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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Israel bans Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib hours after President Trump takes to Twitter.

    This morning, Israel reverses their position and will allow Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib into their country.
    And now Rep Tlaib is refusing to go to Israel now that she is allowed.

    Just a vile political stunt by another vile politician.
    Vile? Which one are you referring to? There seems to be a tit-for-tat series of political stunts occurring here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump abandons plans to buy Greenland after being advised that the island is not suitable for golf courses.

    Trump complained that calling it 'Greenland' was 'Fake News' and the Dens were at fault for misleading him.

    Trump was further advised that the Democrats did not own Denmark.
    Putin then called Trump to scold him for such a poor execution of their plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Israel bans Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib hours after President Trump takes to Twitter.

    This morning, Israel reverses their position and will allow Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib into their country.

    And now Rep Tlaib is refusing to go to Israel now that she is allowed.

    Just a vile political stunt by another vile politician.
    Yes, Trump is vile

    She was only allowed under strict conditions including canceling of her meetings.

    Coming from a US ally that declares itself a free democracy, that an elected Congresswoman would be under such a short leash, no wonder why she canceled.

    Sounds like the government of Israel and Trump are scared of her.
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    2008 deal:

    Florida Officials Let ‘Jailed’ Jeffrey Epstein See Alleged Accomplices

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...dia-marcinkova

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump abandons plans to buy Greenland after being advised that the island is not suitable for golf courses.

    Trump complained that calling it 'Greenland' was 'Fake News' and the Dens were at fault for misleading him.

    Trump was further advised that the Democrats did not own Denmark.
    Putin then called Trump to scold him for such a poor execution of their plan.
    Nah, Trump just thought it would mean free danishes for life.
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    "What the hell is all this ice doing here? I thought this place was called Greenland!"

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    Greenland has ice.Iceland is warm.

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    Is Slate magazine real news? I can't tell anymore. But they did allegedly receive and publish leaked audio from a meeting at the New York Times where their Executive Editor Dean Baquet literally tells everyone to redirect their emphasis from the Russian Collusion story and start shifting emphasis to "Trump is a racist" stories.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    This is literally how news rooms shift the news cycle every week or so in order to draw ratings. They don't report what's happening, they just write stories about whatever they want their liberal followers to eat up and talk about at the time. Just look at how the discussion here changes every time another left-leaner posts their latest panic over Trump (whatever the news decides that is).

    Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating everything the journalists are trying to get you to think. They call it news "programming" for a reason.

    I think everyone would love some news sources that simply report only facts, and report them in their in their entirety instead of always injecting their own opinions in the headlines and the articles.

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    Slate, about 1,000 times more reputable than your Twitter sources.

    Slate does have a strong left wing bias which is a reason why I don't use it much
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabi...m/slate/%3famp
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 18-08-2019 at 12:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Is Slate magazine real news? I can't tell anymore. But they did allegedly receive and publish leaked audio from a meeting at the New York Times where their Executive Editor Dean Baquet literally tells everyone to redirect their emphasis from the Russian Collusion story and start shifting emphasis to "Trump is a racist" stories.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    This is literally how news rooms shift the news cycle every week or so in order to draw ratings. They don't report what's happening, they just write stories about whatever they want their liberal followers to eat up and talk about at the time. Just look at how the discussion here changes every time another left-leaner posts their latest panic over Trump (whatever the news decides that is).

    Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating everything the journalists are trying to get you to think. They call it news "programming" for a reason.

    I think everyone would love some news sources that simply report only facts, and report them in their in their entirety instead of always injecting their own opinions in the headlines and the articles.
    Reporting facts doesn’t sell. Also why do you differentiate by saying “liberal followers”? All followers of every media, blog or nutcase are followers because they follow. It’s just human nature and it’s efficient - and it applies to all.

    Where do you get your news? How are your sources and your reactions any different?

    You’re own username here is MrOilers. (You didn’t use Sports or MrSports but chose MrOilers. That’s always been interesting for a number of reasons. )

    So anyway - on media as a business and therefore it’s story selection, ever watch sports news during a strike? Five or ten minutes to cover any of the many other sports and instead they produce strike news (which is business and politics but not exactly sports news. And viewers eat it up.
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  11. #9711

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    MrOilers has jinxed the real team since he appropriated the moniker.

    He should be run out of town on a rail....
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  12. #9712

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Slate, about 1,000 times more reputable than your Twitter sources.
    What are you talking about? That link was posted on Slate's Twitter account:

    https://twitter.com/Slate/status/1163283184437604353

    I think you need to read up on what Twitter is and how it works.

  13. #9713

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    No, the link you gave was

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    NOT Twitter.

    Anyone can have a Twitter account and it is not considered media news.

    Even some old fart that lies 20 times a day can post on Twitter and only the gullible believes everything he posts without question or discernment.
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 18-08-2019 at 09:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    No, the link you gave was

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    NOT Twitter.

    Anyone can have a Twitter account and it is not considered media news.

    Even some old fart that lies 20 times a day can post on Twitter and only the gullible believes everything he posts without question or discernment.

    That's the same link Slate posted on their verified Twitter page (which is where I found it).

    It's 2019, grandpa. Stop looking silly and learn how the media uses Twitter to spread links to their content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Is Slate magazine real news? I can't tell anymore. But they did allegedly receive and publish leaked audio from a meeting at the New York Times where their Executive Editor Dean Baquet literally tells everyone to redirect their emphasis from the Russian Collusion story and start shifting emphasis to "Trump is a racist" stories.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html

    This is literally how news rooms shift the news cycle every week or so in order to draw ratings. They don't report what's happening, they just write stories about whatever they want their liberal followers to eat up and talk about at the time. Just look at how the discussion here changes every time another left-leaner posts their latest panic over Trump (whatever the news decides that is).

    Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating everything the journalists are trying to get you to think. They call it news "programming" for a reason.

    I think everyone would love some news sources that simply report only facts, and report them in their in their entirety instead of always injecting their own opinions in the headlines and the articles.
    More here but not a biased spin as you provided, but an actual quotation. Here’s more on your executive bias:



    Inside the New York Times town hall.

    “Staffers repeatedly asked Baquet about the paper’s reluctance to use the word racist, in part because his explanations seemed inconsistent. Calling it a “bizarre litmus test,” Baquet argued it was “more powerful” to avoid directly using the label. “The best way to capture a remark, like the kinds of remarks the president makes, is to use them, to lay it out in perspective,” he said. “That is much more powerful than the use of a word.” ...”

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ranscript.html
    Bolding mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    MrOilers has jinxed the real team since he appropriated the moniker.

    He should be run out of town on a rail....
    to montreal???
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    MrOilers has jinxed the real team since he appropriated the moniker.

    He should be run out of town on a rail....
    to montreal???
    Hahaha

    What ever did happen to Montreal PRT’s loyalty to Edmonton?

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    Look who is still obsessing about the 2016 election...

    TRUMP, CRANKING THE CRAZY TO 11, SAYS GOOGLE COST HIM “16 MILLION VOTES”

    Donald Trump has spent a significant portion of the past two and a half years soothing his deeply fragile ego by insisting he would have beaten Hillary Clinton in the popular vote if not for rampant fraud. His argument has typically centered around the repeatedly discredited claim that “millions of people” voted illegally in the 2016 election, which he formed and then disbanded a presidential commission to investigate. On Monday, though, he proffered a new theory for why Clinton kicked his extremely sensitive *** by nearly 3 million votes
    Donald J. [email protected]
    Wow, Report Just Out! Google manipulated from 2.6 million to 16 million votes for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Election! This was put out by a Clinton supporter, not a Trump Supporter! Google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought! @JudicialWatch


    Hillary responds


    Hillary [email protected]
    The debunked study you’re referring to was based on 21 undecided voters. For context that’s about half the number of people associated with your campaign who have been indicted.


