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    100 Mile Do-It: Quick getaways from Edmonton that you can do in a day | Edmonton Journal

    https://edmontonjournal.com/travel/1...-from-edmonton



    14 ideas for day trips around Edmonton - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

    https://globalnews.ca/news/1466049/1...ound-edmonton/


    Short Day Trips from Edmonton! - Albertamamas.com

    http://www.albertamamas.com/day-trips-from-edmonton/


    Edmonton's Countryside | Regional Tourism Experiences

    http://www.edmontonscountryside.com/
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    There was a thread here on Day Trips and camping spots around Edmonton. Tried to search for it and couldn't find it.

    The selections were actually better in that thread. Published versions of things to do always seem to have really random things in there. Corn maze, U pick? Really? Those are not destination worthy.

    Telling people to just float down the Pembina or NS or Red Deer River without far more information is flat out irresponsible.

    RCMP, search parties get called out all the time looking for injured or lost people. Its a gongshow every summer just eating up search and rescue resources. But meanwhile every publication doing their part telling doofuses to go out doing this. One of the problems is these tubing/canoeing activities are described as leisurely floats. No aspect of the inherent dangers ever mentioned. So that any weekend warrior buying a cheap inflatable and some cases of beer figure they are set for this. yeah, for a really bad experience getting lost on a river or injured or worse.

    What hardly ever gets described is rivers like the Pembina go through some remote and inaccessible areas and often only accessed through private property. RCMP and City helicopters have had to be used countless times at enormous expense getting idiots out of the area after they are injured, completely lost, and suffering hypothermia. Miss your disembark point and you are on shitcreek on the slow moving winding Pembina. People DRASTICALLY underestimate the amount of time a trip, even a short trip, takes on that river as well as their ability and navigation ability. Countless people every year get lost on that river in the dark wondering what to do. Thanks to cellphones (if you hit coverage) it becomes the responsibility of police and search and rescue crews that are always busy.

    At least the Global article above provides some caution and info, the other links don't.

    Heres an idea. Tell people NOT to do river rafting on the cheapest of inflatables and with no preparation or provisions. Stop describing these rivers like they are simply a predictable and safe amusement park ride. They are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    There was a thread here on Day Trips and camping spots around Edmonton. Tried to search for it and couldn't find it.

    The selections were actually better in that thread. Published versions of things to do always seem to have really random things in there. Corn maze, U pick? Really? Those are not destination worthy.

    Telling people to just float down the Pembina or NS or Red Deer River without far more information is flat out irresponsible.

    RCMP, search parties get called out all the time looking for injured or lost people. Its a gongshow every summer just eating up search and rescue resources. But meanwhile every publication doing their part telling doofuses to go out doing this. One of the problems is these tubing/canoeing activities are described as leisurely floats. No aspect of the inherent dangers ever mentioned. So that any weekend warrior buying a cheap inflatable and some cases of beer figure they are set for this. yeah, for a really bad experience getting lost on a river or injured or worse.

    What hardly ever gets described is rivers like the Pembina go through some remote and inaccessible areas and often only accessed through private property. RCMP and City helicopters have had to be used countless times at enormous expense getting idiots out of the area after they are injured, completely lost, and suffering hypothermia. Miss your disembark point and you are on shitcreek on the slow moving winding Pembina. People DRASTICALLY underestimate the amount of time a trip, even a short trip, takes on that river as well as their ability and navigation ability. Countless people every year get lost on that river in the dark wondering what to do. Thanks to cellphones (if you hit coverage) it becomes the responsibility of police and search and rescue crews that are always busy.

    At least the Global article above provides some caution and info, the other links don't.

    Heres an idea. Tell people NOT to do river rafting on the cheapest of inflatables and with no preparation or provisions. Stop describing these rivers like they are simply a predictable and safe amusement park ride. They are not.

    Or provide this link (we did this and it was a good time):


    Pembina River Tubing
    https://www.pembinarivertubing.com/



    I guess the problem is with youth and immigrants. By the late teens anyone that grows up here should have a good understanding of the dangers present in Alberta. Don’t walk on thin ice on water bodies, look both ways before crossing streets, wear seat belts, don’t do stupid things in boats - or rafts, don’t jump in fast flowing water...




