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    [IMG]Brighton Block by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    there's isn't much to save except what you see here but it's still nice to see what's here once again...
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    Beautiful building.

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    ^On the outside. The interior was left in absolute shambles, which is why it's being blown out.

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    What ever can be salvaged or duplicated to represent some sense of history is also a great thing.

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    Disappointing for anyone who donated money to see the building deteriorate to where it had before being sold. So pleased the new owners have good work behind their name so I am confident it’s in good hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Disappointing for anyone who donated money to see the building deteriorate to where it had before being sold. So pleased the new owners have good work behind their name so I am confident it’s in good hands.
    the donated and grant monies were substantially all spent in the adjacent lodge/pendennis building. the design and the work completed to date are already the backbone of something quite spectacular for edmonton. hopefully the sale of the brighton block will be ucama’s next step in completing it.
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    I love what your doing with this building Kcantor, you make Edmonton proud!
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    So good to see this happening. I've been following this with my camera since 2009. Thanks to Ken for allowing me to continue. Nothing new yet, but here are shots from 2009 until 2014 when UCAMA pulled out. �� https://flic.kr/s/aHskqvZJBA
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    This area will be a gold mine one day. It may take some time but it's screaming of potential. Great job Ken.
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    My guts says this area will become a hugh destination that 124st wished it had become. I hope other proprietors along that street envision the same goals as Ken and Ukrainian museum.

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    Got inside of this amazing project today. Thanks Ken.
    https://flic.kr/s/aHskqvZJBA
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    Great pictures.

    Question to Ken, Any renders or details of the project that you can divulge to here on C2E?
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    Great pictures.

    Question to Ken, Any renders or details of the project that you can divulge to here on C2E?
    This might be what you're looking for Edmcowboy11:

    http://primaveradevelopmentgroup.com...2017-03-16.pdf

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    Yup, that would do it, =) Thanks.
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    247253193-008
    27-Feb-2018
    9666 - JASPER AVENUE NW
    Plan ND Blk 2 Lots 34-35

    To construct an OVERHEAD CRANE AT BRIGHTEN BLOCK as part of project for an addition, exterior alterations, and interior alterations to an existing General Retail Stores and Professional, Financial and Office Support Services use building - Phase 1, To demolish interior structures and shoring only. (BRIGHTON BLOCK 2 Storey addition)

    247253193-005
    27-Feb-2018
    9666 - JASPER AVENUE NW
    Plan ND Blk 2 Lots 34-35

    To construct EXTERIOR WALL REINFORCING AND DEMOLITION OF INTERIOR FLOORS to stabilize the exterior facade structure in advance of total reconstruction and addition. (Phase 1 BRIGHTON BLOCK 2 Storey addition)

    247253193-006
    27-Feb-2018
    9666 - JASPER AVENUE NW
    Plan ND Blk 2 Lots 34-35

    To construct a COVERED WAY HOARDING IN FRONT OF BRIGHTEN BLOCK UNTIL NOVEMBER 1,2018 that will run along the north sidewalk on Jasper Avenue. This includes a portion with a job trailer that will be set on top.The hoarding is for overhead crane protection as part of an addition, exterior alterations, and interior alterations to an existing General Retail Stores and Professional, Financial and Office Support Services use building - Phase 1, To demolish interior structures and shoring only.(BRIGHTON BLOCK 2 Storey addition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concrete Jungle View Post
    Not too shabby! Really think this will be a big boost to the area when done.

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    Indeed. I cannot wait to see the finished product.
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    Similar to one of my fav historical building re-mods by some colleagues: https://www.carscadden.ca/564-beatty

    Love the addition and hope to see this soon!
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    I'm really excited with this. Go MR. K.C and bring in the sunshine! With corner 1, soon to tallest Aldritt, the newly built hotel and this project will definitely get ball rolling for the area. Now, if that museum can get their act together, that will be a bonus.
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    Saturday evening:

    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    Monday morning:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Saturday evening:

    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    Monday morning:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr

