said at a press briefing in response to a question from Breitbart News – an outlet which incidentally frequently reports in glowing terms the output of Project Veritas.
    After CNN came a similar story about the New York Times, and this week it was the turn of the Washington Post. The common thread between all these forays into the world of the “mainstream media” is their notable failure to land any killer punches.


    In response to the Post’s exposé of Project Veritas’ dishonesty, the group released on Tuesday what it claimed was a major investigation into the newspaper’s lies and biases. The worst it could point to was candid camera footage of a Post reporter wondering whether the paper had devoted too much effort to reporting Hurricane Irma, commenting on how opinionated its opinion pages were, and making the uncontroversial claim that the Wall Street Journal was “very conservative”.

    The self-inflicted bloody nose suffered by O’Keefe this week may not amount to a turning point in the war over fake news, but it was at least a moment. As Tom Fiedler, dean of Boston University’s college of communication and a former Miami Herald journalist, put it: “This was an opportunity for people who believe in the role of the media, who think there’s a difference between truth and ‘truthiness’, as Stephen Colbert calls it, to pump a fist in the air and say ‘Take that!’”
    It's weird that certain people trust random internet blogs with no intregerity, but swallow trump calling anyone who disagrees with him as fake news as believable. The guy couldn't tell the truth even if he wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    It's weird that certain people trust random internet blogs with no integrity, but swallow trump calling anyone who disagrees with him as fake news as believable.

    The guy couldn't tell the truth even if he wanted to.
    Trump has lived in a fake news bubble since he was born with a golden spoon in his mouth and his parents let him get away with everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupikhalon001 View Post
    Very interesting...

    https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/...xposecnnpart1/


    .Your trusted news"... yeah right
    Yup. Some more great hidden video from behind the scenes showing how CNN is in the business of telling stories and creating drama on-screen, and not actually in the business of reporting news.

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    On a related note, here is ABC News "reporting" shooting at the Turkey-Syria border, but the footage used is actually from a gun & military show held at a US range in 2017.

    https://gizmodo.com/abc-news-broadca...ctu-1839028685

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    using stock footage... that's your problem?

    What about Trumps recent rallies where he's encouraging violence against the media? You're okay with that of course... but using stock footage, Treason45!
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  53. #10453

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    You are OK with news outlets using old video footage from an American military demonstration in Kentucky, and presenting it as "violence breaking out at the Syrian border"?

    I'm not. The media needs to be truthful and held to account to do a better job at accurate reporting.

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    When will Trump pivot and become more presidential?

    The President needs to be truthful and held to account to do a better job at being less stupid
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  55. #10455

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    Very funny video of Trump proving that it's easy for anybody to act "Presidential":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VreDzjrE4m4

  56. #10456

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    gaslight
    obstruct
    project
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Very funny video of Trump proving that it's easy for anybody to act "Presidential":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VreDzjrE4m4
    In your small mind, you believe Trump's BS. The video shows that Trump has no idea what a real President says and does.

    If Trump spent less time on the golf courses or going to see his snowflake support group, he might read about Syria, the Kurds, the Turk, middle eastern history and prevented a war from breaking out and ISIS prisoners escaping.

    Trump stated that the ISIS fighters will go to Europe, (boy the French, Germans and Brits must love him for that) but fails to understand that the terrorists can get on a plane and be in the US within hours.

    Trump made such a fuss over how Obama handled Syria but Trump made a complete fuckup of the situation with just one act by pulling out troops.
    Advocating a better Edmonton through effective, efficient and economical transit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Some thoughts on the broader ramifications of the impeachment process:

    - I agree with commentators suggesting this is helpful to Elizabeth Warren's chances of becoming the Democratic Presidential candidate. Ian Bremmer of Eurasia group suggests Biden't son might become a liability for Biden (https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/statu...72348987183107)
    - China: Trump might be even more tempted to agree on a deal with China to create positive momentum leading up to election. Yesterday he suggested the deal "could happen sooner than you think"
    - Ukraine: definitely a loser. It has become a toxic country to associate with as both democrats and republicans are now entangled in controversies in Ukraine. With Europe trying to accommodate Russia recently (approving gas pipeline etc), Ukraine will be weaker in its dealing with Russia.
    - Limited military action: It is also possible to see a change of discussion via a limited military action. I noticed this morning reports that U.S. confirmed Syria has used chemical weapons in May. Not sure coincidence or not, but launching a few cruise missiles without risk of major retaliation (unlike dealing with Iran) seems plausible to me.
    So, looking back at this assessment from Sept. 29th:

    1- it looks like Hunter Biden is starting to become a liability. He say he used "poor judgment" receiving $50/month from Ukraine...so cute...: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...erview-burisma
    Elizabeth Warren now seems to have the highest odds of becoming the Democrats candidate: https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...crat-candidate

    2- On China: We seems to have a "phase one" agreement in the works.

    3- On Ukraine: here is Globe & Mail today: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...st-corruption/
    4- On Military action: Thankfully, Trump has managed to avoid falling in that trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Below, a slightly older article than the one above, but with some interesting information.

    Appears to be another case of Trump not being the deepest thinker in terms of understanding consequences to his actions.

    US rethinking the 50-plus nuclear weapons it keeps in Turkey — Quartz

    “One reason to be worried is that the recent shift in US strategy launched by Trump appears to have caught the US military establishment by surprise. It’s not clear how prepared the US is to deal with the knock-on effects of the about-face,...”

    https://qz.com/1727158/us-rethinking...eps-in-turkey/


    Turkey must be
    thinking of the Bomb
    WAYNE MCLEAN
    While NATO wobbles and strongmen
    prosper, a newly authoritarian Turkey
    might turn towards nuclear options.

    16 July 2018


    But Trump’s disdain for NATO threatens this arrangement. In fact, a 2015 Carnegie paper assessing Turkey’s nuclear posture argued that the most probable scenario under which Turkey would seek nuclear weapons would be a collapse of its relationships with NATO and the US.

    https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-in...-thinking-bomb


    Sorry to disappoint you, but this is not an accurate view.

    Turkey has been behaving poorly and has been using the Incirlik air base as a "hostage" for some time now.

    Following the attempted coup against Erdogan, Turkey cut off power to the air base: https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/polit...off/index.html

    Then as Turkey was rumored to want to buy Russian air defense systems, and US was threatening sanctions, Erdogan shot back that the fate of Incirlik would be at stake if US imposes sanctions: https://www.voanews.com/europe/key-u...sions-escalate

    Beside those incidents, Turkey has also used the threat of unleashing immigrants to Europe, as card in its various demands/negotiations with Europe.

    And on the situation in Syria, they did bomb near known US locations in northern Syria, to force them to leave. https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727

    It was/is unclear what US could/should do against a NATO ally, if their fire caused a casualty.

    The world is more complex than media portrays of an orange Hitler sitting and ordering various consequential decisions. Pentagon had concerns about safety of its personnel on the ground.

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