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    ^How dare he have opinions! What a monster!

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    I have walked by several times, looks really good. Once finished, it will be great!

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    the punched windows could be larger...but not that bad

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    Actually, those are rather large. Compare them to a 7'x3' door.
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    I just hate the term punched. Their not punched theyíre framed. Whatís wrong with smaller windows in the bedrooms. Are you guys exibitionists or something? Warmer in winter too when that north wind will be blowing in minus 30ness.

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    Isnít the stucco on the front a grey or beige colour? Donít know why they went with white on the back.

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    A darker colour would have definitely been nicer I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_Lloyd View Post
    A darker colour would have definitely been nicer I think.
    Agreed. Overall not as bad as I thought. This has turned out to be a pretty decent building.

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    The side that will be seen the most looks great.

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    Looks great

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    When do people start moving in? Considering this project started sales a decade ago, I would be anxious AF to get in.

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    I believe very soon... this or next month.
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    Itís a very sharp looking building I must say. Kudos to Al on this one.

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    Love the look of this building!

    Hopefully we see more builds from the builder/architect.

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    I just drove by and had my first look at the North side of the Symphony. Itís not spectacular but itís nowhere near as bad as I presumed from previous pictures. Definitely changed my opinion seeing it in person.

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    This turned out better than I had anticipated. It also pops out when coming in from the southside. Finally some modern architecture along the river bank. We need another 15 more.

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    Even another 5 or 6 spaced out to contrast the heavy concrete artillery will do wonders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
    This turned out better than I had anticipated. It also pops out when coming in from the southside. Finally some modern architecture along the river bank. We need another 15 more.
    Yep!

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    The final details/lighting/cleanup is making this look incredibly sharp from 106st. The porte-cochere is brilliant and the townhouses/landscaping plan is going to look the part.
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    I am looking forward to summer to see the landscaping.

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    A buddy of mine did his walk-through and is getting possession shortly. Looking forward to a tour.
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    Looking at the outcome of this, if I had to design with stucco the way they did, I would tint the spandrel's color to the balcony glass on the stucco side. I think that would have given the envelope a lot more.
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    Finally a developer figures out to mount the fireplace low down and the above shelf/tv mount not 6 inches from the ceiling. As a AV guy this drives me nuts in most new houses, stop with the damn huge fireplace as no one wants to look up to the tv when you are on the couch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Looking at the outcome of this, if I had to design with stucco the way they did, I would tint the spandrel's color to the balcony glass on the stucco side. I think that would have given the envelope a lot more.
    Employ vertically oriented grey spandrel along with narrow columns of dark brickwork on the north face and this project would have been absolutely perfect. Iíd be interested to know the comparative costs vs stucco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J&L plus 2 Cats View Post
    Finally a developer figures out to mount the fireplace low down and the above shelf/tv mount not 6 inches from the ceiling.
    Preach!

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    That lobby is really nice.

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    The entire project is very well executed.
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    It is a well done with stucco/glass project.
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    I give it an edge over the Fox's externally, but I still don't see how you see this as well done tower and the Fox's as a compete disgrace. To me it just seams that you despise Langham as a developer and degrade their product. the Symphony in my opinion is a combination of the Fox's and Icon's.
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    The front left imagination hence my perspective. Without trying to be over zealous, had I been in control creatively, how they accomplished it , I would have done more to balance out the affect of stucco. From my desired level, I find the implementation incomplete, but, what they did, look way cleaner and smoother than Foxes imo. At least with this, one side is striking with a fantastic podium. Most of its lesser side are hidden.
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    Thereís a lot more glass on this project than the Fox or Icon developments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreation View Post
    I give it an edge over the Fox's externally, but I still don't see how you see this as well done tower and the Fox's as a compete disgrace.
    I wouldn't say just external, there seems to be a very wide gap between the lobby treatments of Fox & Symphony...

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    I agree, I think Symphony is better thought out design wise. That said Kreation, it could have been way more even with partial stucco.
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    Can't say I like the stucco; cheapens the tower.

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    Why worry about stucco?? let the developers happy with his building and you don't decide for the developers.
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    You can shut the hell up.

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    Lol

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    I took this photo last week of what I consider a well executed back side to a luxury building.

    There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
    Why worry about stucco?? let the developers happy with his building and you don't decide for the developers.

    By this logic, a developer can develop a building drenched in semen and we should all be okay with it because the developer was perfectly content with their building covered in semen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolsticeR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
    Why worry about stucco?? let the developers happy with his building and you don't decide for the developers.