    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]
    Getting ready to rock and roll! It's going to turn out amazing Ken. I really think developers are going to buy into this strip considering it's huge potential as a valley-front promenade. Maybe not right away, but in time this area of Jasper is going to be a destination for foodies and small-business.
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    [QUOTE=Stevey_G;877358]
    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
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    Getting ready to rock and roll! It's going to turn out amazing Ken. I really think developers are going to buy into this strip considering it's huge potential as a valley-front promenade. Maybe not right away, but in time this area of Jasper is going to be a destination for foodies and small-business.
    this is what that "promenade view" looks like (from the roof of the goodridge block):

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr
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    It would be nice to see that non descript building next door to Brighton get some improvements too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rseven View Post
    It would be nice to see that non descript building next door to Brighton get some improvements too
    hopefully that will be a different thread one day...
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    ^good to hear!

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    It has been decades since i have actaully strolled down this street. Im looking forward to the day when this structure and the entire strip is re-animated once more.
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    ^It's one piece of many on that block that will need to be redeveloped in order for it to really have an impact. That being said it's a critical piece that will go a long ways in helping change peoples perception of the area.

    Any updates on the leasing front? Not sure if Ken can speak to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
    ^It's one piece of many on that block that will need to be redeveloped in order for it to really have an impact. That being said it's a critical piece that will go a long ways in helping change peoples perception of the area.

    Any updates on the leasing front? Not sure if Ken can speak to this.
    how much space would you like ChrisD?

    we knew the building was stale given it had been abandonded for a decade and that it would take construction to actually start and not just a “for lease” sign to overcome that.

    ask me again in august...
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    ^^
    Understandable and agreed that there are ways to go. I cant help but feel so much more confidence in this strip like i never have before. The mentality of salvage vs destruct has aslo changed and is welcomed in my eyes. It is so great to see developers and community players stepping up whereas that was not the trend in the past.
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    I've looked at these two buildings for years and years and have waited for things to be brought back to life. I was so hopeful about the museum and archives so when things fell apart it was sad. I'm glad that these buildings are going to finally get a new life. I just hope now that there might be interest in doing something with the other properties on Jasper East block to go along with this restoration and build.
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    Really gorgeous and animated. Thank you!
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    The lay yard
    Lay Yard


    The Basement
    Brighton Basement


    The Basement
    Brighton Basement


    The Basement
    Brighton Basement


    Sun on Bricks
    Brick


    1st Floor
    Brighton 1st Floor


    1st Floor
    Brighton 1st Floor


    1st Floor
    Brighton 1st Floor


    2nd Floor
    Brighton 2nd Floor


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    3rd Floor
    Brighton 3rd floor
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    Thanks for the pictures.
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    Always great to see photographic updates.

    On a side note, is there any rumblings of anything happening to the building to the west?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    Always great to see photographic updates.

    On a side note, is there any rumblings of anything happening to the building to the west?
    Not a whisper. Back in October of last year, there was a steady parade of potential investors marching through the building, but since then nothing.
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    a few takeaways after this morning's construction meeting:

    how to work in small spaces:
    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    basement view through some of the removed main floor:
    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    future office lobby feature wall once the main floor and new storefront go back in:
    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    they don't build them like this anymore (unless they're building ships):
    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG][IMG]

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    they don't do plaster/frieze work like this anymore either (too bad it's all too rotten to salvage):
    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

    full size originals and more: https://www.flickr.com/photos/304435...h/26680198937/
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    Thanks Ken. Can you not make new molds?
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    Take a couple photos, download them on a 3D rendering program and 3D print them.
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    Nothing but support and positive vibes from C2E on this topic. Even amongst people who typically disagree.

    You’re going to be completing this project with great economic timing Ken and it’s going to be a pleasure to see you and your group succeed.

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    Nothing brings us together like Ken's good work or Procura's bad it seems!
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    Nothing brings us together like Ken's good work or Procura's bad it seems!
    lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Thanks Ken. Can you not make new molds?
    we're working on that...

    the new structure is poured in place concrete and the columns themselves are bigger than this detail but maybe for a restaurant or a tenant to incorporate in some of their interiors or millwork but they will likely have to be silicone as trying to do a new plaster cast would have the new mold picking up too much mould.

    for those that may have forgotten what this looked like on my first tour:

    20160830_162715 by cdnklc, on Flickr
    you can see the full column cladding here (not as damaged as they are a year and half later) along with the 3" of water on the main floor.

