Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 1234567 ... LastLast
Results 201 to 300 of 800

Thread: Falcon Towers | 175 m and 145 m | Proposed

  1. #201
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Posts
    4,843

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mattyw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Abii View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TRtower View Post
    64 stories ? ... Holy cow !!
    That'd make it taller them Stantec, wouldn't it?
    Stantec is 250ish meters. This is 170 meters tall.
    Yeah, Stantec is the equivalent height as an 80 story building (250 metres).
    You mean "residential" building. The proposed building is less than the height for residential guidelines per the attached so LOW ceilings.
    http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/Ta...B/Default.aspx
    Emerald is 154 meters and 45 floors. This one would only be 16 meters taller and 21 floors. 66 floors should equate to about 225 meters.
    Last edited by Glenco; 18-06-2018 at 11:22 PM.
    “Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan

  2. #202
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Clareview
    Posts
    9,975

    Default

    I'd like to see more towers Manulife wide and Stantec tall please.
    Mom said I should not talk to cretins!

  3. #203
    Becoming a C2E Power Poster
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Parkview
    Posts
    332

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I'd like to see more towers Manulife wide and Stantec tall please.
    I'd much rather see more density in the core instead of sporadic 200+M towers.
    Edmonton is a very exciting place to be right now.

  4. #204
    You registered but never posted. username to be deleted.
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    1,737

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bleppers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Oilers99 View Post
    That's pretty much what I'm saying, they have complied with all development and building requirements. The market has absorbed their product, therefore their product is just fine. If you think it's ugly, don't buy it.
    What I'm trying to say is that market absorption isn't an arbiter of whether its a good building/good design or not. Just because people manage to sell ugly condos doesn't mean that we as a city ought to require more.
    Do you work for the City or are you speaking on behalf of the rest of us?

  5. #205

    Default

    Thought I've seen this design 100 times but I imagine Edmonton will screw it up and make it look bad... if only they try what Henriquez is going with the top floors:

    henriquezpartners.com/press/westbanks-joyce-to-bring-a-striking-design-to-its-neighbourhood/
    Live and love... your neighbourhood.

  6. #206
    Becoming a C2E Power Poster
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    433

    Default

    ^ "Edmonton" isn't designing it, "Edmonton" isn't building it, how exactly will "Edmonton" screw it up? Or is that just a generalized sophomoric snipe at all the good people who live here?
    Last edited by buildings; 19-06-2018 at 04:17 PM.

  7. #207

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    ...Edmonton will screw it up and make it look bad...
    Way to support your city. Ever hear of the power of negative thinking?

  8. #208
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Edmonton area.
    Posts
    8,372

    Default

    I’m sure it will turn out fine. Imagine the addition to the skyline from Sask Dr. Right out front and center.

  9. #209

    Default

    I stand in error, I meant it as "Edmonton" in quotations, Edmonton as a mentality, aesthetic, outward image. All to it for tall buildings with glass, but the bar is pretty mid-range, IMO. Only really concerned about the podiums on most buildings. Continue that 104th Promenade!
    Live and love... your neighbourhood.

  10. #210
    C2E Long Term Contributor
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Downtown
    Posts
    32,628

    Default

    Proposed rezoning in Downtown

    Attend a meeting about a proposed rezoning in Downtown and an amendment to the Capital City Downtown Plan.

    Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2018
    Time: 6 - 8 p.m.
    Location: First Presbyterian Church, Wallace Room, 10025 105 Street

    This application is intended to allow development of two high rise towers with commercial uses at grade with underground parking. It will rezone parcels of land on the north side of 100 Avenue NW and between 103 and 104 Street NW, from (CMU) Commercial Mixed Use Zone to (DC2) Site Specific Development Control Provision.

