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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Trumps look how big my military is is likely a euphemism for something else in his mind.
    Something else in his mind? You mean the typical sexist anti-male* comment women use against men all the time? Or possibly do you mean, say: his significant other’s small ....?

    Apparently he saw a French parade and liked it.


    * it’s a new world where men have to clean up their act in references about women, so maybe women will come under the same politically/sexually correct pressures.


    “I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.”
    Last edited by KC; 11-02-2018 at 09:36 AM.

  2. #4202

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    Apparently unaware that the French parade commemorates the lower classes overthrowing the aristocracy. You know, people like him.

    And seeing as he wanted a military parade for his inauguration, I'd say they Red Square military parades was a more likely inspiration than the French one.

  3. #4203

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    I don't know how Trump can be in denial.

    The former wives of Rob Porter did not lie when speaking to the FBI, otherwise they would have committed perjury.


    FORMER WIVES OF TOP WHITE HOUSE AIDE ROB PORTER BOTH TOLD FBI HE ABUSED THEM
    https://theintercept.com/2018/02/07/...se-trump-aide/
    AS THE FBI conducted a background check on an incoming senior White House official last year, the bureau learned of the man’s history of domestic abuse. Rob Porter, a top aide to President Donald Trump, physically assaulted both of his previous wives, according to the two women. Porter’s first wife said she was physically abused for years, providing a photograph she took of herself after she said Porter hit her while on vacation in Florence, Italy — a photo she also shared with the FBI.

    During the background interviews for Porter’s security clearance related to his senior White House role, FBI agents interviewed the two women. The former wives told the FBI that Porter was abusive during their marriages, according to interviews with the women. For Porter, the FBI interviews marked a collision of his professional ascendancy and his sometimes violent private life.
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  4. #4204

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Trumps look how big my military is is likely a euphemism for something else in his mind.
    Something else in his mind? You mean the typical sexist anti-male* comment women use against men all the time? Or possibly do you mean, say: his significant other’s small ....?

    Apparently he saw a French parade and liked it.


    * it’s a new world where men have to clean up their act in references about women, so maybe women will come under the same politically/sexually correct pressures.


    “I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.”
    Only guys confident in their themselves and their bodies (regardless what they look like) would get that joke. Ones with low self esteem would be offended.
    Last edited by Gemini; 11-02-2018 at 12:28 PM.
    I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.

  5. #4205

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Trumps look how big my military is is likely a euphemism for something else in his mind.
    Something else in his mind? You mean the typical sexist anti-male* comment women use against men all the time? Or possibly do you mean, say: his significant other’s small ....?

    Apparently he saw a French parade and liked it.


    * it’s a new world where men have to clean up their act in references about women, so maybe women will come under the same politically/sexually correct pressures.


    “I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.”
    Only guys confident in their themselves and their bodies (regardless what they look like) would get that joke. Ones with low self esteem would be offended.
    Good spin. Sounds like something Trump would say in his own defense of comments about women.

  6. #4206

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    Why a parade in the first place?

    Did they just win a war? Nope.

    Did the Pentagon suggest that it would improve moral? Nope.

    Has the military not been given lots of thanks for their work in the past few years? Nope, they get plenty of thanks.

    Do they have extra money in the budget to spend on a parade? Nope.

    Would it be a better idea to take the money that would be wasted on a parade, and use it to improve the VA and health benefits for veterans? YES!
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    But that doesn't let Trump stand there and have all the troops march past him and salute him.



    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...nnsylvania-ave

    But what would Eisenhower know, just being a General and President? Sad!

  8. #4208

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Trumps look how big my military is is likely a euphemism for something else in his mind.
    Something else in his mind? You mean the typical sexist anti-male* comment women use against men all the time? Or possibly do you mean, say: his significant other’s small ....?

    Apparently he saw a French parade and liked it.


    * it’s a new world where men have to clean up their act in references about women, so maybe women will come under the same politically/sexually correct pressures.


    “I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.”
    Only guys confident in their themselves and their bodies (regardless what they look like) would get that joke. Ones with low self esteem would be offended.
    Good spin. Sounds like something Trump would say in his own defense of comments about women.
    Why thanks .
    I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.

  9. #4209

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Trumps look how big my military is is likely a euphemism for something else in his mind.
    Something else in his mind? You mean the typical sexist anti-male* comment women use against men all the time? Or possibly do you mean, say: his significant other’s small ....?

    Apparently he saw a French parade and liked it.


