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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Tariff war heats up as Trump slaps Americans with $200B in new sales taxes.


    Donald Trump wiped nearly $1.5 TRILLION off global markets in a single tweet after threatening to double China trade tariffs
    Analysts have now pointed out that the President's message cost a staggering $13bn a word
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/903467...china-tariffs/



    Here's why Trump's trade war with China is a disaster for everyone else's economy too

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8907571.html
    It is so long since the era of protectionism, pre-Second World War, that it seems scarce believable that the two largest economic powers in the world are about to unleash a new one, but the mutual threats to escalate tariffs look serious.

    Everyone loses. American consumers lose access to the choice, technology and increasingly quality in Chinese products – in the form of 5G smartphones, let’s say. American workers and farmers lose out when Chinese markets are closed off to their exports – corn, poultry, minerals. Each group in each country has less to spend on each other’s imports, and the downward cycle begins.


    It may then be turbocharged by fresh retaliatory sanctions, maybe adding currency or exchange rate manipulation to the toxic mix, as we saw in the 1930s, years of great technological progress but economic wars, autarky and depression.


    This is not a private squabble. American and Chinese exporters will seek to shift their goods for cheap in other global markets. That dumping will depress prices, profits and employment everywhere – Australian farmers, German steel makers, Korean electronics, Brazilian miners. Those effects also feed off each other in new downward spirals. They too may retaliate to protect domestic producers.

    Now your MAGA hat will cost you 25% more
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    “why Trump's trade war with China is a disaster for everyone else's economy too”




    The above is a tough argument to make when facts like record gains in employment in Canada start to pop up.





    April jobs report: Economy added 263,000 jobs last months

    Economy added 263,000 jobs in April, unemployment falls to 3.6%, new 50-year low

    PAUL DAVIDSON | USA TODAY
    Updated 12:36 p.m. MDT May 3, 2019

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...th/3656949002/



    US-China trade war: How will tariffs hit shoppers, and can they work?

    How the trade war with China could hit you: Higher prices, lost jobs and falling stocks

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...rk/1164965001/


    Canada’s job numbers make history with biggest gain on record
    Bloomberg News Theophilos Argitis
    May 10, 2019


    https://business.financialpost.com/n...ment-rate-dips


    Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low

    By Nelson D. Schwartz
    May 3, 2019


    The unemployment rate fell to its lowest level in half a century last month, capping the longest streak of job creation in modern times and dispelling recession fears that haunted Wall Street at the start of the year.

    The Labor Department reported Friday that employers added 263,000 jobs in April, well above what analysts had forecast. The unemployment rate sank to 3.6 percent.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/b...ort-april.html
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    Good one Medwards.
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    KC wrote
    “why Trump's trade war with China is a disaster for everyone else's economy too”




    The above is a tough argument to make when facts like record gains in employment in Canada start to pop up.
    Ask Canadian farmers who are getting 15% less for their canola and face an unsure market due to a trade war while trying to figure out what to grow this year.
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    Drain Trump’s Slough!



    Definition of slough (Entry 1 of 5)

    1a : a place of deep mud or mire

    b or less commonly slew or slue \ ˈslü \
    (1) : SWAMP
    (2) : an inlet on a river
    also : BACKWATER
    (3) : a creek in a marsh or tide flat
    2 : a state of moral degradation or spiritual dejection


    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slough
    Bolding mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    KC wrote
    “why Trump's trade war with China is a disaster for everyone else's economy too”




    The above is a tough argument to make when facts like record gains in employment in Canada start to pop up.
    Ask Canadian farmers who are getting 15% less for their canola and face an unsure market due to a trade war while trying to figure out what to grow this year.
    Ask them what? Would they rather earn less or be among the unemployed?

    For decades employment / unemployment has been the generally accepted measure of successfully running a country.

    So, suddenly because a despicable leader is in place, you want to change the measure, raise the bar, game the results?

    In my view Trump shouldn’t get the credit for a lot of economic outcomes* and I’d argue that none of these leaders should be given a lot of credit for employment levels. However, the vast majority of people including experts regularly use it to judge leadership. So who am I, or you, to argue?


    * in my mind, whatever party is in power really doesn’t make much of a difference in the short term (unless they engage in war) and instead the big drivers are things like: entrepreneurial infrastructure, past education policy, macro trends, coincidental events in foreign countries, the central bank’s interest rate and inflation policies, technology cycles, commodity cycles, demographics, etc.
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    Nobody is talking about farmers being unemployed.

    The point is that the US - China trade war is causing huge upsets in the markets and great uncertainty. Farmers have to plan 6 or more months in advance, have to invest in equipment and make huge efforts to plant and harvest their crops. The financial risk at the best of times are high even with cooperative weather. A 15% drop in the canola Canadian agricultural market is huge and farmers are victims of Trump's ridiculous actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Nobody is talking about farmers being unemployed.

    The point is that the US - China trade war is causing huge upsets in the markets and great uncertainty. Farmers have to plan 6 or more months in advance, have to invest in equipment and make huge efforts to plant and harvest their crops. The financial risk at the best of times are high even with cooperative weather. A 15% drop in the canola Canadian agricultural market is huge and farmers are victims of Trump's ridiculous actions.
    And we all know that free trade deals often create net macro gains for economies. However, that doesn’t mean the gains are evenly distributed. Sectors, industries, and jobs are sacrificed in exchange for gains and employment expansion and/or wage expansion among the chosen winners. Then it’s assumed the losers will simply be absorbed into the winning sectors. However that’s in theory not in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    4 of my favorites







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    Sarah Sanders leads "mass purge" of White House reporters with new press-room rules
    New rules on press access, imposed by Sanders, could disqualify "almost the entire White House press corps"
    https://www.salon.com/2019/05/09/sar...ss-room-rules/

    Under the new rules, only journalists who have entered the White House grounds at least 90 days of the last 180 can renew their hard pass.

    Sanders has held just two press briefings this year and has instead held unscheduled “gaggles” in front of the White House.

    The White House has also limited access to events to just one journalist from each news organization and requires journalists to register days in advance.

    Trump, who lives at the White House but has spent more than 240 days at his personally-owned properties and traveling to events, might have trouble meeting the new standard himself.
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    Your good friend Kim Jong Un is.

    ‘Nobody’s happy’ about N. Korea missile launch, says Trump

    Thursday’s launches came hours after the US Special Representative on North Korea, Stephen Biegun, arrived in Seoul for talks with South Korean officials, in his first visit since the Hanoi summit.