    However just a few weeks ago I was down by Rocky Mountain House and the rescuers were called out repeatedly to get people off the rivers. Very high and fast water levels and people were going out on the rivers. But I don’t think warnings really work on such people.


    Helicopter rescues 3 kayakers from Ram River in central Alberta | Globalnews.ca
    https://globalnews.ca/news/4318980/a...akers-rescued/


    Updated: 28 people rescued from North Sasktachewan River in biggest Central Alberta water rescue mission - Red Deer Advocate
    https://www.reddeeradvocate.com/news...n-house-rcmp/#

    1 of 2 rafters rescued from Alberta river wasn't wearing a life jacket
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...scue-1.4128614

    Note: if they ran stories on all the risky things drivers and pedestrians did everyday the papers would be full. “Driver found driving without seatbelt fastened”, “Advisory issued to stop at red lights being ignored by drivers”, “Pedestrian jaywalks despite oncoming traffic”....
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    Its a pet peeve of mine that publications like the Journal chronically do articles and recommendations on lazily floating down the river while depicting it as a walk in the park. It doesn't matter whether one is born here or not. Most people are very unfamiliar with river hazards and don't really have a clue about them.

    I just find it incredible that such a disconnection exists in our society that RCMP, police, authorities get fed up with the amount of rescues required, the number of deaths, injuries, and major publications are TELLING people to do this very activity.

    We're also living in different litigious times. An Ontario man is facing jail time because a student drowned in a provincial park during a day trip. So that anybody taking kids out on a river trip, or other families, or friends is as potentially liable as if they were driving them. This seldom realized. With the exception that in the act of drowning all you need to do now to be culpable is having taken the person to the location where they drowned.

    Yet here we have in the Journal an article on 8 buddies getting together and tying their inflatibles together and having a lazy ride down the river. With one even saying he likes to just layback and relax. Tying inflatables together lends a false sense of security until one of the ropes gets caught on an exposed branch or tree at which point if the river is fast enough this could even cause capsizing, collision, confusion what to do. None of the people depicted have provisions.

    Heres a story about some teens that took the Pembina trip;

    https://globalnews.ca/news/3606638/a...issue-warning/


    Its so sadly typical too and almost a teen right of passage to do something like this. None brought their cellphones, they had no idea what they were getting in for, did not know the terrain, did not know the disembark points or that there are none for very long stretches on the Pembina. Every year something like this happens, most people are too embarrassed to go to the press about it and kudos actually for these kids taking the time to get the message out. Just city kids not understanding rivers.

    Most people now figure because they have a cellphone its like a GPS beacon, map, locater, and emergency hotline all in one. So the presence of one enables increased risk taking beyond ability because if something bad happens we'll just call in for help. This is the new mentality. That emergency services basically exists to help dumb assess. What happens if the boat flips and those smartphones get wet. Hardly any of these people doubles up on maps that are water protected. Hardly any have provisions, emergency lights, none would bother to carry flares. Most are usually riding an inflatable that says right in instructions that it is not designed for the purposes in which its being used.

    the unfortunate aspect is that river rescues can be extremely expensive, again are in remote areas, and helicopters and planes are invariable required in major search and rescue efforts for these people at enormous expense which we all pay for. You mention theres nothing you can do to stop these people. I agree. How about make them wait a day for rescue instead of prompt and immediate service when no one is injured. If I'm doing search and rescue some of these idiots are last on my list of rescues. Albeit the whole list is probably those..

    Another possiblilty is first rescue is free. If any person should ever require a second rescue they pay expenses. I'd even be OK with a rescue fine being levied to every person that is rescued through their own fault.


    This article has an odd conclusion that charging fees for rescues is ill advised but I don't see the reasoning. Does charging people for an ambulance stop their usage? Its the same thing except that most people phoning ambulance would be having a medical emergency that is mostly not their fault.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/who-s...rers-1.1228656
    Last edited by Replacement; 28-07-2018 at 10:52 AM.
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