    The meeting provides an opportunity to learn more about the proposal and provide your feedback to the City and applicant. Input gathered will be summarized in a report to City Council before they make a decision on the rezoning.
    “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

  11. #211
    C2E SME
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Downtown Edmonton
    Posts
    11,614

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by gwill211 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by buildings View Post
    I like it; distinctive yet understated
    Understated? It’s huge and dominating.
    I think he meant understated in design, not scale.
    Converting signatures 3rd building to rentals and selling it off as its been rumoured is not finishing your project.

    If langham can finish icon in one of the worst recessions we have ever seen why cant westrich finish their current project?? If we want to compare langham to westrich then let's look at the track record before saying langhams in a do or die position.
    Quote Originally Posted by gwill211
    Especially when its compared to another builder who may be not finish one of their projects as planned...


    It is unlikely that the sale would close until after the project is finished, passes inspections, and achieves occupancy. Boardwalk, the buyer, has little or no interesting in finishing someone else's project. Why would you assume that Westrich is somehow walking away from Signature 3? My company's cheques are coming from the same place.

  12. #212
    C2E Hard Core Contributor
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Edmonton, AB
    Posts
    2,534

  13. #213

    Default

    Falcon 1 & 2. interesting choice.
    There can only be one.

  14. #214

    Default

    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...

  15. #215
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Edmonton Downtown Core
    Posts
    5,283

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Axb View Post
    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...
    There would be several reasons for continued use of punched out windows. One big reason may be that the contractor they prefer to use has its limitations - and successful installation of curtain wall is not in its bailiwick. I can't imagine its by preferred choice or thats its "cheaper" when Chinese curtain wall is cheap and getting cheaper.

  16. #216
    C2E Continued Contributor
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    jasper east
    Posts
    1,645

    Default

    from the PDF


  17. #217

    Default

    Funny to see the Omega in the background of one of the images. Was this originally designed for 106 and 99 perhaps?

  18. #218
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Edmonton
    Posts
    4,091

    Default

    They both look to be 38 stories. Where did they come up with 64 stories?

    I can sort of see the comparison to One Bloor that some were making, but this is just a cheap copy of it (punched windows and stucco for the most part).

  19. #219

    Default

    Completely nitpicking buy: first render was overlaid on top a winter-time photo which has snow on the ground and bare trees. They've spruced it up with green deciduous and people in shorts.

    This was what the Fox Towers should have been. No problem with stucco if done properly.

    But I wouldn't jump to conclusions. I think it's dark sprandrel as opposed to stucco here...think fancier version of Hendrix

  20. #220

    Default

    Why are the massing renderings shown so short?
    www.decl.org

  21. #221
    C2E SME
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Downtown Edmonton
    Posts
    11,614

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Axb View Post
    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...
    There would be several reasons for continued use of punched out windows. One big reason may be that the contractor they prefer to use has its limitations - and successful installation of curtain wall is not in its bailiwick. I can't imagine its by preferred choice or thats its "cheaper" when Chinese curtain wall is cheap and getting cheaper.
    There's the whole national energy code thing, as well. None of the projects currently being built had to meet it, I believe, as it hadn't come in to force when permits were issued for them (some designed for it anyways). But long story short, it can be pretty difficult to get a cheap curtain or window wall envelope to perform sufficiently well enough without having to spend big dollars elsewhere on improving the building's performance.

  22. #222

    Default

    The proposed mixed use development will provide up to 700 residential units, in two phases. The first phase will consist of approximately 300 units. Each phase will include an underground parkade access from the lane, with no servicing or vehicular movement on 104 Street, a planned pedestrian corridor.

    The two towers will sit atop a pedestrian scaled podium, no tallerthan 10 m. The podium will frame and address 104 Street and 100Avenue, with articulation along the street to create interest in thefaçade wall and define residential and commercial entrances. Thepodium also breaks up wind channelling down the towers, andprovides a comfortable space at street level.
    https://www.edmonton.ca/residential_...sign_Brief.pdf

  23. #223

    Default

    A planning application has been received to rezone the northeast corner of 100 Avenue NW and 104 Street NW. This proposal includes 10019 and 10027 104 Street NW and 10318A 100 Avenue NW.