    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...e-popular-vote
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    Right-wing pundit scorched for claiming zero Republicans challenged Obama’s legitimacy

    On Monday, right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro made a head-turning claim: That President Donald Trump deserves respect because no Republicans ever questioned President Barack Obama’s legitimacy:

    Confronted with the fact that Trump himself promulgated the “Birther” conspiracy theory that Obama wasn’t born in the United States, Shapiro pled No True Scotsman, insisting that Trump didn’t really count as a “Republican figure” back in the early 2010s when he was spreading Birther lies — and that Republican officeholders at the time didn’t agree with the delegitimization of the president
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...66350444970958
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    “The Pope and Trump were on stage in front of a huge crowd.

    The Pope leaned towards Mr. Trump and said, “Do you know that with one little wave of my hand, I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but go deep into their hearts and for the rest of their lives whenever they speak of this day, they will rejoice!”

    Trump replied, “I seriously doubt that. With one little wave of your hand? Show me!”


    So the Pope slapped him”

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    All the evidence leaking out over the last few years indicates that Google is purposely using their search engine and search results to push certain politics and suppress others. They are doing a lot more work in China recently. The very last thing we need is our society is a Chinese-style authoritarian internet.

    It's not "the Russians" we need to worry about when it comes to our election tampering - the true threat is creeping in from China.

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    Well, Trump has done diddly squat about Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump's only worry about Russian election interference in the 2020 election is that Trump won't get enough of it.

    MrOilers, can you provide a source of your claim about this Google conspiracy theory? Not twitter this time, pleeease...

    Just because Trump makes a claim on Twitter, you drink his purple kool aid without question and ask for seconds



    Fact check: Trump falsely claims Google 'manipulated' millions of 2016 votes
    By Daniel Dale, CNN https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/polit...aim/index.html
    Washington (CNN)In a tweet on Monday, President Donald Trump made a sensational allegation about Google.

    "Wow, Report Just Out! Google manipulated from 2.6 million to 16 million votes for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Election! This was put out by a Clinton supporter, not a Trump Supporter! Google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought! @JudicialWatch," Trump wrote.

    He was referring to a study by psychologist Robert Epstein, which was discussed on Fox Business earlier on Monday.

    But Trump did not describe the research correctly. And the research itself has been called into question.

    Facts First: Epstein himself says Trump was wrong about his findings. Epstein did find "bias" in Google search results, but he says there is no evidence Google "manipulated" the results to favor Clinton. Also, critics of the study note that there is no definitive link between search results and voting behavior in presidential elections.


    First let's address what Epstein says Trump got wrong. Then we'll delve into Epstein's research.
    Trump's words and numbers were inaccurate

    Epstein, who testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in July, found what he alleges was a pro-Clinton bias in Google's search results.
    In an interview with CNN on Monday, Epstein said the pro-Clinton bias was "sufficient to have shifted between 2.6 and 10.4 million votes" to Clinton.
    There is no basis in Epstein's research for Trump's claim that the alleged bias might have affected "16 million" votes. Epstein did testify in July that big tech companies in general could potentially shift "upwards of 15 million votes" in the 2020 election, but he didn't claim that this happened in 2016.

    In the Monday interview, Epstein rejected Trump's claim that Google "manipulated" votes in 2016. He said he does not have firm evidence even that Google intentionally manipulated its search algorithm or results, let alone votes themselves.


    "I don't have any evidence that Google manipulated anything. I just have evidence that there was this bias -- highly statistically significantly bias," he said.
    Also Trump totally ignores the fact that Fox News was highly biased and acted as the Trump Campaign propaganda machine.

    Now that Fox becomes more factual and less biased, Trump has lashed out against Fox very viciously.
    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 20-08-2019 at 07:00 AM.
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    Senate Committee Testimony from Dr Robert Epstein on Search Engine Manipulation:

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c48084...tein-testimony

    He says that Google's biased search engine results alone gave Hillary Clinton (who he admits he voted for) an extra 2.6 million votes. He says that biases in search results may have preferentially-shifted as many as 78 million views towards one political party over the other. He later says that they have the ability to sway as many as 15 million votes to one candidate over the other.

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    Yeah, some in-depth study. Not even 100 people

    For this study, he had 95 people from 24 states, including 21 self-described undecided voters, conduct election-related searches using search engines Google, Yahoo and Bing.
    Criticism of the dataOther academics have joined Google in criticizing Epstein's methodology and conclusions.
    One issue is the quality of news sources.
    Google says one of its criteria for ranking news results is how authoritative a source is. Using Epstein's methodology, a search engine whose top results page did not feature an article from a far-right pro-Trump website, such as Breitbart, would be ranked as more biased in favor of Clinton than a search engine that did showcase Breitbart -- even if the first search engine highlighted a deeply informative Washington Post investigation about Trump's past and the second search engine highlighted Breitbart's pro-Trump puff piece.
    Epstein emphasized that he is not a Trump fan. But he argued that Google results should not be treating pro-Trump media as second-class "for whatever reason, whatever your excuse."
    "I've certainly met people that say Breitbart is a more reliable news source than the New York Times ... there's a lot of subjectivity that goes into these kinds of determinations," he said.
    Another issue, other academics say, is that Epstein's study did not establish a link between alleged bias in search results and voter behavior in 2016.
    Epstein said he came to the conclusion of bias sufficient to affect 2.6 million to 10.4 million votes based on what he has found in studies of national elections outside the US, including the 2010 Australian prime minister election and a 2014 Indian legislative election.
    In other words: Epstein did not test 2016 American voters to see if their Clinton-or-Trump choice had been changed by search results they got. He extrapolated from his previous studies.
    In an American presidential election, people tend to know so much about the two leading candidates, and are getting news from so many different sources, that it is not at all clear that search results would affect their preferences the same way they might in other settings where they have less information, said Michael McDonald, a political science professor and elections expert at the University of Florida.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/polit...aim/index.html

    Hyper extrapolation
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    All the evidence leaking out over the last few years indicates that Google is purposely using their search engine and search results to push certain politics and suppress others. They are doing a lot more work in China recently. The very last thing we need is our society is a Chinese-style authoritarian internet.

    It's not "the Russians" we need to worry about when it comes to our election tampering - the true threat is creeping in from China.
    It is indeed the Russians that have been tampering with elections in most western countries. China is no saint. Google is a free enterprise, and certain can push what ever its wants, no different that your buddy alex jones is free to do what ever he wants on his OWN domain. If (big if) google wants to censor hate speech and misinformation (again, referencing your good buddy Alex Jones), It can. Just like I can refuse to serve you at my restaurant (like what's happening to many top republicans in the states)
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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    Love how Trump is always accusing people of the exact thing he's up to.
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  27. #9727

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    Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    Yeah, not so much what Trump is claiming. Big surprise.

    The new report that Trump says shows Google 'manipulated' 2.6 million votes for Hillary Clinton is a 2-year-old study that a San Diego psychologist based on 95 people

    It turns out, the report Trump appears to have been referring to was a 2017 report by a San Diego psychologist with a history of feuding with Google. The report, which one expert on the US election process characterized to Business Insider as having a "weird" methodology and lots of "red flags," was based on 95 participants.

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    But Epstein told CNN on Monday that Trump misrepresented his findings, saying that they didn't prove Google actively "manipulated" millions of voters but rather that the bias he found in its search results was "sufficient to have shifted between 2.6 and 10.4 million votes" to Clinton.