    North Korea’s Rodong Sinmun newspaper, the mouthpiece of the ruling party, devoted its entire front page and half of page two to the launch on Friday, with 16 pictures, the main one of Kim watching the launch from a camouflaged shelter.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/nob...ch-says-trump/

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    “Eminent historians: Donald Trump is the founding fathers' worst nightmare”

    Eminent historians: Donald Trump is the founding fathers' worst nightmare | Salon.com

    “Isenberg: The other thing, is that John Quincy Adams, when he observes what's going on in France — and this is what people forget about the French Revolution — after the terror, what happens at the end? Well, Napoleon makes himself into an emperor. This was almost imitating what had happened in classical republics, classical governments, the other extreme is once you have the imaginary illusion that the people are in charge, they turn around and elevate their hero into an emperor, who is even more powerful than a president.”


    “Burstein: They called political parties factions, and no one wanted to belong to a political party. They said, well, this is the Federalist interest, this is the Republican interest, because the word "party" meant faction. As democracy provoked anarchy, what they called the "spirit of party" was a spirit of division. The Constitution did not recognize the inevitability of organized political parties.

    Isenberg: The Constitution didn't recognize it, although as I've said, they should've anticipated it, because...”



    https://www.salon.com/2019/05/11/emi...rst-nightmare/
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    More "fine people". Maybe Trump should build his wall around Georgia.

    Prosecutor: Students wanted attack to be 'record' mass murder

    A Cherokee County prosecutor said in court Friday afternoon that two students charged in 2017 with plotting to launch a violent attack at Etowah High School were looking to set a record for mass murder.


    And, for the first time, a “kill list,” the pair reportedly made was shown in court, which included a racial slur and expressed an intent to kill all of the school’s black students. Prosecutors showed excerpts from the journal where the list was found that included swastikas and slurs for people with disabilities.


    Cherokee County Assistant District Attorney Rachelle Carnesale said the defendants planned to use smoke bombs to “corral” students and faculty into a confined area where they planned to use “napalm and firearms” to “kill as many people as they could.”

    https://www.tribuneledgernews.com/pr...744bfe8ae.html
    But. obviously, black and brown people are the real problem.




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    It's beginning to look like the lies of Iraq's WMD version 2.0

    No increased Iran threat in Syria or Iraq, top British officer says, contradicting US
    Deputy commander of anti-Isis coalition rebuts White House justification for sending troops

    The top British general in the US-led coalition against Isis has said there is no increased threat from Iranian-backed forces in Iraq or Syria, directly contradicting US assertions used to justify a military buildup in the region.


    Hours later however, his assessment was disowned by US Central Command in an extraordinary rebuke of an allied senior officer. A spokesman insisted that the troops in Iraq and Syria were on a high level of alert due to the alleged Iranian threat. The conflicting versions of the reality on the ground added to the confusion and mixed signals in a tense part of the Middle East.


    Maj Gen Christopher Ghika, who is a deputy commander of Operation Inherent Resolve (OIR), the coalition conducting counter-terrorist operations against Isis in Iraq and Syria, was repeatedly questioned by reporters about the threat from Shia militias in Syria and Iraq, cited by US officials over the past week as justification for speeding up the deployment of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Gulf and for sending B-52 Stratofortress bombers and an anti-aircraft battery to the region.


    “No – there’s been no increased threat from Iranian-backed forces in Iraq and Syria,” Ghika said in a videolink briefing from Baghdad to the Pentagon. “We’re aware of that presence, clearly. And we monitor them along with a whole range of others because that’s the environment we’re in. We are monitoring the Shia militia groups. I think you’re referring to carefully and if the threat level seems to go up then we’ll raise our force protection measures accordingly.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...defiance-of-us


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    ^ As my good friend in the Royal Marines would say, "All the gear and no idea."
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    Conrad Black: The absurd collusion delusion goes up in smoke at last – National Post
    BY CONRAD BLACK
    ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: MAR 29, 2019

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/con...-smoke-at-last



    Trump grants full pardon to former media baron Conrad Black | CBC News
    Black was convicted in 2007 of fraud and obstruction of justice
    CBC News, May 15, 2019

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/conrad...rump-1.5137985

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    But he wrote a glowing book about Trump.

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    How Republicans Built a Presidency Above the Law for Trump


    “Power in their minds is unitary: unquestionable when in their hands, illegitimate when wielded by the opposition. ”


    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...for-trump.html
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    Trump planning on pardons for war criminals. Former Army prosecutor responds.

    Former Army lawyer rips Trump’s scheme to pardon war criminals: ‘This makes me sick’

    “Today I saw this NYT’s article that Trump is ginning up pardons of soldiers who criminally killed others, intending to use it as some sort of twisted Memorial Day celebration,” he noted. “Among the pardons reportedly being contemplated are cases involving the Blackwater security firm. Please bear with me for a moment while I relate some basic public facts about the Blackwater case. The defendants were US civilians (veterans) who were being paid to perform security services in Iraq. Multiple Blackwater employees opened fire on innocent Iraqis in what was a massacre in broad daylight. They killed 14 unarmed Iraqi citizens and injured 17 others in front of dozens of witnesses


    “Some of the testifying witnesses were the defendants own Blackwater teammates,” Kirschner said. “Many of the fellow Blackwater members testified about how the defendants were in the wrong – they did not even attempt to defend their teammates, rather they described their teammates’ use of deadly force as being wholly unjustified and without provocation. Evidence at trial included how one defendant, Nicholas Slatten, called Iraqis ‘animals’ and ‘less then human.’ According to Slatten, Iraqi lives were worth ‘nothing.’”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/for...makes-me-sick/

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    US says that Iran may do what the US did.

    Apparently it's a veiled threat that the US is prepared to do it again.


    US: Iran military could misidentify airliners amid tension

    “Although Iran likely has no intention to target civil aircraft, the presence of multiple long-range, advanced anti-aircraft-capable weapons in a tense environment poses a possible risk of miscalculation or misidentification, especially during periods of heightened political tension and rhetoric,” the warning said. [...]


    The warning comes 30 years after the USS Vincennes mistook an Iran Air commercial jetliner for an Iranian F-14, shooting it down and killing all 290 people onboard. That was not lost on Iran’s mission to the United Nations, which dismissed the warning as America’s “psychological war against Iran.”

    https://www.apnews.com/b4f5c00455fb4ffb878ed29df58abc03
    From the US report on the incident

    Iran Air Flight 655

    According to the U.S. government, USS Vincennes mistakenly identified the airliner as an attacking military fighter and misidentified its flight profile as being similar to that of an F-14A Tomcat during an attack run; however, the cruiser's Aegis Combat System recorded the plane's flight plan as climbing (not descending as in an attack run) at the time of the incident.[24] The flight had originated at Bandar Abbas, which served as both a base for Iranian F-14 operations and as a hub for commercial civilian flights.[11] According to the same reports, Vincennes unsuccessfully tried to contact the approaching aircraft, seven times on the military emergency frequency and three times on the civilian emergency frequency, but never on air traffic control frequencies. This civilian aircraft was not equipped to pick up military frequencies and the messages on the civilian emergency channel could have been directed at any aircraft. More confusion arose as the hailed speed was the ground speed, while the pilot's instruments displayed airspeed, a 50-knot (93 km/h) difference.[29]


    This version was finalized in a report by Admiral William Fogarty, entitled Formal Investigation into the Circumstances Surrounding the Downing of Iran Air Flight 655 on 3 July 1988 (the "Fogarty report")[6] Only parts of this report have been released (part I in 1988 and part II in 1993). The Fogarty report stated, "The data from USS Vincennes tapes, information from USS Sides and reliable intelligence information, corroborate the fact that [Iran Air Flight 655] was on a normal commercial air flight plan profile, in the assigned airway, squawking Mode III 6760, on a continuous ascent in altitude from take-off at Bandar Abbas to shoot-down".