    The applicant's name for the project is Falcon Towers.

    The proposed rezoning will accommodate the development of two residential towers on a mixed-use base structure.

    About The Application

    The proposed rezoning is from Commercial Mixed Use Zone (CMU) to a Site Specific Development Control Provision (DC2).

    This would allow for the opportunity to develop two high-rise towers:

    A 145 metre high residential tower (north) and a 175 metre high residential tower (south)
    A commercial base structure with public courtyard at ground level facing 104 Street NW
    Up to a total of 700 dwellings
    Underground parking

    https://www.edmonton.ca/residential_...street-nw.aspx

  24. #224

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Axb View Post
    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...
    There would be several reasons for continued use of punched out windows. One big reason may be that the contractor they prefer to use has its limitations - and successful installation of curtain wall is not in its bailiwick. I can't imagine its by preferred choice or thats its "cheaper" when Chinese curtain wall is cheap and getting cheaper.
    There's the whole national energy code thing, as well. None of the projects currently being built had to meet it, I believe, as it hadn't come in to force when permits were issued for them (some designed for it anyways). But long story short, it can be pretty difficult to get a cheap curtain or window wall envelope to perform sufficiently well enough without having to spend big dollars elsewhere on improving the building's performance.
    Wait...maybe I'm missing something here but where does it state that they will be using punched windows and stucco? I don't see any note to that effect and the renders certainly aren't indicative of that...Mind you the renders aren't wholly clear either

  25. #225
    C2E Continued Contributor
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    jasper east
    Posts
    1,645

    Default

    from the other PDF


  26. #226

    Default

    ^These will be a nice addition to that area and the skyline.

    Hope we see this going ahead at some point in time.

  27. #227

    Default I am good with this!

    Hope we avoid stucco, but don't mind the street level feel at all and I like the massing presented in this photo. I am happy to 'sign off' on this project, knowing that my signature does not mean anything!

  28. #228
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Strathearn, Edmonton
    Posts
    4,624

    Default

    Seems like a really large floor plate, but maybe it isn't perfectly to scale.

  29. #229

    Default

    ^It does seem huge from the birds eye image.
    www.decl.org

  30. #230
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Edmonton Downtown Core
    Posts
    5,283

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    ^It does seem huge from the birds eye image.
    At 175m it will be 3rd tallest and the shorter one either 4th or 5th. Impressive givens it’s residential.

  31. #231

    Default

    Compare the new towers to foxes, they appear to be similiar dimensions. As per height, 45 -55 floors is my understanding, so both should be taller than Manulife. I think it is pretty close to scale.
    " The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."

  32. #232

    Default

    Wow

    Just build it omg

  33. #233

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bleppers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Maybe... but we need infill and spread that around as much as height for the sake of height. Density is more important given that we have eclipsed a few previous limits.
    Amen. Do not get the weird obsession with super tall buildings. I’d take 5 buildings 10 stories tall over one 50 storey any day.
    ya we wouldn't want any more super talls in Edmonton would we? and i'd take two 25 storey buildings over five 10 storey ones any day !

  34. #234
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Edmonton Downtown Core
    Posts
    5,283

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Compare the new towers to foxes, they appear to be similiar dimensions. As per height, 45 -55 floors is my understanding, so both should be taller than Manulife. I think it is pretty close to scale.
    I think your confused ... Fox is not as tall as the CN Tower per this diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=5
    And you can see where 175m fits in as #3.

  35. #235
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Edmonton (belevedre)
    Posts
    6,542

    Default

    Renderings didn't mention on how many storeys on both towers at all.
    Edmonton Rocks Rocks Rocks

  36. #236
    Becoming a C2E Power Poster
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Downtown Edmonton
    Posts
    249

    Default

    Hmmm... now that we can see the render clearly, I feel much more cool on the project. The punched out windows look pretty bad. I really don't want another mediocrely designed set of towers dragging down 104. I feel we should be able to do better.