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    Epstein had a public spat with Google in 2012 after the search engine warned users that his website had been infected by malware. Epstein also is quoted about Google's supposed search manipulation in a series of 2016 articles on Russian sites such as RT and Sputniknews.com that claimed the search engine was hiding information indicating Clinton had health problems.

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    But the 2015 study's findings were based on asking US residents to cast hypothetical votes for candidates in Australia's 2010 prime ministerial election based on information they saw in Google search results.

    Dr. Michael McDonald, an associate professor of political science at the University of Florida, expressed skepticism to Business Insider that Epstein's 2015 findings regarding Google's search rankings influencing American decisions about elections in Australia — a topic most American study participants would have little information about beforehand — could be applied directly to the US presidential elections.

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    For one, Epstein wrote in his report that after the study was completed, results from participants using Google's email service, Gmail, were discarded, thus changing the number of eligible participants to a lower, undisclosed number.


    Epstein said Gmail users were removed because some of their search queries appeared "automated" and, overall, those using Google's email service saw results that were far less biased than non-Gmail users.


    "That's a weird methodological choice to take some of your results and throw them out after you've done the experiment because they seem to not fit your designed story," Levitt said. "That's something that sets off a bunch of red flags."



    https://www.businessinsider.com/red-...rce=reddit.com

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    Another one of Trump's "fine people"

    Feds Arrest Neo-Nazi Trump Fan for Threatening to "Exterminate" Miami Hispanics
    JERRY IANNELLI | AUGUST 20, 2019

    "In 3 short years your entire Race your entire culture will Perish only then after I kill your Spic family I will permit you to die by hanging on Metal Wire [sic]," Lin allegedly wrote June 7. The next day, he told C.I. he planned to "enslave, rape, and use you like a baby-making machine. Once I'm finished with you I might just get rid of you like a piece of trash." The same day, he allegedly also said he would kill C.I. with a rifle while carrying a neo-Nazi dagger used by the SS.


    The messages only continued. He allegedly said he wanted to "exterminate" the "worthless Latin race." July 9, he sent more Nazi-referencing threats. "By the authority of ADOLF HITLER AND GOD I HEREBY DECLARE SPANISH AND ALL SPANISH-SPEAKING PEOPLE ILLEGAL," Lin allegedly wrote. "[T]hat's ALL I NEED AUTHORITY FROM ADOLF HITLER TO ACT. I FOLLOW ONLY ADOLF HITLER AND THEN GOD. THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME." He again threatened to kill every Hispanic person in Miami and at one point told C.I. he would "drink your blood until you die."


    The messages then trod pro-Trump territory. July 19, Lin allegedly wrote:


    I thank god every day Donald John Trump is President and that he will launch a Racial War and Crusade to keep the Niggers, Spics, and Muslims and any dangerous non-White or Ethnically or Culturally foreign group "In Line." By "in Line" it is meant that they will either be sent to "Concentration Camps" or dealt with Ruthlessly and Vigorously by the United States Military.

    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/n...-says-11247579

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    Trump actually tweeted this.

    Trump tweets image of enormous Trump Tower on Greenland







    https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...reenland-tower
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    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-spent...report-1455319
    President Donald Trump has spent nearly a third of his presidency visiting his business properties at taxpayer expense, according to a new report by the government watchdog group Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington.CREW has found over 2,300 conflicts of interest resulting from Trump's decision not to divest ownership of his global business empire upon entering office. The group used social media, news reports, Freedom of Information Act responses and other sources of information to tally these instances. The nonprofit added that there are likely more conflicts of interest than the ones they have been able to identify.
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    A very stable genius

    Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time....

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...61882945970176

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    OK, loyalty to who? To Trump? To America? To Israel? To Judaism?

    Trump says any Jew who votes Democratic is 'disloyal' or lacks knowledge
    Comments denounced by Jewish-American groups, but defended by Republican Jewish Coalition


    Showing a fresh willingness to play politics along religious and racial lines, U.S. President Donald Trump said Tuesday that American Jewish people who vote for Democrats show "either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."


    Trump's claim triggered a quick uproar from critics who said the president was trading in anti-Semitic stereotypes. It came amid his ongoing feud with Democratic congresswomen Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, both Muslim.


    Trump has closely aligned himself with Israel, including its conservative prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while the Muslim lawmakers have been outspoken critics of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Tlaib is a U.S.-born Palestinian American, while Omar was born in Somalia.

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    Trump's comments were denounced swiftly by Jewish American organizations.


    "This is yet another example of Donald Trump continuing to weaponize and politicize anti-Semitism," said Halie Soifer, executive director of the Jewish Democratic Council of America. "At a time when anti-Semitic incidents have increased — due to the president's emboldening of white nationalism — Trump is repeating an anti-Semitic trope."


    Logan Bayroff of the liberal J Street pro-Israel group said it was "no surprise that the president's racist, disingenuous attacks on progressive women of colour in Congress have now transitioned into smears against Jews."


    "It is dangerous and shameful for President Trump to attack the large majority of the American Jewish community as unintelligent and 'disloyal,"' Bayroff said. A number of groups noted that accusations of disloyalty have long been made against Jews, including in Europe during the 1930s.

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    A Pew Research Centre poll conducted in April found that among Jewish Americans, 42 per cent said Trump is favouring the Israelis too much, 6 per cent said he's favouring the Palestinians too much and 47 per cent said he's striking the right balance. Jews were more likely than Christians to say Trump favours the Israelis too much, 42per cent to 26 per cent.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-...edge-1.5254115


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    A very stable genius

    Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time....

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...61882945970176
    I believe the technical term to describe Mr. Trump's tweet is hissy fit.

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    Well for Trump, if your only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, then you see every problem as a nail.

    If your only talent is your mouth, then all you do is boast and lie...

    If your only friend is a Russian dictator, then you want him to join the G7...

    If the only book you ever read is Mein Kampf, then your world view is a xenophobic, racist narcissist...
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  36. #9736

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    There's some other reason he bailed on that trip... the hissy-fit was just a smokescreen. The real reason will come out eventually.

    BTW, a buddy picked me up a copy of Trumped! (https://www.amazon.com/Trumped-Insid.../dp/067173735X) from a garage sale, and even 30+ years ago Trump was a brainless *****-show like we see now.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-spent...report-1455319
    President Donald Trump has spent nearly a third of his presidency visiting his business properties at taxpayer expense, according to a new report by the government watchdog group Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington.CREW has found over 2,300 conflicts of interest resulting from Trump's decision not to divest ownership of his global business empire upon entering office. The group used social media, news reports, Freedom of Information Act responses and other sources of information to tally these instances. The nonprofit added that there are likely more conflicts of interest than the ones they have been able to identify.
    Seems to be pretty factual reporting.

    Any comment from our local foreign Trump fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post


    Trump actually tweeted this.

    Trump tweets image of enormous Trump Tower on Greenland







    https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...reenland-tower
    Shouldn’t it be green?

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    Cue the Hitler comparisons.

    Trump accuses Jewish Democrat voters of 'great disloyalty' - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49417157



    Hitler oath - Wikipedia

    “Prior to the decree, both members of the armed forces and civil servants had sworn loyalty to "the People and the Fatherland" (Volk und Vaterland); civil servants had additionally sworn to uphold the constitution and laws of Germany. The new law decreed that instead, both members of the armed forces and civil servants would swear an oath to Hitler personally.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    All the evidence leaking out over the last few years indicates that Google is purposely using their search engine and search results to push certain politics and suppress others. They are doing a lot more work in China recently. The very last thing we need is our society is a Chinese-style authoritarian internet.