    The Fogarty report also stated, "Iran must share the responsibility for the tragedy by hazarding one of their civilian airliners by allowing it to fly a relatively low altitude air route in Close proximity to hostilities that had been ongoing".[30]


    When questioned in a 2000 BBC documentary, the U.S. government stated in a written answer that they believed the incident may have been caused by a simultaneous psychological condition amongst the eighteen bridge crew of Vincennes, called "scenario fulfillment", which is said to occur when persons are under pressure. In such a situation, the men will carry out a training scenario, believing it to be reality while ignoring sensory information that contradicts the scenario. In the case of this incident, the scenario was an attack by a lone military aircraft.[31]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_A...nment_accounts

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Trump planning on pardons for war criminals. Former Army prosecutor responds.

    Former Army lawyer rips Trump’s scheme to pardon war criminals: ‘This makes me sick’

    “Today I saw this NYT’s article that Trump is ginning up pardons of soldiers who criminally killed others, intending to use it as some sort of twisted Memorial Day celebration,” he noted. “Among the pardons reportedly being contemplated are cases involving the Blackwater security firm. Please bear with me for a moment while I relate some basic public facts about the Blackwater case. The defendants were US civilians (veterans) who were being paid to perform security services in Iraq. Multiple Blackwater employees opened fire on innocent Iraqis in what was a massacre in broad daylight. They killed 14 unarmed Iraqi citizens and injured 17 others in front of dozens of witnesses


    “Some of the testifying witnesses were the defendants own Blackwater teammates,” Kirschner said. “Many of the fellow Blackwater members testified about how the defendants were in the wrong – they did not even attempt to defend their teammates, rather they described their teammates’ use of deadly force as being wholly unjustified and without provocation. Evidence at trial included how one defendant, Nicholas Slatten, called Iraqis ‘animals’ and ‘less then human.’ According to Slatten, Iraqi lives were worth ‘nothing.’”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/for...makes-me-sick/
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    Anti-money laundering staff at Deutsche Bank flagged Trump, Kushner transactions: NYT

    Executives at German-based bank rejected employees' advice, newspaper reports
    Reuters
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-...imes-1.5142279
    Anti-money laundering specialists at Deutsche Bank AG recommended in 2016 and 2017 that multiple transactions involving entities controlled by U.S. President Donald Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, be reported to a federal financial crimes watchdog, the New York Times reported on Sunday.

    The newspaper, citing five current and former Deutsche Bank employees, said executives at the German-based bank, which has lent billions of dollars to the Trump and Kushner companies, rejected their employees' advice.
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    This is the guy Trump put in charge of housing.


    WATCH: Congresswoman stunned as Trump’s housing chief Ben Carson confuses foreclosures with Oreo cookies

    "“Do you know what an REO is?” asked Porter, a former University of California-Irvine professor and public interest lawyer.


    Carson seemed baffled: “An Oreo?”


    Porter, who wrote one of the first academic studies of foreclosure fraud, slowly spelled out the difference between the phonetically similar acronym and brand-name cookie.


    “No, not an Oreo,” she said. “An REO.”


    “Real estate,” Carson guessed.


    “What’s the ‘O’ stand for?” Porter asked.


    “Organization?” he said.


    Porter explained that REO stood for real estate-owned property, which was the term used when property goes into foreclosure, before she tried to resume asking the Cabinet secretary on the issues that concerned her constituents."

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/wat...-oreo-cookies/

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    Iran - "We won't negotiate while you're making threats and walking away from the accord"

    Trump - "See, they're making threats! Well, not really"

    Trump suddenly reverses course on Iran, says there is ‘no indication’ of threats
    Trump has no coordinated strategy on Iran — and it's obvious.

    President Donald Trump spent the last week talking up possible military action against Iran, discussing the number of troops that would be involved, and threatening that war would mean the “official end of Iran.”


    On Monday, he suddenly reversed course, claiming that there was “no indication” of threats from the country that would require such a response.


    “They’ve been very hostile. They’ve truly been the no. 1 provocateur of terror,” Trump told reporters as he left the White House, before saying that there was, in fact, no threat. “We have no indication that anything’s happened or will happen, but if it does, it will be met, obviously, with great force. We will have no choice.”


    That’s a huge about-face from his own tweet on Sunday, in which he wrote, “If Iran wants to fight, that will be the end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again!”

    https://thinkprogress.org/trump-says...-2084505cdbdb/

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    Trump's karma got run over by his dogma.

    Trump's financial records appeal will go to court . . . Merrick Garland's court

    On Monday, a federal judge ruled that the House has every legal right within its constitutional powers to review 10 years of Donald Trump's financial records. U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta also declined to stay that decision pending Trump's appeal because he doesn't think they have a case that could prevail on appeal.


    That appeal is coming, says Jay Sekulow, one of the president’s personal attorneys. He told Politico "We will be filing a timely notice of appeal to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals." Here's where it gets fun. The chief judge of that court is none other than Merrick Garland.


    You remember Garland, the eminently qualified and totally noncontroversial judge whose nomination to the Supreme Court was blockaded by Republicans, most refusing to even have a courtesy meeting him, just because he was nominated by President Barack Obama to fill the seat vacated when Justice Antonin Scalia died. Yeah, that Merrick Garland.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...arland-s-court

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    Wish they would have told us that not colluding wth Russia was grounds for impeachment
    https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/sta...60564505784320

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    You know that’s not Sean Spicer, right?
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    One of Trump’s broken promises has cost US taxpayers 255 times the presidential salary he volunteered not to take

    Donald Trump’s golf outings have cost U.S. taxpayers $102 million in expenses — which, according to HuffPost, is “255 times the annual presidential salary he volunteered not to take.”