  37. #237

    Default

    You're more than welcome to do better. Make them an offer.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

  38. #238
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Edmonton area.
    Posts
    8,372

    Default

    I like them. Start digging.
    Last edited by Drumbones; 22-06-2018 at 11:45 AM.

  39. #239

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_Lloyd View Post
    Hmmm... now that we can see the render clearly, I feel much more cool on the project. The punched out windows look pretty bad. I really don't want another mediocrely designed set of towers dragging down 104. I feel we should be able to do better.
    ? Again WHERE do you guys see definitive proof that there are punched out windows and stucco? I don't see that at all...

  40. #240
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Clareview
    Posts
    9,975

    Default

    I don't know why we're arguing over stucco, this development (imo) looks like its years away in the making anyway.
    Mom said I should not talk to cretins!

  41. #241
    Becoming a C2E Power Poster
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Downtown YEG
    Posts
    262

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I don't know why we're arguing over stucco, this development (imo) looks like its years away in the making anyway.
    Not sure why you'd say that, I mean other than the fact that condo developments always take a while to ripen, but you make it sound like you think it's very far off ?

    Regardless of what you think of Langham designs, their marketing has been pretty effective and recent projects have moved thru the stages quite quickly. Not everyone can afford Sky so lower cost central condos are likely to be very marketable over the next few years, particularly with such a good location.

    As to why people fuss about the stucco even if it is a ways down the road, once design elements are in place and approved, upgrades are unlikely, hence the concern and comments.

  42. #242

    Default

    I genuinely think that these look great and I’m excited for them to start.

  43. #243
    Becoming a C2E Power Poster
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    483

    Default

    The name is even growing on me. I think this will do well for that area, as the Freemason hall looks a bit derelict in that see of surface parking.

  44. #244

    Default

    Just for reference for punched windows: http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...Renderings.pdf

    Many buildings are naturally turning this way due to environmental and energy standards.
    Live and love... your neighbourhood.

  45. #245
    C2E Continued Contributor
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    jasper east
    Posts
    1,645

    Default

    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg

  46. #246

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
    The Last of Us!

  47. #247
    C2E Continued Contributor
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Beaumont, ab
    Posts
    1,164

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
    The Last of Us!
    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?

  48. #248

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
    The Last of Us!
    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    You have issues

  49. #249

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
    The Last of Us!
    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    I'm not a nerd gamer.

  50. #250

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
    The Last of Us!
    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    I'm not a nerd gamer.
    who care if you are or not theres nothing wrong with being one

  51. #251
    C2E Continued Contributor
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Beaumont, ab
    Posts
    1,164

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magnus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
    The Last of Us!
    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    You have issues
    Haha!! I have issues? Listen here Darth Vader....I'm pretty sure everyone on here would agree that you are somewhat inept at conveying your thoughts to appear, i.e. this forum. Not sure why you take offense to what everyone says about you all the time......

  52. #252
    C2E Continued Contributor
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Beaumont, ab
    Posts
    1,164

    Default

    To "paper" NOT "appear"

  53. #253

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magnus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
    The Last of Us!
    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    You have issues
    Haha!! I have issues? Listen here Darth Vader....I'm pretty sure everyone on here would agree that you are somewhat inept at conveying your thoughts to appear, i.e. this forum. Not sure why you take offense to what everyone says about you all the time......
    Actually I think he’s accurate. Not everyone has to agree or disagree on points or understand each other on a message board, but you’re one of those narcissistic individuals who hasn’t learned that you don’t need to open your mouth on every little thing. Nobody cares what your opinion is of others, and I doubt you would speak the way you do if your C2E account were paired to your LinkedIn.

    What I’m trying to say is, trash talking others in anonymity when you’re a fully grown adult is a very pussy thing to do. So maybe you should just bite your lip instead of always embarassing yourself.

  54. #254
    First One is Always Free
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Edmonton, Canada
    Posts
    88

    Default

    any predictions on the condo pricing?

