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    Edmonton International Airport
    Passenger Statistics for January 2019 --

    Highlights:
    § Terminal Traffic: 615,735 passengers

    • Domestic 460,191 passengers
    • Transborder 96,390 passengers
    • International 59,154 passengers


    § FBO Traffic*: 38,336 passengers

    § Grand Total: Overall 654,071 passengers


    Growth%:
    § Terminal: 1.4%

    • Domestic 0.8%
    • Transborder 9.7%
    • International -5.5%


    § FBO Traffic: 17.8%

    § Grand Total: Overall 2.2%
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    What’s our local surplus/deficit?

    Canadian tourism industry losing out as millennials travel abroad - The Globe and Mail

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    Why not just have an ongoing passenger numbers thread? Do we need to make a new one every 12 months?

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    Because 2019 is present and 2018 was yetsterdays. If it keeps rolling, that would mean we digress back to 2018 and that is impossible.
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    Good morning,
    Edmonton International Airport
    Passenger Statistics for February 2019 --

    Highlights:
    § Terminal Traffic: 602,393 passengers (1,218,128 Year-to-date)

    • Domestic 444,140 passengers (904,331 Year-to-date)
    • Transborder 101,373 passengers (197,763 Year-to-date)
    • International 56,880 passengers (116,034 Year-to-date)


    § FBO Traffic*: 34,508 passengers (72,844 Year-to-date)

    § Grand Total: Overall 636,901 passengers (1,290,972 Year-to-date)


    Growth%:
    § Terminal: 2.0% (1.7% Year-to-date)

    • Domestic 0.6% (0.7% Year-to-date)
    • Transborder 11.2% (10.5% Year-to-date)
    • International -1.5% (-3.6% Year-to-date)


    § FBO Traffic: 13.5% (15.7% Year-to-date)

    § Grand Total: Overall 2.6% (2.4% Year-to-date)
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    Those numbers are looking sweet. Do I hear Chicago? Frankfurt? Heck even yearly London on a three times a week at least.
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    ORD on United is coming back in 2019 I am told...

    FRA or LHR are a must and definitely on the list.
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    "ORD on United is coming back in 2019 I am told... "

    Is that by United, EIA or just someone speculating? No point in speculation unless the source was the the horses mouth or the stable.

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    American has been doing an awful lot of online advertising for ORD (and yes, advertisers can target certain geographic audiences). So, my thought was

    But, Ian, who likely knows more in this case at least, says United. So, either way, suspect it will happen.

    That said, will avoid O'Hare like the plague ....
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    LOVE O’Hare. I can’t wait be able to transfer via Chicago again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBoo View Post
    American has been doing an awful lot of online advertising for ORD (and yes, advertisers can target certain geographic audiences). So, my thought was

    But, Ian, who likely knows more in this case at least, says United. So, either way, suspect it will happen.

    That said, will avoid O'Hare like the plague ....
    He doesn't likely know more. He's just repeating a rumour from another forum.

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    Well, until recently, ORD is a hot hit list item given its connections on STAR. With the 737 Max issue, iron will be thin unless they bring some older planes out of mothballs....

    LHR will come back. FRA, that's been a dream for awhile. I'd like to see it change, I'm working to have it change, but that one will be a tough nut to crack...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatestX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by McBoo View Post
    American has been doing an awful lot of online advertising for ORD (and yes, advertisers can target certain geographic audiences). So, my thought was

    But, Ian, who likely knows more in this case at least, says United. So, either way, suspect it will happen.

    That said, will avoid O'Hare like the plague ....
    He doesn't likely know more. He's just repeating a rumour from another forum.
    Indeed.

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    So, if he is right, then what? Why such a ten year old mentality of response? Let's wait and see... if they come, hurray more connections! If it doesn't happen, we are no worse. That is it... next discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    So, if he is right, then what? Why such a ten year old mentality of response? Let's wait and see... if they come, hurray more connections! If it doesn't happen, we are no worse. That is it... next discussion.
    You don't listen. It was Tuffy on SS that made the statement on United. IanO is parroting that. As to "Why such a ten year old mentality of response?" - why are you being such a ****??

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    No, that is your postulation. Can you guaranty 100 % that that was where his source came from that he was permitted to convey to the public? The tone I get is more of juvenile jab at each other.
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    Ok. So it is a pretty good bet we will get ORD. I won't announce what I know, or even if I know, as I will leave the announcement to those who are paid to know.

    Can we move on?
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    Wow folks.

    I have heard this from multiple sources.
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    Personally I’m kinda surprised we lost ORD in the first place. It was always full the times I took it!

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    ...they could use the iron on routes that made more $$$ and put the plane on a slot that made more sense to them. It more than likely wasn't anti-Edmonton.
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    Pretty much. Keep in mind the dollar sunk quite low.
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    I have to head to Columbus for July, any idea when we can expect this. I wonder if the grounding of the 737’s will delay this?!