    It's not "the Russians" we need to worry about when it comes to our election tampering - the true threat is creeping in from China.
    So you’d opt for Trump-style authoritarianism?
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    Seems that Trump may get re-elected because he’s a tariffic guy.




    Despite an Ongoing Trade War, Iowa Farmers Stick With President Trump

    “August 19, 2019

    In the U.S.-China trade war, no one has been hit harder than America's farmers. In Boone County, Iowa, Cheddar's J.D. Durkin spoke with Morey Hill, an Iowa soybean farmer, who is sticking with the president despite China's promise to stop buying U.S. agricultural products.”

    https://cheddar.com/media/despite-an...resident-trump


    US-China trade war is hurting farmers, but they're sticking with Trump

    “President Donald Trump may be a resort-dwelling real estate magnate who entered politics via golden escalator, but even a trade war with China hasn't tarnished his image as a champion for an unlikely group: farmers and ranchers.
    Farmers are one of the most visible casualties of the U.S.-China trade war, which escalated sharply this week as both sides landed blows that could hold potentially devastating consequences for U.S. agriculture.
    Yet farmers appear to be sticking by Trump — not just the Republican they largely supported in the 2016 election, but the trade warrior who has put their industries in China's sights. And while they're far from the largest group in Trump's corner, farmers could prove to be a crucial voting bloc in the 2020 election.
    ...”


    “The Purdue Center for Commercial Agriculture's latest producer survey, which was conducted last month and released Tuesday, showed a record-high 78% of farmers said they believe the trade war will ultimately benefit U.S. agriculture. That roughly matches Trump's overall approval rating of 79% among farmers, according to a Farm Pulse survey conducted around the same time.”


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/07/us-c...ith-trump.html
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    Way ahead of you. May, 2017, 4 months after taking office

    Comey was taken aback by Trump request for loyalty pledge

    As CNN reported, Comey's refusal to pledge loyalty is one of the reasons the President fired him, the other being the acceleration of the probe into alleged collusion between Trump's presidential campaign and Russia.


    The initial, official White House version of how and why Comey was fired was that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, fresh on the job, wrote a memo expressing concern about the way Comey had handled the Hillary Clinton email investigation.


    But mounting evidence suggests Comey was actually fired because of the Russian investigation.

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/polit...dge/index.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Way ahead of you. May, 2017, 4 months after taking office

    Comey was taken aback by Trump request for loyalty pledge

    As CNN reported, Comey's refusal to pledge loyalty is one of the reasons the President fired him, the other being the acceleration of the probe into alleged collusion between Trump's presidential campaign and Russia.


    The initial, official White House version of how and why Comey was fired was that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, fresh on the job, wrote a memo expressing concern about the way Comey had handled the Hillary Clinton email investigation.


    But mounting evidence suggests Comey was actually fired because of the Russian investigation.

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/polit...dge/index.html

    The actual dinner meeting and Trump's demand for a loyalty pledge happened only 7 days after Trump took office.

    https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproje...ey-firing.html

    Authoritarian autocrats who violate the Constitution, move fast once they seize power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Cue the Hitler comparisons.

    Trump accuses Jewish Democrat voters of 'great disloyalty' - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49417157



    Hitler oath - Wikipedia

    “Prior to the decree, both members of the armed forces and civil servants had sworn loyalty to "the People and the Fatherland" (Volk und Vaterland); civil servants had additionally sworn to uphold the constitution and laws of Germany. The new law decreed that instead, both members of the armed forces and civil servants would swear an oath to Hitler personally.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath
    Trump doubles down, double-doubles down, infinitely doubles down, claims he is like God.

    Trump promotes claim Jewish Israelis love him like he is 'King of Israel and second coming of God'

    Trump quotes conspiracy theorist claiming Israelis 'love him like he is the second coming of God,” Trump tweeted ...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9072951.html
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    From author Stephen Barnes on Facebook

    Steven Barnes
    If Jews who vote Democrat are "disloyal", and the majority of Jews vote Democrat, you have just officially proposed a reason to distrust the typical American Jew.

    https://www.facebook.com/steven.barn...Gca0tw&fref=nf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Cue the Hitler comparisons.

    Trump accuses Jewish Democrat voters of 'great disloyalty' - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49417157



    Hitler oath - Wikipedia

    “Prior to the decree, both members of the armed forces and civil servants had sworn loyalty to "the People and the Fatherland" (Volk und Vaterland); civil servants had additionally sworn to uphold the constitution and laws of Germany. The new law decreed that instead, both members of the armed forces and civil servants would swear an oath to Hitler personally.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath
    Trump doubles down, double-doubles down, infinitely doubles down, claims he is like God.

    Trump promotes claim Jewish Israelis love him like he is 'King of Israel and second coming of God'

    Trump quotes conspiracy theorist claiming Israelis 'love him like he is the second coming of God,” Trump tweeted ...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9072951.html
    Wayne Allyn Root sounds like he's right up Trump's alley.


    Wayne Allyn Root - Conspiracy theories

    Root was a leading proponent of the conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.[26] At one point, Root falsely claimed that Obama was not a student at Columbia University;[4] at another point, in an interview with Sean Hannity, Root said that he believed that Obama was a "foreign exchange student" at Columbia.[5] Root has described Obama as a "Marxist, anti-American, anti-Israel, globalist, middle class-hating, Muslim sympathizer".[5] He also claimed that Obama was gay, called him "Bathhouse Barry" and said that he had info from Obama's "friends in Chicago" about Obama's "sordid past".[5] He has described Obama as a "Manchurian candidate", possibly hired by the Bilderberg Group to destroy the United States and "kill all of us".[5]


    He promoted conspiracy theories around the murder of Seth Rich, and at various times suggested that Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Hillary Clinton, Donna Brazile, Bill Clinton, Eric Schneiderman and John Podesta were involved in the murder.[5]


    During the white supremacist Unite the Right rally, Root falsely claimed that the white supremacist James Alex Fields Jr. who killed Heather Heyer was "such B.S. Probably paid actors & infiltrators hired by Soros. No conservative I’ve ever met commits violence. EVER."[5]


    Root tweeted in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas shooting: "This is a real thing. Clearly Coordinated Muslim Terror attack. PRAY for our Vegas police. PRAY for victims. VERY bad. Awful."[27] It was later confirmed that the shooter was 64-year-old Mesquite, Nevada, resident Stephen Paddock.[28] Root then defended his original claim by tweeting: "Terrible day. Liberal fools criticizing me 4 reporting what I hear DIRECT from police & credible news sources. I report it as I hear it."[29]


    Root argued that Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election is motivated by "penis envy", because "Mueller’s is smaller than Trump’s."[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_...iracy_theories

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    Rudy steps in to explain what Trump meant. Or something.

    Rudy Giuliani accuses majority of US Jews of ‘disloyalty to Israel’ — and gets torn to pieces

    Writing on Twitter, Giuliani explained that Trump wasn’t saying Jewish Democrats were disloyal to America — rather, he was saying they were being disloyal to Israel.

    ---

    Accusing Jews of having “dual loyalty” to both the United States and Israel is an anti-Semitic slur that has been used to paint American Jews as foreign agents in their own country. Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) drew heavy criticism earlier this year when she said that members of Congress were so in lockstep in support for the Israeli government that it was akin to having “allegiance to a foreign country.”


    Omar, however, never explicitly said that it was American Jews who had “allegiance to a foreign country” — and now Giuliani is flat-out stating that American Jews should have dual loyalties to both America and Israel.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/rud...orn-to-pieces/
    And Donald agrees.

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    Video at the link




    “I am the chosen one.” —@realDonaldTrump just now.
    https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/s...05235193208834

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    ^ can you imagine the Republican reaction if Obama had said that....
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    The Christian right support Israel so that it can be destroyed in the end of days.