  55. #255

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I'd like to see more towers Manulife wide and Stantec tall please.
    Quote Originally Posted by finishstrong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I'd like to see more towers Manulife wide and Stantec tall please.
    I'd much rather see more density in the core instead of sporadic 200+M towers.
    why can't we do both?

  56. #256

    Default

    ^there is a finite housing demand. So you really can't do both.
    www.decl.org

  57. #257

    Default

    Over time, we can do both.

  58. #258

    Default

    Yes, long periods of time.
    www.decl.org

  59. #259

  60. #260
    C2E Long Term Contributor
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Downtown Edmonton
    Posts
    49,117

    Default

    Re: Falcon Towers - clarification

    Phase I / 39 / 125 m
    Phase II / 45 – 143 m
    www.decl.org

    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

  61. #261

    Default

    Well if they still want to achieve 700 units, prepare for a lot of studio and 1bdr units.

  62. #262

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by millwoods View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_Lloyd View Post
    Hmmm... now that we can see the render clearly, I feel much more cool on the project. The punched out windows look pretty bad. I really don't want another mediocrely designed set of towers dragging down 104. I feel we should be able to do better.
    ? Again WHERE do you guys see definitive proof that there are punched out windows and stucco? I don't see that at all...
    I agree...I also do not see use of stucco here - or at the very least, I cannot conclude there is stucco based on the renders.

    Fox Tower renders were quite obvious with the punched windows and stucco. I'm not so certain in this case. It is not as conclusive.

    The windows within the balcony space may or may not be punched windows. And I strongly think it's all going to be spandrel as opposed to stucco.

    As I said, think Hendrix (with wrap around balconies):


    DSC00249

  63. #263

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by B.ike View Post
    Well if they still want to achieve 700 units, prepare for a lot of studio and 1bdr units.
    The DC2 might say something like 'up to 700 units'. I guess we'll find out tonight.
    www.decl.org

  64. #264

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Re: Falcon Towers - clarification

    Phase I / 39 / 125 m
    Phase II / 45 – 143 m
    That makes a lot more sense.

  65. #265
    C2E Long Term Contributor
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Downtown
    Posts
    32,628

    Default

    Sean Amato‏ @JSJamato
    Public meeting tonight for a massive tower development in #yegdt. “The Falcon” would add 49 & 56 storey towers for up to 700 new dwellings on 104st/100ave. Neighbours have concerns with traffic, density, shadows. Site currently zoned for roughly 20 storeys.

    https://twitter.com/JSJamato/status/1011773482944770048


    “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

  66. #266
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Strathearn, Edmonton
    Posts
    4,624

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Sean Amato‏ @JSJamato
    Public meeting tonight for a massive tower development in #yegdt. “The Falcon” would add 49 & 56 storey towers for up to 700 new dwellings on 104st/100ave. Neighbours have concerns with traffic, density, shadows. Site currently zoned for roughly 20 storeys.

    https://twitter.com/JSJamato/status/1011773482944770048


    Density, shadows traffic. Literally blocks from the core of the core. Interesting.

  67. #267
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Edmonton area.
    Posts
    8,372

    Default

    Or maybe stupid. If some yo-yos stop this project or force it to downsize I’ll be very disappointed.

  68. #268

    Default

    Seeing how often we hear about these projects being proposed and wanting density increases, maybe it's time to get rid of density limits throughout downtown.

    If you have property and can build 60 stories on it, go for it.

  69. #269
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Edmonton area.
    Posts
    8,372

    Default

    Agree, let’s move beyond big town to big city status
    Last edited by Drumbones; 26-06-2018 at 11:31 PM.

  70. #270
    C2E SME
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Sherwood Park, AB
    Posts
    11,592

    Default

    I think my only concern about the 40+ storey condo towers is whether they comply with fire codes. Otherwise, great additions for downtown.
    "Talk minus action equals zero." - Joe Keithley, D. O. A.