    * it’s a new world where men have to clean up their act in references about women, so maybe women will come under the same politically/sexually correct pressures.


    “I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.”
    Only guys confident in their themselves and their bodies (regardless what they look like) would get that joke. Ones with low self esteem would be offended.
    Good spin. Sounds like something Trump would say in his own defense of comments about women.
    Why thanks .
    No problem. It may all have some truth to it but just pointing out the: new obvious. There’s no longer tolerance for such cliches.

    Similarly, you’re right leaning, fiscally conservative and all that and among a bunch of conservatives and you say you support higher taxes for a good sensible reason, you’ll be labelled a lefty, a socialist, an *****. This goes both ways. For those on the left suggesting lower taxes you’re a traitor to the faith. It’s all about cliches and stupidity without regard to reason and actual thinking.

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    ^Don't recall saying I support higher taxes. Could you find the source for that.
    As for 'no tolerance for such cliches'. Are you speaking for the whole forum, 2 or 3 others or just yourself. The reason I ask is that I have found most people on here have not had their humour gene removed. Most of them are confident enough to shake it off. If they thought everything that was posted an offence they would be hitting the report button constantly. If it offended your delicate sensibilities maybe place me on ignore.
    I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.

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    Oh I see, Porters former wives were abused by him because they weren't strong enough or didn't have "good instincts". Gotcha.

    Kellyanne Conway not worried about Rob Porter abusing 'strong' Hope Hicks


    "Conway cited the 29-year-old White House communications director’s intelligence and “excellent instincts” on CNN after being played a clip of one of Porter’s ex-wives expressing concern about Hicks, saying, "if he hasn’t already been abusive with Hope, he will.”


    “I am very close to Hope Hicks and I don't worry about her in that respect,” Conway said. “I'm sorry for any suffering this woman has endured, but in the case of Hope, I rarely met somebody so strong with such excellent instincts, and loyalty, and smarts. I didn't have the presence of mind and professional capabilities at her age that I see in her every single day.”"

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ke...rticle/2648761

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    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    ^Don't recall saying I support higher taxes. Could you find the source for that.
    As for 'no tolerance for such cliches'. Are you speaking for the whole forum, 2 or 3 others or just yourself. The reason I ask is that I have found most people on here have not had their humour gene removed. Most of them are confident enough to shake it off. If they thought everything that was posted an offence they would be hitting the report button constantly. If it offended your delicate sensibilities maybe place me on ignore.
    Nope, didn’t hurt my sensibilities at all. Just giving you a heads up that as every movement goes from righteous to ridiculous and men will have to watch what they say about women, so too will women eventually have to watch what they say about men. (Two-way streets and all that.) It’s not that any of it ever hurt anyone’s sensibilities but because it’s simply case of handing someone a gift in terms of something they can turn around and use against them. (It’s always been that way but now near anything gets spun into a weapon.) I known women who's language about men would put Trump’s so called locker room talk to shame.

    As for the taxes - that was just an example of the tribalism. Left vs right, women vs men, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?
    A sitting president (or whoever needs to approve it) should have the power to spy on a political opponent - when it makes sense to do so. Would you want a blanket rule, no exceptions, preventing intelligence gathering on any and all candidates and their campaign workers and supporters?
    Last edited by KC; 11-02-2018 at 07:42 PM.

  15. #4215

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    MrNazi would prefer that his chosen candidate be able to conspire with a hostile, foreign power without anyone being able to stop him. That's democracy! MAGA, or is that MRGA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?
    A sitting president (or whoever needs to approve it) should have the power to spy on a political opponent - when it makes sense to do so.
    So Trump, now that he is president, should have the power to spy on all his opponents right now?

    That's completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?


    BTW, 89% of people polled are against the parade, including much of the military brass. Are you saying that 89% of people are Trump opponents?

    I highly doubt that any American who believes in the Constitution of the United States, be they Republican, Democratic or other, are "OK" with any sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents. You are suggesting that the FBI, the FISA Judge, the DOJ and the President were all involved in a huge conspiracy?



    Regarding your erroneous spying allegation, that is a sweeping generalization without specifics or reference. You just cannot throw mud and hope it sticks or poison the well just like Trump does, by suggesting that the FBI and the DOJ, both run by Trump's appointees are covering up this whole spying issue and even after a year in Office, Trump has not proven any of his claims that they are all against him.

    Can you be more specific? Are you talking about Carter Page? He is the only one referred to in the Nunes memo.