    The figure represents millions in “extra travel and security expenses,” according to HuffPost, and will increase again next month when he visits his resort in Doonbeg, Ireland in June.
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/one...d-not-to-take/

    What a waste of money.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Is there no limit to this guy's crookedness? Unreal.
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    How else is the President supposed to get his exercise?

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    BWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!!


    Stormy Daniels and others would beg to disagree with you.

    Trump Walks Out of Infrastructure Meeting With Pelosi and Schumer
    The president is not pleased with Pelosi’s accusation that he is engaging in a “cover-up.”

    "“I don’t do cover-ups,” Trump later said on Wednesday from the Rose Garden, in what appeared to be off-the-script comments. “You people know that probably better than anybody.”"

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...nfrastructure/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    How else is the President supposed to get his exercise?
    Here you go:
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/01/healt...ump/index.html
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    BWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!!


    Stormy Daniels and others would beg to disagree with you.

    Trump Walks Out of Infrastructure Meeting With Pelosi and Schumer
    The president is not pleased with Pelosi’s accusation that he is engaging in a “cover-up.”

    "“I don’t do cover-ups,” Trump later said on Wednesday from the Rose Garden, in what appeared to be off-the-script comments. “You people know that probably better than anybody.”"

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...nfrastructure/
    Trump should have said more correctly, “I don’t do cover-ups, well
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    Well, its up to the Democrats now. Do they think they can win more votes by endlessly pleasing their hard-left constituent through one pointless investigation after another, or by actually trying to pass legislation to enhance the country?

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    It is not about getting votes.

    It is about following the oath of office and the defence of the American Constitution.

    No person is above the law.

    BTW, in case you don't know, the Democrats have passed many Bill's in the House over the past 4 months but Mitch McConnell refuses to allow them to the floor of the Senate and Trump has vowed to veto any that may pass.

    The Bill's passed included an unanimously passed bipartisan bill 420:0 that was to allow a full unredacted Mueller Report.

    Also the Democrats passed an anti-corruption and voting rights legislation on Friday, an expansive measure that aims to dismantle barriers to the ballot box, end big money in politics and impose stricter ethics rules on federal officials. The sweeping legislation, passed 234-193

    They also passed legislation aimed at lowering drug prices and a sweeping bill that mandates background checks be performed on all gun sales, including firearm purchases made privately. Something that 90+% of voters support.

    Trump and his obstructionist party are stalling these bills.
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    ^its a vendetta. The Republicans back in the day had one for Clinton (who had similar sexual and financial misdealing). Its pointless (Trumps supporters couldn't care less about his mistresses and tax returns, its preaching to converted) and will achieve nothing for the US, if the Democrats hate Trump so much, beat him at the next election. The way to do that isn't to discredit Trump (he never had any credibility and that didn't matter in the election), its to show some policies / reforms that make a difference.

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    It is not a vendetta at all. Otherwise they would have tried to impeach Bush's 1 or 2. Many Congress people were not even elected when Clinton was impeached.

    We all understand the hypocrisy of Republicans who stand behind Trump's infidelities and cover-up of paying a porn star, you know, The Party of Family Values and Bible Belt Politics...

    Trump and his minions have broken the laws and failed to perform their oaths of office. This is not a voting issue but an issue of law, justice and the Constitution.

    But you ignore those facts...

    Hypocrisy a mile deep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    BTW, in case you don't know, the Democrats have passed many Bill's in the House over the past 4 months but Mitch McConnell refuses to allow them to the floor of the Senate and Trump has vowed to veto any that may pass.
    And sometimes the House of Representatives or the Senate have rejected Trump's proposals. And sometimes the courts have overturned decisions (and were sometimes reversed).

    You'd almost think that there is a series of built-in checks and balances that prevents anyone from doing everything they want.

    However, as everyone knows, since Trump is Hitler he will get his way and throw everyone he doesn't like (black people) into ovens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    It is not a vendetta at all. Otherwise they would have tried to impeach Bush's 1 or 2.
    Wikipedia lists 35 times they tried to impeach Dubya

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effort...George_W._Bush

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    Could Trump be trying to hide bank fraud on his part? Once all the documents from the IRS, the banks and the Trump organization are in once place, the discrepancies between their differing accounts will become quite obvious. Don't forget that Allen Weisselberg, Trump former Chief Financial Officer, has been granted immunity in the southern district of New York and is cooperating with prosecutors there in an investigation that was spun off of the Muller investigation and was not covered in that report.

    Judge rules against Trump, says that Deutsche Bank can turn over information about his loans

    CNBC reports that this loss follows the ruling of another federal judge on Monday, who ruled that Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars USA, must turn over subpoenaed financial records. It also follows a morning hearing in which Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin was battered by the reveal of an internal IRS memo showing that the agency believed there was no basis for withholding Trump’s tax forms from Congress.


    Trump has now lost his first court case over his financial records. He has lost his first case over his bank loans. He seems to be on his way to losing over his tax forms, and even if Mnuchin falls on his sword for Trump, New York state has just passed a law providing Congress with an alternative path to obtaining the information it’s seeking. It seems a near certainty that Trump will appeal all these rulings. But the brevity and sharpness of the decisions makes it seem very unlikely that they will be reversed at the appeals court level.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...bout-his-loans
    And some background on Wesselberg from 2018.

    Allen Weisselberg, the Man Who Knows Donald Trump’s Financial Secrets, Has Agreed to Become a Coöperating Witness

    On Friday, the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Weisselberg had been granted immunity by federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York so that he could share information in the investigation of Michael Cohen, Trump’s former personal attorney and dealmaker. It is safe to say that the entire world of Trump watchers—those journalists, political folks, and advocates who carefully monitor every bit of Trump news—went bonkers. Weisselberg is the man to whom those people most want to speak. He is also the man who has, for decades, been the most circumspect.


    As the C.F.O., Weisselberg tracked the money that came into the Trump Organization and the money that went out of it, former employees told me. I often found myself wondering what the Weisselberg part of the operation looked like. (I called and e-mailed him a few times, but, not surprisingly, never heard back.) Some told me he had a couple of bookkeepers, but that he personally handled most of the paperwork. Weisselberg knew who was paying or lending money to Trump, and he knew to whom Trump was giving money. When Trump became President, he placed his business interests in a revocable trust overseen by his son Donald Trump, Jr., and Weisselberg.