    By this logic, a developer can develop a building drenched in semen and we should all be okay with it because the developer was perfectly content with their building covered in semen.
    If it was called the Phallus...

    Bizarre as it is, design has long been described as masculine or feminine.

    Then there’s the other expressions like technology. People used to buy cars with jet like fins. (Actually they seem to be doing so again tail lights all sticking out.)



    Hey, I was just joking but it even has a page:

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    “Phallic architecture consciously or unconsciously creates a symbolic representation of the phallus.[1] Buildings intentionally or unintentionally resembling the human penis are a source of amusement to locals and tourists in various places around the world. Deliberate phallic imagery is found in ancient cultures and in the links to ancient cultures found in traditional artifacts.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    I took this photo last week of what I consider a well executed back side to a luxury building.

    It is not bad. Two different dimensions of windows is never a complete design period no matter how hard one try to perfect it. There are solotions that I'm surprised designers have never looked at. You can take the same square footage of the smaller window and reconfigure it the same height as the window walls through applying multiple small windows, or reshaping the window. For Example, in that upload I would have taken the window and divide that into two evenly. Where ever the window starts, place the first of two windows flushed to the bottom of the window walls; move one window over, and place the second of the two cut in halves flushing to the top of the window walls this time. Repeat... It is when windows are reconfigured to meet up meet with the lines of the window walls is when stucco will look proper with glass. In my example, i decided to use abstract to meet the lines, but there are other ways. Where spandrels are applied to slab edges on the glass side, they have to be pulled all around ( including stucco side ); Where mullions applied between glass and spandrel, they also have to be applied to the stucco part. Another word, the same rhythm has to be applied eveytime dispite using different textures onto one building. That is what I would expect for a well done stucco or stucco/glass tower. This should have been done with this tower. Stucco is not ugly, but i cant say they have done them well in Edmonton( so far and based on fair assessment) and has been mediocre to be honest. There has been a few shining spots here or there but done generally poorly. I blame it on week designers or cheap developers. If I could design a nice dress out of any frabric, why can't a nice tower not be done with stucco; it easily could and I just gave some examples of how I would do it. High priced stucco deserve this imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    I took this photo last week of what I consider a well executed back side to a luxury building.

    Kings Landing in the middle or the other or?

    Those sold for $1000-1300/sqft versus ~600sqft at Symphony.
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    So did they add the bridge to the Leg grounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    I took this photo last week of what I consider a well executed back side to a luxury building.

    Kings Landing in the middle or the other or?

    Those sold for $1000-1300/sqft versus ~600sqft at Symphony.
    If those towers were built and sold at that square footage, I would argue it has to do with what the market dictates they would sell for, also the significant difference in luxury amenities between the two projects. I don't think the difference in capex between a single stucco wall and a brick/spandral one justifies that differential.

    I'm not shitting on the Symphony. I love it, but I'm not afraid to point out that little thought was put into the North Face and it does impact the project as a whole considering it's the first thing you see coming towards the Leg Grounds.
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    Given that people are living here, I think we can update the "Under Construction" status on the thread.

    From Saturday, March 23, 2019.


    Symphony Tower (2019.03.23)a2 small by Spi11, on Flickr


    Symphony Tower (2019.03.23)b small by Spi11, on Flickr


    Symphony Tower (2019.03.23)d small by Spi11, on Flickr


    Symphony Tower (2019.03.23)c small by Spi11, on Flickr


    Symphony Tower (2019.03.23)e small by Spi11, on Flickr


    Symphony Tower (2019.03.23)f small by Spi11, on Flickr

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    Thanks for the awesome shots Spill! I'd like to see a similar much taller version of this beauty.

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    She turned out great.
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    The 2 fronting brick structures were supposed to have been re-hab'd with this building....did that ever happen?

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    Next stage I believe which should be right away or soon I would suspect.
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    Amazing pics of an exceptional building.