    First off, he was under FBI surveillance for possible due to his consorting with Russian spies and there were legal FISA warrants as far back as 2013 - 2014 when he was not involved in any election campaign and well before the Steele Dossier was even begun.

    Page served as a foreign-policy advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 Presidential campaign. In September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials investigated alleged contacts between Page and Russian officials subject to U.S. sanctions, including Igor Sechin. After news reports began to appear describing Page's links to Russia and Putin's government, Page stepped down from his role in the Trump campaign.


    Shortly after Page resigned from the Trump campaign, the Federal Bureau of Investigation obtained a warrant from the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in October 2016 to surveil Page's communications. To issue the warrant, a federal judge concluded there was probable cause to believe that Page was a foreign agent knowingly engaging in clandestine intelligence for the Russian government. Page was the only American who was directly targeted with a FISA warrant in 2016 as part of the Russia probe, and the initial 90-day warrant was repeatedly renewed.

    Foreign policy and links to Russia
    In 1998, Page joined the Eurasia Group, a strategy consulting firm, but left three months later. In 2017, Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer recalled on his Twitter feed that Page's strong pro-Russian stance was "not a good fit" for the firm and that Page was its "most wackadoodle" alumnus.[19] Stephen Sestanovich later described Page's foreign-policy views as having "an edgy Putinist resentment" and a sympathy to Russian leader Vladimir Putin's criticisms of the United States. Over time, Page became increasingly critical of United States foreign policy toward Russia, and more supportive of Putin, with a United States official describing Page as "a brazen apologist for anything Moscow did". Page is frequently quoted by Russian state television, where he is presented as a "famous American economist". In 2013, Russian intelligence operatives attempted to recruit Page, and one described him as enthusiastic about business opportunities in Russia but an "*****".[ News accounts in 2017 indicated that because of these ties to Russia, Page had been the subject of a warrant pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in 2014, at least two years earlier than was indicated in the stories concerning his role in the 2016 Presidential campaign of Donald Trump.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page


    So, if you are willing to hang your hat on Carter Page, who even the Russian thought was an *****, and you don't understand that there may be warrantable reasons why the FBI had to legally obtain a FISA warrant to place Carter Page and his Russian contacts under surveillance when Page may have been conspiring to commit an act of Treason, a Federal offence

    In large print and bold for those hard of understanding and tinfoil hat conspiracists.
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 11-02-2018 at 09:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?
    A sitting president (or whoever needs to approve it) should have the power to spy on a political opponent - when it makes sense to do so. Would you want a blanket rule, no exceptions, preventing intelligence gathering on any and all candidates and their campaign workers and supporters?

    I don't agree. Unless you were being sarcastic.

    A sitting president who is spying on a political opponent is the same type of President who says it is treason not to clap when he speaks and the type of President who demands YUGE military parades.
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 11-02-2018 at 09:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?

    BTW, 89% of people polled are against the parade
    Oh, stop it with your polls. Their results are whatever the pollster wants to convince you of.

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    The 2016 FISA warrant obtained with the Steele propaganda tabloid and a Yahoo news article (which should never be admissible as evidence in any court) is being used to cover up the illegal spying that Obama et al did on Trump. All these tenuous connections to "Russia" they push to the press is simply their way of trying to give themselves plausible deniability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?

    BTW, 89% of people polled are against the parade
    Oh, stop it with your polls. Their results are whatever the pollster wants to convince you of.
    Soon as you stop with your sweeping generalizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The 2016 FISA warrant obtained with the Steele propaganda tabloid and a Yahoo news article (which should never be admissible as evidence in any court) is being used to cover up the illegal spying that Obama et al did on Trump. All these tenuous connections to "Russia" they push to the press is simply their way of trying to give themselves plausible deniability.
    What illegal spying that Obama et al did on Trump? What evidence do you have? Just because Trump said Obama wire tapped his phones? That is not evidence because Trump has had a year to bring forth his claims and he said he had evidence but he has not. He is in control of the White House and his Party is in control of both Houses and still not a shred of evidence that Obama wire tapped Trump's phones.

    Carter Page was under surveillance for many years before the Steele Dossier. You still haven't figured that out yet, have you.