  71. #271
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Edmonton, AB
    Posts
    7,830

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Or maybe stupid. If some yo-yos stop this project or force it to downsize I’ll be very disappointed.
    I wouldn't worry about that. I can tell you that concerns about 'traffic and density' in the downtown don't carry much weight.

  72. #272
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Posts
    4,843

    Default

    So that would make them about 167 and 190 meters.
    “Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan

  73. #273
    C2E SME
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Posts
    11,637

    Default

    The project looks interesting and I would like to see it although I have a question. How many towers like this can the city sustain? I like seeing tall towers but I would also rather see parking lots disappear.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

  74. #274
    First One is Always Free
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Edmonton, Canada
    Posts
    88

    Default

    Parking lots could be transformed into parks

  75. #275
    C2E Long Term Contributor
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Downtown Edmonton
    Posts
    49,117

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I think my only concern about the 40+ storey condo towers is whether they comply with fire codes. Otherwise, great additions for downtown.
    ? Of course they would.

    Good open house, mixed bag as usual, but a decent looking project.
    www.decl.org

    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

  76. #276
    C2E Long Term Contributor
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Downtown
    Posts
    32,628

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DanC View Post
    Density, shadows traffic. Literally blocks from the core of the core. Interesting.
    Ya know who was complaining about shadows and parking? Someone from the Freemasons lodge next door.
    “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

  77. #277

    Default

    So much conflicting info on these towers. I was told 45 and 54 storeys. Ian said 39 and 45. On Global News this morning they said "two towers between 50 and 60 storeys". And yet this article on Global's website says "49 and 64 storeys each" (145m and 170m).

    Global News Article

  78. #278
    C2E SME
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Posts
    11,637

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    So much conflicting info on these towers. I was told 45 and 54 storeys. Ian said 39 and 45. On Global News this morning they said "two towers between 50 and 60 storeys". And yet this article on Global's website says "49 and 64 storeys each" (145m and 170m).

    Global News Article
    It's gonna be one of those adjustable buildings that can add and subtract floors as needed. =)

  79. #279
    C2E Long Term Contributor
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Downtown Edmonton
    Posts
    49,117

    Default

    The way I understand it is that the re-zoning is for a higher number, but the DP will be for the lower number. Essentially building in flexibility if the market responds.
    www.decl.org

    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

  80. #280
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Edmonton area.
    Posts
    8,372

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DanC View Post
    Density, shadows traffic. Literally blocks from the core of the core. Interesting.
    Ya know who was complaining about shadows and parking? Someone from the Freemasons lodge next door.
    envaneo, was that you?

  81. #281

    Default

    So sick of hearing complaints on shadows and other garbage . Downtown in cities is made for tall towers , if you don't want shadows live in the suburbs or on a acreage

  82. #282

    Default

    39/45 stories at this time.
    652 units
    Floorplates of each tower are around 800m2
    First tower floor above podium is two-storey townhouses
    www.decl.org

  83. #283

    Default

    I guess the developer must be surprised of the lack of opposition there is for a 170m tall tower.
    Edmonton first, everything else second.

  84. #284

    Default

    Nimby starter pack:

    -too tall
    -shadows
    -increased traffic
    -no parking
    -noise
    -does not fit character
    -out of scale

  85. #285

    Default

    - Too many rentals
    - Too many poor people

  86. #286
    C2E Hard Core Contributor
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    edmonton, alberta
    Posts
    2,319

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DanC View Post
    Density, shadows traffic. Literally blocks from the core of the core. Interesting.
    Ya know who was complaining about shadows and parking? Someone from the Freemasons lodge next door.

    The coverage by the media drives me crazy. i am sure there were people who attended that had lots of positive feedback but rather than getting that point of view they go straight to the negative Nellie.

  87. #287

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I think my only concern about the 40+ storey condo towers is whether they comply with fire codes. Otherwise, great additions for downtown.
    It would have to meet all standards of safety including OH&S codes.