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp...rating-witness


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    It is not a vendetta at all. Otherwise they would have tried to impeach Bush's 1 or 2.
    Wikipedia lists 35 times they tried to impeach Dubya

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effort...George_W._Bush
    Its an endless stupid political game that elites play (Republican or Democrat) in Washington - basically, a prop for the legal profession / swamp rats. Whoever gets in as the next President, on the left or right, will also likely face the same calls for impeachment. What's surprising is that so many people on this thread think these political games actually mean something, when any logical person knows they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    It is not a vendetta at all. Otherwise they would have tried to impeach Bush's 1 or 2.
    Wikipedia lists 35 times they tried to impeach Dubya

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effort...George_W._Bush
    As usual, MrOilers gets his facts wrong. They Democrats did not try to impeach Bush 35 times. The truth is easily obtained from the Wiki link he posted but obviously did not read nor understand. MrOilers has stated repeatedly that he only reads headlines and fails to read the whole articles. He spins his half truths and misleading propaganda to bolster his weak arguments.

    The truth is that the Democrats tried to impeach Bush ONCE using 35 articles of impeachment. The strongest and most relevant issue was the illegitimate reasons that the Bush administration used to start the Iraq War. Many of the resulting actions by the Bush administration can be considered war crimes.

    From his source

    The Kucinich–Wexler impeachment resolution contained 35 articles covering the Iraq War, the Valerie Plame affair, creating a case for war with Iran, capture and treatment of prisoners of war, spying and or wiretapping inside the United States, use of signing statements, failing to comply with Congressional subpoenas, the 2004 elections, Medicare, Hurricane Katrina, global warming, and 9/11.

    The 2003 invasion of Iraq was the most substantial portion of the articles of impeachment introduced by Kucinich and Wexler. Fifteen of the 35 articles directly relate to alleged misconduct by Bush in seeking authority for the war, and in the conduct of military action itself. Five other articles address allegations partially or tertiarily relating to the war, including the "outing" of Valerie Plame, treatment of prisoners (both in Iraq and from operations in Afghanistan and other countries), and building a case for Iran being a threat based in part on alleging Iranian actions in Iraq.
    Now MrOilers, please apologize for your factual errors and misleading statements, to all the members of this forum to which you lied.
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 23-05-2019 at 01:13 AM.
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    Flashback to 2004

    Trump Is Right About One Thing: 'The Economy Does Better Under The Democrats'

    Donald was absolutely right when he told Wolf Blitzer in 2004: “I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi.../#2f0753076786

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    Default 5 reasons why Pelosi doesn’t want to Impeach Trump

    Even Liberal media get it:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/22/polit...ump/index.html

    Only 37 percent support- basically just the hard left.

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    2020 is around the corner. Expecting a blue wave much like 2018.

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    Trump is still in denial about losing the House to the Democrats in 2018.

    Elections have consequences..


    The investigations continue...
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    Trump's opponents haven't learned a thing. He is more shrewd than any of them gives him credit for.

    Trump keeps saying and tweeting things every day, to remind people of the Russia investigation that has come up empty because he knows that he has 2020 locked up as long as the Democrats keep flogging that dead horse and crying for impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    It is not a vendetta at all. Otherwise they would have tried to impeach Bush's 1 or 2.
    Wikipedia lists 35 times they tried to impeach Dubya

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effort...George_W._Bush
    As usual, MrOilers gets his facts wrong. They Democrats did not try to impeach Bush 35 times. The truth is easily obtained from the Wiki link he posted but obviously did not read nor understand. MrOilers has stated repeatedly that he only reads headlines and fails to read the whole articles. He spins his half truths and misleading propaganda to bolster his weak arguments.

    The truth is that the Democrats tried to impeach Bush ONCE using 35 articles of impeachment. The strongest and most relevant issue was the illegitimate reasons that the Bush administration used to start the Iraq War. Many of the resulting actions by the Bush administration can be considered war crimes.
    Yeah, yeah, semantics... blah, blah blah.

    Fact is they tried to impeach Dubya.

    You lied when you said they didn't.

    You are a liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump is still in denial about losing the House to the Democrats in 2018.

    Elections have consequences..


    The investigations continue...
    Yes, yes they do.

    New indictment says Manafort tried to sell a Trump cabinet job for millions in bribe money
    Stephen Calk allegedly tried to pull Manafort's financial strings in order to join the White House.


    A bombshell indictment released Thursday from the Justice Department detailed how banker Stephen Calk tried to use his financial ties to former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort to bribe his way into the Trump administration.


    According to the indictment, Calk has been charged with “financial institution bribery” for trying to use his position as the head of The Federal Savings Bank of Chicago, which issued “millions of dollars in high-risk loans” to Manafort, to obtain “a senior position” for himself within the Trump administration.

    https://thinkprogress.org/new-indict...-04c54d29bd84/

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    Prepping for Iraq 2.0 - Bigger and better

    Senate committee rejects proposal to require congressional approval before US strike on Iran

    The Senate Foreign Relations committee on Wednesday rejected a Democratic proposal to require congressional approval before the United States takes any military action against Iran.


    The panel voted 13-9 against the proposal, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT), who co-sponsored the measure with Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM). Every Republican on the panel voted against the proposal with the exception of Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY).

    https://thinkprogress.org/senate-com...-1b493c8658b3/

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    They should be giving Iran pallets loaded with cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    They should be giving Iran pallets loaded with cash.

    Another example of you reading headlines and parroting Trump rather than understanding the facts.

    The Iran nuclear agreement did not involve paying a bribe or giving tax payer's money to Iran.

    it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation
    It was simply unfreezing Iran's foreign bank accounts and in the other case, where actual money was transferred from the US to Iran was to return the money and interest owed to Iran for payments they made decades earlier when they bought and paid for US military hardware that was never shipped.

    That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.

    As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance
    Source https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-18-billion-c/

    As usual, MrOilers goes off the deep end, fully believing Trump's spin and misinformation rather than understanding the facts and that there was no secret backroom deals or grand conspiracy.

    Facts matter.

    Midterm elections and investigations matter to find out the truth behind the Trump Administration's own dirty dealings (like sending nuclear secrets to Saudi Arabia and the General Electric nuclear reactor division's parent company buying Jared Kushner's real estate debts), and Trump's financial entanglements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Prepping for Iraq 2.0 - Bigger and better
    You realize Trump is the first isolationist President in decades, don't you? I guess not.

    I find it humorous how socialists who for years have complained about the US being the worlds policeman uninvited, are then upset at Trump when he pulls troops early out of Afghanistan or Syria (causing a rebellion in his own Republican senate, and resulting in resignation of Mattis). Even more humorous is watching people claiming he is suddenly going to change his spots and want to start a war with Iran.
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    So you think that Trump is stable, predictable, responsible and never flip-flops on policy?
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    ^if there has been a theme of his Presidency, right or wrong, it has been isolationism, both in terms of trade, tax policy, and military / international relations. He is a Paleoconservative, through and through, to the point where he will actually stand up and stop his advisers (some of whom might want a war with Iran). I have bodled the relevant bit:

    They adhere to the normal conservative triad of nationalism, free markets, and moral traditionalism, but they put greater weight on the nationalist leg of the stool — leading to a more strident form of anti-immigrant politics that often veers into racism, an isolationist foreign policy rather than a hawkish or dovish one, and a deep skepticism of economic globalization that puts them at odds with an important element of the business agenda.
    https://www.vox.com/2016/5/6/11592604/donald-trump-paleoconservative-buchanan

    You don't have to believe me though, you can look at the facts. The US military is not mobilizing for a war - all they did was make some publicity about a rotation of a carrier though the Gulf, and redeploy the bombers (which happens regularly anyway).