    NONE. ZERO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    ^Don't recall saying I support higher taxes. Could you find the source for that.
    As for 'no tolerance for such cliches'. Are you speaking for the whole forum, 2 or 3 others or just yourself. The reason I ask is that I have found most people on here have not had their humour gene removed. Most of them are confident enough to shake it off. If they thought everything that was posted an offence they would be hitting the report button constantly. If it offended your delicate sensibilities maybe place me on ignore.
    Nope, didn’t hurt my sensibilities at all. Just giving you a heads up that as every movement goes from righteous to ridiculous and men will have to watch what they say about women, so too will women eventually have to watch what they say about men. (Two-way streets and all that.) It’s not that any of it ever hurt anyone’s sensibilities but because it’s simply case of handing someone a gift in terms of something they can turn around and use against them. (It’s always been that way but now near anything gets spun into a weapon.) I known women who's language about men would put Trump’s so called locker room talk to shame.

    As for the taxes - that was just an example of the tribalism. Left vs right, women vs men, etc.
    I've posted on this forum for quite a number of years and read a lot of funny/crude/outrageous things. At one time the word for a few months was 'douche'. It seemed that every one was one. From politicians, guys who drove jacked up trucks, anybody who seemed shady, anybody who did not fit the narrative of the thread etc. Every one was a 'douche'. Yet a 'douche' is used for vaginal cleansing. An intimate hygienic practice. Never once did I report a post on the use of this word as I realized it was being used to push home a point, to vent someone's spleen and to maybe raise the odd laugh. I'm not going to sweat the small stuff (or pet the sweaty stuff).
    I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Trump's opponents are OK with the idea of a sitting president using his country's spy agencies to spy on political opponents, but are FURIOUS at the thought of a military parade?
    Both of these ideas are the delusional fantasies of the same demented, sociopathic, fascist narcissist.
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    Someone tried terrorizing the Trump family this morning. Secret Service is investigating.

    Envelope with white powder sent to Trump Jr's wife. She, and two others, were sent to hospital for precautions. The powder has been analyzed and confirmed as non-hazardous.

    Scary stuff!

    https://ca.yahoo.com/news/police-don...183828128.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Someone tried terrorizing the Trump family this morning. Secret Service is investigating.

    Envelope with white powder sent to Trump Jr's wife. She, and two others, were sent to hospital for precautions. The powder has been analyzed and confirmed as non-hazardous.

    Scary stuff!

    https://ca.yahoo.com/news/police-don...183828128.html
    Very scary!

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    Yup, scary stuff.

    2011 White House shooting

    The 2011 White House shooting occurred on November 11, 2011, when Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, an unemployed 21-year-old man, fired a semi-automatic rifle at the White House, the official residence of the U.S. President in Washington, D.C. At least seven bullets hit the second floor. Neither the president nor First Lady Michelle Obama were home at the time, although their youngest daughter, Sasha, and the first lady's mother, Marian Shields Robinson, were.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_White_House_shooting
    One of Trump's cocaine shipments most likely. <sniff, sniff>

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    What does a shooter from 2011 have to do with Trump?

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    I don't know. About as much as the constantly bringing up Hillary and Obama does by <blocked user> and Half. Lady and yourself does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Someone tried terrorizing the Trump family this morning. Secret Service is investigating.

    Envelope with white powder sent to Trump Jr's wife. She, and two others, were sent to hospital for precautions. The powder has been analyzed and confirmed as non-hazardous.

    Scary stuff!

    https://ca.yahoo.com/news/police-don...183828128.html
    Very scary!
    The things peoplekind do.
    I have conversed with the worst kind of hectoring, bully pulpit smart-a**e*; dripping with virtuous self-aggrandizing sanctimony.................. and that's just on this forum.

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    Another one.

    DC cops launch probe after envelope filled with white powder sent to Obama’s DC office

    Police in Washington DC are launching an investigation after someone sent an envelope with white powder to former President Barack Obama’s offices in Washington DC.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/dc-...mas-dc-office/

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    Maybe he and Trump can work out a deal to be cellmates.

    Israeli Law Enforcement Recommend Bibi Netanyahu Be Charged With Bribery

    Concluding a yearlong investigation, the police are prepared to offer a damning summary of their findings in two corruption cases: a gifts-for-favors affair known as Case 1000, and a second scandal, dubbed Case 2000, in which Mr. Netanyahu is suspected of back-room dealings with Arnon Mozes, publisher of the popular daily Yediot Aharonot, to ensure more favorable coverage.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...-with-bribery/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Another one.

    DC cops launch probe after envelope filled with white powder sent to Obama’s DC office

    Police in Washington DC are launching an investigation after someone sent an envelope with white powder to former President Barack Obama’s offices in Washington DC.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/dc-...mas-dc-office/

    Why would someone send that to Obama's former office? Who is using it right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Why would someone send that to Obama's former office? Who is using it right now?



