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    MrOilers tried to claim that the reason we are not talking about children in cages and internment camp was because the we were not getting our marching orders from the media. The reason was because Trump's serial arsonist actions of setting multiple fires a day, takes up the entire bandwidth of everyone's attention.

    It is ironic that Trump himself does not mention the wall or the Muslim hordes. Maybe it is because his boss, Putin changed Trump's marching orders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
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    News anchors on US TV were crying. CRYING on air during election night when Trump won the election.

    You are foolish if you think they are being objective with Trump.
    And others were likely cheering. And they aren’t anchors anymore. They are mostly news commentators and entertainers. Just look at how Fox, CNN, Breitbart etc no longer just report but interpret, analyze and gather commentary from others.

    That said, who is being objective? People are either for him or against him. They’ve chosen sides and all cherrypick information and treat it as proof that their own anti or pro view of Trump is correct.

    Remember when these mainstream news outlets were caught sneaking debate questions to Hillary Clinton ahead of time?

    Then when this was discovered, they all ignored the scandal and instead blamed Russian hackers (and Donald Trump) for it?

    The fact that so many people fully trust everything they see on TV and printed in the newspaper, and then totally ignore everything else put in front of them, just shows how successful the corporate media has been at brainwashing our society into believing that they have a monopoly on truth.
    FACT CHECK: Clinton Received Debate Questions Week Before Debate

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cl...before-debate/




    Chris Christie defends DNC chair Donna Brazile in a fiery media panel - Business Insider

    Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie defended former Democratic National Committee chairwoman Donna Brazile's criticism of the media's handling of the 2016 hacking of the DNC.

    Brazile's emails were leaked to the press during her time at the DNC in 2016, which Christie said unfairly "banged" the committee and Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign.

    The two were appearing on a panel with reporters from The New York Times and NPR on Sunday about the special counsel's indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers.

    Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie stepped up to defend a rather unlikely person on Sunday — former Democratic National Committee chairwoman Donna Brazile. But they had a common criticism: the media's handling of the 2016 DNC hack. ...”


    Brazile's emails were leaked to the press during her time as interim chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee in 2016, the media coverage of which Christie said unfairly "banged" the committee and Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign.

    After host Jonathan Karl asked if "the news media writ-large bear some amount of responsibility", Christie backed up Brazile's statement that the media "blew it out of proportion".




    http://www.businessinsider.com/chris...rrative-2018-7

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  3. #6203

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    MrOilers tried to claim that the reason we are not talking about children in cages and internment camp was because the we were not getting our marching orders from the media.
    How come you didn't get outraged about it when Obama started doing it 5 years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    FACT CHECK: Clinton Received Debate Questions Week Before Debate

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cl...before-debate/

    That Snopes website is just another blog, not an authority on truth.

    The truth is, there are emails on Wikileaks from staff at major media outlets containing debate questions that were sent to Hillary's campaign ahead of the debates.

    Here is one of them: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205

  5. #6205

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    They were not separating families and mixing everything up and you know that.

    Contrary to what Trump says, Obama was tough on immigration but fair and ethical.

    There is no moral equivalency here.
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  6. #6206

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    Remember during the campaign when the mainstream news media was telling everyone that claims of Hillary Clinton's ailing health was just a right-wing conspiracy theory?

    Then that video surfaced of Hillary Clinton seizing up and collapsing and being thrown into her van during the 9/11 memorial ceremony, and then the media was forced to walk back and admit that she actually was sick?

    Why trust them anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    They were not separating families and mixing everything up and you know that.

    Contrary to what Trump says, Obama was tough on immigration but fair and ethical.

    There is no moral equivalency here.
    You omit the part where most of the kids are actually being trafficked into the US, and were separated from their real families long before reaching the US border. And you know that.

  8. #6208

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Remember during the campaign when the mainstream news media was telling everyone that claims of Hillary Clinton's ailing health was just a right-wing conspiracy theory?

    Then that video surfaced of Hillary Clinton seizing up and collapsing and being thrown into her van during the 9/11 memorial ceremony, and then the media was forced to walk back and admit that she actually was sick?

    Why trust them anymore?
    So why trust your other sources?

    As for Clinton being sick, here on this forum someone said that she clearly wasn’t long for this world. And I seem to recall posts from other media suggesting heart conditions, etc. None of it was factual and as far as I know Clinton is still with us.

    Your choice of words above are: “seizing up and collapsing” and “thrown“. Even that seems like right-wing subjective spin compared to what I recall seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    They were not separating families and mixing everything up and you know that.

    Contrary to what Trump says, Obama was tough on immigration but fair and ethical.

