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    anything new on this one?

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    The most recent posts that the project is opening sales in short order and starting construction in late summer or early fall are only 10 days old. What exactly are you looking for?

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    Has anyone ever told you that you are kind of rude?

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    The information you requested was available on the page before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico View Post
    Has anyone ever told you that you are kind of rude?
    His response was in no way was rude. He was just simply highlighting the fact that the information that you requested was already available in this thread. If you keep asking if there is any new information in multiple threads, then you'll be bound to start getting rude replies.

    Typically if people in the know are allowed to divulge information on a project, then you'll see it on these boards in short order. Meaning that what you see on here is typically up to date information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico View Post
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    Yes.

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    The maximum floor plate sizes shall not exceed:

    Floor 1 (parkade plus residential units) 1765 m2

    Floor 2 650 m2

    Floor 3(mezzanine) 464 m2

    Floor 4 to 17 743 m2

    Floor 18 to 25 650 m2

    Floor 26 534 m2

    Floor 27 372 m2

    The maximum Height shall not exceed 27 storeys nor 78.0 m measured from the highest point of the parapet to average grade as defined in Section 4.1.c. of this provision, with exceptions as noted in section 52 of the Zoning Bylaw.


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    Yes please.
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    Raintree is now 'Symphony Living'... launching soon.

    http://www.symphonyliving.ca/index.html



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    I Like it!
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    Also, the 'Legislation grounds' will changed...
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    My sister and her ex rented the top floor (inc. attic sewing room) of that little white house from 1997-2006-ish. They affectionately called it "the crack shack" because there were many issues with it (just put a Spyder Yeardley-Jones gig poster over that hole in the drywall... and that one.... oh and that one too), it was large, and it was dirt cheap. It'll be sad to see a place I have fond memories of go, but I really like the design of the tower, especially that the podium addresses the slope of the river bank.
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    Aren't they using the old renders for the website?

    Also, I suspect that sales in this building may actually surprise some people. It's location would be great for the following buyers: out-of-town MLAs who need a suite when the Leg is in session, income property owners who want to rent to Leg/gov't workers or students (students because of it's proximity to the LRT and the High Level), and Leg/gov't workers.
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    It's an ugly building, but I like the podium/townhomes, and the keeping of the mansion.

    That partial curtain wall does nothing to save this design from the massive stucco protrusions and bare faces.
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    I actually like this building and think that they minimized the amount of acrylic stucco. The ornamental top actually reminds me a little of art deco a little for some reason.

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    so is it an official go ?
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    Sales in the next few weeks so as long as they roll, yup.
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    Any bets on the ratio of real occupying buyers vs a realtor + speculator run ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    Also, I suspect that sales in this building may actually surprise some people. It's location would be great for the following buyers: out-of-town MLAs who need a suite when the Leg is in session, income property owners who want to rent to Leg/gov't workers or students (students because of it's proximity to the LRT and the High Level), and Leg/gov't workers.
    You forgot to add: party hacks, lobbyists, political groupies and junkies, and media types and the odd call girl. That tower should sell out in no time.
    Oh and I almost forgot..the Parkview Bar and Grill.
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    Website / marketing needs serious work.

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    Tower isn't terrible, nor is it great.

    What bugs me is that it is yet another brinsmead kennedy creation. Nearly every tower going up now is designed by this one firm. A little bit is ok, but can we not have some diversity??

    The BK style is pretty predictable - curvy swoops, white wall with punch windows featuring prominently, and generally pretty conservative in style.

    What is it that prevents someone from going to one of the other 106 architectural firms in town?

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    ^i'd imagine it's cost. And the desire of the client to have something cheap to build but not too atrocious. They've definitely grabbed hold of their market

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    Updated construction project map. Any changes in design, height, etc.? Looks like old renders...

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    Really wish it was an all glass tower. As a owner at the Marquis, I am trying to figure out what it will look like from my balcony.

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    tower is terrible. marketing is terrible. Symphony? really?

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    I like the tower, this will fill the space nicely.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    As i'm sure you know, there are many educated people who make up these names trying to appeal to a certain type of buyer. If young guys were the ones with all the money it would be called The Paintball Gun.

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    tower is terrible. marketing is terrible. Symphony? really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by codyjg View Post
    tower is terrible. marketing is terrible. Symphony? really?
    The only thing terrible is your capitalization lol, please elaborate on how this tower terrible.
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    As i'm sure you know, there are many educated people who make up these names trying to appeal to a certain type of buyer.
    Yes, sure.. that's definitely it

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    It is a fine tower with great street level interaction. The name is hokey, but most are.
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    I don't mind the tower, though I will say it appears to be a bit on the chunky side. I'm not crazy about the name, though I see where they're trying to go with it.
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    lol and the "PEARL" or "Ultima" or "Marquise" or "hyde park" are any better.