    Trump.

    He's banging hookers in it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Someone tried terrorizing the Trump family this morning. Secret Service is investigating.

    Envelope with white powder sent to Trump Jr's wife. She, and two others, were sent to hospital for precautions. The powder has been analyzed and confirmed as non-hazardous.

    Scary stuff!

    https://ca.yahoo.com/news/police-don...183828128.html
    Very scary!
    The things peoplekind do.
    After a while it kinda rolls off the tongue doesn’t it.

    However I object to the use of “kind” being attached to any reference to human beings. Humans are the nastiest thing this earth has ever seen. This narcissistic wording needs to change!!!! How about peoplesorts?
    Last edited by KC; 13-02-2018 at 02:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Why would someone send that to Obama's former office? Who is using it right now?
    It's Obama's current office. The "former" refers to his status as president.

    Police cleared the scene at the office, which Obama has leased since January 2017, and reportedly determined that the mysterious substance was baby powder.
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    Bwah-ha-ha-ha!!!!

    Sanders flails after she’s busted lying about Porter scandal: ‘We relay the best and most accurate information’

    “Christopher Wray said it was closed so who is telling the truth?” NBC correspondent Kristen Welker asked.


    “Both,” Sanders replied, later adding: “I can only give you the best information that I have.”


    “Everyday I think we can learn from the day before and strive to do better.”


    Sanders was also asked why she repeated incorrect information that was provided by Chief of Staff John Kelly about Porter.


    “We relay the best and most accurate information,” Sanders stated.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/sar...strive-better/

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    More lies are catching up with Trump. It is confirms that Trump was cheating on Melania while she was pregnant. Nice guy.

    and no, Trump was not being charitable to a prostitute destitute young woman.

    Trump's lawyer confirms payment made to adult performer Stormy Daniels
    Michael Cohen tells New York Times he paid $130K out of his own pocket and claims payment was lawful
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cohen-p...iels-1.4534488
    President Donald Trump's personal attorney said Tuesday he paid $130,000 US out of his own pocket to a porn actress who allegedly had a sexual relationship with Trump in 2006.


    Michael Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times that he was not reimbursed by the Trump Organization or the Trump campaign for the payment to Stormy Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford.


    Cohen wrote, "The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone."


    - Trump lashes out at 'false accusations' of sexual misconduct, Democrat Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
    - Women who accuse Trump of sexual misconduct call for Capitol Hill investigation


    Cohen told the Times he had delivered a similar statement to the Federal Election Commission in response to a complaint filed by Common Cause, a government watchdog group.


    Common Cause had asked the FEC to investigate the source of the $130,000 payment and determine whether it represented an excessive campaign contribution. Cohen told the Times, "The allegations in the complaint are factually unsupported and without legal merit."

    The Wall Street Journal reported in January that Cohen had arranged the payment to Clifford in October 2016 to keep her from publicly discussing the alleged sexual encounter during the presidential campaign. Cohen denied there was an affair.

    A week later, In Touch magazine published a 2011 interview with Clifford in which she claimed she and Trump had a sexual encounter after meeting at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Nev., a year after Trump's marriage to his third wife, Melania
    I bet those Russian prostitutes wished they got as much cash...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    More lies are catching up with Trump. It is confirms that Trump was cheating on Melania while she was pregnant. Nice guy.

    and no, Trump was not being charitable to a prostitute destitute young woman.

    Trump's lawyer confirms payment made to adult performer Stormy Daniels
    Michael Cohen tells New York Times he paid $130K out of his own pocket and claims payment was lawful
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cohen-p...iels-1.4534488
    President Donald Trump's personal attorney said Tuesday he paid $130,000 US out of his own pocket to a porn actress who allegedly had a sexual relationship with Trump in 2006.


    Michael Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times that he was not reimbursed by the Trump Organization or the Trump campaign for the payment to Stormy Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford.


    Cohen wrote, "The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone."


    - Trump lashes out at 'false accusations' of sexual misconduct, Democrat Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
    - Women who accuse Trump of sexual misconduct call for Capitol Hill investigation


    Cohen told the Times he had delivered a similar statement to the Federal Election Commission in response to a complaint filed by Common Cause, a government watchdog group.


    Common Cause had asked the FEC to investigate the source of the $130,000 payment and determine whether it represented an excessive campaign contribution. Cohen told the Times, "The allegations in the complaint are factually unsupported and without legal merit."