    What is relatively new, however, is the man who sits in the Oval Office. Unlike previous U.S. presidents, Donald Trump appears reflexively opposed to getting the U.S. deeper into the Middle East. He recoils at the thought of wasting a few more trillion dollars and sacrificing a few thousand additional American lives for the cesspool this region has become — a place with a lot of intractable problems (ethnic conflict, predatory government, jihadists, unaccountable militias, and zero-sum competition between states) and few easy solutions. This is exactly what Trump campaigned against, and it was an issue that resonated with a lot of Americans who were tired of spending so many resources in a theater that seems immune to every dose of medicine.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/planning-for-war-in-iran-is-very-different-from-mobilizing-for-war-in-iran
    Last edited by downtownone; 23-05-2019 at 02:37 PM.

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    But he has surrounded himself with war mongers like John Bolton and basically let Israel and Saudi Arabia shape his Iran policy. He's talked about how easy a solution to the Israel/Palestinian issue will be. He's sided with the Saudis after they killed one of their own citizens who was a US resident and cut him up while still alive. He pulled out of the Iran deal simply because it didn't have his name on it and has been sabre rattling ever since. He's become BFF with the Kim regime in North Korea with absolutely noting in return. He's buddied up to Putin, taking his side in every case against his own security agencies. He's wondered why the US has all those nuclear weapons if they're not willing to use them.

    Yeah, he's a real isolationist. He's a Trumpian. He'll do whatever he can so long as it's got his name on it.

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    The only thing about Trump being a so called Paleoconservative and isolationist is the fact that Trump has zero understanding of world politics, international relations and diplomacy other that what he has learned from Faux and Fiends or the last person he just talked to, pivoting 180 degrees daily. He lives in a personal isolationist bubble of life long wealth, does not read, study or even care to understand history, world events or anything else. He is a real estate conman who cannot even run an honest business let alone a country.

    He appointed "only the best people" and boasts about his prowess and then fires them at the first hint that they question his actions or advises him that they are illegal and advise him to take s more rational approach.

    He is a Paleochild wearing a bad tie.

    downtownone wrote:
    if there has been a theme of his Presidency, right or wrong, it has been isolationism, both in terms of trade, tax policy, and military / international relations. He is a Paleoconservative, through and through, to the point where he will actually stand up and stop his advisers (some of whom might want a war with Iran). I have bodled the relevant bit:
    I think you misunderstood the 2016 Vox article. It clearly lays out that Trump is not a Conservative and certainly not a Paleoconservative. Trump has had liberal leaning and was a Clinton fan for years. He only saw his opportunity to scam the Republicans to take the leadership on his second run at political office, (he ran in 2000 as well but denies that fact too).

    So in total contradiction to your statements, Trump flip flops on policy, the political spectrum and his wives.
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    Trump - Master of "fake news"

    On Thursday, President Donald Trump tweeted a doctored video of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) appearing to stutter and slur her words as if drunk or confused — a video that was already slapped down as fake by Fox News earlier in the day:

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/tru...-nancy-pelosi/

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    ^ don't worry, 30 or 40 million people believe Trump regardless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    ^ don't worry, 30 or 40 million people believe Trump regardless
    not knowing (it's actually quite presumptuous to assume they are all informed) and not caring (even if they know) is not the same as believing.
    "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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    Its been petty on both sides, with Pelosi going on about interventions and tantrums and Trump firing back. In many respects its playing to Trumps strengths, he knows that the way public support is, if he can goad the Democratic party into trying to impeach him, it will galvanize his base, and turn many middle of the road voters, who are sick and tired of all this nonsense, away from the Democratic party.

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    It's a great strategy. I think everyone agrees that Trump's greatest talent is making his enemies insane with rage.


    If Trump continues to make his opponents look crazier than he is, a lot more people at the voting booth will choose Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownone View Post
    The US military is not mobilizing for a war - all they did was make some publicity about a rotation of a carrier though the Gulf, and redeploy the bombers (which happens regularly anyway).

    What is relatively new, however, is the man who sits in the Oval Office. Unlike previous U.S. presidents, Donald Trump appears reflexively opposed to getting the U.S. deeper into the Middle East. He recoils at the thought of wasting a few more trillion dollars and sacrificing a few thousand additional American lives for the cesspool this region has become — a place with a lot of intractable problems (ethnic conflict, predatory government, jihadists, unaccountable militias, and zero-sum competition between states) and few easy solutions. This is exactly what Trump campaigned against, and it was an issue that resonated with a lot of Americans who were tired of spending so many resources in a theater that seems immune to every dose of medicine.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/planning-for-war-in-iran-is-very-different-from-mobilizing-for-war-in-iran

    Are you saying that media is putting their own spin on a regular and common US-military drill to make it sound like Trump is going to attack Iran?

    The US media is all outrage theater.

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    The downfall of the greatest empire on earth. We are witnessing.

    Superpowers like China and Russia now run the world. The USA has become a puppet to these two. P45 has a lot to do with that.

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    ^P45 doesn't want the US to rule the world (albeit militarily it still can), and that's what American's voted for, a strong economy for the US first and foremost, and that's what they have.

    https://www.rollcall.com/news/opinio...rats-run-obama

    The jobs report drops, and what do they do? Run all the way back to Obama
    The Democratic narrative worked in 2018 because Republicans didn’t reach voters with what was a great economic story to tell. May 3 may well be a turning point. Arguing that Americans aren’t benefitting from Republican economic policies just doesn’t pass the laugh test anymore.
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    Actually the majority of American's voted for Clinton. #Fact

    Most of the gains in the economy came from Obama's hard work, and Trump just riding on that success.

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    Thanks to Obama, despite Republicans obstructing him at every turn, he saved the Amerocan economy and Trump inherited the benefits.
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    Lol,, so Canada's economic performance today, the good (less childhood poverty) and the bad (crises in energy industry / Alberta), is all due to Harper...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Actually the majority of American's voted for Clinton. #Fact
    Trump was brilliant to focus his Presidential campaign towards getting support from all the smaller, largely forgotten smaller towns and states instead of lazily campaigning to majority of people in the major cities like Hillary did. It was indisputably brilliant, as that tactic won Trump the presidency and Hillary did not.