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    So does the developers have any plans to put a screen around the HVAC on the roof of the building?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandonite View Post
    So does the developers have any plans to put a screen around the HVAC on the roof of the building?
    Do you have a picture of this? I don't visually see it from the street or across the river. Just wonder what you're seeing and from what vantage point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
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    So does the developers have any plans to put a screen around the HVAC on the roof of the building?
    Do you have a picture of this? I don't visually see it from the street or across the river. Just wonder what you're seeing and from what vantage point.
    Its definitely still exposed, I can see it from my balcony. I'll try to grab a pic of it when I get a chance

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    Interesting observation. Please do grab a picture just for references in future discussionso that could be brought up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Interesting observation. Please do grab a picture just for references in future discussion so that could be brought up.
    HVAC sitting on top of the building exposed

    https://imgur.com/gallery/KekxtPp

    Here's the link to the pic. It doesn't seem to want to do anything when I add the url. If someone can kindly post the image that would be much appreciated.
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    Thanks! I get where you are coming from... I literally thought you meant like from direct building across from it. I was curious to see how invasive it was. Even at that view...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandonite View Post
    So does the developers have any plans to put a screen around the HVAC on the roof of the building?
    I see the picture you posted of what appears is a small AC room on the roof. In zooming in, it appears to my eye they have added floor to ceiling glazing on the north face of the room so it follows the design detail of the glazing below. Perhaps someone can post a clearer photo from another direction? Perhaps others may have a different opinion but my look at the north side per the picture is favourable. Are you thinking the owners should install a full screen around that room?

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    Symphony Tower looking great tonight.








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    I love the way they did the podium.
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    It does look fantastic.
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    The podium definitely makes the street level look inviting and keeps it nice and open. I hope any other projects that have to build on the hills in the surrounding areas can do similar types of things to their podium to better engage the sidewalk and street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    I love the way they did the podium.
    My favorite part of the development, IMO.
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    Hopefully the landscaping comes through
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    Has anyone moved in yet.

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    Yes, suites have been occupied for at least a couple months.

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    ^

    ďYou have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.Ē - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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    Hahaha... nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    i might be alone here but i liked the look of this !

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    You can visit that tower just below Hillside estates .
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    Everything but the roof.
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    It was a product of its time and akin to Riverview across 106st, Omega, among others.
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    I heard that some owners in this building are refusing to take possession of their units even though they are complete - lawyers have been obtained to have the contracts revoked. They did not get what they were expecting inside in particular. Because of the unexpected costs early on in the project, this building cost the developer a lot more than expected and it resulted in several changes in terms of the interiors according to what I heard from a person connected with the construction of this project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    I heard that some owners in this building are refusing to take possession of their units even though they are complete - lawyers have been obtained to have the contracts revoked. They did not get what they were expecting inside in particular. Because of the unexpected costs early on in the project, this building cost the developer a lot more than expected and it resulted in several changes in terms of the interiors according to what I heard from a person connected with the construction of this project.
    Any specific examples of what changed?
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    I have also heard this from a few people.

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    ^ ^^ ^^^
    i - like everyone else - can only guess but my guess is it's more a matter of the pricing and market at the time they were bought and the same pricing in a different market today. it's called buyer's remorse and there is more of it in a market that has dropped than one that has gone up, particularly if you need to sell a unit before you can close on the new one. in these cases it's often about circumstances and reasons that have nothing to do with the stated ones.
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    Exactly Ken. A fair number of people walked away from their deposits at Century Park back in 2009-2010 because the economy and market had changed so much since they camped out to put a deposit down in 2006/7. In the end they were probably lucky that Westbank and Procura just kept their deposits, as opposed to forcing them to close.

    I can't really comment on finishes, but nothing significant changed with the "bones" of Symphony since it was originally designed and tendered 5+ years ago. Maybe there's some minor differences between sales/marketing materials and the final product, but I doubt any of the buyers are going to have much luck getting out of their binding purchase agreement unless there's holes in it or they have a very good lawyer.

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    On the outside, it's probably a good example of getting exactly what the renders initially showed. Which is often not exactly the case.

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    I haven't toured the show suite, but from the photos, on first glance of their kitchens, if it wasn't for the gas stovetop, it looks like a kitchen you would find in the Fox units. The washrooms were supposed to have floating vanities I believe. And as a 'luxury' product, having white wire shelving in the walk-in closets is a bit suspect.

    You can easily tell where the cost-cutting measures were but they're pretty minor for the most part or maybe I'm just lenient.

    (though if i had bought the nearly $750k Chopin unit and I got white wire shelving, I'd be a bit miffed)

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    I imagine there are different finishes that folks could have asked for.

    Their show suite has the basics with drop in showers/tubs, whereas some of the renders showcase some of the higher end stuff they likely had to choose from with custom tile work, etc. Perhaps wire shelving wasn't included in the list of upgrades though. Haha.



    And from the show suite Chopin that is apparently $750k.

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    ^brutal.

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    Judging from the lights and balcony usage most of the tower is unoccupied. Either the Chinese investments have come in force, or people are backing out and forfeiting their deposits.

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