    The Wall Street Journal reported in January that Cohen had arranged the payment to Clifford in October 2016 to keep her from publicly discussing the alleged sexual encounter during the presidential campaign. Cohen denied there was an affair.

    A week later, In Touch magazine published a 2011 interview with Clifford in which she claimed she and Trump had a sexual encounter after meeting at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Nev., a year after Trump's marriage to his third wife, Melania
    I bet those Russian prostitutes wished they got as much cash...
    I’d bet that any such Russian women would have been put ‘in storage’.

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    From the FBI testimony yesterday, it appears that the FBI Wwarned the White House about Rob Porter FOUR TIMES! The last one was in July of 2017.

    The official story from the White House is that they acted upon news ( you know, the Fake News Media) 40 minutes after finding out last week.

    More like the cover-up that had been going on for many months was discovered by the free and independent Press and the WH was forced to act.

    Will the lying Sanders, Conway and Kelly be forced to resign for lying to the public? Nope. They have a President who likes guys who beat women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    More lies are catching up with Trump. It is confirms that Trump was cheating on Melania while she was pregnant. Nice guy.

    and no, Trump was not being charitable to a prostitute destitute young woman.

    Trump's lawyer confirms payment made to adult performer Stormy Daniels
    Michael Cohen tells New York Times he paid $130K out of his own pocket and claims payment was lawful
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cohen-p...iels-1.4534488
    President Donald Trump's personal attorney said Tuesday he paid $130,000 US out of his own pocket to a porn actress who allegedly had a sexual relationship with Trump in 2006.


    Michael Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times that he was not reimbursed by the Trump Organization or the Trump campaign for the payment to Stormy Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford.


    Cohen wrote, "The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone."


    - Trump lashes out at 'false accusations' of sexual misconduct, Democrat Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
    - Women who accuse Trump of sexual misconduct call for Capitol Hill investigation


    Cohen told the Times he had delivered a similar statement to the Federal Election Commission in response to a complaint filed by Common Cause, a government watchdog group.


    Common Cause had asked the FEC to investigate the source of the $130,000 payment and determine whether it represented an excessive campaign contribution. Cohen told the Times, "The allegations in the complaint are factually unsupported and without legal merit."

    The Wall Street Journal reported in January that Cohen had arranged the payment to Clifford in October 2016 to keep her from publicly discussing the alleged sexual encounter during the presidential campaign. Cohen denied there was an affair.

    A week later, In Touch magazine published a 2011 interview with Clifford in which she claimed she and Trump had a sexual encounter after meeting at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Nev., a year after Trump's marriage to his third wife, Melania
    I bet those Russian prostitutes wished they got as much cash...
    If you believe Cohen made that payment solely out the goodness of his heart, I have swampland in Florida near Mar a lago for you to buy. I suspect he was reimbursed by Trump, in either a direct or indirect way. He of course will probably not produce the billing records from his firm to refute this. There is probably a "consultation fee" or something similarly or ambiguously described, for approximately $130,000 in there somewhere, likely close to the date the payment he made to Stormy Daniels.

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    Wasn't Trump's lawyer Cohen, who made the payment himself, was stating a few weeks ago is on record of saying that the whole story was false?

    So who really is spreading FAKE NEWS?
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    This is the statement he gave to The NY Times

    “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”
    Notice that he only names the Trump Organization, and the Trump campaign? He doesn't say that Donald J. Trump wasn't involved in the transaction.

    Also, Stomy Daniels has said that by Cohen acknowledging the payment, the non-disclosure agreement has been voided, and she'll now tell her story. Should be interesting, especially now that we know it happened (people aren't paid and have NDAs for things that didn't happen).

    And the story isn't that he cheated on his wife, as that's between Trump and Melania, the story is that someone could blackmail him with that information, which leads us to wonder what else he's done that he could be blackmailed with...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Wasn't Trump's lawyer Cohen, who made the payment himself, was stating a few weeks ago is on record of saying that the whole story was false?

    So who really is spreading FAKE NEWS?
    Well they seem to be sticking to the story that Stormy and Donald did not have an affair or encounter. Of course she was paid $130,000 for her silence which they now admit, so she probably won't contradict them on whether it is true or not. If the allegations were not true, I doubt they would have paid her anything. I don't recall if they denied that payment previously - if they did, then the story is indeed shifting. However, the press has already reported what Stormy told others, before she was paid $130,000 for her silence and it seems different than what Trump and his lawyer are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    This is the statement he gave to The NY Times

    “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”
    Notice that he only names the Trump Organization, and the Trump campaign? He doesn't say that Donald J. Trump wasn't involved in the transaction.