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    Edmonton International Airport
    Passenger Statistics for March 2019 --

    Highlights:
    § Terminal Traffic: 657,158 passengers (1,875,068 Year-to-date)

    • Domestic 491,921 passengers (1,396,252 Year-to-date)
    • Transborder 104,070 passengers (301,833 Year-to-date)
    • International 61,167 passengers (176,983 Year-to-date)


    § FBO Traffic*: 37,302 passengers (110,146 Year-to-date)

    § Grand Total: Overall 694,460 passengers (1,985,214 Year-to-date)


    Growth%:
    § Terminal: 3.5% (2.3% Year-to-date)

    • Domestic 3.0% (1.5% Year-to-date)
    • Transborder 9.3% (10.1% Year-to-date)
    • International -1.1% (-2.8% Year-to-date)


    § FBO Traffic: 13.6% (15.0% Year-to-date)

    § Grand Total: Overall 4.0% (3.0% Year-to-date)
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    Wow, I think the Edmonton International Airport could reach 8 million by the end of the year.
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    Since the current terminal is design for 9 million capacity, it looks like they could reach capacity within 2 or 3 years at this growth rate. I wonder if YEG has plans to begin construction soon on the 16M upgrades according to the master plan.

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    ^The expansion cost the better part of $1,000,000,000 and at $50,000,000 per year will take 20 years to pay off. Your insinuations about funneling money’s to fund other operations are baseless.
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    Are you forgetting that the airport also charges rent to all those businesses?
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    Did the crazy post get removed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    Did the crazy post get removed?
    Did you mean this one? "
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    If Notley isn't in the debate why have one?
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    No, that post was brilliant. It was also not from this thread.

    There was a post suggesting that airport improvement fees were being collected and not used for improvements. Glenco and PRT responded to it. I'm just wondering how it got removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    If Notley isn't in the debate why have one?
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    No, that post was brilliant. It was also not from this thread. There was a post suggesting that airport improvement fees were being collected and not used for improvements. Glenco and PRT responded to it. I'm just wondering how it got removed.
    No your post was a a stupid post. Whether Notley participated in any debate matters not. Other leaders of of political parties wanted the opportunity to get their messages out. But then Notley acquiesced and did participate ... and polling in the leaders debate after her performance is not favourable. But then polling generally about the Notley government has been unfavourable for the past few years. Oh well.

    To your question: You mean the post that stated it was not clear where the AIF revenues were being expended because the budget documents don't show that information explicitly - and in the absence of such line items - inferred it went to general revenues?? Lol. You must mean my post - the one I have deleted? Posters can do that - delete their posts. But it's available elsewhere if you look.

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    Edmonton International Airport
    Passenger Statistics for April 2019 --

    Highlights:
    Terminal Traffic: 634,651 passengers (2,509,719 Year-to-date)
    Domestic: 491,402 passengers (1,887,654 Year-to-date)
    Transborder: 90,965 passengers (392,798 Year-to-date)
    International: 52,284 passengers (229,267 Year-to-date)

    FBO Traffic*: 39,584 passengers (149,730 Year-to-date)

    Grand Total: Overall 674,235 passengers (2,659,449 Year-to-date)

    Growth%:
    Terminal: -0.5% (1.6% Year-to-date)
    Domestic: -0.3% (1.0% Year-to-date)
    Transborder: 0.8% (7.8% Year-to-date)
    International: -4.8% (-3.3% Year-to-date)

    FBO Traffic: 29.5% (18.5% Year-to-date)

    Grand Total: Overall 0.8% (2.4% Year-to-date)
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    -0.5... Boeing the cause?
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    Edmonton International Airport
    Passenger Statistics for May 2019 --

    Highlights:
    § Terminal Traffic: 639,148 passengers (3,148,867 Year-to-date)

    • Domestic 540,983 passengers (2,428,637 Year-to-date)
    • Transborder 72,205 passengers (465,003 Year-to-date)
    • International 25,960 passengers (255,227 Year-to-date)


    § FBO Traffic*: 46,984 passengers (196,714 Year-to-date)

    § Grand Total: Overall 686,132 passengers (3,345,581 Year-to-date)


    Growth%:
    § Terminal: -3.0% (0.6% Year-to-date)

    • Domestic -2.8% (0.1% Year-to-date)
    • Transborder -2.8% (6.0% Year-to-date)
    • International -7.2% (-3.7% Year-to-date)


    § FBO Traffic: 32.1% (21.5% Year-to-date)

    § Grand Total: Overall -1.2% (1.6% Year-to-date)


    *FBO passengers are passengers using the fixed base operators at YEG and not the main terminal. Most of this traffic serves energy and mining projects in the north.
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    I imagine that the grounding of the 737 Max 8's have had an effect on air travel.
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    How come YYC is up 6%. It just doesn’t add up there is something fundamentally wrong here.
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    Maybe...but remember that YYC is the focus city/smal hub for AC, and a key hub for WJ. Any capacity increases or movement changes would definitely favour YYC's network capacity over YEG...that is just reality.

    I am not saying that this explains a 6% increase in full, nor that the 6% is valid...
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    I appreciate that Richard but doesn’t a rising tide raise all ships? If the Alberta economy is doing well one would think the impact would be evenly applied and given the financial woes of YYC one would think we would be doing marginally better.
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    While it may raise all ships, there is more here than a rising tide IMO.

    Network changes due to the 737M, route competition being more global, Calgary being more of a centre historically (takes time to change), and Edmonton itself being more O/D and far less X-fer….that is not a dig at EIA. They do NOT control our local economy, or what the politicos or industry execs do within it. They simply do the best they can while being subject to those whims..

    YYC v YEG is not even either...it is not like we are comparing IAH v DFW. I am surprised at the numbers, and I am not trying to defend them as I too find the disparity larger than one would anecdotally expect...but I am not surprised that there is a disparity...

    I'd be more concerned if these numbers continue over the next quarter...with the disparity being the same or similar...
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