    There is no moral equivalency here.
    You omit the part where most of the kids are actually being trafficked into the US, and were separated from their real families long before reaching the US border. And you know that.
    "most"??? Do you have verified sources for your claim?
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  10. #6210

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    The story about the tape was most likely leaked by the Trump team. The New York Times, would have contacted them to let them know about the story they were about to publish and to get a response. Shortly after the Times publishes the story, Trump suddenly was tweeting about the NFL players kneeling again. Trump is hoping that by leaking the story, he can then bury it under a number of other "items of importance" on his Twitter feed. He makes mention of the tapes by claiming that the FBI broke into Cohen's office (wrong, the had a warrant and Cohen said they were polite and professional.), that Cohen was wrong to tape Trump (Cohen would know hos much Trump lies and probably had the tapes to act as insurance in case Trump threw him under the bus) and finally claiming that "The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!". All of it simply to suck the oxygen out of the room before changing topic.

    Like complaining about NFL players taking a knee.

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    Notice how MrAltReich does the Russian propaganda trick of whataboutism destruction to bring up Clinton and Obama multiple times today alone.

    When he can't explain Trump's actions he points to to people who are not even politicians anymore.

    Watch him freak out when I compare Trump to Hitler...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Notice how MrAltReich does the Russian propaganda trick of whataboutism destruction to bring up Clinton and Obama multiple times today alone.

    When he can't explain Trump's actions he points to to people who are not even politicians anymore.

    Watch him freak out when I compare Trump to Hitler...
    he is only doing here what the trump tweet machine does on a bigger scale - he just doesn’t seem to recognize it at either scale. or perhaps he does and it’s as intentional here as it is by the donald.

    although “at this scale” he isn’t the only poster here driven to own his chosen thread(s) and prepared to post copiously to drown out or bury any dissenting or contrary opinion or criticism.
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    Austrian state wants to force Jews and Muslims who eat kosher and halal meat to register with government
    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/national...government/amp
    One of Trumps great admirers has come up with this brilliant idea. How long before Trump comes up with this idea on his own? For national security you understand.

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    Maybe they can make it easier for shop owners to identify these customers. Perhaps some sort of symbol they can wear on their clothes. What could possibly be wrong with that?

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    Even easier for them if they round them up and put them in fenced camps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Even easier for them if they round them up and put them in fenced camps...
    as long as we still have reservations with no property rights (amongst a myriad of other things including clean water and education) we shouldn’t get too smug...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    They were not separating families and mixing everything up and you know that.

    Contrary to what Trump says, Obama was tough on immigration but fair and ethical.

    There is no moral equivalency here.
    You omit the part where most of the kids are actually being trafficked into the US, and were separated from their real families long before reaching the US border. And you know that.
    "most"??? Do you have verified sources for your claim?
    The Department of Homeland Security told us this. Twice I posted the video of them saying this here (you obviously didn't watch it).

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    You told us that all the administration is not to be trusted because they are all Clinton hacks. I don't believe you because you have a terrible track record
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    Apparently Trump wanted the Stormy Daniels payment to be made in cash, rather than a cheque. Much easier to hide a cash payment, especially for something that you've been claiming that you knew nothing about.

    Trump ex-lawyer Michael Cohen secretly recorded Trump talking about payoff to Playboy model

    Giuliani said that Trump had told Cohen that if he were to pay McDougal he should do so with a check, rather than cash, so that there would be record of the payment.

    "In the big scheme of things, it’s powerful exculpatory evidence,” Giuliani told the newspaper.


    But a source familiar with the recording told CNBC on Friday night that, in fact, it was Trump who raised the idea of paying McDougal with cash.


    The source also said that it was Cohen who told Trump they would use a check to pay her if they ended up making such a payment.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/mich...ff-report.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Even easier for them if they round them up and put them in fenced camps...
    as long as we still have reservations with no property rights (amongst a myriad of other things including clean water and education) we shouldn’t get too smug...
    Not wanting to derail things but we're well past the time for the First Nations to be granted full membership in Confederation. An 11th province made up of all First Nations. Full involvement while still permitting them to choose their own form of self government at the equivalent of the provincial level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Apparently Trump wanted the Stormy Daniels payment to be made in cash, rather than a cheque. Much easier to hide a cash payment, especially for something that you've been claiming that you knew nothing about.
    Wrong payoff - this was about the Playboy model (McDougal), not the stripper (Daniels). It's hard to keep track of them all, isn't it?
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    We need a chart. Regardless, after claiming not to know anything about wither of these, suddenly there's a tape of him talking about cash payoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    We need a chart. Regardless, after claiming not to know anything about wither of these, suddenly there's a tape of him talking about cash payoffs.
    He just misspoke earlier. He didn’t mean to say ‘to not know’ but ‘to know’...

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