    Also, Stomy Daniels has said that by Cohen acknowledging the payment, the non-disclosure agreement has been voided, and she'll now tell her story. Should be interesting, especially now that we know it happened (people aren't paid and have NDAs for things that didn't happen).

    And the story isn't that he cheated on his wife, as that's between Trump and Melania, the story is that someone could blackmail him with that information, which leads us to wonder what else he's done that he could be blackmailed with...?
    Seems like this is yet another case of his lawyers having to clean up after him, much like with the tweet where John Dowd stepped up and said "oh yeah, that was totally me who wrote that grammatically incorrect tweet that didn't use the proper conjugation for "pleaded" that any first year law student would get right."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...-tweet/547361/

    Although I guess in this case, it's likely that Cohen made the mess himself, which is a violation of campaign finance laws, and is doing his best to clean up after himself.

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    And it has opened a much larger can or worms. If he wasn't acting as Trump's lawyer, there not attorney-client privilege.

    WATCH: Former attorney general explains how Trump’s lawyer blew apart his own Stormy Daniels cover up

    “Attorney-client privilege, does Michael Cohen still enjoy that in this scenario?” Tur asked.


    “There are a number of facts we don’t know, but the one thing that’s clear is this is not how a lawyer normally would act, lawyers usually represent their client, as a part of that, they might reach a settlement agreement and pass funds from the individual client onto someone they were settling with,” Milgram explained.


    “They would never personally pay. So that raises a question in my mind of whether he was acting as a lawyer,” Milgram continued. “It doesn’t appear to me here that he was.”


    “If we’re talking about the privilege, I think you have to be wearing a lawyer’s hat to invoke that,” Milgram continued.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/wat...daniels-cover/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    This is the statement he gave to The NY Times

    “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”
    Notice that he only names the Trump Organization, and the Trump campaign? He doesn't say that Donald J. Trump wasn't involved in the transaction.

    Also, Stomy Daniels has said that by Cohen acknowledging the payment, the non-disclosure agreement has been voided, and she'll now tell her story. Should be interesting, especially now that we know it happened (people aren't paid and have NDAs for things that didn't happen).

    And the story isn't that he cheated on his wife, as that's between Trump and Melania, the story is that someone could blackmail him with that information, which leads us to wonder what else he's done that he could be blackmailed with...?
    Seems like this is yet another case of his lawyers having to clean up after him, much like with the tweet where John Dowd stepped up and said "oh yeah, that was totally me who wrote that grammatically incorrect tweet that didn't use the proper conjugation for "pleaded" that any first year law student would get right."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...-tweet/547361/

    Although I guess in this case, it's likely that Cohen made the mess himself, which is a violation of campaign finance laws, and is doing his best to clean up after himself.
    Yes, once again Donald's lawyers clean up his mess. I suppose that is what they are well paid to do. Sometimes in involves taking the fall, like Dowd did, sometimes in cleaning up one mess another one is created, like Cohen did.

    I suspect the greater concern at the time the payment was made was that Stormy talking might hurt Donald's political chances. If she talks now, he is still the President, but there could be a messy divorce in his near future.

    I wonder if in his quest for adulation and power, Donald fully realized or understood how brightly the spotlight shines on public figures. You can't get away with all the shady stuff a person who owns a private company might be able to more quietly do.

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    And, of course, Jeff Sessions Justice Department declined to press charges. Those veterans have enough money without eating into my vacation money.
    Taxpayers Covered Trump Cabinet Member's $122K Family Vacation in Europe, Thanks to Counterfeit Email


    "The story first broke in the pages of the Washington Post this past September. Within days of arriving in Europe for the Ministerial Summit on Veterans Affairs in London, Secretary Shulkin and his wife had taken in a Wimbledon championship tennis match and done a fair amount of shopping and sightseeing during a junket in which the secretary also met with Danish and British officials to discuss veterans’ health issues. An internal investigation was launched after questions were raised by the Post over why exactly taxpayers had picked up the secretary’s wife’s tab.


    Fraud, it turns out, is the answer.

    Shulkin’s chief of staff, Vivieca Wright Simpson, altered emails from an aide to make it appear as if Shulkin was being honored at a dinner in Denmark, the inspector general’s investigation found. Were Shulkin to receive an honor or award of some kind, it would then be appropriate for his wife to accompany him on the trip. There is no indication in the inspector general’s report that the dinner honoring Shulkin ever took place."

    https://gizmodo.com/taxpayers-covere...-va-1823004920

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    This story is just going to be YUGE!