    He proves again and again that he is more shrewd than most experienced career politicians.

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    you mean he worked on the gerrymandering districts.

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    ^60.5% of Canadians did not vote for Trudeau, but he is still Prime Minister. That's how first past the post works, its as much geographical coverage as population coverage.

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    first past the post is the biggest problem with democracy.

    I am in favour of abolishing the party system, maybe goverment would finally work for us, instead of catering to corporations.

    https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2018/06/2...tical-Parties/

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownone View Post
    ^60.5% of Canadians did not vote for Trudeau, but he is still Prime Minister. That's how first past the post works, its as much geographical coverage as population coverage.
    Way more than 60.5% didn’t vote for him.


    26,391 people voted for him out of 78,649 eligible voters.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papi...oral_district)

    Then when people say some percent of Canadians voted, that also ignores a whole lot of things.

    Eg. all those fully capable of making a thoughtful reasoned choice but due to age discrimination they aren’t even allowed to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    first past the post is the biggest problem with democracy.

    I am in favour of abolishing the party system, maybe goverment would finally work for us, instead of catering to corporations.

    https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2018/06/2...tical-Parties/
    It’s a fascinating thing. I want to elect someone that can represent me. Traditionally those living nearby fit that bill, however I can slice and dice my interests in many ways like local economic development etc. However we all also have interests that are national and not local in scope.

    So I wouldn’t mind voting for someone as part of a nation wide vote on issues of national not local scope. So if ridings were determined by function and not purely local geography (and gerrymandered party affiliations), we could have a very interesting system of democracy.

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    Counting people who didn't vote as opposed to the elected is just wrong. They didn't vote. They dont count.

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    Why should people in rural areas have less say on major issues just because they live in sparsely-populated areas? Many of the problems and issues they face are just as big (and sometimes more far-reaching) than the issues that people in densely-populated cities face, and deserve a political voice as well as the people who live in crowded cities.

    I think it would be dangerous for the USA to have their Presidents elected by the people of just a handful of isolated mega cities instead of weighing votes by the people from every single state in the union. One county in Southern California has more people than the total of around 30 other states (or something close to that). Handing Los Angeles the ability to decide who the the President is for 30 other states is insanity.

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    You make no sense. People in "isolated megacities" account for less than 20% of the population in the US and no one is suggesting that their votes should count more than anyone esle's. They will never "decide who is the president for thirty other states" unless they get 20 more populous states on their side. Otherwise it's perfectly reasonable that the vote of a city of 13million people should outweigh that of a state with just a few million, whichever of those states you decide to pick.

    There are usually more Republican votes in California than there are democratic votes in Texas, and with a proportional system all those votes would count.

    As it is there's a far greater danger of handing all the power to swing voters in a handful of states. Yes, it was the democrat's own fault that they didn't focus on Ohio and Michigan when they should have, but that doesn't mean that the system is better this way.
    There can only be one.

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    My argument makes sense when you consider this graphic:

    https://i.redd.it/krgqs68zbrp21.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Counting people who didn't vote as opposed to the elected is just wrong. They didn't vote. They dont count.
    All Canadians count if someone is saying percent of Canadians.

    Yes it’s somewhat just semantics. Like saying % voted for Trudeau when they actually voted for the Liberal MP in their own riding. (Most often the leader is a shoe in for his/her seat.)

    I just like being an anal PITA at times.

    I don’t like people saying “ Edmontonians think ...” either. Especially when it’s some small survey with some small majority causing the typecasting of the other 99%.
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    Another day, another lie or two or a hundred...

    AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit for Obama's gains for vets

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Boastful on the occasion of Memorial Day, President Donald Trump and his Veterans Affairs secretary are claiming full credit for health care improvements that were underway before they took office.


    Trump said he passed a private-sector health care program, Veterans Choice, after failed attempts by past presidents for the last "45 years." That's not true. The Choice program, which allows veterans to see doctors outside the government-run VA system at taxpayer expense, was first passed in 2014 under President Barack Obama.


    Trump's VA secretary, Robert Wilkie, also is distorting the facts. Faulting previous "bad leadership" at VA, Wilkie suggested it was his own efforts that improved waiting times at VA medical centers and brought new offerings of same-day mental health service. The problem: The study cited by Wilkie on wait times covers the period from 2014 to 2017, before Wilkie took the helm as VA secretary. Same-day mental health services at VA were started during the Obama administration under Wilkie's predecessor, David Shulkin.

    https://news.yahoo.com/ap-fact-check...042848294.html

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    Cooking the books for election fraud.

    Architect of GOP Gerrymandering Was Behind Trump’s Census Citizenship Question
    The GOP’s longtime redistricting expert said the question would be “advantageous to Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites.”


    In 2015, Hofeller was hired by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative news outlet, to study the impact of drawing state legislative districts based on citizenship rather than total population, which has been the standard for decades. Hofeller’s analysis of Texas state legislative districts found that drawing districts based on citizenship—a move he conceded would be a “radical departure from the federal ‘one person, one vote’ rule presently used in the United States”—would reduce representation for Hispanics, who tended to vote Democratic, and increase representation for white Republicans. But Hofeller said that a question about citizenship would need to be added to the census, which forms the basis for redistricting, for states like Texas to pursue this new strategy.


    Hofeller then urged President Donald Trump’s transition team to add the question about citizenship to the 2020 census. He urged the team to claim that a citizenship question was needed to enforce the Voting Rights Act, even though Hofeller had already concluded that it would harm the racial minority groups that the act was designed to protect. That argument was then used by the Justice Department in a December 2017 letter requesting that the Commerce Department, which oversees the census, include a citizenship question.


    Hofeller’s documents were discovered on hard drives found by his estranged daughter and introduced into evidence in a separate trial challenging gerrymandered North Carolina state legislative districts drawn by Hofeller. On Thursday, lawyers challenging the citizenship question cited them in federal court. They suggest that members of Trump’s team may not have been fully forthcoming in their testimony under oath.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ship-question/

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    Interesting how the McCain ship nonsense parallels the Trudeau sandbag incident.

    The flakiest issues around optics and touchy-feely feelings of the grand poobahs override and interferes with the doers of the world just trying to do.




    White House tried to hide USS John McCain’s name during Donald Trump’s visit to Japan: reports - National | Globalnews.ca

    Rebecca Ballhaus
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    NEW: The White House wanted the USS John McCain “out of sight” for Trump’s visit to Japan. A tarp was hung over the ship’s name ahead of the trip, and sailors—who wear caps bearing the ship’s name—were given the day off for Trump’s visit. w/
    @glubold

    (link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-h...imessage_share) wsj.com/articles/white…

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5332742/w...n-trump-visit/
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    So much winning!