    20160830_162644 by cdnklc, on Flickr
    where there wasn't three inches of water, there was 3" of something else.

    20160830_163949 by cdnklc, on Flickr
    living proof that some organisms like lots of water and lots of something else.
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    I really would love to see this building when its done. This will be soo nice to bring this old gal back to life.
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    brighton block parapet by adam cantor:

    https://flic.kr/p/26kocg7

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    brighton block parapet by adam cantor:

    https://flic.kr/p/26kocg7

    G]Brighton Block parapet by Adam Cantor by cdnklc, on Flickr
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    Uuugh... those columns. I wouldn't mind seeing that replicated for a structure next to the women's shelter. I'm really look forward to this.
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    successful column capital removal:

    bb captital 2 by cdnklc, on Flickrbb capital 1 by cdnklc, on Flickr

    next steps: restoration/re-creation then making a mold...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    successful column capital removal:

    bb captital 2 by cdnklc, on Flickrbb capital 1 by cdnklc, on Flickr

    next steps: restoration/re-creation then making a mold...
    I can't wait to see this Ken. This gives me flashbacks and some tears of our last structure that had this type of columns which was the CP( ?)building where Hops handbag use to be. Once again I'm proud of you for this and thank you! Time to go wipe some allergies of my eyes now.
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    first you dig holes:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on Flick

    then you fill them with rebar and concrete:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on Flickr

    until they look like this:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    first you dig holes:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on Flick

    then you fill them with rebar and concrete:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on Flickr

    until they look like this:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on FlickrUntitled by cdnklc, on Flickr
    And better take notes as there'll be an exam come Monday lol.

    Awsome sequence and thank you!
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    the sequence is interesting...

    it’s the first project i’ve been involved with where we had to create a continuous raft slab in a series of individual pours (that’s why the dual key-ways in the last shot which will help with the rebar ties to come).

    the perimeter sections shown here will hold the perimeter columns and edge beams for the first four floors. these will be used to shore and stabilize the exterior walls and that will allow for a complete demolition of the interior of the building including the old interior columns and foundations (some of which you can also see in the last photo as well as some of the others).

    once interior demo is done, it will be followed by the excavation of the rest of the basement and pouring the rest of the raft slab.
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    I think it is great that you show the general forumers and guest readers the process in which it takes to restore such structure. It is a great learning curve for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    I think it is great that you show the general forumers and guest readers the process in which it takes to restore such structure. It is a great learning curve for everyone.
    thanks - compliments get you an updated peek at what the finished product will look like from the street (interiors will have to wait but they will be even nicer ):

    2 by cdnklc, on Flickr3 by cdnklc, on Flickr7 by cdnklc, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    I think it is great that you show the general forumers and guest readers the process in which it takes to restore such structure. It is a great learning curve for everyone.
    thanks - compliments get you an updated peek at what the finished product will look like from the street (interiors will have to wait but they will be even nicer ):

    2 by cdnklc, on Flickr3 by cdnklc, on Flickr7 by cdnklc, on Flickr
    Very Nice!

    what was the thickness of the raft slab for this? Im going to guest 2'-3' ?
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    Thanks for the updates Ken. Would you ever sell this property upon completion and move on next door? We can call it "Ken's Corner".
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    ^

    we have some medium and some longer term plans for primavera but none of them include a sale of the brighton block.

    ^^

    the typical depth once you get past the perimeter transitions is 2'-8".
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    So happy this site is finally going to get moving with a realistic timeline of actually finishing. I pray the neighbouring properties see some interest too.

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    That patio on top of the third floor will be spectacular!

