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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    100% of the bike lanes cleared this AM before the morning commute, nicely done!
    Very nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    100% of the bike lanes cleared this AM before the morning commute, nicely done!
    No objection to clearing bike lanes, but you should know meanwhile hundreds of people were stuck in situations like this:


    (Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...erta-1.4505247)

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    They're not related. Different equipment, different crews, different budget.
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    It looks like there's an accident on the up hill, then traffic is flowing much better.
    It's not all that likely that an extra pass with a snow plow would have helped. People who drive to fast for really bad conditions would most likely be driving to fast for slightly better conditions too, and causing the same kind of problems.

    What would really help is if a few more people would carpool in these kind of conditions. 10% fewer cars on the road on these days would make a world of difference in locations that don't have an accident blocking lanes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    They're not related. Different equipment, different crews, different budget.
    Except that it's all the CoE in the end, so this is really an attempt to deflect cricitism with semantics.
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    ^I was out from Downtown to Kingsway at around 11:30 this morning. Only road that had been plowed at all was Kingsway. Safe to say it's gonna take a while for snow crews to get at any roads, let along the one shown above.
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    Crazy how a little snow creates a conversation about evil bike lanes.
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    I heard that the city had over 120 pieces of road clearing equipment deployed this morning. If you think that the handful of machines clearing bike lanes were the difference maker for traffic backups you are mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    Crazy how a little snow creates a conversation about evil bike lanes.
    I don't think bike lanes are evil, but the CoE Administration's overemphasis & fixation on them has had some definite impacts on snow removal & trumpeting their accomplishment at clearing them while the roads get worse-than-usual-and-that's-saying-something levels of service is tone deaf & not helping sell their message to the vast majority of Edmontonians who'll never, ever, ever be able to (much less willing to) commute via bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    It looks like there's an accident on the up hill, then traffic is flowing much better.
    It's not all that likely that an extra pass with a snow plow would have helped. People who drive to fast for really bad conditions would most likely be driving to fast for slightly better conditions too, and causing the same kind of problems.

    What would really help is if a few more people would carpool in these kind of conditions. 10% fewer cars on the road on these days would make a world of difference in locations that don't have an accident blocking lanes.
    No accident, just people stuck unable to get up the hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man From YEG View Post
    A colossal waste of money. Roads abysmal for vehicles and this kind of nonsense takes place.
    The vehicles I've seen clearing the bike lanes aren't the same kind that are used for clearing the roads. It's a bit like whining that traffic police are pulling over speeders instead of solving murders; they're two different things.

    Also, in my walk along the 83 Ave bike lane this morning there were a surprising number of cyclists that passed me (roughly 9-10 over 4 blocks). People are definitely out there riding, even in snowy weather.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Snow tires.
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    I think practically speaking we should designate bike paths multi-use trails if the sidewalk is inaccessible;
    people did that in Ottawa when the sidewalks were impassable. The trail along 105 avenue between 116 st and 109 st is already a multi-use trail, since there was never a sidewalk there, and I see people using it more the cyclists in the winter. We don't want to excuse homeowners and businesses the responsibility of clearing their sidewalks, but practically we know it doesn't always get done. There might be more acceptance of the bike trails if they were considered an always clear pedestrian winter highway. I doubt the city will ticket a pedestrian in the trail anyways, and a few pedestrians won't impeded cyclists in the winter. The trick would be getting pedestrians off of the trails in the summer, but I imagine most would rather be on the sidewalk in the eventuality, anyways.

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    https://twitter.com/tylergolly/statu...53860118290434
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    Heavy use of the #yegbikegrid today. It is so great to see the impact this inexpensive and rapidly implemented transformation has made on #Edmonton for residents and visitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    https://twitter.com/tylergolly/statu...53860118290434
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    Heavy use of the #yegbikegrid today. It is so great to see the impact this inexpensive and rapidly implemented transformation has made on #Edmonton for residents and visitors.

    That photo was not taken today (was posted Jan 25--presumably taken on or before that date).

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffWhyte View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    100% of the bike lanes cleared this AM before the morning commute, nicely done!
    No objection to clearing bike lanes, but you should know meanwhile hundreds of people were stuck in situations like this:


    (Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...erta-1.4505247)
    Concur in full. Roads were abysmal this AM and not acceptable on major routes.
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    Duplicate post.
    Last edited by East McCauley; 26-01-2018 at 03:13 PM.

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    ^^Alternatively, this photo could be labelled 'City of Edmonton staff stage photo-op.'

    Don't get me wrong. I support the Downtown bike grid network. For the most part, the grid was well executed and located on streets and avenues where there is no undue interference with other traffic.

    But I also have two good eyes. I walk along 106 Street and 102 Avenue during the morning and afternoon rush hour as well as during the lunch hour pretty much every week day. Most days this winter I don't see any cyclists along these stretches. Other days, maybe a cyclist or two. But four in tandem staged to look as if this is a typical occurrence during Edmonton winters. Give me a break.

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    There's far more traffic on 102 ave than on 106st. This is almost certainly the afternoon rush yesterday, when a few bikes at a light isn't uncommon.

    I've been one of 3-4 at a light a few times this winter and I'm rarely travelling at the peak of rush hour.
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    Will definitely have more counts as this becomes more of a common piece of infrastructure. When the real numbers come in when people adjust, but if I recall this pilot's timeframe is short and ends at the end of this summer?
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    2yr pilot. Looking forward to year 1 numbers in June/July.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OffWhyte View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    https://twitter.com/tylergolly/statu...53860118290434
    Tyler Golly‏ @tylergolly

    Heavy use of the #yegbikegrid today. It is so great to see the impact this inexpensive and rapidly implemented transformation has made on #Edmonton for residents and visitors.
    That photo was not taken today (was posted Jan 25--presumably taken on or before that date).
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    Hopefully they will have lots of mental health professionals in attendance offering free psychiatric assessments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Isn't the High Level Bridge in the NW quadrant? What does the SW refer to?

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    Likely on the west side of the south end of the bridge?
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    Outstanding !

    That'll be an excellent kick-off to Top_Dawg's stellar weekend.

    On February 11 there's the Free Expression Party.

    http://www.metronews.ca/news/edmonto...nce-party.html




    Top_Dawg's gonna be spent come Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    I heard that the city had over 120 pieces of road clearing equipment deployed this morning. If you think that the handful of machines clearing bike lanes were the difference maker for traffic backups you are mistaken.
    Exactly. We have $50m budget for snowclearing. Clearing some bike lanes first has nothing to do with anything.
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    Give two wheels a whirl on International Winter Bike to Work Day
    February 7, 2018

    Take your bike out for a spin this Friday and participate in Winter Bike to Work Day. The City of Edmonton’s bike street team will be out greeting cyclists on the High Level Bridge with hot chocolate, giveaways and fun activities to celebrate your winter cycling commute.

    Date: Friday, February 9
    Time: 7 - 9 a.m.
    Location: Southwest corner of the High Level Bridge

    Winter Bike to Work Day is a worldwide, friendly challenge where cities can compete by tracking trips taken that day online. Whether you’re new to winter cycling, or an experienced all-season rider, stop by and join in the fun and learn about cycling safely and comfortably year round. Don’t forget to wear warm layers, put on a helmet and cycle smart as you head out for your commute.


    For more information:
    edmonton.ca/wintercycling

    Media contact:
    Kristi Bland
    Communications Advisor
    780-495-9904
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