    US stock futures, global markets sink after Trump threatens tariffs on Mexico

    US stock futures and global stock markets, including shares of Asian and European automakers, tumbled Friday after President Donald Trump said the United States will impose a 5% tariff on all Mexican imports.


    Japan's Nikkei (N225) slumped 1.6%, while South Korea's KOSPI (KOSPI) was mostly flat. Markets in Europe also opened lower. Britain's FTSE 100 index fell 0.8%. Stocks in Germany shed 1.3%, and in France they dipped 1%.


    Stock futures indicated that those losses would extend to the United States. The Dow is poised to fall 230 points, or 0.9%, when markets open. The S&P 500 is tracking similar losses, while the Nasdaq could drop 1.1%.

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    Trump tweeted that the tariffs on Mexico would take effect on June 10 and remain in place until "illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP."


    Trump, who has called himself "Tariff Man," warned that the tariff will increase until "the illegal immigration problem is remedied."


    The White House indicated the tariff would increase to 10% on July 1 if Mexico does not comply. If the country continues to not act, the White House said, the tariff will increase to 15% on August 1, 20% on September 1 and 25% on October 1.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/inves...ons/index.html

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    Trump has only one tool in his box, tariffs is the tool he knows to use to solve every problem.

    He does not know how to enact laws through Congress or the Senate, does not know how to negotiate deals, does not know how to win bipartisan support, nor even bothers to try. All he does is lash out against his opponents and other countries with tariffs that directly tax Amerocans and increasd their cost of living.

    Trump is threatening Mexico with up to 25% tariffs, has imposed tariffs on China, Canada and other countries. He is also threatening Indoa with tariffs and their special tax status. Trump's principal campaign goal of a new NAFTA deal has not been ratified and may be ripped up before the ink dries.


    Trump’s Tariff Threat Sends Mexico, Lawmakers and Businesses Scrambling

    https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproje...ald-trump.html
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    When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win. Example, when we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore-we win big. It’s easy!


    2:50 AM - 2 Mar 2018

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...sy-to-win.html

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    Warren Buffett: Here's How I Would Solve the Trade Problem

    “Warren Buffett wrote this article, originally titled “America’s Growing Trade Deficit Is Selling The Nation Out From Under Us. Here’s A Way To Fix The Problem–And We Need To Do It Now” for Fortune in November 2003. ...”

    http://fortune.com/2016/04/29/warren...foreign-trade/




    Buffett: Free trade is wonderful but the penalties are terrible
    2017
    https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/02/2...-terrible.html




    Warren Buffett says country has to take care of people who have become 'roadkill'
    2019

    "I'm 100 percent for free trade. I think it has benefited the country enormously and will continue to benefit it. But the benefit of free trade is invisible. ... There's nothing in Walmart that says you saved 8 percent because we bought this somewhere other than American manufacturers," Buffett said.

    "You have this huge national benefit unseen but you ruined the economic lives of people who are 50 or 55. They are not going to be retrained and relocated ... they became uneconomic in the world of economy. Rich countries can take care of those people to follow policies which benefit all of us to take care of the relative few who are dislocated," he added.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/warr...road-kill.html



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    “The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20, 2017, safety will be restored.” - Donald Trump at his inaguration

    Mass shootings are up 27% in 2019. The Virginia Beach massacre adds to that grim statistic

    The number of mass shootings this year is up 27.5% from where it was this time last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive’s database.


    Adding to that grim statistic is Friday’s mass shooting in Virginia Beach, Virginia, that claimed 12 lives and launched a frantic but familiar search for answers to what prompted the gunman and how the tragedy might have been averted.

    https://thinkprogress.org/mass-shoot...-3feba2f83dfc/

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    ^ Trump lives in a bubble where he thinks he has Devine powers and simply by stating his desires, it happens.

    He should have realized years ago that the world just does not work that way.

    Most regular people figure that out when they are 6 years old.
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    Trump looked like he wore his suit from his high school prom. "see, it still fits..."

    Those three buttons look like they are at maximum stress...
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 04-06-2019 at 07:23 AM.
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    Trump may have just killed Brexit. Anything going after NHS would be like the Americans going after Medicare here.

    Trump: 'NHS on the table in US-UK trade deal'


    Speaking at a joint press conference, US President Donald Trump said the National Health Service would form part of negotiations over a possible future trade deal between the UK and US.


    "When you're dealing in trade, everything is on the table," he said.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-48516...-uk-trade-deal



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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump looked like he wore his suit from his high school prom. "see, it still fits..."

    Those three buttons look like they are at maximum stress...

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    "Good afternoon Mr. Creosote, and how are we feeling today ?"

    "Better. Better get a bucket I'm going to throw up"


    Such a wonderfully awful sketch

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    Frankenstein's Tux is tailored to fit. Trump buys expensive suits off the rack and then refuses to have them tailored to fit. Guess he does not want anyone to measure his inseam...
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    Don't give Jason Kenney any ideas...

    Pipeline Protesters Could Face up to 20 Years in Prison Under New Trump Proposal
    https://www-ecowatch-com.cdn.ampproj...638679696.html

    Building on efforts by multiple states to crack down on those fighting the construction of climate-destroying fossil fuel infrastructure, the Trump administration unveiled a proposal on Monday that would criminalize pipeline protests at the federal level and hit demonstrators with up to 20 years in prison.

    The new proposal, released by Transportation Department's Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, was immediately denounced by environmentalists as a serious threat to the First Amendment.

    "This dangerous proposal threatens to undermine Americans' right to peaceful assembly and free speech," Kelly Martin, director of the Sierra Club's Beyond Dirty Fossil Fuels campaign, said in a statement. "It is a blatant attempt to intimidate those who would exercise their First Amendment rights to speak out against pipeline projects that put our clean water, communities, and climate at risk."

    "Rather than focusing on shielding corporate polluters from public protest," Martin said, "the administration should be working to ensure that communities are protected from dirty, dangerous fossil fuel projects."
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    It's all about him. Forget about the veterans, all in their 90s waiting for the ceremony to start. He's got to talk to Faux "News"

    Trump delays D-Day ceremony to squeeze in an interview with Fox’s Laura Ingraham

    President Donald Trump delivered a speech marking the 75th anniversary of the D-Day invasion at Normandy — after squeezing in an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham.


    The ceremony was delayed while the U.S. president spoke with Ingraham, who had complained about Democrats using children as “pathetic political props” during a broadcast the previous evening from the cemetery at Normandy.


    TV cameras spotted Trump talking to Ingraham 14 minutes after the ceremony was scheduled to begin, and an announcement was made pushing back the start time as thousands waited.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/tru...aura-ingraham/

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    U.S. Navy says Russian destroyer almost collided with cruiser
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1T8116

    Trump responds, he believes Putin
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