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    Like I been saying lately, what you see of renders, just amplify that by three tines of the render quality ; and that is the true outcome. This will be beyond spectacular imo.
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    Ken, what is the expected timeline of the project? I love the look of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmontonsKindaGuy View Post
    Ken, what is the expected timeline of the project? I love the look of it!
    you’ll be able to move in and enjoy that patio by this time next year.

    we’re planning to be closed in and weathertight before winter this year although some of the new exterior brickwork and repointing won’t take place until next spring.
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    I'm very impressed with the work you are doing, Ken! ChrisD and you are my new heroes. Hopefully you will inspire a whole new class of local developers who care about the community and build quality, well thought-out projects. Hats off to you, good sir.
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    Looks incredible. Excellent project.

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    an original column and it's replacement and a corner of the raft slab waiting for concrete:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr

    tonka toys for adults:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    an original column and it's replacement and a corner of the raft slab waiting for concrete:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr

    tonka toys for adults:
    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr

    An original column and it's replacement......very cool to see. You could have saved some $$$ and used some Gorilla tape on that old column.

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    Beauty progression. Blessed to have people in this city who put their money where there mouth is in our historical gems. Cant wait to see the final product!
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    Looking at the renders I am really excited to see the finished product. I hope that more of the block gets quality restoration or quality new construction.

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    How is PCL to deal with when it comes to extras?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3RI3S View Post
    How is PCL to deal with when it comes to extras?????
    i’m not sure how to answer that other than to confirm it’s not my first project with them and it won’t be the last one either.

    i could however say the same about ledcor and clark and others...

    when it it comes to extras it’s like anything else on a project - how they’re handled and how many there are is as much a reflection of the consulting team and the owner as the general contractor or construction manager.
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    some springtime views from the sidewalk scaffolding this morning:

    [IMG]Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr[/IMG]

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    Default Paula Simons: Edmonton city council will need flexibility to save historic Brighton Block

    Now, Cantor and PCL Construction are hard at work on a rescue mission to save the outside of the handsome old building and turn it into the carapace of something new.
    “I wanted to do it because I’m a glutton for punishment,” Cantor jokes.
    In truth, it’s a massive and tricky job. Because the interior of the old rooming house had rotted out, the building needs to be completely gutted.
    http://edmontonjournal.com/business/..._autoplay=true
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    how they really deliver concrete to small sites:
    IMG_3308 by cdnklc, on Flickr

    shear walls for stairwell and elevator reaching the main floor/mockup for feature wall treatment in main lobby:
    IMG_3321 by cdnklc, on Flickr IMG_3314 by cdnklc, on Flickr

    shoring columns reaching from main to 2nd floor:
    IMG_3307 by cdnklc, on Flickr IMG_3306 by cdnklc, on Flickr
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    You are a sucker for punishment with that concrete bucket lol. That made my day with that bucket joke.
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    it might not seem like much from a construction perspective but it's a big deal for a developer when the signs go up:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    it might not seem like much from a construction perspective but it's a big deal for a developer when the signs go up:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr
    This topic is what keeps me checking this site. Thanks for the updates Ken and here’s to many more of these projects!

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    it's also a big deal for a developer the first day the crane shows up:

    July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr

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    a few photos from wednesday's site visit:

    rebar being loaded through the light will before it gets demolished:

    July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr

    rebar waiting for placement:

    July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr

    perimeter beam forms waiting for rebar:

    July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr

    formwork shoring:

    July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr

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    elevator shaft core walls peeking through the second floor:

    July 25, 2018 by cdnklc, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    it might not seem like much from a construction perspective but it's a big deal for a developer when the signs go up:

    Untitled by cdnklc, on Flickr
    You may be a developer, but you are so wrong! For someone like me who had to witness the the downtown of downtown, im just as thrilled even with the crane.
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    ^^congrats Ken et al.

    No light well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    ^^congrats Ken et al.

    No light well?
    we can't keep the centre one as there was no way to add foundations for it but we will be able to keep the exterior ones along both the east and west exterior walls including the windows.
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    added photos from august 8, 2018 site tour:

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    What's the biggest surprise, good or bad, that you've discovered so far?

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    Ken I tell ya. It just ain't gonna be complete unless you toss some strapping on the envelope and cover it in a nice tan-orange stucco exterior.
    There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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