    Pastor Hagee’s Armageddon Politics

    For some apocalyptic Christians, the return of Jesus requires that Jews return to Israel (the ingathering or Aliyah), and rebuild the third Temple of Solomon on the hilltop Jews call the Temple Mount and Muslims call the Noble Sanctuary. Rebuilding the Temple of Solomon would violate the sanctity—and most likely destroy—the Islamic religious shrines now located on the hilltop. Some messianic Jews and apocalyptic Christians believe rebuilding the Temple of Solomon should take place anyway and this is a key (but not the only) factor in the growth of a movement called Christian Zionism.


    Apocalyptic, millennialist, and dispensationalist thinking has greatly influenced Pat Robertson and other Christian evangelical rightists including Jerry Falwell, John Hagee, and Joyce Meyer. This common worldview explains both their activist interest in U.S. foreign policy generally and their particular focus on the Middle East. The impact of such thinking is especially evident in their unqualified support for Israel and their Islamophobic opposition to Palestinian self-determination. The result of this politico-dual-religion amalgam is a movement called Christian Zionism, a source of Christian Right support for the U.S. wars against Afghanistan and Iraq and for a general U.S. presence in the Middle East. However, Christian Right support for Israel does not mean an unequivocal embrace of Jews. Anti-Jewish as well as anti-Islamic and anti-Arab themes have long formed a common stream running through Christian Right ideology and activism.


    Christian Right support for Israel comes in many forms, such as lobbying Congress and the administration to adopt pro-Israel policies, intervening in the foreign policy debate on the Palestine-Israel issue, and funding the migration of Eastern European Jews to Israel. The immigration funding is in keeping with a Christian evangelical/fundamentalist belief that the second coming of Christ is preceded by the Aliyah and the rebuilding of the third temple in Jerusalem. This is also why most Christian rightists oppose Palestinian statehood and the removal of Jewish settlements from the West Bank and Gaza Strip—because God promised all of the Biblical land of Canaan to the Israelites.


    A major display of the Christian Right’s support for Israel was the 2002 Road to Victory conference, organized by the Christian Coalition and quite unlike any previous Road to Victory conference.23 The keynote speaker was Ehud Olmert, then mayor of Jerusalem, who was invited to address the Solidarity with Israel rally. The galaxy of right-wing stars appearing at the conference either in person or through video included, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX), former chair of the foreign relations committee Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC), Lt. Col. Oliver North, Alan Keyes, former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, and former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pasto...eddon_b_103161


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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    Actually, he did more in the past 24 hours













    That makes a dozen

    Did we miss any?
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    There's a Horse In The Hospital | John Mulaney

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    This whole Greenland thing shows how deranged Trump is, and how little strategy there is to anything he does. All this episode has done is **** off one of the few European allies that supported the US in the Afghanistan since 2001 and in the Iraq war in 2003. If there was an actual strategy here, it would be diplomatically approaching the Danes about securing other bases outside of Thule, or expanding Thule, or joint patrols, or a whole bunch of other things. Instead, he floats a totally absurd idea that is outright offensive to the Danes and Greenlanders, and when the Danish PM has the gall to say that it's absurd, he throws a temper tantrum at the perceived insult and cancels a state visit whose invitation came directly from the Danish Monarch, which will further damage relations.

    What the hell is the strategy here, if not to weaken NATO and Europe further and make it clear that Russia and China are all too welcome to challenge the Western Alliance in the Arctic and elsewhere?

    And apparently, "unnamed sources" have already indicated that the main reason why this thing blew up the way it did is that Trump had 2 Euro-trips planned in September, and was all whiny about the amount of air travel, so he was looking for any excuse to cancel on the Danes. On top of that, he also probably knows that Obama will be there at the end of September, and is likely to receive a far more receptive response. Combine those 2 things and little Donny thinks it's better to anger an ally and undermine NATO further than to do his freaking job and/or be exposed as being incredibly unpopular in Denmark. It's insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    This whole Greenland thing shows how deranged Trump is, and how little strategy there is to anything he does.
    Ahhh...., I thought that Trump was deranged when I first read about him in a magazine article back in 1986.

    There are hundreds of things that show how deranged Trump is. This latest (well one of yesterday's laundry list) about Greenland is NOT a reason for impeachment.


    It IS a reason for Trump being carried out of the Oval Office in a straight jacket.
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    Sharing is important

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    Trump is a SNOWFLAKE.

    After Denmark's PM calls buying Greenland 'absurd,' Trump calls her comment 'nasty', cancels planned trip to Denmark to visit the Queen.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/denm...ry?id=65095389
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    We should tell him Baffin Island isn't for sale either, just in case he wanted to visit Canada.

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    Maybe they should sell him the island of Elba or Saint Helena for his permanent exile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump is a SNOWFLAKE.

    After Denmark's PM calls buying Greenland 'absurd,' Trump calls her comment 'nasty', cancels planned trip to Denmark to visit the Queen.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/denm...ry?id=65095389
    Danes are world renowned for their pushy rude behaviour. Quite a shocking experience I’m sure for ever respectful and polished Trump. Locker room talk like “absurd” has no place in civil discourse!

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    Trump may have canceled his Denmark trip for another more important reason. His good old friend, Barrack Obama is going to Denmark too and may steal a bit of sunshine from the Big Orange. Heck, better not go and stand in the shadow of a real President...
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    “I am the chosen one.” —@realDonaldTrump


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump may have canceled his Denmark trip for another more important reason. His good old friend, Barrack Obama is going to Denmark too and may steal a bit of sunshine from the Big Orange. Heck, better not go and stand in the shadow of a real President...
    “real President”

    hahaha

    Your spin doctoring never ends.

    Trump IS A REAL president. It’s just how reality sometimes works.

    A whole lot of American citizens elected him.

    A whole lot of American citizens still support him.

    A whole lot of American citizens may make him president for a second term - maybe more. (Yes, that’s another reality: rules can be changed.)
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    Trump is a REAL CHICKEN SNOWFLAKE. All mouth and no substance. Fires people by tweet because he can't man up and do it face to face.

    Why is he not going to Denmark?

    Oh yeah, a powerful woman called him "absurd" and he had a hussy fit.

    Real President, my eye...
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    BTW KC, I can't figure you out.

    It is ok to be pragmatic as you are but sometimes you flip out.

    Millions of people were duped by this conman and more fearful, there are millions who think like him and support a narcissistic racist autocrat who has a Messiah complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    Actually, he did more in the past 24 hours













    That makes a dozen

    Did we miss any?
    Sorry, I missed several more myself that happened the other day.


    • unveiled new rules that allow the US government to detain migrant families indefinitely while their asylum cases are judged
    • blamed Barack Obama for his own family separation policy
    • boasted about how much he was loved by survivors of mass shootings
    • insisted that the second amendment, guaranteeing gun ownership, would “stay strong”
    • said Russian president Vladimir Putin had “made a living” of outsmarting Obama
    • railed against the “fake news’, singling out NBS, the New York Timesand CNN
    • touted a private drug for preventing suicide
    • and threatened to release European ISIS prisoners back into their own countries.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9073976.html

    Also lied about steel production and that steel is thriving, while US Steel lays off 200 workers
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    Oh well, nobody’s perfect. lol

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    And there's this. Expect him to call his own Labor Department "Fake news"

    U.S. created 500,000 fewer jobs since 2018 than previously reported, new figures show
    Published: Aug 21, 2019

    Turns out hiring wasn’t nearly as strong in 2018 and early 2019 as the government initially reported — by about a half-million jobs.