    I hope these towets are built before 2026 World Cup soccer. These towers- if done correct- will help the TV/optic of our city. Lets also hope Aldritt towers, procura (mac hotel), BMO, and towera on 106st UWH are built. That would be a great television postcard to the world. Im lost with the NIMBYism at the heart of the core?
    " The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."

  88. #288

    Default



    City Center mall has really created a "hole" in the core.

    Seeing the health of the mall, would it be economically feasible to knock down half of it?

  89. #289
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Edmonton area.
    Posts
    8,372

    Default

    There’s lots of room downtown for everything. Really. Check google earth. There are mega vacant lots. No need to tear down anything. I like the Mall. I see no reason to get rid of it. I think it is making a comeback and as more people move downtown the more it will be utilized.
    Last edited by Drumbones; 27-06-2018 at 07:27 PM.

  90. #290
    Becoming a C2E Power Poster
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Calgary, Alberta
    Posts
    164

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by S3RI3S View Post


    City Center mall has really created a "hole" in the core.

    Seeing the health of the mall, would it be economically feasible to knock down half of it?
    Probably not as feasible as re-skinning the entire exterior with glazing. Got a feeling it may end up as a surface parking lot for at least a decade if it gets knocked down.

  91. #291
    C2E SME
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Sherwood Park, AB
    Posts
    11,592

    Default

    103 and 104 Street will have at least 5,000 people living on it in about 5 years. The Valley Line LRT will also be there. I think City Centre Mall will be okay.
    Last edited by The_Cat; 27-06-2018 at 09:02 PM.
    "Talk minus action equals zero." - Joe Keithley, D. O. A.

  92. #292

    Default

    The mall could be augmented over time and phases which could easily add resident or office components to it without complete impediment to its operation.
    " The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."

  93. #293

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Sean Amato‏ @JSJamato
    Public meeting tonight for a massive tower development in #yegdt. “The Falcon” would add 49 & 56 storey towers for up to 700 new dwellings on 104st/100ave. Neighbours have concerns with traffic, density, shadows. Site currently zoned for roughly 20 storeys.

    https://twitter.com/JSJamato/status/1011773482944770048


    it's yellow but i like them !

  94. #294

    Default

    Kinda remind me of these in toronto.

  95. #295

    Default

    ^nice !

  96. #296
    I'd rather C2E than work!
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Edmonton, AB
    Posts
    7,830

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    103 and 104 Street will have at least 5,000 people living on it in about 5 years. The Valley Line LRT will also be there. I think City Centre Mall will be okay.
    Yes it will. They just need to make some changes both aesthetically and physically to adapt to the changing retail market.

  97. #297
    C2E Stole my Heart!!!!
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Clareview
    Posts
    9,975

    Default

    I like the concept and its good for the area but whether we get the height that's proposed is another matter. Look at tower B. Started to look nice on paper but now its been watered down to considerably less floors then what was sinitially put fourth. That could happen here as well. I'd love to have the height as is in these renders, but economics and expectations being what they are, we might get something smaller. Time will tell.
    Mom said I should not talk to cretins!

  98. #298
    Becoming a C2E Power Poster
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    433

    Default

    all the buildings east of the Falcon towers got all squished. Clearly someone needs a few more lessons with photoshop. I wouldn't put much credence in the renders of the proposed towers at this time.

  99. #299

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by buildings View Post
    all the buildings east of the Falcon towers got all squished. Clearly someone needs a few more lessons with photoshop. I wouldn't put much credence in the renders of the proposed towers at this time.
    im going to assume theyre forcing a perspective.. "Look how tall our towers are, everything else is so small"

  100. #300

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by buildings View Post
    all the buildings east of the Falcon towers got all squished. Clearly someone needs a few more lessons with photoshop. I wouldn't put much credence in the renders of the proposed towers at this time.
    at 46 and 56 floors, how should these be photoshop? At those reapective heights, thet will be taller than Manulife. At those heights, they would shrink everything around it.
    " The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."

Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 1234567 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •