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    Starting a thread to discuss the conservation efforts, exhibits, collections, presentations, galleries, programming, special events, etc occuring at the museum.





    For discussions of the building, it’s design and construction, the first new RAM thread is here, under Real Estate and Development forum:

    New Royal Alberta Museum
    http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/showt...Alberta-Museum



    Why here in this forum?
    Forum: Heritage and History
    There are literally dozens of museums, large and small, that tell the history of Edmonton and area yet you rarely see anything on the forum about them. This forum is C2E's attempt to fix that error. History is the foundation we build our future on and our community, like a home, needs a strong foundation to last. Rather than allow it to be overwhelmed, ignored or left to the persistent few lets create a section where it has it's own voice. Working with the area Museums and Edmonton Heritage Council C2E could create a history/heritage section that would give voice and story to the amazing and exciting history of Edmonton and allow smaller museums to have a voice and promote themselves to the community.

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    Too bad this is going national:


    Tristin Hopper: The staggering mediocrity of the new $375.5M Royal Alberta Museum | National Post

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/tri...alberta-museum

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    Tristian Hooper does have a point though.
    Edmonton first, everything else second.

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    From the Hopper piece:

    The political history of Alberta alone could merit its own museum. This is where the NDP was founded and from where the Reform Party plotted its shattering reprogramming of eastern conservatism. This was the home of the Famous Five, the five women (McClung included) who led a landmark legal case for Canadian women to be recognized as legal “persons.” This was the only corner of the British Empire to elect a government promising the fringe doctrine of social credit, the idea that the Great Depression could be ended by the mere printing of money.

    Nevertheless, the only exhibit dedicated to politics is the motorcycle that Reform Party MP Deborah Grey rode while campaigning.


    The founding convetion of the NDP was held in Ottawa, in 1961. It's true that the CCF's founding convention was in Calgary, in 1932, but that location was of little significance to the overall history of the party. There were other provinces where the CCF performed much better over the course of its existence.

    And while I think the history of Social Credit in Alberta is indeed pretty fascinating, you pretty much have to be a political junkie to be into that. I suppose you could say the same thing about Deborah Grey's motorcycle, but that at least has some quirky pop-culture cache.

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    Political plotting is hard to exhibit in a museum. Grey neckties are deadly dull, and the hateful rhetoric has long since flown away. In any case, those who need it need not visit a museum.

    Sniping aside, though, in an age of instant online exhibits of everything, the function of a museum is simply to stimulate the curiosity to go do some private info-trawling. The exhibits the Post's unprintables slag would seem just fine for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AShetsen View Post
    Political plotting is hard to exhibit in a museum. Grey neckties are deadly dull, and the hateful rhetoric has long since flown away. In any case, those who need it need not visit a museum.

    Sniping aside, though, in an age of instant online exhibits of everything, the function of a museum is simply to stimulate the curiosity to go do some private info-trawling. The exhibits the Post's unprintables slag would seem just fine for that.
    However it would be nice if a museum created a window into the past to add clarity and context.

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    Museums cannot possibly provide context. To get that, one has to do some independent study. As for clarity.... Huh? A clear mind stands completely independent of anything else.

    But your portentous words sure sound damn fine. Keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AShetsen View Post
    Museums cannot possibly provide context. To get that, one has to do some independent study. As for clarity.... Huh? A clear mind stands completely independent of anything else.

    But your portentous words sure sound damn fine. Keep it up.
    Wrong.

    A beaver fur hat on a pedestal means little. A diorama of a trapper setting a trap next to a beaver dam with stuffed beavers spotted about provides some context. A sketch of pelts being traded in a Fort for goods provides context. The same showing the use of alcohol to cheat the trappers out of their hard earned dues provides some clarity.

    A beaver hat on a bottle of rum might trigger some “independent study” - by one in a thousand visitors - if that many. It might then cause someone to research it and write about it and so teach others about it - however such teachings simply drown in today’s world where the researched and written word competes with trillions of daily uploads of competing bits information.


    BTW using portentous is being portentous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Tristian Hooper does have a point though.
    The guy is a total knob.

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    Yeah, he needs to f$*k off!!!! The true definition of a Hipster with a BA degree who thinks he's the most cultured person in our fair city. Btw, I guess he hasn't been to the EMP in Seattle and seen miles of blank walls and where the crème de la crème piece is Kurt Cobain's green sweater from "Teen Spirit."

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    I'd be curious to know what the museum says about what I assume is the Sunwapta Totem Pole, seen in the photo. It's an artifact not native to any culture in the Alberta region, but was created by a West Coast First Nations artist in the 1930s, and installed as part of CFRN's attempt at establishing a kitschy "western" image in the 1950s. However, I guess it was authentic enough that, after being dragged from a bin somewhere, a group of First Nations people got ahold of it and performed some sort of "consecration" ceremony.

    Not that I don't think it should be in the museum(it absolutely should), I'm just kind of wondering how they explain its importance.

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