    The economy had about 501,000 fewer jobs as of March 2019 than the Bureau of Labor Statistics initially calculated in its survey of business establishments. That’s the largest revision since the waning stages of the Great Recession in 2009.


    The newly revised figures indicate the economy didn’t get a huge boost last year from President Trump’s tax cuts and higher federal spending. They also signal the economy is a bit weaker than previously believed and could give the Federal Reserve even greater reason to cut interest rates in September.


    “This makes some sense, as the 223,000 average monthly increase in 2018 seemed too good to be true in light of how tight the labor market has become and how much trouble firms are said to be having finding qualified workers,” said chief economist Stephen Stanley of Amherst Pierpont Securities.


    The average 223,000 monthly increase in employment in 2018 — the strongest in three years — could be trimmed to 180,000 to 185,000, economists estimate.


    Fewer jobs were created in restaurants, hotels, retailers and professional business services. Leisure and hospitality employment was reduced by 175,000, business services by 163,000 and retail by 146,400.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us...how-2019-08-21

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    Trump no longer flip-flops.

    Trump spins like a broken record



    Trump head spinning double talk.
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    Fairly standard Trump supporter.

    'This is not a joke’: Trump-loving professor fumes after his QAnon rant results in bursts of laughter

    An Arizona community college professor melted down after students laughed at his presentation of a right-wing conspiracy theory.


    Adjunct professor Douglas Belmore, who teaches English at Mesa Community College, showed 14-minute YouTube video in at least two of his classes promoting an online conspiracy theory about satanic pedophiles that have allegedly infiltrated the government, media and entertainment industry, reported the Phoenix New Times.

    “I think I only have one response to give you,” Belmore told a reporter. “It’s a question and it’s three words: Who is Q?”


    Belmore threatened to call campus security on the reporter.


    One student told the newspaper that Belmore brought up the conspiracy theory — which involves all the recent presidents and their families, as well the late John McCain and Democratic donor George Soros — while discussing the class syllabus.

    “He just kept talking about how there are a bunch of criminals and they’re going to get caught now that Trump is the president,” the student said. “Belmore believes that Q is actually JFK Jr. and he just faked his death.”


    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/thi...s-of-laughter/

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    The children are in that underground sex slave pizza parlor...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzag...spiracy_theory
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    He's like a three year old who just lies because they can.

    Trump said doctors left operating rooms to greet him after mass shootings. Hospitals in Dayton and El Paso say that’s not true.

    Speaking to reporters on the White House’s South Lawn on Wednesday, President Trump claimed he was warmly welcomed at hospitals in the wake of recent mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, and intimated that surgeons had even deserted their patients to meet him.


    “The doctors were coming out of the operating rooms,” Trump said. “There were hundreds and hundreds of people all over the floor. You couldn’t even walk on it.”


    But the hospitals he visited say that isn’t what happened — and that doctors would never pause surgery to greet the president.


    “At no time did, or would, physicians or staff leave active operating rooms during the presidential visit,” Ryan Mielke, a spokesman for University Medical Center of El Paso, said in a statement to The Washington Post on Thursday. “Our priority is always patient care

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...&noredirect=on

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    3 year old with a Messiah complex.

    What's next, walking on water?

    The video of him glorifying himself is simply disgusting. He said that what he saw was horrible, what did he see and why has he done nothing about it. It was all about HIM, and how everyone loved HIM. Lies, lies and more lies.




    Reminded me of Sean Spicer after the inauguration, insisting that the crowd size was the largest ever.

    I wonder if MrOilers and H.L. will defend Trump's comments again?

    The video


    Yes, mental health issues are a serious problem in America. Solving the crisis should start from the top.

    BTW, is the daily White House press briefing is no more? Only a couple of them early this year and after Sanders left, zero press briefings except these staged WH lawn scrums with the Liar in Chief and the roaring helicopter in the background. The noise allows him to claim that he never heard the question.
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    Well, he was the chosen one. That’s how democracies work. Soon every elected official will be looking to the sky but stating the obvious.

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    No more press briefings because having a presser on the WH lawn lets Trump fires back at the "Fake news" media and get the news straight from the horses mouth. Of course, when the press reports on what he said and has video to back it up, Trump still cries "Fake news".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    3 year old with a Messiah complex.

    What's next, walking on water?

    The video of him glorifying himself is simply disgusting. He said that what he saw was horrible, what did he see and why has he done nothing about it. It was all about HIM, and how everyone loved HIM. Lies, lies and more lies.




    Reminded me of Sean Spicer after the inauguration, insisting that the crowd size was the largest ever.

    I wonder if MrOilers and H.L. will defend Trump's comments again?

    The video


    Yes, mental health issues are a serious problem in America. Solving the crisis should start from the top.

    BTW, is the daily White House press briefing is no more? Only a couple of them early this year and after Sanders left, zero press briefings except these staged WH lawn scrums with the Liar in Chief and the roaring helicopter in the background. The noise allows him to claim that he never heard the question.
    That guy in the video was hilarious. Actually both guys were.

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    The whole China trade dispute thing is a just hoax
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    "Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA." Donald Trump

    OK Donald, you go first









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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    No more press briefings because having a presser on the WH lawn lets Trump fires back at the "Fake news" media and get the news straight from the horses mouth. Of course, when the press reports on what he said and has video to back it up, Trump still cries "Fake news".

    So you are saying that nobody but 'The Donald' can shovel bullcrap as fast and as hard as the Trump himself?

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    Note: This is from July, 2016. Before the election. Imagine what the count is up to now.

    17 times Donald Trump said one thing and then denied it

    Donald Trump once claimed to have "the world’s greatest memory," but he seems to suffer bouts of amnesia when it comes to his own statements.


    "I never said ____" followed by a charge of media dishonesty is a favorite refrain of the presumptive Republican nominee’s, and it’s something that he’s been doing for years.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...denied-saying/

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    He is currently averaging 20 lies per day. 20 per DAY!
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    The chosen one



    Recession? What Recession?

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    What could possibly go wrong?

    Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.

    During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.


    Asked how the briefer reacted, the source recalled he said something to the effect of, "Sir, we'll look into that."
    Trump replied by asking incredulously how many hurricanes the U.S. could handle and reiterating his suggestion that the government intervene before they make landfall.
    The briefer "was knocked back on his heels," the source in the room added. "You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"
    Trump also raised the idea in another conversation with a senior administration official. A 2017 NSC memo describes that second conversation, in which Trump asked whether the administration should bomb hurricanes to stop them from hitting the homeland. A source briefed on the NSC memo said it does not contain the word "nuclear"; it just says the president talked about bombing hurricanes.


    The source added that this NSC memo captured "multiple topics, not just hurricanes. … It wasn't that somebody was so terrified of the bombing idea that they wrote it down. They just captured the president’s comments."
    The sources said that Trump's "bomb the hurricanes" idea — which he floated early in the first year and a bit of his presidency before John Bolton took over as national security adviser — went nowhere and never entered a formal policy process.
    White House response: A senior administration official said, "We don't comment on private discussions that the president may or may not have had with his national security team."


    A different senior administration official, who has been briefed on the president's hurricane bombing suggestion, defended Trump's idea and said it was no cause for alarm. "His goal — to keep a catastrophic hurricane from hitting the mainland — is not bad," the official said. "His objective is not bad."

    https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-...cf0e3f51c.html

    Nuking Hurricanes: The Surprising History of a Really Bad Idea
    Hurricane season comes to an end today, but the myth of bombing Mother Nature into submission endures.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/n...clear-weapons/

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    ^ http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_v..._carolina.html


    Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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    A very stable genius with nuclear weapons...

    We could have solved all the hurricanes that come out of Washington if only Trump's mother was on the Pill...
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    You mean Trump lied? I have trouble believing that.