    Naming buildings is kinda like naming vessels... a bit hokey.

    God, my condo is called Carnaby Lane... lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Mine is ominous, the Omega.
    Good thing they didn't build a twin tower to it called the Alpha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Mine is ominous, the Omega.
    OOO very Illuminati
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Mine is ominous, the Omega.
    OOO very Illuminati
    Book of Revelations as well.
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    Heh, that or throwing a dart at a dartboard. Someone has to keep those market research firms in business!


    Quote Originally Posted by 240GLT View Post
    As i'm sure you know, there are many educated people who make up these names trying to appeal to a certain type of buyer.
    Yes, sure.. that's definitely it

    LOL.

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    Symphony Living sounds like they are going after the empty-nester, symphony and opera and cruise ship crowd. Older folks. No kids. The web site is terrible though, the 'Legislation Grounds' I believe they are universally known as the Legislature Grounds. And the fonts...terrible. El Cheapo website from overseas. I should get a great improvement on my street with this though, eating up valuable crack shack and dirt parking lot real estate.

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    ^That's exactly who they likely will be going after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD View Post
    ^That's exactly who they likely will be going after.
    Not unless they are goats or have access to cars to get up the hill or DATS service.

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    ^Umm, there is a difference between a downsizing boomer and senior citizen as it relates to overall health, mobility, etc. This isn't going to be a seniors retirement home.

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    As the project was approved, I take it we will most likely see the stucco in the final build at this point, or is it too early to tell?

    Also, I'll have to overlook the drawings again - but is there no wheelchair accessible ramp in that podium/terrace design? I get that this is a hill area, but you'd think they'd need something from 97th ave incorporated. Is anyone able to provide some insight?

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    We all thought Pearl was going to have stucco until they started putting glazing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keats82 View Post
    As the project was approved, I take it we will most likely see the stucco in the final build at this point, or is it too early to tell?

    Also, I'll have to overlook the drawings again - but is there no wheelchair accessible ramp in that podium/terrace design? I get that this is a hill area, but you'd think they'd need something from 97th ave incorporated. Is anyone able to provide some insight?
    (it's called a sidewalk)
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keats82 View Post
    As the project was approved, I take it we will most likely see the stucco in the final build at this point, or is it too early to tell?

    Also, I'll have to overlook the drawings again - but is there no wheelchair accessible ramp in that podium/terrace design? I get that this is a hill area, but you'd think they'd need something from 97th ave incorporated. Is anyone able to provide some insight?
    (it's called a sidewalk)
    Thanks for being cheeky. Riiiight.

    But I am specifically discussing the podium access - there are tons of stairs, and I see no wheelchair access to the main entrance. That is a problem for both residents and visitors alike.

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    That's cause you take the sidewalk until you are at grade with the entrance to the tower.

    I may have been cheeky but I was also serious ;-P



    Please note the top right corner of the project where the main people drop off point is.
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    Considering the slope of that hill, that would be a very arduous task for a mobility-reduced person. The entire site is as such, but I find it hard to believe in this day and age that there are no wheelchair accessible ramps within the podium/terrace area.

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    The name Symphony creates an image in my mind and the words I would use to describe that image would be: glamorous, moody, romantic, luxurious...

    None of those words describe this tower. The words this tower brings to mind: chunky, value, clinical, bland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keats82 View Post
    Considering the slope of that hill, that would be a very arduous task for a mobility-reduced person.
    Not everyplace is perfect for everyone. The site will meet the accessibility laws that dictate. Are you now saying we should change the topography of the river valley.

    I am sorry I just don't see your point....
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    I'm surprised that the height have been reduced
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    It went from a proposed 29 to 27. Not a big decrease.
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    Jag... don't be a size queen. It's at the bottom of a hill lol.
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    Their website still seems to be low-budget, but I have found their Facebook page, with some photos. They created it May 15.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Symph...50392354977667


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    I just like how it will potentially clean up the look at the corner there.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Oh and I forgot to mention RE the high res teaser of the top of the building:

    OH MY GOD THE AMOUNT OF STUCCO IS BLINDING ME!!!
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    Why oh why would you not have that living room looking out to the leg DOME!!!?!!?! I will make a call to my friends at the marketing firm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Why oh why would you not have that living room looking out to the leg DOME!!!?!!?! I will make a call to my friends at the marketing firm.
    'Cause it's wrapped around in hoarding?