    Now we know why Cohen was willing to pay for the Trump story.

    A book deal by Trump's lawyer? Is a movie in the works?



    Porn star who alleged Trump affair: I can now tell my story
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/porn-st...tory-1.3803526
    NEW YORK -- Stormy Daniels, the porn star whom Donald Trump's attorney acknowledges paying $130,000 just before Election Day, believes she is now free to discuss an alleged sexual encounter with the man who is now president, her manager told The Associated Press Wednesday.

    At the same time, developments in the bizarre case are fueling questions about whether such a payment could violate federal campaign finance laws.


    Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, believes that Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, invalidated a non-disclosure agreement after two news stories were published Tuesday: one in which Cohen told The New York Times he made the six-figure payment with his personal funds, and another in the Daily Beast, which reported that Cohen was shopping a book proposal that would touch on Daniels' story, said the manager, Gina Rodriguez.

    "Everything is off now, and Stormy is going to tell her story," Rodriguez said.


    At issue is what, exactly, happened inside a Lake Tahoe, Nevada, hotel room in 2006 between Trump, then a reality TV star, and Clifford, who was promoting a porn production company during a celebrity golf tournament.


    In the years since, Clifford has claimed that she and Trump had sex once and then carried on a subsequent yearslong platonic relationship. But she has also, through a lawyer, denied the two had an affair. Trump's lawyer, Cohen, has denied there was ever an affair.

    I hear a movie is in the works with John Goodman playing the spankable 45th President, Director Vladimir Putin, Script Writer Michael Cohen, Director of Photography Bill Clinton, Stunt Coordinator Rob Porter, Key Grip Anthony Weiner and starring Stormy Daniels as herself... LOL

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    The recent school shooting posts are now under US politics and not in this thread.

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    Donald Trump, a Playboy Model, and a System for Concealing Infidelity

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...karen-mcdougal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudly View Post
    Donald Trump, a Playboy Model, and a System for Concealing Infidelity

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...karen-mcdougal
    And more here:

    The National Enquirer’s Fervor for Trump | The New Yorker
    The tabloid is defined by its predatory spirit. Why has it embraced the President with such sycophantic zeal?
    By Jeffrey Toobin

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...rvor-for-trump

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    In a tweet, the president rejected accusations from Rachel Crooks, a then-22-year-old secretary in a neighboring office building, who told The Washington Post that Trump grabbed her and began forcibly kissing her upon meeting him in 2006.

    "A woman I don’t know and, to the best of my knowledge, never met, is on the FRONT PAGE of the Fake News Washington Post saying I kissed her (for two minutes yet) in the lobby of Trump Tower 12 years ago," the president wrote on Twitter.

    "Never happened!" he added.

    "Who would do this in a public space with live security cameras running. Another False Accusation. Why doesn’t @washingtonpost report the story of the women taking money to make up stories about me? One had her home mortgage paid off. Only @FoxNews so reported...doesn’t fit the Mainstream Media narrative."
    Trump is denying something that he wasn't accused of, which is typical for him...

    The Post published the claims Tuesday morning in a profile of Crooks, now 35, who is running for state office in Ohio. She said, however, that the incident happened on the 24th floor of the Manhattan office building. The Post noted that she had called on Trump during a news conference to release the security tapes from the 24th floor that day, but he never responded.
    Typical Trump. Typical.

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    News like this must have the federal GOP quivering in their space boots.

    HUGE: Democrats flip Kentucky seat Trump won by 49 points, making this the 37th red-to-blue pickup

    Break out the bourbon—Democrats just won their 37th red-to-blue state legislative flip of the cycle. This latest win came in Kentucky, where former state Rep. Linda Belcher (not to be confused another important Linda Belcher) defeated Republican Rebecca Johnson 68-32 percent in the 49th state House District.


    This seat went for Donald Trump in a 72-23 landslide in 2016, making Belcher’s win tonight an astonishing 86-point swing. Belcher herself lost this seat 50.4-49.6 percent in 2016 after flipping it from red to blue by a 53-47 margin in 2014. (She’d previously lost HD-49 in 2012 after serving two terms.) The Republican who ousted Belcher in 2016 was Dan Johnson, the self-styled “Pope” of the controversial Heart of Fire church.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...to-blue-pickup

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