    Trump’s fabricated China phone call is ‘a serious escalation of his lying’ which bodes ill for America: reporter

    JUST IN: China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang says has no info on phone calls to U.S. cited by Trump, adding later “I can tell you clearly that I haven’t heard of such a thing”
    * Says China will protect itself on trade if U.S. persists with current approach

    Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has suggested that China doesn’t even need to negotiate with the United States — they may decide to just step back, let Trump’s tariffs ruin his own economy, and negotiate with the next administration when people vote Trump out over the losses.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/tru...rica-reporter/

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    And he lied AGAIN? Fake news! Sad!

    CNN’s Acosta busts Trump for blatantly lying about his reasons for skipping G7 climate summit

    While discussing the president’s decision to blow off the climate change meeting, Acosta noted that White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham claimed that the president chose not to go to the meeting because he was having separate meetings at that time with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

    “We should note to our viewers Prime Minister Modi of India and Chancellor Merkel were at that climate session here at the G7 summit,” he said. “So we’re not getting a lot of straight answers. Perhaps we’ll get some, perhaps we won’t, at this joint press conference when the president and Emmanuel Macron come out here in just a short while.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/cnn...limate-summit/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    You mean Trump lied? I have trouble believing that.

    Trump’s fabricated China phone call is ‘a serious escalation of his lying’ which bodes ill for America: reporter

    JUST IN: China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang says has no info on phone calls to U.S. cited by Trump, adding later “I can tell you clearly that I haven’t heard of such a thing”
    * Says China will protect itself on trade if U.S. persists with current approach

    Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has suggested that China doesn’t even need to negotiate with the United States — they may decide to just step back, let Trump’s tariffs ruin his own economy, and negotiate with the next administration when people vote Trump out over the losses.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/tru...rica-reporter/

    Yup, right out of the Trump bankruptcy playbook.

    Make America bankrupt and settle with China to bail him out again...
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    But like, why use a lie that's so ridiculously easy to disprove?

    Oh wait, it's because to half of the US facts don't matter.

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    More lying 'alternative facts' about the G7 (G6) Climate Change meeting


    Donald Trump's story on skipping the G7 climate meeting makes no sense
    "The President had scheduled meetings and bilaterals with Germany and India, so a senior member of the Administration attended in his stead," press secretary Stephanie Grisham said by way of explanation for Trump's absence.

    Note German Chancellor Angela Merkel in light blue suit at climate change meeting and empty chair, "an invisible senior member of the Administration attended in his stead"

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/26/polit...nge/index.html


    Trump's elementary reader found!

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    More lies from Trump

    Trump says he's "an environmentalist" after skipping G-7 climate meeting: "I think I know more about the environment than most people"

    Trump’s claim that he's an environmentalist is nothing more than another one of his more than 12,000 verifiable lies or misleading claims since becoming president. Two months ago, the Trump administration announced it would replace the Obama-era Clean Power Plan with weaker regulations that could actually increase air pollution -- both conventional air pollution and carbon dioxide emissions driving climate change have increased since Trump took office. Over the course of his administration so far, Trump has also made it easier for corporations to pollute America’s waters in several ways, most recently by proposing the fast-tracking of new fossil fuel pipelines that could pollute water sources.

    Trump’s administration has also employed known climate science deniers, attacked its own climate reports, unilaterally abandoned the Paris climate accord, and has worked to minimize or remove the impacts of climate change from national assessments and statements.


    And according to The New York Times, as of June 7, the Trump administration is rolling back 83 environmental rules and regulations. Some environmentalist.
    https://www.mediamatters.org/abc/som...vironmentalist
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    Trump boasts; "Friends, you're going to love Greenland. I was there on 9/11"
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    Manhattan? I’d’ve got Staten Island too for half the guilders. Louisiana? Bum deal. But Alaska? I’m giving that back to Russia'

    Lawrence Douglas and Nancy Pick (satire)

    Donald Trump tweeted today he had purchased Greenland from the Kingdom of Denmark for $15bn plus Kanye West and the state of Massachusetts.

    Still, the announcement has been questioned abroad. Prime minister of Greenland Kim Kielsen, reached this morning before the sun set for the winter, commented: “Clearly, the president’s mind is melting faster than our ice sheet.”

    Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen tried to strike a diplomatic note, saying: “May God deliver us from this delusional maniac.”

    These comments did not stop the president taking a victory lap before an enthusiastic audience at a campaign-style rally in West Virginia.

    A partial transcript of the president’s remarks follows:

    Friends, trust me, you’re just going to love Greenland. I’ve been there, many times. I was there on 9/11, trying to stop the planes. It’s all true, not that you’d ever read it in the failing New York Times. [Chorus of boos]

    I’ve heard the critics on the socialist left. They say $15bn, that’s a lot of money that we could better spend sending hate mail to children in Israel. Well, I have a surprise for you. Guess how much this is going to cost the American taxpayer? The answer my friends – zero! Nothing! Nada! All costs will be paid for by tariffs on CHINESE dumplings! It’s true, not ONE CENT!

    [Cheers and chants of “Not ONE CENT!]

    The Green people – such fine, wonderful upstanding people. They’re all eager to become Americans – not like Democrats! And the country – so clean. Reykjavik, what a city. Not like Londonstan and Stockholmbad. No crime, no rats, no dwarf Islamist mayor! And don’t let that name confuse you, Greenland. The fact is, my friends, it’s not very Green. In fact, it’s white – very, very white.

    [Cheers] Whiter than white! Green is the new white!
    [More cheers and chants of “Green is the new white!”]

    And what a land mass! It’s the world’s biggest island, my friends! I bet you didn’t know that – larger than Australia and India put together! And we won’t need to build a wall there. Those waters are cold. [Laughter and applause]


    People are calling it the greatest deal in American history – maybe all of history. People are saying that only Trump could have made this deal. Maybe so, I don’t know. I guess it’s true, if everyone is saying it, I mean, I suppose it’s true. All I know is the Dutch paid, what, 60 guilders for Manhattan? I could have gotten it for 30 with Staten Island thrown in.” [Laughter and chants of MAGA! MAGA!]

    And the Louisiana purchase? Napoleon fleeced Jefferson! 512 million acres for $15m? It sounds like a great deal, but I could have done better, I could have done better. Could have got Texas, too, for not another penny.

    Now there is one deal I feel bad about. Alaska. Folks, I hate to say it, but we kind of stole it from the Russians. They needed our dollars back in 1867 so we got a lot of land for what – two cents on the acre. That’s not a deal my friends, that’s robbery. Now you know I’m a good guy, a great guy – [wild cheers] – and frankly that deal troubles me. It does. So today, I called my friend Vladimir Putin and said, ‘Vlad, you can have it back. You can have Alaska back.’”
    [Cheers and chants of “No collusion, no obstruction!”]

    But I’ll tell you something. Crooked Hillary – [chorus of boos]

    – Crooked Hillary, know what she wanted to buy? Haiti! She wanted to make Haiti the 51st state in America. And then she wanted to buy Africa, too, the whole continent. So sad. And criminal. [Chants of “Lock her up!]

    But does the fake news report on this? No. All they say is Trump wants Greenland for its coal. Well, I say to you tonight, “Coal is not a four-letter word!”
    [Cheers and chants of “Drill, baby, drill”]

    And the fake news – they never stop. They say Trump hates the environment. Maybe they should look at my golf courses, the most beautiful courses in the world. I’m probably the biggest environmentalist ever. What did Obama do for Greenland’s penguins? Nothing! I’m going to change all that. I’m going to make sure that nothing happens to so much as one penguin in Greenland. Not one. No one loves the environment like Trump!