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    Ask and you shall receive - Symphony



















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    Looks good, hopefully this gets built asap.

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    I have to say, the plaza and view from the south looks quite good.
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    Um, wow.

    Love the wave design that they've created with the south-facing curtain walls. Very unique for a downtown Edmonton condo building.
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    Concave, convex, looks decent. Not sold on the spine.
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    I don't get why they have almost all glass, and then those stucco strips? It's like they want a nice building, but are forced to include some necessary "WTF" factor.
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    So is this likely a 2013 start or are there still a few planning hurdles (and pre-sales targets) to go?
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    ^marketing starts tomorrow... sales dependent like normal. I'd bet early 2014.
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    I might regret this, but it kinda reminds me of a cousin of Arthur Erickson's condo in false creek... a bit less refined and a bit less nautical, but similar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Ask and you shall receive - Symphony

    This makes me happy.
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    ^ i would buy in it.
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    really like the location of this place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Ask and you shall receive - Symphony


    I look at this shot and can't wait till the new bridge is built as well as fox, ultima and kelly ramsey and maybe encore and 102st and the arena lands. What a total change to this picture it would make!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
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    Maybe its just the angle, but 106st is way steeper than that image portrays.
    And they haven't drawn in the alley in that rendering.

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    Ask and you shall receive - Symphony

    Maybe its just the angle, but 106st is way steeper than that image portrays.
    And they haven't drawn in the alley in that rendering.
    Corner looks awesome; possibly a water feature where the artwork is/maybe combined??

    Hopefully the City maintains the side walk/roadway as per the rendering.

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    I wonder if there will be an entrance/access to the legislature grounds, since that wall is in the way now.

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    Big ad in the Journal today for this
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    ^Yup... launch day apparently. Expect the sales centre to be open soon.
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    While I want 50 floors but I do realize budget is a huge part of design. But I like it, the curves and the podium keeps a similar feel of Parkview and the the existing brick house on the corner.

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    It's a nice location, especially with the view and access to the leg. grounds. However, I always felt like this area lacked amenities. The area badly needs a little corner store/grocery store and a couple of restaurants or pubs. Although the actual walking distance to Jasper ave. isn't that far, the hill climbing out of the river valley always feels like a barrier to just walking out your door to grab some milk or a few groceries.

    Are there any plans for ground level commercial space in this development?

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    There's a corner store on the next block over.

    As for other amenities, the Rossdale redevelopment should eventually help with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    There's a corner store on the next block over.

    As for other amenities, the Rossdale redevelopment should eventually help with that.
    Bingo. It has most everything you need for a corner store.

    I dont foresee a grocer in west rossdale, but perhaps a larger corner store type thing.
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    ^Forget that. If Rossdale doesn't become our Granville I'm gonna declare Edmonton a failure.
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    ^You want to aspire to Granville? Puh lease. Elements maybe, but it far from a tacky tourist place with some unique/interesting things.

    I'd love a grocer down there, but likely it would be a smaller all round store and it does/will need one, but I cannot see a Sobeys down there.
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    What should be down there is a market like granville's market.
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    ^That's what I was getting at, along with the cool restaurants. Not the tacky bohemian artist colony part.
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    ^ Again one of my fav things about granville. We would be so lucky to have something like the emily carr institute situated in our river valley

    http://www.ecuad.ca/

    What is not needed is the ticky tacky gift shops.
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    Can't wait for this one! One sad downside of this is losing those old buildings. I always assumed it had historical designation or something.
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    ^huh??? They are retaining both the house and the apartment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Can't wait for this one! One sad downside of this is losing those old buildings. I always assumed it had historical designation or something.
    Are you talking about the ones on the north or south side of the site? South buildings are staying while the north ones are going.
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    So when does this get built??? I really like what I see and would love to see this lot filled.
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    ^sales dependent but likely early next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    ^huh??? They are retaining both the house and the apartment.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Can't wait for this one! One sad downside of this is losing those old buildings. I always assumed it had historical designation or something.
    Are you talking about the ones on the north or south side of the site? South buildings are staying while the north ones are going.
    Sorry...yes...you guys are correct. It wasn't quite clear at first from the renderings that the old Parkview and the house were being kept.
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    ...and not a single north elevation image was shown...

    The back will be highly visible from the legislature grounds, I do hope some thought was put in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective View Post
    ...and not a single north elevation image was shown...

    The back will be highly visible from the legislature grounds, I do hope some thought was put in it.
    Probably an evolved version of this:

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    Pricing for 2bed/2bath starts at $441k, almost at $500/sqft! Crazy!

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    ^views, finishes, sounds about right.
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