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Thread: Kelowna makes giving money to intersection panhandlers illegal

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    Default Kelowna makes giving money to intersection panhandlers illegal

    I did a search for the topic but had no success.
    I would like to see a similar law in Edmonton

    http://vancouversun.com/news/local-n...on-panhandlers
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    Interesting twist...

    Some jurisdictions in the US use the intersection panhandler...who is really a beat officer in disguise...to catch people on their phones, etc... They get pulled over a block ahead...
    Tired of being taken advantage of .

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    Constitutional lawyers, start your engines...
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    What would be the constitutional challenge?
    Tired of being taken advantage of .

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    I'm going to guess Freedom of Association or somesuch. Really, making it a fine-able offense to give away empties to a scruff near a bottle depot?
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    Well, that would be weighed against the municipality's right and ability to produce bylaws that help with public safety and regulate business operations. I know we get into the grey area with buskers...but I thought Edmonton had something for buskers? I may be mistaken.

    As for panhandlers at intersections, that becomes a safety and nuisance issue...like loud pipes...or school zones. Again, well within the municipal jurisdiction...

    I am not a constitutional lawyer...so the layman in me can only give an opinion. I just don't see it making it into a Constitutional challenge. More an applicability/ability to enforce vs benefit argument...
    Tired of being taken advantage of .

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    I wouldn't say Constitutional like going to the Supreme Court, but this SJW interference in the lives of people trying to help (not the ones asking for help) seems doomed to fail on some kind of constitution-based challenge.

    It's not the pan-handlers targeted by the bylaw; it's the people that volunteer or respond.
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    Agreed, it is not the panhandlers per se, but the municipality is only fining someone that actually has the means to pay. I can see the attempt at discouraging the continued intersection use if the panhandler will not be able to get any revenue...

    At least that is the argument as presented...

    Giving a panhandler a fine is not only going to get you in trouble, but practically, what would they pay with?
    Tired of being taken advantage of .

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    At the exit from South Edmonton Common on to 23rd Ave., there are often panhandlers there. I see that SEC has put up a
    "Panhandling Not Permitted" sign. It doesn't work, as I saw a guy panhandling just a few feet from the sign today.
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