    [Cheers and chants of “Penguins! Penguins!]
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rchase-denmark
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    More lies and fake conspiracy claims by Trump as he obsesses about Obama.




    AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s mistold tale of Obama and Iran
    https://www.apnews.com/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad
    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Monday assailed the Obama administration for being hoodwinked by Iran, making his case with a frequently told and false story about the U.S. giving billions of dollars to Tehran.


    In an extended news conference with French President Emmanuel Macron and other remarks at the G-7 summit, Trump also asserted inaccurately that the U.S. has the cleanest air, as well as energy riches that only he brought to life. Many countries outperform the U.S. on measures of air quality. Energy production surged under President Barack Obama.
    IRAN

    TRUMP on Iran: “We gave them $150 billion and $1.8 billion and we got nothing. ... Look at what they did to John Kerry and to President Obama. Look what happened, where they’re bringing planeloads of cash, planeloads, big planes, 757s, Boeing 757s coming in loaded up with cash. What kind of a deal is that?” — news conference with Macron.

    THE FACTS: It’s the kind of deal that did not actually take place. Detailed Facts Here

    CLEAN AIR

    TRUMP: “We’re, right now, having the cleanest air and cleanest water on the planet.” — remarks with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

    THE FACTS: That’s not true. Air quality hasn’t improved under the Trump administration and dozens of nations have less smoggy air than the U.S. Detailed Facts Here

    ENERGY

    TRUMP: “I feel that the United States has tremendous wealth. The wealth is under its feet. I’ve made that wealth come alive. ... We are now the number one energy producer in the world.” — news conference with Macron.

    THE FACTS: Sole credit to himself is not accurate. The greatest energy revolution of the past half-century happened on Obama’s watch as U.S. petroleum and natural gas production achieved pre-eminence. Detailed Facts Here

    CLIMATE CHANGE

    TRUMP, on addressing climate change: “I feel that the United States has tremendous wealth. The wealth is under its feet. ... I’m not going to lose it on dreams, on windmills, which frankly aren’t working too well.”

    THE FACTS: In criticizing wind power, Trump misidentified his target. Wind turbines produce energy. Windmills mill grain and flummox Don Quixote. Detailed Facts Here

    NORTH KOREA

    TRUMP on North Korea’s leader: “With respect to North Korea — Kim Jong-un, who I’ve got to know extremely well, the first lady has gotten to know Kim Jong-un and I think she’d agree with me, he is a man with a country that has tremendous potential.” — news conference with Macron.

    THE FACTS: Melania Trump doesn’t know Kim. They have never met. Detailed Facts Here
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    From Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC

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    A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.


    If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.

    https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1166529030352510976

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    Anyone surprised?

    'Journalist’ embraced by mainstream Republicans exposed as right-wing troll who hung out with far-right hate groups


    "Andy Ngo, the right-wing journalist and provocateur who was embraced by mainstream Republicans and covered favorably in mainstream media after he was attacked by antifa activists during a street fight in Portland, Oregon, may suddenly be persona non grata among conservatives. Nearly all mentions of Ngo were scrubbed from the upscale right-wing publication Quillette after a newly-released video showed him acting friendly with members of Patriot Prayer, a far-right hate group that has repeatedly sought out fights with leftists.


    Ngo, who has used selectively edited videos to paint antifa as a violent, criminal group was hit with punches and milkshakes during a clash between antifa activists and members of the Proud Boys, an organization labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Many on the right rallied around Ngo after that altercation, and spread false rumors that the milkshakes thrown at him and others had contained quick-dry cement.


    Just weeks later, however, a video surfaced on Twitter showing Ngo pal around with the Proud Boys-adjacent group Patriot Prayer.


    The video shows Ngo laughing as the group plans a violent attack on antifa members at a Portland bar in May. The video surfaced as part of a lawsuit brought by the bar, accusing Patriot Prayer members of causing a riot.


    The Portland Mercury reports that Patriot Prayer members targeted antifa while they were celebrating a day of peaceful May Day celebrations. The lawsuit brought by the bar owners alleges that Patriot Prayer leader Joey Gibson and six others trespassed onto the property with the aim of engaging in violence.

    The video of Ngo laughing as the group plans their attack, wrote Portland Mercury news editor Alex Zielinski, “is the clearest evidence I’ve seen supporting the claim that [Patriot Prayer] & leader Joy Gibson were intent on instigating a fight that afternoon.”


    The video shows members discuss their weapons and making preparations for the attack. Ngo is present the entire time and can be seen laughing at certain points.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/jou...t-hate-groups/




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    A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.


    If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.

    https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1166529030352510976
    1. July 26, 2016: "I mean, I have nothing to do with Russia. I don't have any jobs in Russia. I'm all over the world but we're not involved in Russia," Trump tells CBS4.

    2. July 26, 2016: "For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia," Trump tweets.

    3. Oct. 6, 2016: During the second presidential debate, Hillary Clinton says Russia is trying to help elect Trump, "maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow." Trump calls this assessment "so ridiculous," adding, "I know nothing about Russia ... I don't deal there."

    4. Oct. 24, 2016: "I have nothing to do with Russia folks, I'll give you a written statement," Trump says at a campaign rally.

    5. Jan. 11, 2017: Trump tells reporters that he has "no deals that could happen in Russia because we've stayed away," adding that he could "make deals in Russia very easily" but "I just don't want to because I think that would be a conflict."

    6. Jan. 11, 2017: "Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!," Trump tweets.

    7. Feb. 7, 2017: Trump tweets, "I don't know Putin, have no deals in Russia, and the haters are going crazy."

    8. May 11, 2017: Trump tells NBC News that he has "nothing to do with Russia," other than the fact that he "sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago" and hosted the Miss Universe pageant there once.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek...usiness-russia
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    Yesterday was the 5th anniversary of Obama's biggest scandal of his Presidency.






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    Lawrence O’Donnell Retracts Claim of Russians’ Role in Trump Loans

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/28/b...mp-claims.html

    The MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell retracted a story he reported on Tuesday night that claimed President Trump had made a financial arrangement with so-called Russian oligarchs.

    Mr. O’Donnell said the reporting, which he had attributed to a single source on his 10 p.m. program, “didn’t go through our rigorous verification and standards process.”

    “I shouldn’t have reported it, and I was wrong to discuss it on the air,” he said on Wednesday, referring to a report he issued on air the night before.


    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
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    A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.


    If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.

    https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1166529030352510976
    1. July 26, 2016: "I mean, I have nothing to do with Russia. I don't have any jobs in Russia. I'm all over the world but we're not involved in Russia," Trump tells CBS4.

    2. July 26, 2016: "For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia," Trump tweets.

    3. Oct. 6, 2016: During the second presidential debate, Hillary Clinton says Russia is trying to help elect Trump, "maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow." Trump calls this assessment "so ridiculous," adding, "I know nothing about Russia ... I don't deal there."

    4. Oct. 24, 2016: "I have nothing to do with Russia folks, I'll give you a written statement," Trump says at a campaign rally.

    5. Jan. 11, 2017: Trump tells reporters that he has "no deals that could happen in Russia because we've stayed away," adding that he could "make deals in Russia very easily" but "I just don't want to because I think that would be a conflict."

    6. Jan. 11, 2017: "Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!," Trump tweets.

    7. Feb. 7, 2017: Trump tweets, "I don't know Putin, have no deals in Russia, and the haters are going crazy."

    8. May 11, 2017: Trump tells NBC News that he has "nothing to do with Russia," other than the fact that he "sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago" and hosted the Miss Universe pageant there once.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek...usiness-russia

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